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2012-10-30 11:37:45 AM

Citrate1007: 182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.

They typical GOP voters...

#1 Greed trumps people's morals
#2 Bigots feel they can legislate their morals/hate onto others
#3 Racists love that he is white
#4 Willfully ignorant hate all incumbants


#5 Read fark politics threads, get disgusted by the attitude
 
2012-10-30 11:37:45 AM

keepitcherry: What are there like two conservatives on this entire site? Lol


they can't stand to see views that are not their own so a site where political views are not censored is too much reality for them.
 
2012-10-30 11:39:20 AM
On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.

l.yimg.com
 
2012-10-30 11:40:02 AM

keepitcherry: You guys even have to have a political circle jerk with each other in the wake of natural disasters?


Lots of people who do this every day are stuck at home with not much else to do and you're surprised that they're doing what they do every day?
 
2012-10-30 11:43:29 AM

bwilson27: Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

You know LOTS of people, don't you, asshole?


And he's an asshole because he expects something substantive?
 
2012-10-30 11:45:10 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-30 11:45:20 AM

WhyteRaven74: Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.

So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice..


I pay the fire department to put out the fire with my taxes. I have insurance to rebuild. Feds aren't involved.

What is the draw to keep a state in the union that doesn't need all this generous federal assistance but has to pay the bill for cleaning the tushies of the perpetual special needs states? You'd want to sever ties, cast them off or remove yourself from the union.

How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire? Probably none at all. If it happened today, the nation would bankrupt itself to rebuild the city.
 
2012-10-30 11:46:22 AM

Kit Fister: bwilson27: Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

You know LOTS of people, don't you, asshole?

And he's an asshole because he expects something substantive?


No, YOU'RE an asshole for being just as obtuse as him.
 
2012-10-30 11:51:14 AM
it's always a good day to be white people
l.yimg.com

bluenred.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-30 11:52:40 AM

Noam Chimpsky: WhyteRaven74: Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.

So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice..

I pay the fire department to put out the fire with my taxes. I have insurance to rebuild. Feds aren't involved.

What is the draw to keep a state in the union that doesn't need all this generous federal assistance but has to pay the bill for cleaning the tushies of the perpetual special needs states? You'd want to sever ties, cast them off or remove yourself from the union.

How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire? Probably none at all. If it happened today, the nation would bankrupt itself to rebuild the city.


Maybe the backward-ass welfare states that want to self-fund should just secede.

www.lazlow.com

Oh. Right.
 
2012-10-30 11:53:25 AM

GAT_00: Cletus C.: GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.

Good for him. A humanitarian first.

It's nothing of the sort. He's still speaking. It's a campaign rally.


Rallying support for the flood victims!

Why do libs hate flood victims?
 
2012-10-30 11:55:56 AM

bdub77: Noam Chimpsky: WhyteRaven74: Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.

So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice..

I pay the fire department to put out the fire with my taxes. I have insurance to rebuild. Feds aren't involved.

What is the draw to keep a state in the union that doesn't need all this generous federal assistance but has to pay the bill for cleaning the tushies of the perpetual special needs states? You'd want to sever ties, cast them off or remove yourself from the union.

How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire? Probably none at all. If it happened today, the nation would bankrupt itself to rebuild the city.

Maybe the backward-ass welfare states that want to self-fund should just secede.

[www.lazlow.com image 800x588]

Oh. Right.


I'd like to like your point, but that's 8-year-old data...
 
2012-10-30 11:56:05 AM

MilesTeg: On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.


Actually odds are they wouldn't let them walk. There's god knows what on the street and the last thing the rescue needs is someone getting something stuck in their foot or a cut on their leg. The rescue people have shoes that can deal with it. Also even just getting water logged below the knees can cause people to get the chills when it's already a little chilly outside, and that's another thing the rescue people don't want to deal with.
 
2012-10-30 12:01:51 PM

Hang On Voltaire: bartink: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

CNN's John King asked Mitt Romney whether, in the aftermath of the recent Joplin, Mo. disaster and a budget crunch at FEMA, the agency should be shut down, leaving disaster relief to the states.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

Nope. Read the debate transcript:

KING: What else, Governor Romney? You've been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I've been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it's the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.

Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says


So, I should be expecting my insurance company to rescue me?
 
2012-10-30 12:02:37 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-30 12:03:02 PM

bwilson27: Kit Fister: bwilson27: Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

You know LOTS of people, don't you, asshole?

And he's an asshole because he expects something substantive?

No, YOU'RE an asshole for being just as obtuse as him.


I never claimed not to be an asshole. How are we being obtuse? Because we're sick and tired of the name calling and temper-tantrum back and forth and would like a little more intelligence in the conversation?

I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.
 
2012-10-30 12:04:19 PM

EZ Writer: bdub77: Noam Chimpsky: WhyteRaven74: Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.

So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice..

I pay the fire department to put out the fire with my taxes. I have insurance to rebuild. Feds aren't involved.

What is the draw to keep a state in the union that doesn't need all this generous federal assistance but has to pay the bill for cleaning the tushies of the perpetual special needs states? You'd want to sever ties, cast them off or remove yourself from the union.

How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire? Probably none at all. If it happened today, the nation would bankrupt itself to rebuild the city.

Maybe the backward-ass welfare states that want to self-fund should just secede.

[www.lazlow.com image 800x588]

Oh. Right.

I'd like to like your point, but that's 8-year-old data...


Here's some updated figures:

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farm6.static.flickr.com

farm3.static.flickr.com

farm3.static.flickr.com

farm8.staticflickr.com 

Maybe the US should just abandon the failing South.
 
2012-10-30 12:08:28 PM

keepitcherry: You guys even have to have a political circle jerk with each other in the wake of natural disasters? I think Romney is Satan himself but don't you guys get tired of patting each other on the back? What are there like two conservatives on this entire site? Lol


Yeah, 2 or 3, but they use a lot of alts. Constantly provoking the EFL.

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-30 12:10:22 PM

bdub77: Here's some updated figures:


Well done, and without any name calling... Are you sure you're on the right website?

/A lot of the folks here aren't concerned with "facts" or "figures" when making their arguments.
 
2012-10-30 12:13:32 PM

Noam Chimpsky: How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire?


You posed a fairly interesting question this time. For those of you interested in a long answers look here

For those of you looking for a short answer FEMA and Building Codes both owe their existence to these types of disasters. Private citizens who had an economic incentive to see a region get back on it's feet donated much of the needed funds. Unfortunately this sort of private sector solution no longer works in the era of multinational corporations.

Because those who have control over the resources no longer have skin in the game they simply stash their money in overseas accounts and leave the little people to drown.
 
2012-10-30 12:20:39 PM
"[Romney's] infamous changes of stance are not little wispy ideological alterations of a few degrees here or there - they are perfect and absolute mathematical reversals, as in "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country" and "I am firmly pro-life." Yet unlike other politicians, who at least recognize that saying completely contradictory things presents a political problem, Romney seems genuinely puzzled by the public's insistence that he be consistent. "I'm not going to apologize for having changed my mind," he likes to say. It's an attitude that recalls the standard defense offered by Wall Street in the wake of some of its most recent and notorious crimes: Goldman Sachs excused its lying to clients, for example, by insisting that its customers are "sophisticated investors" who should expect to be lied to." - Matt Taibbi 

That's exactly the way I think Romney sees voters. Mitt sees the election as a game of saying anything it takes to win, and the voters are people who should expect to be lied to in exchange for their support. What policy is going to make them happy today? And if Mitt wins, he's changed his positions so many times that whatever he does, he can say it was part of his plan that he mentioned during the campaign. The sad part is that for half the country, this is working.
 
2012-10-30 12:24:14 PM

Kit Fister: I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.


Its an odd phenomenon isn't it? I think the problem is that words like "racism" have become such a hot button that people will twist themselves into logic pretzels to claim it doesn't apply to them.

I have met racists of every color - its not that uncommon a a trait. And I think often racism is not (if youll pardon the expression) black and white. There are degrees of racism and folks who truly love their neighbor with a different skin color may feel very differently about scary "inner city youths" or "southern rednecks."

But the fact remains that the GOP has been hijacked by FOX and the Tea Party and until you get rid of them that's how we are going to see you. You may or may not be a racist but you are complicit in that you stand with them and dont do a thing to get them to shut the hell up.

Instead of whining to us about how its not fair that we lump you in with all the other mouth-breathers in your party perhaps you should take some persona responsibility and get your own house in order.
 
2012-10-30 12:44:30 PM
So, did Subby call it or did Subby call it?
 
2012-10-30 12:58:18 PM

Cletus C.: Rwa2play: bwilson27: Cletus C.: It's never too soon to politicize a natural disaster.

I'm surprised Romney wasn't on Fox last night blaming it all on Obama.

Everytime Cletus comes up, I imagine his profile pic to be this:

[www.goldlabel.com image 150x150]

Hey Mitt, FARK YOU YOU IGNORANT PIECE OF TRASH~!

/new yorker
//still standing
///wants to kick Romney's ass
////even if it means going to jail for life

My image of you isn't quite so generous.


My image of you was never generous to begin with.
 
2012-10-30 01:04:43 PM

quickdraw: Kit Fister: I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Its an odd phenomenon isn't it? I think the problem is that words like "racism" have become such a hot button that people will twist themselves into logic pretzels to claim it doesn't apply to them.

I have met racists of every color - its not that uncommon a a trait. And I think often racism is not (if youll pardon the expression) black and white. There are degrees of racism and folks who truly love their neighbor with a different skin color may feel very differently about scary "inner city youths" or "southern rednecks."

But the fact remains that the GOP has been hijacked by FOX and the Tea Party and until you get rid of them that's how we are going to see you. You may or may not be a racist but you are complicit in that you stand with them and dont do a thing to get them to shut the hell up.

Instead of whining to us about how its not fair that we lump you in with all the other mouth-breathers in your party perhaps you should take some persona responsibility and get your own house in order.


You presume that people who are in the republican camp don't try. You also presume that they identify those assholes as part of their group.

For me, it's kind of like being Asatru. We go out of our way to show we're not racist and are not involved with the WP Neo Nazis that try to claim the Nordic religions as their own and use it as a justification for it. However, anyone OUTSIDE of the group still sees them as part of us, even when they aren't.
 
2012-10-30 01:06:10 PM

Gonz: Half you conservative morons have no idea that the Internet was a DIRECT RESULT of nothing but Big Government spending in the 1960's, but you'll happily use the medium to biatch about the Feds anyway. The internet? Yeah, you didn't build that.

If a private company had built and was administering the internet, you'd have to pay for all that porn. You think a company would give away a product that's in such demand? Hell no. Next time you're spanking it to the latest download, be sure to thank Uncle Sam.
 
2012-10-30 01:25:02 PM

WordyGrrl:

If a private company had built and was administering the internet, you'd have to pay for all that porn. You think a company would give away a product that's in such demand? Hell no. Next time you're spanking it to the latest download, be sure to thank Uncle Sam.


Nice Boobies.
 
2012-10-30 01:34:20 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


Wow, this past week old school Fark Cons are crawling out of the woodwork.

You guys must be proud of the new generation.
 
2012-10-30 01:40:41 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.


I'll just leave these two statements by Romney campaign co-chair:

First of President Obama:

SUNUNU: I wish this president would learn how to be an American.

Of Colin Powell:

SUNUNU: You have to wonder whether that's an endorsement based on issues or that he's got a slightly different reason for President Obama.

MORGAN: What reason would that be?

SUNUNU: Well, I think that when you have somebody of your own race that you're proud of being President of the United States - I applaud Colin for standing with him.

Fark John Sununu and his worn out welcome.
 
2012-10-30 01:44:41 PM

Kit Fister: quickdraw: Kit Fister: I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Its an odd phenomenon isn't it? I think the problem is that words like "racism" have become such a hot button that people will twist themselves into logic pretzels to claim it doesn't apply to them.

I have met racists of every color - its not that uncommon a a trait. And I think often racism is not (if youll pardon the expression) black and white. There are degrees of racism and folks who truly love their neighbor with a different skin color may feel very differently about scary "inner city youths" or "southern rednecks."

But the fact remains that the GOP has been hijacked by FOX and the Tea Party and until you get rid of them that's how we are going to see you. You may or may not be a racist but you are complicit in that you stand with them and dont do a thing to get them to shut the hell up.

Instead of whining to us about how its not fair that we lump you in with all the other mouth-breathers in your party perhaps you should take some persona responsibility and get your own house in order.

You presume that people who are in the republican camp don't try. You also presume that they identify those assholes as part of their group.

For me, it's kind of like being Asatru. We go out of our way to show we're not racist and are not involved with the WP Neo Nazis that try to claim the Nordic religions as their own and use it as a justification for it. However, anyone OUTSIDE of the group still sees them as part of us, even when they aren't.


Yes when you take on many of the cultural aspects of a large and vocal group then people are going to associate you with them. *shrug*

Just because I'm a vegetarian and wear tiedye once in a while doesn't mean I like The Grateful Dead.
 
2012-10-30 01:47:15 PM

Brick-House: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x311]


You are the best straw grasper in town! Troll on brother!
 
2012-10-30 01:51:38 PM

WhyteRaven74: MilesTeg: On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.

Actually odds are they wouldn't let them walk. There's god knows what on the street and the last thing the rescue needs is someone getting something stuck in their foot or a cut on their leg. The rescue people have shoes that can deal with it. Also even just getting water logged below the knees can cause people to get the chills when it's already a little chilly outside, and that's another thing the rescue people don't want to deal with.


I understand what you are saying and you are probably right about what people are directed to do, but if this is as big of a disaster as it is being portrayed (I have no reason to think it isn't) you make adjustments. This isn't like an inconvenient neighborhood flood. In a situation like this, I don't think it is too much to ask of able bodied young adults to walk through a foot of water to safety...or at least paddle yourself.
 
2012-10-30 02:14:49 PM

MilesTeg: WhyteRaven74: MilesTeg: On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.

Actually odds are they wouldn't let them walk. There's god knows what on the street and the last thing the rescue needs is someone getting something stuck in their foot or a cut on their leg. The rescue people have shoes that can deal with it. Also even just getting water logged below the knees can cause people to get the chills when it's already a little chilly outside, and that's another thing the rescue people don't want to deal with.

I understand what you are saying and you are probably right about what people are directed to do, but if this is as big of a disaster as it is being portrayed (I have no reason to think it isn't) you make adjustments. This isn't like an inconvenient neighborhood flood. In a situation like this, I don't think it is too much to ask of able bodied young adults to walk through a foot of water to safety...or at least paddle yourself.


We know nothing about this image or the people involved. We dont need to assume that everyone is behaving the way we imagine these people are behaving. Youre whole argument is based on a complete fantasy you made up in your head.
 
2012-10-30 02:17:07 PM

Delay: Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

I'll just leave these two statements by Romney campaign co-chair:

First of President Obama:

SUNUNU: I wish this president would learn how to be an American.

Of Colin Powell:

SUNUNU: You have to wonder whether that's an endorsement based on issues or that he's got a slightly different reason for President Obama.

MORGAN: What reason would that be?

SUNUNU: Well, I think that when you have somebody of your own race that you're proud of being President of the United States - I applaud Colin for standing with him.

Fark John Sununu and his worn out welcome.


So? Talking about race doesn't make you a racist.

One person doesn't make an entire party racist, either. Plus, Sununu is a farktard. I wouldn't use him as a representative example of anything.

That being said, I suppose after decades of the GOP's shiat, Colin Powell probably actually did decide to support the Republican's competitor if only to flip the bird to their leadership. As a matter of fact, I wish Colin Powell would have actually run for president. There's a smart man who knows a thing or two about the state of world affairs, much more than say a Junior Senator from Illinois who no one had heard of prior to 2007.
 
2012-10-30 02:48:44 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay: Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

I'll just leave these two statements by Romney campaign co-chair:

First of President Obama:

SUNUNU: I wish this president would learn how to be an American.

Of Colin Powell:

SUNUNU: You have to wonder whether that's an endorsement based on issues or that he's got a slightly different reason for President Obama.

MORGAN: What reason would that be?

SUNUNU: Well, I think that when you have somebody of your own race that you're proud of being President of the United States - I applaud Colin for standing with him.

Fark John Sununu and his worn out welcome.

So? Talking about race doesn't make you a racist.

One person doesn't make an entire party racist, either. Plus, Sununu is a farktard. I wouldn't use him as a representative example of anything.

That being said, I suppose after decades of the GOP's shiat, Colin Powell probably actually did decide to support the Republican's competitor if only to flip the bird to their leadership. As a matter of fact, I wish Colin Powell would have actually run for president. There's a smart man who knows a thing or two about the state of world affairs, much more than say a Junior Senator from Illinois who no one had heard of prior to 2007.


That's true, Colin Powell is an expert at lying to international leaders to trump up a war in the Mid-east. Plus he is utterly devoid of shame or honor. He'd be the perfect Republican Candidate.

www.whale.to
 
2012-10-30 02:49:28 PM

quickdraw: Kit Fister: quickdraw: Kit Fister: I can say that I know a LOT of people, mostly republicans, and of those, only a small percentage fit the general description that folks on Fark throw around. Nothing obtuse about that, just the facts that you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush.

Its an odd phenomenon isn't it? I think the problem is that words like "racism" have become such a hot button that people will twist themselves into logic pretzels to claim it doesn't apply to them.

I have met racists of every color - its not that uncommon a a trait. And I think often racism is not (if youll pardon the expression) black and white. There are degrees of racism and folks who truly love their neighbor with a different skin color may feel very differently about scary "inner city youths" or "southern rednecks."

But the fact remains that the GOP has been hijacked by FOX and the Tea Party and until you get rid of them that's how we are going to see you. You may or may not be a racist but you are complicit in that you stand with them and dont do a thing to get them to shut the hell up.

Instead of whining to us about how its not fair that we lump you in with all the other mouth-breathers in your party perhaps you should take some persona responsibility and get your own house in order.

You presume that people who are in the republican camp don't try. You also presume that they identify those assholes as part of their group.

For me, it's kind of like being Asatru. We go out of our way to show we're not racist and are not involved with the WP Neo Nazis that try to claim the Nordic religions as their own and use it as a justification for it. However, anyone OUTSIDE of the group still sees them as part of us, even when they aren't.

Yes when you take on many of the cultural aspects of a large and vocal group then people are going to associate you with them. *shrug*

Just because I'm a vegetarian and wear tiedye once in a while doesn't mean I like The Grateful Dead.


Well, to be fair, I'd say the nonracist Norse Heathens were around before the Nazis ever got ahold of our heritage...
 
2012-10-30 02:51:14 PM

someonelse: If that's the case, he also appears to be saying that the federal govt should be giving disaster relief money to the private sector, too. How exactly would that work, I wonder.


Poorly.
 
2012-10-30 02:53:14 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: That's true, Colin Powell is an expert at lying to international leaders to trump up a war in the Mid-east. Plus he is utterly devoid of shame or honor.


...

Racist.
 
2012-10-30 02:54:05 PM

NateGrey: Wow, this past week old school Fark Cons are crawling out of the woodwork.


They studied it out, buddy.
 
2012-10-30 03:01:10 PM

firefly212: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

Romney saying he wants to privatize FEMA.

I know, outright lying hasn't stopped him on any other issue, now that he's the champion of auto bailouts, a huge supporter of many of the parts of Obamacare, and all the rest.


It's amazing how much he suddenly hated his own health care plan when Obama liked it so much he made it national. Romney said he'd tear it down the minute he gets into office, then he said that he'd tear it down and put it back up again but this one would be better because HE put it up, now he's saying it's awesome and he won't do much to it.

/if a Democrat discovered the miracle cure for all diseases, Republicans would do their best to discredit and destroy it purely from spite, just like they did their best to keep the economy and unemployment from recovering in order to make Obama look bad
 
2012-10-30 03:06:48 PM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.

But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist. I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.


The entire birther movement started because Obama is black and doesn't have the standard American name of Bob, Bill, Joe, etc. No other president in the history of America has had to show what the right keeps demanding of Obama to prove his nationality, not even the white president who was born in Central America. It's also well-known what the right's position is on anyone who isn't an old white Christian male.
 
2012-10-30 04:06:40 PM

bartink: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

CNN's John King asked Mitt Romney whether, in the aftermath of the recent Joplin, Mo. disaster and a budget crunch at FEMA, the agency should be shut down, leaving disaster relief to the states.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"


So Disaster Relief should be left up individual states and fark them if they can't afford it.

So why even call yourself "The United States" any longer? According to Romney you should just dissolve the union and become 50 walled-up individual little countries.
 
2012-10-30 04:12:06 PM
Via Twitter. 😝"@realDonaldTrump: Because of the hurricane, I am extending my 5 million dollar offer for President Obama's favorite charity until 12PM on Thursday."
 
2012-10-30 04:23:03 PM

Altitude5280: Via Twitter. 😝"@realDonaldTrump: Because of the hurricane, I am extending my 5 million dollar offer for President Obama's favorite charity until 12PM on Thursday."


What a douchenozzle. I wonder if Colbert will extend his offer too.
 
2012-10-30 06:44:01 PM

Kit Fister: Well, to be fair, I'd say the nonracist Norse Heathens were around before the Nazis ever got ahold of our heritage...


Well if the Nordic Pagans had continued to be mainstream then thats how people would know them. But they didnt and lets face it all pagan traditions have a pretty spotty lineage at this point. Any consistency between how you worship and how the ancient Nordic's worshiped is sheer conjecture.

I say this as someone who led all sorts of pagan groups and taught Wicca in the 80s/90s. Like it or not Hitler hijacked Nordic mythos for his own purposes and even you don't know how much of your tradition was influenced by Hitler's scholars - not to mention the general mangling the Victorians inflicted earlier on all things pagan.
 
2012-10-30 07:06:10 PM
Romney is holding campaign rallies here today, except he's not calling them rallies. Instead, he's calling them disaster relief meet-up or some such ridiculousness. He's collecting canned goods here in Ohio...that I guess he is going to ship to New Jersey and New York. The Red Cross doesn't want canned goods. There's no place for the Romney private jet to drop the canned good, seeing as there doesn't seem to be a demand for them. By the time his bus would be able to get them to New York or New Jersey, transportation will have opened up enough that other donations will reach the food pantries faster.

Romney just wanted to continue campaigning in Ohio. He didn't want to go where the damage is, He didn't want to donate any of his own resources. I hope the bastard has at least enough grace to give the canned goods to local food pantries.
 
2012-10-30 07:28:16 PM

quickdraw: Kit Fister: Well, to be fair, I'd say the nonracist Norse Heathens were around before the Nazis ever got ahold of our heritage...

Well if the Nordic Pagans had continued to be mainstream then thats how people would know them. But they didnt and lets face it all pagan traditions have a pretty spotty lineage at this point. Any consistency between how you worship and how the ancient Nordic's worshiped is sheer conjecture.

I say this as someone who led all sorts of pagan groups and taught Wicca in the 80s/90s. Like it or not Hitler hijacked Nordic mythos for his own purposes and even you don't know how much of your tradition was influenced by Hitler's scholars - not to mention the general mangling the Victorians inflicted earlier on all things pagan.


Oh, I agree. We do our best to follow the old traditions and the archaeological data available, but a lot of it is "in spirit, if not in tradition."

But, yeah, fark the goddamn nazis and racists.
 
2012-10-30 07:55:12 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: violetvolume: "severe love"

Is that a 'big love' joke subby made?


More likely a "severely conservative" joke.
 
2012-10-30 09:51:29 PM

quickdraw: MilesTeg: WhyteRaven74: MilesTeg: On a related note...Hey hipsters, get out and walk in 1.5 feet of water so the professionals can actually help those in need.

Actually odds are they wouldn't let them walk. There's god knows what on the street and the last thing the rescue needs is someone getting something stuck in their foot or a cut on their leg. The rescue people have shoes that can deal with it. Also even just getting water logged below the knees can cause people to get the chills when it's already a little chilly outside, and that's another thing the rescue people don't want to deal with.

I understand what you are saying and you are probably right about what people are directed to do, but if this is as big of a disaster as it is being portrayed (I have no reason to think it isn't) you make adjustments. This isn't like an inconvenient neighborhood flood. In a situation like this, I don't think it is too much to ask of able bodied young adults to walk through a foot of water to safety...or at least paddle yourself.

We know nothing about this image or the people involved. We dont need to assume that everyone is behaving the way we imagine these people are behaving. Youre whole argument is based on a complete fantasy you made up in your head.


His advice also doesn't make any sense. Paddle a raft that's being towed? You're just going to club someone in the knee accidentally. Slog along themselves? Smart money says you'll have at least 2 more cases of hypothermia and 1 or two infected wounds you didn't have/didn't need in your triage center. That water is 50 F or less and full of everything that's normally stuck to the filthy, filthy streets.
 
2012-10-30 09:58:01 PM

EZ Writer: bdub77: Noam Chimpsky: WhyteRaven74: Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.

So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice..

I pay the fire department to put out the fire with my taxes. I have insurance to rebuild. Feds aren't involved.

What is the draw to keep a state in the union that doesn't need all this generous federal assistance but has to pay the bill for cleaning the tushies of the perpetual special needs states? You'd want to sever ties, cast them off or remove yourself from the union.

How much was the federal government involved in the Chicago fire? Probably none at all. If it happened today, the nation would bankrupt itself to rebuild the city.

Maybe the backward-ass welfare states that want to self-fund should just secede.

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Oh. Right.

I'd like to like your point, but that's 8-year-old data...


That's because the Tax Foundation (A 'non-partisan' but actually right-wing think tank) stopped collecting that data that year, because it didn't fit their narrative.
 
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