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2012-10-30 02:10:30 PM
So.......Romney will get stuff done because the GOP will throw a farking hissy fit if the Black Guy gets re-elected.

Sure, let's reward infantile behavior.
 
2012-10-30 02:23:48 PM

lantawa: And the correct answer is "Option B: Vote for Mitt Romney"


Because no one knows what kind of President he'll be, and that's an exciting choice.
 
2012-10-30 02:31:06 PM

thurstonxhowell: Stupid person says stupid thing. More at 11.


c.f. this post.
 
2012-10-30 02:45:33 PM
You don't have to guess what a Romney presidency will be like. It's already been prophesied:


"We are not auditioning for fearless leader," Grover Norquist told conservatives at the CPAC convention in February. "We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate."

"Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."
 
2012-10-30 02:46:09 PM
Lando Lincoln


lantawa: And the correct answer is "Option B: Vote for Mitt Romney"

Because no one knows what kind of President he'll be, and that's an exciting choice.



Can't you say that about anyone who is running for president for the first time? After four years we all know what kind of president Obama is so the choice is there. Four more of the same ol' - or four years of who knows what? Being a gambling man I am ready to spin the wheel.
 
2012-10-30 02:47:35 PM

karnal: PsiChick

By himself, Mittens might be tolerable, but with the current Republicans around? F**k no. I'd like to keep my vagina to myself, thank you very much.


Now that's just being selfish.


Wait, I thought the Democrats were all about "sharing the wealth"...

Vote Soshulism, and the wimmins will share their ladyparts!

/yes, I'm being silly
 
2012-10-30 02:48:54 PM

runwiz: What I find most troubling about Romney is his advisors. Romney will shift positions with the wind but his advisors, especially the neocons on foreign policy, won't. I think the risk of another war is greater with Romney in the White House unless he can be convinced that it would be bad for the economy.


Since he has Bush II's economic advisors...
 
2012-10-30 03:01:14 PM
WOW!! This thread is all about PRE-election butt hurt.

leagueofbikepolo.com
 
2012-10-30 03:07:21 PM
Just because he writes it does not mean it is true.
 
2012-10-30 03:11:02 PM
ThrowYourHatredDown

Just because he writes it does not mean it is true.




That is what I thought after reading The Audacity of Hope by Bill Ayers.
 
2012-10-30 03:31:46 PM
So our choice is between the GOP "flip- flop" poster boy for corporate greed, and the man who signed the NDAA, then instructed his Justice Department to take it to a higher court, when the provision for unconstitutionally detaining American citizens without due process was correctly ruled unconstitutional, yet claims he didn't want to sign it because of that provision?

As crazy as it may sound, electing a Third Party Candidate is exactly what it will take to shock the two major parties back into some semblance of reality. Their grip on the political system has gotten so comfortable that they both view us with obvious complete contempt.
 
2012-10-30 03:32:09 PM

snocone: PsiChick: treecologist: FTFA:

"Romney is more of a flexible flip-flopper than Obama. He has more influence over the most intransigent element in the Washington equation House Republicans. He's more likely to get big stuff done. "

So flip-flopping is a character trait you want in a leader now.

Better question: This guy is running under an R. Now, based on recent history, what the unholy hell makes you think the Republican party won't coerce Romney into doing whatever the fark they want?

By himself, Mittens might be tolerable, but with the current Republicans around? F**k no. I'd like to keep my vagina to myself, thank you very much.

Then you better clean out Congress.
Everybody is all up in the presidential thingie while the GOP is quietly trying to hang on to their" Fark No!" seats.
There lies the meat and potatoes of saving a middle class.


Hell yes, but at least the President can veto the crazy. The last thing we need is to take away a block.
 
2012-10-30 03:50:28 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: On foreign policy matters, for example, Bush has attracted the policy wonk version of the 1927 Yankees. You look at the people who will fill key slots in his administration, from Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice down through less-prominent advisors such as Bob Zoellick and Paul Wolfowitz. They are the best out there. Link


You know, it's not polite to knock out Brooks with one punch like that.

Hilarious...but not polite.
 
2012-10-30 03:55:54 PM
HAMMERTOE

So our choice is between the GOP "flip- flop" poster boy for corporate greed, and the man who signed the NDAA, then instructed his Justice Department to take it to a higher court, when the provision for unconstitutionally detaining American citizens without due process was correctly ruled unconstitutional, yet claims he didn't want to sign it because of that provision?

As crazy as it may sound, electing a Third Party Candidate is exactly what it will take to shock the two major parties back into some semblance of reality. Their grip on the political system has gotten so comfortable that they both view us with obvious complete contempt.


This is the best comment I read today....unfortunately, a 3rd party candidate has no chance of winning. Republicans and Democrats have created an environment where they dominate the playground.
 
2012-10-30 04:55:08 PM
All I know is it's time for a change .
 
2012-10-30 05:10:00 PM

RY28: All I know is it's time for a change .


So you'll vote out the GOP House majority?
 
2012-10-30 05:10:02 PM

RY28: All I know is it's time for a change .


Me too. We need to vote the Republican majority out of the House. Then we can finally get this country moving forward.
 
2012-10-30 05:27:43 PM

Lost Thought 00: I can't seriously think of a professional editorialist worth a damn, left right or center.


I tend to agree with most of the editorials of Leonard Pitts. http://www.miamiherald.com/leonard_pitts/.
 
2012-10-30 06:13:41 PM
Geeze, David Brooks usually sounds a LOT smarter than that.

I don't think the world will end if Mitt wins this election, but I know that there will be a lot less hope in my world, and a lot of happy millionaires at Vail this winter. Probably see a lot of new G600's at EGE.

I just don't think Mitt really cares for us regular people, who wear tennis shoes, or the occasional python boot.

I figure that President Obama has done OK given that he's had to contend with the Party of "Hell NO!"
 
2012-10-30 06:38:36 PM

WTF Indeed: Delay: I can't believe Brooks wrote that.

You can't believe the conservative opinion writers for the New York Times wrote what is basically the weakest "Vote for this guy because" argument in the history of the paper?


Fixed
 
2012-10-30 07:29:45 PM
Ugh, my gawd what an awful, pre-apologist, ignorant read. Romney better not win; the idea that he'd suddenly be "moderate" is incredibly assumptive.

Brooks needs to go check his meds. Romney/Ryan is a scary and horrific idea and would crush what's left of the USA.

So many idiots in the press forget that we're only 5% of the world, and the other 95% kinda matters as well. Electing Romney/Ryan would SO sully America.
 
2012-10-30 08:17:42 PM
The gist of the article seems to be: "Republicans will grind government to a halt if they don't get their way. Democrats won't do this. It is important to give into the Republicans by electing Mitt Romney."

This is a poor theory for both child-rearing and government.
 
2012-10-30 09:50:09 PM
"He would easily find 10 Republican senators willing to go along with..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 

Oh, wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder.
 
2012-10-30 11:13:20 PM
"By running such a negative presidential campaign, Obama has won no mandate for a Grand Bargain." Put it on up yer arse, brooks.
 
2012-10-31 01:54:32 AM

karnal: ThrowYourHatredDown

Just because he writes it does not mean it is true.



That is what I thought after reading The Audacity of Hope by Bill Ayers.


Okay, that actually made me lol.

/Hoping to Christ you're not serious
 
2012-10-31 08:33:51 AM
NateAsbestos

karnal: ThrowYourHatredDown

Just because he writes it does not mean it is true.



That is what I thought after reading The Audacity of Hope by Bill Ayers.

Okay, that actually made me lol.

/Hoping to Christ you're not serious



Don't bring Christ into this. :)
 
2012-10-31 11:08:13 AM
Can a single one of you libtards pull your heads out of your arses and please take a look at what is happening in Europe right now? The GOP is unwilling to compromise with the Dems because they want for this country what is happening in Europe. The dems are raping this country to buy votes and keep power.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith
from spiritual faith to great courage
from courage to liberty
from liberty to abundance
from abundance to selfishness
from selfishness to complacency
from complacency to apathy
from apathy to dependency
from dependency back to bondage.
-Alexander Tyler

This is why our forefathers had the foresight to not instill a democracy in the United States, but instead they created a republic. This is why individual and states rights are so important in our constitution. I cannot possibly fathom how ignorant people are of history or even current events. What world do democrats live in? Are you so easily brain washed into being a politically correct, constitution ignoring, talking point regurgitating moron, so that your "leaders" can buy votes and centralize their power?
 
2012-10-31 12:33:16 PM
That reads right to me.

Enjoy.

Hopefully, things get closer to where they need to be.
 
2012-10-31 01:44:13 PM

deven8703: Can a single one of you libtards pull your heads out of your arses and please take a look at what is happening in Europe right now? The GOP is unwilling to compromise with the Dems because they want for this country what is happening in Europe. The dems are raping this country to buy votes and keep power.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:
from bondage to spiritual faith
from spiritual faith to great courage
from courage to liberty
from liberty to abundance
from abundance to selfishness
from selfishness to complacency
from complacency to apathy
from apathy to dependency
from dependency back to bondage.
-Alexander Tyler

This is why our forefathers had the foresight to not instill a democracy in the United States, but instead they created a republic. This is why individual and states rights are so important in our constitution. I cannot possibly fathom how ignorant people are of history or even current events. What world do democrats live in? Are you so easily brain washed into being a politically correct, constitution ignoring, talking point regurgitating moron, so that your "leaders" can buy votes and centralize their power?


So sorry to see another one bite the dust and disappear into a cloud of pathetic partisan debris.
 
2012-10-31 01:47:38 PM
Dear David,

Instead of trying to sway millions of voters to hand Romney the keys to the White House out of your assessment of GOP intransigence, why not try to persuade a couple hundred lawmakers to simply DO THEIR FARKING JOB!

Seriously, fark you.

-doyner
 
2012-10-31 02:28:52 PM

doyner: Dear David,

Instead of trying to sway millions of voters to hand Romney the keys to the White House out of your assessment of GOP intransigence, why not try to persuade a couple hundred lawmakers to simply DO THEIR FARKING JOB!

Seriously, fark you.

-doyner


What he said.
 
2012-10-31 06:22:58 PM

ThrowYourHatredDown: doyner: Dear David,

Instead of trying to sway millions of voters to hand Romney the keys to the White House out of your assessment of GOP intransigence, why not try to persuade a couple hundred lawmakers to simply DO THEIR FARKING JOB!

Seriously, fark you.

-doyner

What he said.


Is it treason, or just sedition for a politician to deliberately fail at the job?
Fail? Actively fark* the rooster is more like it.

*fark=Full Retard+"real rape"
 
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