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2012-10-30 03:10:37 PM

blatz514: MoronLessOff: kokomo61: I took some No-Doz the first time I had to work a midnight shift. After a couple hours when I was getting drowsy...I took some more. I think 5 tablets in total. About an hour later, my hands started shaking, and I turned about 3 shades of green, and started vomiting. I went to the ER, thinking I was going to die. Told them what happened, and they just laughed and laughed.

Was fine the next day, but damn, that was nasty.

This is almost exactly my story, except I threw a paper bag full of vomit out of a movie car.

Was it this car?

[sweetsantuary.files.wordpress.com image 568x426]



Damn you, I was going to post Christine
 
2012-10-30 03:20:00 PM

roc6783: MythDragon: [www.cmt.com image 430x250]
"I don't know how much it was going to take, but I know how much she used."

This is like the 5th time someone mentioned Ron White in a thread today. Did he just have a new special come out or something?


Ron is ALWAYS relevant.
 
2012-10-30 03:24:14 PM

L'mours: blatz514: MoronLessOff: kokomo61: I took some No-Doz the first time I had to work a midnight shift. After a couple hours when I was getting drowsy...I took some more. I think 5 tablets in total. About an hour later, my hands started shaking, and I turned about 3 shades of green, and started vomiting. I went to the ER, thinking I was going to die. Told them what happened, and they just laughed and laughed.

Was fine the next day, but damn, that was nasty.

This is almost exactly my story, except I threw a paper bag full of vomit out of a movie car.

Was it this car?

[sweetsantuary.files.wordpress.com image 568x426]


Damn you, I was going to post Christine


I was going to post Roy Munson's car but thought BTTF would get more larfs.
 
2012-10-30 03:32:38 PM
24.media.tumblr.com 

/I want to rethink my life
 
2012-10-30 03:35:56 PM

roc6783: GranoblasticMan: roc6783: gopher321: Remember folks! Decaf is the tool of the devil!

I have never understood the desire to drink non-alcoholic beer or decaf coffee. Who the hell drinks those just because they taste good?

So, cheap vodak and no-doz are just as good as a craft beer or fresh coffee to you?

Sorry, I got the caffeine shakes and dropped a "just". No, coffee and beer do not taste good enough to me by themselves to warrant consumption without the pleasant side effects offered by their active ingredients.

They are, however, more enjoyable than cheap vodka or No-Doze.


Fair enough... I can agree with that.
 
2012-10-30 03:49:11 PM

tlchwi02: Saners: tlchwi02: why is a 14 y/o allowed to drink that much caffeine anyway? parents should not allow kids to drink that much caffeine, doesn' take a surgeon general to tell you thats not a safe thing

Well a bottle of Monster isn't really that difficult to get a hold of as a high schooler. It isn't kept locked behind a counter or anything.

What I don't get is caffeine free soda. It's like "hmm, I want a product that rots my teeth, gets me fat off empty calories and tastes like shiat but I don't want to feel good while doing so. Oh look!"

i guess. but when i went to high school in the 1990's/2000's we weren't supposed to leave the building, and they didn't sell energy drinks on site. i suppose one could have snuck out, but to sneak out and buy a big pile of energy drinks? seems far more likely the parents were aware/cool with it from the way the story is potrayed than the teenager was doing some covert caffeine runs. and frankly, if you let your 14 y/o keep themselves at a stage of full caffeinated, you're kind of asking for problems.


While they're walking to school, while they're biking to school, while they're doing the same on the way home, while they're elsewhere, etc? If your high school years consist only of instances where you were on campus during school hours or under parental supervision... I feel sort of bad for you.
 
2012-10-30 03:57:23 PM
www.energyfiend.com

Just enough caffeine to overdose a 190 lb person if you can get them to drink all 32 ozs at once.
 
2012-10-30 03:59:47 PM
If you ever get too much caffeine in you, you'll know. You'll feel awful.
 
2012-10-30 04:00:18 PM

blackomne: [www.energyfiend.com image 125x173]

Just enough caffeine to overdose a 190 lb person if you can get them to drink all 32 ozs at once.


190? phhh we're talking about OBESE people here
 
2012-10-30 04:04:54 PM
FTA - "The answer is hard to pin down,"

That's where I stopped reading.
 
2012-10-30 04:11:43 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: blackomne: [www.energyfiend.com image 125x173]

Just enough caffeine to overdose a 190 lb person if you can get them to drink all 32 ozs at once.

190? phhh we're talking about OBESE people here


Take two and call the morgue in the morning...
 
2012-10-30 04:27:37 PM

cannotsuggestaname: eyes the headline speculatively

[media.americanfood4u.de image 800x800]


That's what I thought too. Is that available everywhere? I picked some up at a Flea Market in Ottawa, Ontario. I thought it was a local thing.

So tasty.

As for caffeine, I admit to being an addict, and drinking, say, a Monster sometimes makes me very irritable (per coworkers) but nearly superhuman in productivity and awareness. (In all likelyhood it's also a frickin' long day in the field with little food, no shelter, and a lot of work...) I'm also fairly certain I've sidestepped into a tangent dimension once or twice after having had a Monster, then a coffee, and possibly a pop or two. But hello; it's a drug, it modifies biological processes, and while the risks are nil, I'mI snorted in derision when the voice behind the mike suggested more regulations on sales to minors. If they do that, will they also ensure that the same regs apply to every vending machine, Tim Hortons, and restaurant where coffee might be had?

Don't regulate, educate!

I do admit the stuff is addictive though, I try every so often to kick the habit (the only good thing about a flu is it masks the caffeine withdrawl), but my work shifts often run into the 12-15 hour range, with no food. I need some stims. Rage only takes me so far.
 
2012-10-30 04:28:23 PM

bdub77: Obligatory:

[farm5.staticflickr.com image 480x352]


leaving satisfied
 
2012-10-30 04:30:04 PM

ThreadSinger: cannotsuggestaname: eyes the headline speculatively

[media.americanfood4u.de image 800x800]

That's what I thought too. Is that available everywhere? I picked some up at a Flea Market in Ottawa, Ontario. I thought it was a local thing.

I must go buy this. Do you remember where exactly you got it from?

/in Ottawa
 
2012-10-30 04:30:50 PM
FTFA - Including caffeine in soft drinks and energy drinks piggybacks on the dependence that coffee, tea, cola and chocolate have created with their natural caffeine content. The effect most people conflate with caffeine stimulation, James wrote, is primarily "withdrawal reversal," which lends the sensation of a small high when, in reality, "the person is merely restored to how they would have been feeling had they not been a caffeine consumer in the first place."

BULLshiat.

The idea that most people don't actually get more energy from caffeine is just so silly that I can't believe they even put that nonsense in the article.
 
2012-10-30 04:40:06 PM
I once downed nine cups of Starbucks espresso and seventeen cans of Red Bull. I'm not dead.
 
2012-10-30 04:52:38 PM

roc6783: gopher321: Remember folks! Decaf is the tool of the devil!

I have never understood the desire to drink non-alcoholic beer or decaf coffee. Who the hell drinks those because they taste good?


There is a placebo effect from decaf. Same with going to weak cigarettes. It's an oral fixation that primes dopamine release.

And I do drink regular coffee for the taste. Before I found out benydril is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and started popping them in leiu of a proper antidepressant caffeine did absolutely nothing for me except make me pee. I could slam really strong coffee all morning long or take a bunch of caffeine pills and still want to go to sleep. Now I get a buzz off nicotene and caffeine keeps me going.
 
2012-10-30 05:57:30 PM

ThreadSinger: That's what I thought too. Is that available everywhere? I picked some up at a Flea Market in Ottawa, Ontario. I thought it was a local thing.

So tasty.




Death Sauce

Blair makes some incredible sauces :)
 
2012-10-30 06:24:26 PM
soo less than i consume on the average day gotcha

id rather see "science" tell me why too much of it makes me sleepy
 
2012-10-30 09:02:31 PM
www.kowalskiness.com
 
2012-10-30 10:00:02 PM
wildcardjack: This seems like a bad idea.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]


Last I heard it takes less pure powder caffine to OD than it does powder cocaine
 
2012-10-30 10:28:50 PM

Stibium: roc6783: gopher321: Remember folks! Decaf is the tool of the devil!

I have never understood the desire to drink non-alcoholic beer or decaf coffee. Who the hell drinks those because they taste good?

There is a placebo effect from decaf. Same with going to weak cigarettes. It's an oral fixation that primes dopamine release.

And I do drink regular coffee for the taste. Before I found out benydril is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor and started popping them in leiu of a proper antidepressant caffeine did absolutely nothing for me except make me pee. I could slam really strong coffee all morning long or take a bunch of caffeine pills and still want to go to sleep. Now I get a buzz off nicotene and caffeine keeps me going.



I had to drop caffeine last year due to an inner ear virus that would send me into vertigo anytime I drank it. And I used to drink a lot of coffee. But, I missed my morning coffee while reading up on e-mail and the news, so I switched to decaf, and lo and behold it turns out the placebo effect is almost as good at waking you up but without any jitters or bouncing around.

There's a bunch of local roasters here with decaf roasts that are just as good as the normal. The key to good coffee, of any type, is freshest roast you can get and grind your own beans. Tastes great.

It's been a year now and I can drink the occasional caffeinated espresso, but in the morning, I still do the decaf thing.
 
2012-10-31 12:34:19 AM
I'll just leave this here before I go to bed.

No, really, need sleep. Sleep is good. Yes.
 
2012-10-31 12:35:05 AM
Just be safe and do meth, as long as you stay under 1 gram a day it won't kill you. Problem solved?
 
2012-10-31 12:40:33 AM
Saners

What I don't get is caffeine free soda. It's like "hmm, I want a product that rots my teeth, gets me fat off empty calories and tastes like shiat but I don't want to feel good while doing so. Oh look.

I think you missed the point about 'soft drinks'. They're supposed to just taste good. Prior to Coke -- with it's legal cocaine added as a 'pick-me-up' tonic, soft drinks consisted of seltzer water and a sweet, fruit flavored syrup. A cold glass of seltzer water was a frequent purchase in old time 'Malt shops'.

I'm not real sure when soda companies started adding caffeine. I do recall the Coke/Pepsi wars though and folks getting hooked on Pepsi as their morning 'coffee'. Then, along came 'Mountain Dew'.

Coffee smells heavenly when being brewed. It tastes great when properly prepared with cream and sugar. Though big business has managed to turn out an astonishing amount of cheap, crappy coffee pots that can reduce good coffee to paint thinner in a matter of minutes. The worst offender being those huge, aluminum, tubular coffee pots with the external spout, usually found in meeting halls, churches and at AA meetings that brew about a gallon at once and rapidly burn it beyond recognition.

(I think they use them at AA meetings as a form of punishment.)

I cut my coffee intake down decades ago, getting tired of the irritability it gave me along with trembling hands.

I suspect that much of it's popularity came from not only the scent of it being brewed, but, as folks started getting up earlier to work and going to bed later, the caffeine helped shake the cobwebs out of their brains and get them rolling. In the long run, you can still be tired though jumpy after guzzling too much coffee.
 
2012-10-31 12:47:39 AM

roc6783: gopher321: Remember folks! Decaf is the tool of the devil!

I have never understood the desire to drink non-alcoholic beer or decaf coffee. Who the hell drinks those because they taste good?


I wouldn't drink beer again regular, lite or alchol free because it tastes (to me) what I imagine piss would taste like... None of it tastes good to me. I will happily drink wine or Amaretto though.

Because of a medical issue I've had to cut back. I get to have one cup in the morning, I don't become a part of the human race until the Coffee Goddess has blessed me. It's like Night of the Living Dead, not pretty folks... Any additional coffee I drink is decaf but I rarely have a second cup. But do I need that one!
 
2012-10-31 01:20:17 AM
Am I the only one who was confused by this?

FTA: the two people who died in New Mexico--a woman who might've used caffeine to cut intravenous drugs, and a man whose family said he ingested a bottle of sleeping pills--both had concentrations 100 times higher. 

A bottle of sleeping pills had a high concentration of caffeine? You're doing it wrong.
 
2012-10-31 01:24:25 AM
Full pot of coffee before I leave the house, 6-8 16 oz cups during the day, for 25ish years. It is still the greatest substance this earth has yet created.
 
2012-10-31 04:53:55 AM
Now that I have mah bucket back I can share the coffee cup I made with you all!
Look at my coffee cup...
my coffee cup, look at it!
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for a size compariso:
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the bottom (since it's coffe cups on a coffee cup):
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It holds about 55-60oz of coffee (or beer ;)
 
2012-10-31 05:25:59 AM

FizixJunkee: n


It is comments like this which keep me on FARK. Washing down 3 or 4 dexamphetamines with a Thai redbull at breakfast, then having a coffee when I get to work keeps me level and calm.

ISO15693: pute kisses like a man: xanadian: Winterlight: Cythraul: Like Iocane powder, I think I've rendered myself immune to the damaging effects of caffeine.

Inconceivable!

That word...I do not think it means what you think it means.

/off to go get me some more death juice

at night, after work, if I have a strong cup of coffee it sends me straight to sleep. in the morning, it is the lifeblood from which I flow.

Do you have ADD?


The answer is obviously yes (the only question really, is whether it has been professionally diagnosed)
 
2012-10-31 09:29:41 AM

Oldiron_79: wildcardjack: This seems like a bad idea.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Last I heard it takes less pure powder caffine to OD than it does powder cocaine


LD50 for cocaine? 1200mg/Kg
LD50 for nicotine? 75mg/Kg

The more you know...

/anyone know the LD50 for caffeine?
 
2012-10-31 11:39:16 AM

dready zim: Oldiron_79: wildcardjack: This seems like a bad idea.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Last I heard it takes less pure powder caffine to OD than it does powder cocaine

LD50 for cocaine? 1200mg/Kg
LD50 for nicotine? 75mg/Kg

The more you know...

/anyone know the LD50 for caffeine?


Wikipedia says 150-200mg/Kg for humans, 192mg/Kg for Rats
 
2012-10-31 11:59:22 AM

ThreadSinger: cannotsuggestaname: eyes the headline speculatively

[media.americanfood4u.de image 800x800]

That's what I thought too. Is that available everywhere? I picked some up at a Flea Market in Ottawa, Ontario. I thought it was a local thing.

So tasty.

As for caffeine, I admit to being an addict, and drinking, say, a Monster sometimes makes me very irritable (per coworkers) but nearly superhuman in productivity and awareness. (In all likelyhood it's also a frickin' long day in the field with little food, no shelter, and a lot of work...) I'm also fairly certain I've sidestepped into a tangent dimension once or twice after having had a Monster, then a coffee, and possibly a pop or two. But hello; it's a drug, it modifies biological processes, and while the risks are nil, I'mI snorted in derision when the voice behind the mike suggested more regulations on sales to minors. If they do that, will they also ensure that the same regs apply to every vending machine, Tim Hortons, and restaurant where coffee might be had?

Don't regulate, educate!

I do admit the stuff is addictive though, I try every so often to kick the habit (the only good thing about a flu is it masks the caffeine withdrawl), but my work shifts often run into the 12-15 hour range, with no food. I need some stims. Rage only takes me so far.


Don't give us that shiat. Unless you're in a deep-sea diving rig or a space suit, you can always pack a couple of Clif bars in your toolbox or your pockets.
 
2012-10-31 03:48:31 PM

FrancoFile: ThreadSinger: cannotsuggestaname: eyes the headline speculatively

[media.americanfood4u.de image 800x800]

That's what I thought too. Is that available everywhere? I picked some up at a Flea Market in Ottawa, Ontario. I thought it was a local thing.

So tasty.

As for caffeine, I admit to being an addict, and drinking, say, a Monster sometimes makes me very irritable (per coworkers) but nearly superhuman in productivity and awareness. (In all likelyhood it's also a frickin' long day in the field with little food, no shelter, and a lot of work...) I'm also fairly certain I've sidestepped into a tangent dimension once or twice after having had a Monster, then a coffee, and possibly a pop or two. But hello; it's a drug, it modifies biological processes, and while the risks are nil, I'mI snorted in derision when the voice behind the mike suggested more regulations on sales to minors. If they do that, will they also ensure that the same regs apply to every vending machine, Tim Hortons, and restaurant where coffee might be had?

Don't regulate, educate!

I do admit the stuff is addictive though, I try every so often to kick the habit (the only good thing about a flu is it masks the caffeine withdrawl), but my work shifts often run into the 12-15 hour range, with no food. I need some stims. Rage only takes me so far.

Don't give us that shiat. Unless you're in a deep-sea diving rig or a space suit, you can always pack a couple of Clif bars in your toolbox or your pockets.


maybe he's trying to go on a no food diet
i've been on those too
lost more muscle than i did fat.

just kidding i didn't keep track
it's
 
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