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2012-10-30 07:19:38 PM

SoundOfOneHandWanking: It amazes me how such a full-blown piece of shiat like Windows can get such praise for adding feature that have been on mainframe operating system since the 60's and 70's.

VM? Again, WOW!

Sandbox? WOW!

MS has cost the world an ungodly amount of money with their 'upgrades'


It's a CONSUMER operating system, you douche!

How many farking consumers interface with mainframes in their homes?

What's next? Hating a new car because they added something first used during the Apollo program?
 
2012-10-30 09:01:14 PM

syrynxx: ForgotMyTowel: I'm curious, why do think there won't be an icon to start the program you want? You'll have three options (just like Win 7). An icon on your desktop, an icon on your taskbar or an icon on the Start Screen.

Because there weren't. No icon on the Desktop, no icon on the Metro Start screen, and no icon on the Taskbar. I've been using this system for about three years, and at current count, have 56 folders off my Start menu. God knows how many icons under those folders, and I don't know all of their names. I don't like using the Desktop; I usually throw any desktop icons into a folder called "CleanDesk" and never use them. I had about 10 apps linked to the taskbar, and another six or so linked to the Start Menu. When I performed an in-place upgrade from Win7 Home to Win8 Pro, all I had were the apps pegged to my Taskbar. My Metro screen didn't have any icons displayed for either apps linked to my old Start Menu or the "CleanDesk" folder where Win7 desktop icons were. The only place my old icons existed was within a flat, enormous nightmare that is even worse than the Metro screen:

[i831.photobucket.com image 640x400]

That is not an improvement over the Win7 Start menu. That is utter crap.

Either Microsoft never tested upgrading Windows 7 systems with many apps installed to Windows 8, or they got results like these and dismissed them because they didn't care. I know what the answer is - I've seen ivory-tower comments saying that "only x% of users do YYYY", where x is some small number like 6-8%. That's still an egregious design flaw. Ballmer dismissed that users even used the Start menu at all, because he could pin icons to the taskbar in Windows 7. This arrogance assumes that everyone is already running Windows 7 (false) and that users only use a limited number of apps (false in many cases).

I'm running Start8 now, and I have all my Start menu icons back. For the most part I can ignore that the awful Metro tumor off to the right doesn't e ...


This is such an excellent post it needs to be repeated.


/not sarcasm
//this whole thing is so f'n ridiculous
 
2012-10-30 09:02:06 PM

sure haven't: //this whole Windows 8 thing is so f'n ridiculous


/ftfm
 
2012-10-30 10:56:37 PM
I was impressed how fast Win8 was when I installed it on an older laptop. I'm thinking about jumping in with my main work computer and seeing if I can bend it to my will. I just hope our enterprise encryption works on it.
 
2012-10-30 11:55:41 PM

Hand Banana: pacified: OMG. Can someone just slap this Linux guy? No one farking cares bro. Jesus.

I figured most people had him on ignore by now. I mean, obvious troll is obvious.


Every. single. thread. People still fall for it. The guy couldn't configure any OS install if his ass depended on it and people still fall for it.
 
2012-10-31 12:59:43 AM

rhiannon: Hand Banana: pacified: OMG. Can someone just slap this Linux guy? No one farking cares bro. Jesus.

I figured most people had him on ignore by now. I mean, obvious troll is obvious.

Every. single. thread. People still fall for it. The guy couldn't configure any OS install if his ass depended on it and people still fall for it.


Yeesh. I'll admit it, I'm a Linux user and a strong advocate for "free" software (ya'll know, as in "free speech" not "free beer"). Hell, I even took a few days off work and drove to Columbus in order to attend Ohio Linux Fest.

I really, really hope the guy is a troll and not a serious proselyletizer. At this point "year of the Linux desktop" has become a meme that elicits cynical laughter from the Linux community itself. The biggest prospect for Linux is the third-world via the Raspberry Pi. There might be a marginal shift in the US if Steam actually follows through in supporting Linux, but I don't see Windows losing dominance in the US in the foreseeable future.

Most important: likes an "I'm better than you because I think my thingie is better than your thingie" douche.

*yourenothelping.jpg*
 
2012-10-31 01:22:20 AM

vudukungfu: Hey, Gates!
Tiles!?!?
Really?


The first version of Windows couldn't do overlapping windows either. Sooner or later, history does in fact repeat itself.

I hope this doesn't mean that Windows 8 comes on 3,268 floppies.
 
2012-10-31 01:35:39 AM

DeArmondVI: rhiannon: Hand Banana: pacified: OMG. Can someone just slap this Linux guy? No one farking cares bro. Jesus.

I figured most people had him on ignore by now. I mean, obvious troll is obvious.

Every. single. thread. People still fall for it. The guy couldn't configure any OS install if his ass depended on it and people still fall for it.

Yeesh. I'll admit it, I'm a Linux user and a strong advocate for "free" software (ya'll know, as in "free speech" not "free beer"). Hell, I even took a few days off work and drove to Columbus in order to attend Ohio Linux Fest.

I really, really hope the guy is a troll and not a serious proselyletizer. At this point "year of the Linux desktop" has become a meme that elicits cynical laughter from the Linux community itself. The biggest prospect for Linux is the third-world via the Raspberry Pi. There might be a marginal shift in the US if Steam actually follows through in supporting Linux, but I don't see Windows losing dominance in the US in the foreseeable future.

Most important: likes an "I'm better than you because I think my thingie is better than your thingie" douche.

*yourenothelping.jpg*


*no one likes*....

For being most important, i kinda screwed the pooch on that one
 
2012-10-31 03:08:09 AM

Linux_Yes: Operating system Security: best to worst.

1)Unix
2)Linux (a clone of Unix)
3)MacOSX (highly customized Unix under the hood)
4)Windows

happy surfing!!


The funny thing about that is if you invert the list, you now have a list of "Operating System Usefulness: Best to Worst".

Of course, the real problem is that you're conflating potential security with actual security - IE, Windows is the most "dangerous" to use mostly because that's what virus-makers expect you to use, and so write viruses and malware for it. I mean, if you think Windows is easy to break into, you should perk up at the virus potential of a well-documented open source system. Pity hardly anyone uses it, though, not much point in making viruses for it...
 
2012-10-31 06:57:32 AM

MechTard: Hawnkee: Leaked preview of Windows 9:

[www.instablogsimages.com image 250x203]

Actually, in all seriousness, that is Windows 2012's preferred method of operation. The whole thing is meant to be ran through Power Shell, with a single machine with a GUI to drive the MMC to control them all for guys like me who have gotten too used to menu systems.


That's what I kept hearing about 2008 but haven't used enough to really know. The couple folks I know who went to training said exactly same thing about a push back to the CLI. Still, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.
 
2012-10-31 07:41:49 AM
art.penny-arcade.com
 
2012-10-31 10:43:27 AM
Windows 8 is going to be a nightmare for anyone who has to do tech support (without remote desktop). Its going to be a gigantic pain in the arse to describe to people how to get to whatever config screen you need to fix something.
 
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