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2012-10-30 10:44:21 AM
Republicans:

Your candidate went from this: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/opinion/a-big-storm-requires-big-gov ernment.html?_r=0

To this: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-abolish-fema-campaign-says-n o-202301419--election.html

By this afternoon, he will be well prepared to let FEMA shiat on his face for a handful of votes.

Why do you allow him to do this? How stable do you think it makes him on the "core issues"?
 
2012-10-30 10:44:31 AM

Zapruder: MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.

Chris Christie and New Jersey are doing swimmingly.


Snert.
 
2012-10-30 10:44:49 AM
This is why its good to be a federal republic, and not a quasi-confederacy as many on the right seem to want.

This storm directly effected at least 15 states. Imagine instead of a coordinated effort, states had no top down way to organize relief and were competing with each other for resources.

Now imagine that this developed into a category 3 or higher hurricane, and an interstate evacuation effort was required throughout the northeast corridor 2 days before landfall... but with each state directing its own management of the evacuation. This is what republicans want.

When republicans call for abolishing organizations like FEMA, they are being children.
 
2012-10-30 10:45:50 AM

someonelse: MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.

That was a really stupid comment. FEMA and the National Guard are both parts of the federal government. You could just as easily complain that the National Guard can't utilize FEMA, and it would be just as silly. WTF?


I think that may have been the joke?
 
2012-10-30 10:45:58 AM

Bf+: EZ Writer: MyRandomName: Citrate1007: Once again Romney's rhetoric is proven to be incompatible with reality and he must flip-flop. You don't get do-overs as President, Mr. Romney.

Obama is asking for one.

To be fair, he has been serving with the biggest collection of do-nothing-but-straight-party-line-argumentative derps in Congress I've ever seen...

e.g.

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Conservative humor, everyone!



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2012-10-30 10:45:58 AM

182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.


Yep, but W was at least consistent, sure he was bad for the economy, and a war mongering asshat who thought the constitutions was "Just a piece of paper.", but at least he was consistent. Who the fark knows what quantum Romney is going to do once in office.
 
2012-10-30 10:47:33 AM

EZ Writer:


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You're not very bright, are you?
 
2012-10-30 10:48:16 AM
Romney to announce his severe love for FEMA and federal disaster aid by noon today

Governor Christie beat him to it. Effusive praise for Obama and FEMA.
 
2012-10-30 10:48:38 AM

MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.


Your honor, I rest my case.
 
2012-10-30 10:49:59 AM
By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.
 
2012-10-30 10:50:04 AM

Hunter_S_Thompson: Delay:Honey, can't you see? He's not a ni66er.

Is that really all the left has left to offer now? As someone who doesn't support any lying slimbag candidate, regardless of party affiliation, I honestly think that the left should be able to conjure up a better argument than that. Talk about issues. Address the cries of "soshulizzm". Lay out concise plans as to how your side wants to make things better.


The cries of "socialism," the unprecedented obstructionism, the dedication to stall America's recovery if it makes the President looks bad. That is all inspired by one thing, you know. You think Clinton--or even Carter--would be forced to be twice as good with half as much?

What do liberals want to do to make things better? Well we can start by letting the elected President do his job, unencumbered by the type of Congress that would write its own bill and the filibuster it just so they can moan to desperate uneducated people that the President is "too divisive" and "making things worse."

Hunter_S_Thompson: But please, enough already. Every right-winger is not some frothing racist.


Enough are to make a difference this year.

I know people that are bigots, and they cross the political spectrum. I know liberals who don't like gays. I know conservatives who support gay marriage. I know democrats who don't care for blacks and republican black guys. Reality is not what FOX or MSNBC tells you. This one size fits all "rassssisssssmmm!" rallying cry has really worn out its welcome.

You seem like a reasonable person, so with all due respect: get your head out of the sand. All the false equivalence in the world won't change the fact that the right is currently riding a wave of low-information support from people who believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim who has been too lazy throwing hip-hop BBQ's to be the President. It's been a narrative cultivated for four years and wouldn't have a hope in hell of working if Obama were white. And it's resulted in an election that any honest person would tell you is closer than it should be.

But a liberal in San Francisco used the word "fag" once so it's a wash.
 
2012-10-30 10:50:11 AM

doubled99: and suddenly everyone now defends FEMA. Where was the satisfaction with this agency a few years ago?


What when the tornado wiped out Joplin or hurricane Ike? Both of disasters FEMA did a competent job with. FEMA when it is headed up by competent people is a good agency, when it is headed up by incompetent political appointees is a cluster fark.
 
2012-10-30 10:50:16 AM

Billy Bathsalt: someonelse: MyRandomName: The liberal belief that only the federal government can prepare for disaster is hilarious. They can't even utilize the national guard.

That was a really stupid comment. FEMA and the National Guard are both parts of the federal government. You could just as easily complain that the National Guard can't utilize FEMA, and it would be just as silly. WTF?

I think that may have been the joke?


Oh crap. I need to recalibrate my meters.
 
2012-10-30 10:50:39 AM

bwilson27: EZ Writer:


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You're not very bright, are you?


Oh, DO enlighten me...
 
2012-10-30 10:51:23 AM

GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.


Good for him. A humanitarian first.
 
2012-10-30 10:52:55 AM

bartink: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

CNN's John King asked Mitt Romney whether, in the aftermath of the recent Joplin, Mo. disaster and a budget crunch at FEMA, the agency should be shut down, leaving disaster relief to the states.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"


Nope. Read the debate transcript:

KING: What else, Governor Romney? You've been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I've been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it's the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.


Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says
 
2012-10-30 10:53:13 AM

GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.


In southwest Ohio, nonetheless. Which is like holding an air quality/pollution/environmental awareness event on the farking Moon.
 
2012-10-30 10:53:58 AM

EZ Writer: bwilson27: EZ Writer:


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You're not very bright, are you?

Oh, DO enlighten me...


That's a pointless pursuit. Humorless farks will always be humorless farks.
 
2012-10-30 10:56:29 AM

bwilson27: EZ Writer: bwilson27: EZ Writer:


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You're not very bright, are you?

Oh, DO enlighten me...

That's a pointless pursuit. Humorless farks will always be humorless farks.



Meaning you have no point... at least not a valid one.

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2012-10-30 10:57:14 AM

Hang On Voltaire: Nope. Read the debate transcript: [. . .] Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says


Yeah, study it out next time and don't just parrot what the liebrul lame LSM media says. Romney wasn't responding to a question about federal disaster relief budget shortfalls should lead to cutting FEMA's level of responsibility by suggesting we eliminate FEMA, and shift the burden of disaster relief onto the states and private sector. Romney was responding to a question about federal disaster relief budget shortfalls should lead to cutting FEMA's level of responsibility by suggesting we eliminate FEMA, and shift the burden of disaster relief onto the states and private sector.

Study it out.
 
2012-10-30 10:59:41 AM

Cletus C.: GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.

Good for him. A humanitarian first.


It certainly is a first to rebrand a campaign rally a storm relief event without making any changes or trying to help anyone. Humanitarian, I'm not so sure of, but it sure is a first.
 
2012-10-30 10:59:50 AM

EZ Writer:


Meaning you have no point... at least not a valid one.



You prove my point for me with your hysterically original posts.
 
2012-10-30 11:02:19 AM

bwilson27: EZ Writer:


Meaning you have no point... at least not a valid one.



You prove my point for me with your hysterically original posts.



And you prove that you do nothing but argue for argument's sake. How awesome for you. Why don't you go be a dick on 4chan?
 
2012-10-30 11:02:47 AM

RussianPooper: bwilson27: RussianPooper: Chinchillazilla: Everyone whose home is in Sandy's path should just go to their second home and wait it out.

If big government was out of the way, everyone could afford a second home.

If big government was out of the way, you would be sending this in a letter rather than the internet.

How could I send it in a letter if the postal service didn't exist? I guess I could Fedex it, but that's crazy talk.

BTW, we had forums before widespread use of the internet, we just had to dial directly into them.


No, you uneducated, technologically ignroran, knuckle-walking mouth breather. We didn't. We had forums and BBS's that you could dial into prior to the widespread growth of the World Wide Web, but the Web is not the internet.

Goddamnit, there are times when I absolutely hate just how simple it's become for the masses to get online, or use a computer for that matter. We've gotten to the point where everything's plug and play, and color-coded for your convenience. And thus, we are stuck with these idiots among us.

Half you conservative morons have no idea that the Internet was a DIRECT RESULT of nothing but Big Government spending in the 1960's, but you'll happily use the medium to biatch about the Feds anyway. The internet? Yeah, you didn't build that.

Fark, if we could at least make you fools compile your own kernel or something, it would set the barrier to entry somewhere above "troglodyte", and that alone would cut down on a ton of noise.

Does it hurt to be that clueless? Because it should.
 
2012-10-30 11:02:57 AM

Cletus C.: GAT_00: By the way, Romney has canceled all of his event. He is, however, holding a "Storm Relief Event" in the same place at the same time as a scheduled campaign rally.

Good for him. A humanitarian first.


It's nothing of the sort. He's still speaking. It's a campaign rally.
 
2012-10-30 11:05:38 AM

riverwalk barfly: Dogberry: skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.

Today Show, too. It was bizarre.

Really bizarre - he was on Fox and Friends praising Obama.


Okay, what?

Well... this.. is, um... interesting.
 
2012-10-30 11:05:56 AM

that bosnian sniper: Hang On Voltaire: Nope. Read the debate transcript: [. . .] Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says

Yeah, study it out next time and don't just parrot what the liebrul lame LSM media says. Romney wasn't responding to a question about federal disaster relief budget shortfalls should lead to cutting FEMA's level of responsibility by suggesting we eliminate FEMA, and shift the burden of disaster relief onto the states and private sector. Romney was responding to a question about federal disaster relief budget shortfalls should lead to cutting FEMA's level of responsibility by suggesting we eliminate FEMA, and shift the burden of disaster relief onto the states and private sector.

Study it out.


He is saying that federal money would go through FEMA to the states to handle more disaster relief instead of FEMA controlling the vast majority of disaster relief money.


/This is why I quit the Fark politics tab.
 
2012-10-30 11:06:45 AM

Valiente: Dogberry: skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.

Today Show, too. It was bizarre.

Perhaps Taft II can see which way the wind is blowing?


Ha, layered humor.
 
2012-10-30 11:06:54 AM

Hang On Voltaire:


/This is why I quit the Fark politics tab.


Because you lose every time?
 
2012-10-30 11:09:27 AM

Cupajo: "If it's a legitimate hurricane, cities have a way of shutting that whole thing down." -Todd Akin


This comment needs to be seen by more people.
 
2012-10-30 11:12:26 AM

epocalypse: Cupajo: "If it's a legitimate hurricane, cities have a way of shutting that whole thing down." -Todd Akin

This comment needs to be seen by more people.


Yeah it does... I missed it amidst bwilson27's trolling. I can't believe I bit...
 
2012-10-30 11:14:36 AM

Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA


It's good to see you back, and getting so many responses with so few words. Most people have to work the crowd a little, but not HOV. You just drop the derp and the crowd goes nuts.
 
2012-10-30 11:15:28 AM

Hang On Voltaire: bartink: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

CNN's John King asked Mitt Romney whether, in the aftermath of the recent Joplin, Mo. disaster and a budget crunch at FEMA, the agency should be shut down, leaving disaster relief to the states.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

Nope. Read the debate transcript:

KING: What else, Governor Romney? You've been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I've been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it's the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.

Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says


Wow another moron to add to the Skinnyhead filter list.
 
2012-10-30 11:17:19 AM
The people of NYC will have this cleaned up long before FEMA has anything to do with it.
 
2012-10-30 11:18:05 AM
I wonder if Romney will have the stones to go into New Jersey and tell all the folks getting FEMA assistance that it's immoral? What a complete clown. I hope you republicans are proud.

And before you GOP whiners (none of which will admit to voting for Bush II twice) ask for a citation, here you go: Romney declares FEMA Immoral

/ex-republican, fark these guys though
 
2012-10-30 11:18:05 AM

Hang On Voltaire: He is saying that federal money would go through FEMA to the states to handle more disaster relief instead of FEMA controlling the vast majority of disaster relief money.


If that's the case, he also appears to be saying that the federal govt should be giving disaster relief money to the private sector, too. How exactly would that work, I wonder.
 
2012-10-30 11:18:07 AM

EZ Writer:

Yeah it does... I missed it amidst bwilson27's trolling. I can't believe I bit...


Poor you. Maybe you should have left after your idiotic Pelosi troll.
 
2012-10-30 11:18:19 AM
How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.
 
2012-10-30 11:19:59 AM

EZ Writer: epocalypse: Cupajo: "If it's a legitimate hurricane, cities have a way of shutting that whole thing down." -Todd Akin

This comment needs to be seen by more people.

Yeah it does... I missed it amidst bwilson27's trolling. I can't believe I bit...


Gah...I made that comment yesterday morning damnit. OP WANTS HIZ CRETIDZZ!!!
 
2012-10-30 11:20:19 AM

Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.


Yes, I'm sure the Republicans in Congress will have the "Every Man for Himself Act of 2013" on his desk promptly.
 
2012-10-30 11:20:46 AM

stoli n coke: ranak: FTFA "'I think the losses will be almost incalculable,' New Jersey Governor Chris Christie says"

Fark you Christie. You waited until the last possible second to declare an emergency, all for political points.

Fark you and fark you hard Meatloaf

Oddly enough, Meat Loaf would be a perfect choice to play Chris Christie whenever the Game Change folks get around to doing a movie about this election.


Maybe the Meat Loaf of 1985, but he's lost a lot of weight since then.
 
2012-10-30 11:21:44 AM

Hang On Voltaire: bartink: Hang On Voltaire: Romney never said he wanted to eliminate FEMA

CNN's John King asked Mitt Romney whether, in the aftermath of the recent Joplin, Mo. disaster and a budget crunch at FEMA, the agency should be shut down, leaving disaster relief to the states.

"Absolutely," Romney said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking, in the federal budget, what we should cut, we should ask the opposite question, what should we keep?"

Nope. Read the debate transcript:

KING: What else, Governor Romney? You've been a chief executive of a state. I was just in Joplin, Missouri. I've been in Mississippi and Louisiana and Tennessee and other communities dealing with whether it's the tornadoes, the flooding, and worse. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?
ROMNEY: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better.

Next time read the words yourself and not what a left wing blog says


That doesn't really change the issue though. Still sounds like Romney wants to do away with FEMA and leave it to the states to do disaster relief. The reason we have stuff like fema is because states couldn't do disaster relief by themselves.
 
2012-10-30 11:21:56 AM

Spare Me: The people of NYC will have this cleaned up long before FEMA has anything to do with it.


Too late...
 
2012-10-30 11:22:17 AM

Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.


So when your house catches on fire, you'll put out the fire yourself? Nice.

Spare Me: The people of NYC will have this cleaned up long before FEMA has anything to do with it.


considering how much of the logistics of clean up will fall to FEMA.....no.
 
2012-10-30 11:25:21 AM

Noam Chimpsky: How is it my problem if New York gets rain? They can buy insurance if they live in areas where weather might hit. This bullshiat gotta end day one of the Romney Administrative Presidential Era.


Meters calibrating....
 
2012-10-30 11:27:58 AM

182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.


I dunno, we buried john huntsman in favor of him.

/voting third party
 
2012-10-30 11:28:04 AM

natazha: stoli n coke: ranak: FTFA "'I think the losses will be almost incalculable,' New Jersey Governor Chris Christie says"

Fark you Christie. You waited until the last possible second to declare an emergency, all for political points.

Fark you and fark you hard Meatloaf

Oddly enough, Meat Loaf would be a perfect choice to play Chris Christie whenever the Game Change folks get around to doing a movie about this election.

Maybe the Meat Loaf of 1985, but he's lost a lot of weight since then.


I believe that person just volunteered to fark meatloaf. Yes. Thats what she said? You sure?

hmmmm. Ok.

I see.

Just a moment.



/wretch

//oh god, it hurts. make my mind stop

///where did I keep my...bullets...load gun...bourbon. Cant...live in a world where...

////click

//bang

//thud

//fin
 
2012-10-30 11:31:18 AM

Slaves2Darkness: 182: how can people vote for that pos? and i say that as a republican.

/duh, we voted for W., twice.

Yep, but W was at least consistent, sure he was bad for the economy, and a war mongering asshat who thought the constitutions was "Just a piece of paper.", but at least he was consistent. Who the fark knows what quantum Romney is going to do once in office.


Well, based on his RECORD in Massachusetts: he'll spend 2/3 of the time outside the country badmouthing the US as a hopeless liberal wasteland trying to get support for his run for "Emperor of the World" in 2016. When IN the country, he'll spend time writing executive orders to hopeless mire people (particularly non-heterosexual people) in legal red tape to get anything done, outsource as much of the federal workforce to China and India, and veto everything that Congress sends him.

He'll also take a lot of time working with the local LDS to pump up the visibility of the church, promote church members to positions, etc., and work to get more Mormons elected. It will be INTERESTING to see how that plays at the Federal level.
 
2012-10-30 11:32:50 AM
You guys even have to have a political circle jerk with each other in the wake of natural disasters? I think Romney is Satan himself but don't you guys get tired of patting each other on the back? What are there like two conservatives on this entire site? Lol
 
2012-10-30 11:35:00 AM

Cythraul: mesmer242: Dogberry: skinnycatullus: Just saw Chris Christie on Morning Joe praising Obama... going out of his way to say more than he needed to, actually.

Today Show, too. It was bizarre.

I saw it as well. I was expecting an entirely different sort of response to that question; Instead, it was actually classy. Mind BLOWN.

Don't be fooled. All things considered, Christie is still an asshole.


Yeah, christie scares me more than romney. I'd rather have rand paul than christie.
 
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