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2012-10-30 08:08:55 AM
5 votes:
Yep, he'll fall right back in love with a federal agency that he wants to eliminate, and with a funding mechanism that he called "immoral". That's Quantum Romney for you.
2012-10-30 11:02:47 AM
4 votes:

RussianPooper: bwilson27: RussianPooper: Chinchillazilla: Everyone whose home is in Sandy's path should just go to their second home and wait it out.

If big government was out of the way, everyone could afford a second home.

If big government was out of the way, you would be sending this in a letter rather than the internet.

How could I send it in a letter if the postal service didn't exist? I guess I could Fedex it, but that's crazy talk.

BTW, we had forums before widespread use of the internet, we just had to dial directly into them.


No, you uneducated, technologically ignroran, knuckle-walking mouth breather. We didn't. We had forums and BBS's that you could dial into prior to the widespread growth of the World Wide Web, but the Web is not the internet.

Goddamnit, there are times when I absolutely hate just how simple it's become for the masses to get online, or use a computer for that matter. We've gotten to the point where everything's plug and play, and color-coded for your convenience. And thus, we are stuck with these idiots among us.

Half you conservative morons have no idea that the Internet was a DIRECT RESULT of nothing but Big Government spending in the 1960's, but you'll happily use the medium to biatch about the Feds anyway. The internet? Yeah, you didn't build that.

Fark, if we could at least make you fools compile your own kernel or something, it would set the barrier to entry somewhere above "troglodyte", and that alone would cut down on a ton of noise.

Does it hurt to be that clueless? Because it should.
2012-10-30 10:00:21 AM
4 votes:

MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.


The Republican belief that privatizing an emergency response agency will make it better, is even more hilarious.
2012-10-30 09:59:47 AM
4 votes:

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


Video of Romney saying he wants to eliminate FEMA
2012-10-30 08:19:43 AM
4 votes:

182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.


He's white.
2012-10-30 10:44:49 AM
3 votes:
This is why its good to be a federal republic, and not a quasi-confederacy as many on the right seem to want.

This storm directly effected at least 15 states. Imagine instead of a coordinated effort, states had no top down way to organize relief and were competing with each other for resources.

Now imagine that this developed into a category 3 or higher hurricane, and an interstate evacuation effort was required throughout the northeast corridor 2 days before landfall... but with each state directing its own management of the evacuation. This is what republicans want.

When republicans call for abolishing organizations like FEMA, they are being children.
2012-10-30 10:24:15 AM
3 votes:

RussianPooper: Chinchillazilla: Everyone whose home is in Sandy's path should just go to their second home and wait it out.

If big government was out of the way, everyone could afford a second home.


If big government was out of the way, you would be sending this in a letter rather than the internet.
2012-10-30 10:00:39 AM
3 votes:
2012-10-30 08:33:24 AM
3 votes:

182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.


Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

"Obama's birthplace, his paternity, his religion, his academic attainments, his citizenship and his loyalty to the country have all been called into question by [Republicans] who feel no moral qualms about spreading fabrications and untruths."

Link
2012-10-30 07:06:10 PM
2 votes:
Romney is holding campaign rallies here today, except he's not calling them rallies. Instead, he's calling them disaster relief meet-up or some such ridiculousness. He's collecting canned goods here in Ohio...that I guess he is going to ship to New Jersey and New York. The Red Cross doesn't want canned goods. There's no place for the Romney private jet to drop the canned good, seeing as there doesn't seem to be a demand for them. By the time his bus would be able to get them to New York or New Jersey, transportation will have opened up enough that other donations will reach the food pantries faster.

Romney just wanted to continue campaigning in Ohio. He didn't want to go where the damage is, He didn't want to donate any of his own resources. I hope the bastard has at least enough grace to give the canned goods to local food pantries.
2012-10-30 12:20:39 PM
2 votes:
"[Romney's] infamous changes of stance are not little wispy ideological alterations of a few degrees here or there - they are perfect and absolute mathematical reversals, as in "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country" and "I am firmly pro-life." Yet unlike other politicians, who at least recognize that saying completely contradictory things presents a political problem, Romney seems genuinely puzzled by the public's insistence that he be consistent. "I'm not going to apologize for having changed my mind," he likes to say. It's an attitude that recalls the standard defense offered by Wall Street in the wake of some of its most recent and notorious crimes: Goldman Sachs excused its lying to clients, for example, by insisting that its customers are "sophisticated investors" who should expect to be lied to." - Matt Taibbi 

That's exactly the way I think Romney sees voters. Mitt sees the election as a game of saying anything it takes to win, and the voters are people who should expect to be lied to in exchange for their support. What policy is going to make them happy today? And if Mitt wins, he's changed his positions so many times that whatever he does, he can say it was part of his plan that he mentioned during the campaign. The sad part is that for half the country, this is working.
2012-10-30 11:56:05 AM
2 votes:

MilesTeg: On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.


Actually odds are they wouldn't let them walk. There's god knows what on the street and the last thing the rescue needs is someone getting something stuck in their foot or a cut on their leg. The rescue people have shoes that can deal with it. Also even just getting water logged below the knees can cause people to get the chills when it's already a little chilly outside, and that's another thing the rescue people don't want to deal with.
2012-10-30 11:31:18 AM
2 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: 182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.

Yep, but W was at least consistent, sure he was bad for the economy, and a war mongering asshat who thought the constitutions was "Just a piece of paper.", but at least he was consistent. Who the fark knows what quantum Romney is going to do once in office.


Well, based on his RECORD in Massachusetts: he'll spend 2/3 of the time outside the country badmouthing the US as a hopeless liberal wasteland trying to get support for his run for "Emperor of the World" in 2016. When IN the country, he'll spend time writing executive orders to hopeless mire people (particularly non-heterosexual people) in legal red tape to get anything done, outsource as much of the federal workforce to China and India, and veto everything that Congress sends him.

He'll also take a lot of time working with the local LDS to pump up the visibility of the church, promote church members to positions, etc., and work to get more Mormons elected. It will be INTERESTING to see how that plays at the Federal level.
2012-10-30 10:50:11 AM
2 votes:

doubled99: and suddenly everyone now defends FEMA. Where was the satisfaction with this agency a few years ago?


What when the tornado wiped out Joplin or hurricane Ike? Both of disasters FEMA did a competent job with. FEMA when it is headed up by competent people is a good agency, when it is headed up by incompetent political appointees is a cluster fark.
2012-10-30 10:50:04 AM
2 votes:

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.


The cries of "socialism," the unprecedented obstructionism, the dedication to stall America's recovery if it makes the President looks bad. That is all inspired by one thing, you know. You think Clinton--or even Carter--would be forced to be twice as good with half as much?

What do liberals want to do to make things better? Well we can start by letting the elected President do his job, unencumbered by the type of Congress that would write its own bill and the filibuster it just so they can moan to desperate uneducated people that the President is "too divisive" and "making things worse."

Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist.


Enough are to make a difference this year.

I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

You seem like a reasonable person, so with all due respect: get your head out of the sand. All the false equivalence in the world won't change the fact that the right is currently riding a wave of low-information support from people who believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim who has been too lazy throwing hip-hop BBQ's to be the President. It's been a narrative cultivated for four years and wouldn't have a hope in hell of working if Obama were white. And it's resulted in an election that any honest person would tell you is closer than it should be.

But a liberal in San Francisco used the word "fag" once so it's a wash.
2012-10-30 10:36:05 AM
2 votes:

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.


I doubt anyone would be accusing a white president of being a Muslim born in Kenya.
2012-10-30 10:27:50 AM
2 votes:

bwilson27: RussianPooper: Chinchillazilla: Everyone whose home is in Sandy's path should just go to their second home and wait it out.

If big government was out of the way, everyone could afford a second home.

If big government was out of the way, you would be sending this in a letter rather than the internet.


If big government was out of the way, you'd have to hand-deliver that letter.
2012-10-30 10:23:20 AM
2 votes:

skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.


Christie strikes me as the type of guy who is a rational politician and sees the opposing party as people with whom he doesn't necessarily agree but whose opinions he respects. The only reason he didn't run for president is that he didn't want to get into the derpfest of appealing to the republican 'base' to eventually lose to Obama while disconnecting himself from his own constituents. He basically just set himself up to run (and win) in 2016. I'm ok with this.
2012-10-30 10:06:05 AM
2 votes:

hdhale: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Yep, he'll fall right back in love with a federal agency that he wants to eliminate, and with a funding mechanism that he called "immoral". That's Quantum Romney for you.

We are actually going there today of all days? Really?

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Why not? I know it's against the GOP's rule that says people aren't supposed to discuss anything Romney says or does, but this week will show people A.What FEMA actually does, and B.That Little Lord Mittleroy, as usual, has no idea what the fark he's talking about.

We don't need another guy that will put his dressage instructor in charge of disaster management.
2012-10-30 10:01:52 AM
2 votes:

bdub77: Good for him. We shouldn't politicize natural disasters...at ALL. (Except perhaps to recognize that climate change is indeed a threat to our planet - I think this storm is an anomaly more than caused by climate change.)


In an election year in which AGW has hardly been discussed, when a major and highly aberrant hurricane which was certainly precipitated and exacerbated by AGW in the first place, when one candidate has gone out of his way to mock and deny AGW while vowing to cut FEMA, I say it's fair farking game.
2012-10-30 09:53:16 AM
2 votes:

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


Romney saying he wants to privatize FEMA.

I know, outright lying hasn't stopped him on any other issue, now that he's the champion of auto bailouts, a huge supporter of many of the parts of Obamacare, and all the rest.
2012-10-30 09:50:19 AM
2 votes:

Citrate1007: Once again Romney's rhetoric is proven to be incompatible with reality and he must flip-flop. You don't get do-overs as President, Mr. Romney.


I've always said, if you don't like Romney's stance on any given issue, just wait 15 minutes...

However, I wish I had his problems:
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2012-10-30 09:43:59 AM
2 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: Will Romney have the guts to go to the affected areas and tell the people being served by FEMA that he thinks the aid is immoral and if he was President he would ensure that the afflicted states be left wholly on their own?


Brevity.

no
2012-10-30 09:43:06 AM
2 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Yep, he'll fall right back in love with a federal agency that he wants to eliminate, and with a funding mechanism that he called "immoral". That's Quantum Romney for you.


Quantum Romney is about the most funny and accurate description I've yet heard.

You can't say if his chances are dead or alive until you look in the ballot box. Until then, he can exist simultaneously in two states, namely Ohio and Pennsylvania.
2012-10-30 08:37:49 AM
2 votes:

skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.


He doesn't want to have to wait until 2020 to run for president.
2012-10-30 08:30:24 AM
2 votes:
Seriously, who is surprised? Romney keeps running the total bull shiat Jeep ads, the truth isn't a factor in his campaign. It's just a hurdle.
2012-10-30 12:24:14 PM
1 votes:

Kit Fister: I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.


Its an odd phenomenon isn't it? I think the problem is that words like "racism" have become such a hot button that people will twist themselves into logic pretzels to claim it doesn't apply to them.

I have met racists of every color - its not that uncommon a a trait. And I think often racism is not (if youll pardon the expression) black and white. There are degrees of racism and folks who truly love their neighbor with a different skin color may feel very differently about scary "inner city youths" or "southern rednecks."

But the fact remains that the GOP has been hijacked by FOX and the Tea Party and until you get rid of them that's how we are going to see you. You may or may not be a racist but you are complicit in that you stand with them and dont do a thing to get them to shut the hell up.

Instead of whining to us about how its not fair that we lump you in with all the other mouth-breathers in your party perhaps you should take some persona responsibility and get your own house in order.
2012-10-30 11:25:21 AM
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.


Meters calibrating....
2012-10-30 11:20:19 AM
1 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.


Yes, I'm sure the Republicans in Congress will have the "Every Man for Himself Act of 2013" on his desk promptly.
2012-10-30 11:18:05 AM
1 votes:

Hang On Voltaire: He is saying that federal money would go through FEMA to the states to handle more disaster relief instead of FEMA controlling the vast majority of disaster relief money.


If that's the case, he also appears to be saying that the federal govt should be giving disaster relief money to the private sector, too. How exactly would that work, I wonder.
2012-10-30 11:02:57 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.

Good for him. A humanitarian first.


It's nothing of the sort. He's still speaking. It's a campaign rally.
2012-10-30 10:59:41 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.

Good for him. A humanitarian first.


It certainly is a first to rebrand a campaign rally a storm relief event without making any changes or trying to help anyone. Humanitarian, I'm not so sure of, but it sure is a first.
2012-10-30 10:45:58 AM
1 votes:

182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.


Yep, but W was at least consistent, sure he was bad for the economy, and a war mongering asshat who thought the constitutions was "Just a piece of paper.", but at least he was consistent. Who the fark knows what quantum Romney is going to do once in office.
2012-10-30 10:44:21 AM
1 votes:
Republicans:

Your candidate went from this: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/opinion/a-big-storm-requires-big-gov ernment.html?_r=0

To this: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-abolish-fema-campaign-says-n o-202301419--election.html

By this afternoon, he will be well prepared to let FEMA shiat on his face for a handful of votes.

Why do you allow him to do this? How stable do you think it makes him on the "core issues"?
2012-10-30 10:37:29 AM
1 votes:

Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist...


When the right wing stops playing the "one bad apple spoils the whole batch" shtick with any demographic that isn't the straight, white, Christian male, or at the very least heeds its own advice for everyone but straight, white, Christian males and cleans up its own house, the rest of us might stop giving them doses of their own medicine.
2012-10-30 10:37:26 AM
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

Hey look, it's a Romney campaign worker.


So he said it's immoral that it exists but he won't do anything about it?

Who can trust such a man.
2012-10-30 10:37:21 AM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.


That was a really stupid comment. FEMA and the National Guard are both parts of the federal government. You could just as easily complain that the National Guard can't utilize FEMA, and it would be just as silly. WTF?
2012-10-30 10:35:55 AM
1 votes:

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.


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I know, right? I mean, the guy wore this T-shirt to a Romney rally, but that was months ago, people. Months. Baseball season was still going on, man. It's ancient history. Racism is so over.

But we get it. Both sides bad, vote Republican, or for the Republican who lost in the primary and calls himself a libertarian now.
2012-10-30 10:30:37 AM
1 votes:
"If it's a legitimate hurricane, cities have a way of shutting that whole thing down." -Todd Akin
2012-10-30 10:27:10 AM
1 votes:

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


Hey look, it's a Romney campaign worker.
2012-10-30 10:14:14 AM
1 votes:

Mouser: Delay: 182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

And this is why the Democratic Party is intellectually bankrupt.


Because we're forced to live in the same world as the mouthbreathers?
2012-10-30 10:06:20 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: It's never too soon to politicize a natural disaster.


Thank Romney for that! Sucks to you to be standing in quicksand.
2012-10-30 10:03:29 AM
1 votes:
It's never too soon to politicize a natural disaster.
2012-10-30 09:58:58 AM
1 votes:
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2012-10-30 09:58:50 AM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: Citrate1007: Once again Romney's rhetoric is proven to be incompatible with reality and he must flip-flop. You don't get do-overs as President, Mr. Romney.

Obama is asking for one.


To be fair, he has been serving with the biggest collection of do-nothing-but-straight-party-line-argumentative derps in Congress I've ever seen...

e.g.

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2012-10-30 09:55:58 AM
1 votes:

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


Shaddup.
2012-10-30 09:54:04 AM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.


Who else would you rather prepare for and repair a disaster? Your local church? How about your mom?
2012-10-30 09:47:31 AM
1 votes:

skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.


It could be that he thinks Obama's doing a good job, it could be he doesn't like Romney, it could be he's an (R) governor in a (D) state or it could be he would rather not have an incumbent Romney in 2016.
2012-10-30 09:46:54 AM
1 votes:

Valiente: Dogberry: skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.

Today Show, too. It was bizarre.

Perhaps Taft II can see which way the wind is blowing?


Between his political ambitions and his weight problem, Chris Christie may realize that 2016 is his best shot at winning the presidency. After all, he may not survive until 2020.
2012-10-30 09:43:02 AM
1 votes:

Dogberry: skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.

Today Show, too. It was bizarre.


I saw it as well. I was expecting an entirely different sort of response to that question; Instead, it was actually classy. Mind BLOWN.
2012-10-30 09:42:39 AM
1 votes:

doubled99: and suddenly everyone now defends FEMA. Where was the satisfaction with this agency a few years ago?


FEMA has pretty much always gotten high marks with people, except for 2005, when the Horse Whisperer was put in charge.
2012-10-30 08:54:35 AM
1 votes:
2012-10-30 08:19:16 AM
1 votes:
Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.
182
2012-10-30 08:11:38 AM
1 votes:
how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.
 
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