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(Daily Mail)   Britain's youngest sex change patient wants to become a man again after only a year because living as a woman has made her miserable. Why, it's almost like S/He had major psychological issues that should have been addressed first   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 35
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2012-10-30 09:39:11 AM
6 votes:
The article is intentionally misleading. This young individual is ceasing to live as a woman and take the hormone drugs. There has been no 'sex change' so far, and the reversal will not cost a great deal of money to the taxpayer. Transphobia stew.
2012-10-30 09:34:10 AM
5 votes:
So far, he has only been on hormone therapy and received psychotherapy required before the reassignment surgery. He has not undergone any sex change. So the story is pure BS.
2012-10-30 08:18:03 AM
5 votes:
To people out there thinking about getting a sex change, I really wish you'd spend a good year or two thinking this decision through. All you jerks out there who get the change and then want to change back make the rest of the transgender community look like psychos.

*sigh*
2012-10-30 10:46:15 AM
4 votes:

CrappityCrap: shiat like this is one of the many reasons why sex change operations are a worthless treatment for this kind of mental illness. Have an XY chromosome? You're a dude. Have an XX chromosome? Female. farking deal with it or get psychiatric help.


And if you're XXY? Or XYY? Or XXYY? Or XY but have AIS? Or XX but have a translocated SRY gene? Shiat, dude, parroting that old elementary-school level of science only makes you look ignorant and naive.
2012-10-30 09:56:51 AM
4 votes:
shiat like this is one of the many reasons why sex change operations are a worthless treatment for this kind of mental illness. Have an XY chromosome? You're a dude. Have an XX chromosome? Female. farking deal with it or get psychiatric help.
2012-10-30 09:29:17 AM
4 votes:
Nobody can "become" the opposite gender, one can only become transgendered. There's a difference.
2012-10-30 10:43:25 AM
3 votes:

Cythraul: CrappityCrap: shiat like this is one of the many reasons why sex change operations are a worthless treatment for this kind of mental illness. Have an XY chromosome? You're a dude. Have an XX chromosome? Female. farking deal with it or get psychiatric help.

I have read where people with gender identity issues who undergo a sex change operation have had very positive effects in their lives post change. As long as the person in question can truly have such a positive outcome after a sex change operation, and if their desire for the change doesn't come from some other need in their lives, a need that wouldn't be resolved by a sex change, then I see no reason to deny or judge him or her for that decision since their choice to change their sex doesn't harm my life in the slightest.

And whether or not they were born with XX, or XY, how they identify themselves is important to them, and out of respect, I will identify them likewise. If he wants to become a she, and wishes to live that life and be identified in that way, I will no longer refer to that person as a male, and vice versa.


Most studies I've read focus specifically on male-to-female transgender folks in the US, so this may not be valid elsewhere, but; the majority of them appear to have severe psychological problems prior to any gender change (closeted and/or pre-op), and it's usually exacerbated afterwards. Depression, schizophrenia and various neurotic disorders are pretty common. The suicide rate skyrockets too.

From an armchair not-qualified-to-be-any-sort-of-psych's view, it seems like playing dress up, or even (semi?) permanently wearing a costume doesn't act as a sort of magical panacea that it's sometimes believed to be. The resultant letdown makes things worse - and that's not even taking into account the potentially negative impact from society. Those are just my guesses though.

What I find more interesting is the whole transgender concept. In my limited experience with male-to-female TGs, I note that they seem to define women based on cultural sterotypes. How they dress, what jobs they view as suitable, etc. Superficial changes like a dress or body shape define intrinsic 'femaleness' - when it's obvious that's just a cultural norm. Further research noted that - again, in the US only - there's a strong correlation between male-to-female TG's and being raised by a single mother, or being the youngest son. (I can't google for these links right now thanks to filters).

This isn't the case in other countries, such as Thailand.

What the armchair-psych in me says, is that perhaps in the US many of these individuals actually aren't transgender, but rather, at odds with themselves and society, and can probably obtain happiness by introspection, therapy, and time - as per kiwimoogle84's example.

Of course, by suggesting this, it means that both the anti-tg and pro-tg crowd will see me as the enemy. Oh well, it's not like I'm expecting either of them to engage rationally in what's obviously an emotionally charged issue with little common sense apparent. :)
2012-10-30 09:31:51 AM
3 votes:
You mean what doctors have been telling people to do for years and not what that special interest people have been crowing? I am shocked.
2012-10-30 09:53:15 AM
2 votes:
First: The person in the story didn't have a sex change, he started transition. It's a process, not a state change. From the sounds of it, he started female hormones (and therapy, of course) and that was it.

Cythraul: To people out there thinking about getting a sex change, I really wish you'd spend a good year or two thinking this decision through. All you jerks out there who get the change and then want to change back make the rest of the transgender community look like psychos.

*sigh*


WPATH guidelines require a year of living the life of the correct gender (or a damned good reason why that can't happen, and being poor isn't good enough - being in Saudi Arabia is,though.) Most surgeons I've run into also require at least one year of hormones. And you figure out fairly quickly after starting hormones if this is "right" or not; while some people DO have issues down the road, most are from discrimination and/or comorbid mental issues that were previously masked by the gender issues (for example, I have anxiety issues in large crowds - but because I just plain didn't like people previously, I didn't realize that I was more uncomfortable in a room with a dozen people than I was in a room with five or six.) I started hormones on the theory of "I think this is right, but the only way to know for sure is to try it." Within two weeks, I had gotten to the point of "Is this what everyone else feels like? I feel like I did when I was a kid, connected and healthy... it's been a while!" - so I knew that it was for me. If I hadn't felt that way, I would have stopped hormones within a few months.

cman: I love the transgendered folk to death, but there are many ethical issues that still need to be addressed. For instance, should we give drugs to children to stifle puberty? Should we allow children to have sex changes?

IMO, the child years are probably not the best to fark around with. When they become adults, that is fine, but children, its hard, lol. God I wish there was an easy answer to all of this.


Agreed, mostly. Children should be allowed to be children, not forced to fit a mold of being cisgender or transgender. On the other hand, stopping hormones before they take effect ALSO screws up the body, possibly worse... it's a conundrum.

---

One last note: I've considered detransitioning. Not all of my days are good days; sometimes they are very bad days. When I get called "sir" by people that have never met me before, when I get called "he" by coworkers that have not been told I transitioned, when I get the stinkeye for daring to use a public bathroom... those all hurt. When Cathy Brennan calls me a freak, when Roseanne Barr says "if she has a penis she is not allowed in", when my half-sister tells me that her husband doesn't really want to see or talk to me - I wonder "what's the point?"

I'll always be a woman, but sometimes I want those hurts to go away. Then I remember what I felt like when I was crossdressing (that is, pretending to be male) and I realize that this is worth any pain in the world.

mahuika: On top of that, all of her misery allegedly stems from the fact that she's been alienated by their family and friends since she began living as a woman. At one point, she basically says "Maybe my family would take me back if I tried to live as a trendy gay man instead of as a woman." and at several other points she brings up experiencing intense loneliness.


The loneliness part sucks for many transgender people. Fortunately for me, the half-sister and her husband are the only ones that seem to outright mind, though my father has apparently started outing me to my friends (that knew already, but he didn't know that!)... Everyone else in the family seems to prefer Karen to my old self.
2012-10-30 09:49:00 AM
2 votes:

theoutlaw: The article is intentionally misleading. This young individual is ceasing to live as a woman and take the hormone drugs. There has been no 'sex change' so far, and the reversal will not cost a great deal of money to the taxpayer. Transphobia stew.


On top of that, all of her misery allegedly stems from the fact that she's been alienated by their family and friends since she began living as a woman. At one point, she basically says "Maybe my family would take me back if I tried to live as a trendy gay man instead of as a woman." and at several other points she brings up experiencing intense loneliness.
Skr
2012-10-30 09:43:23 AM
2 votes:
Huh, this seems more like a success story of the process working than a negative.
2012-10-30 09:39:37 AM
2 votes:
I thought you were REQUIRED to have counseling and live as the other sex for at least a year before anyone would give you an actual sex change operation.
2012-10-30 08:30:34 AM
2 votes:

Cythraul: To people out there thinking about getting a sex change, I really wish you'd spend a good year or two thinking this decision through. All you jerks out there who get the change and then want to change back make the rest of the transgender community look like psychos.

*sigh*


I love the transgendered folk to death, but there are many ethical issues that still need to be addressed. For instance, should we give drugs to children to stifle puberty? Should we allow children to have sex changes?

IMO, the child years are probably not the best to fark around with. When they become adults, that is fine, but children, its hard, lol. God I wish there was an easy answer to all of this.
2012-10-31 12:47:38 PM
1 votes:

doubled99: Let's all do mental gymnastics so every bizarre mutation or dysfunctional person can feel as comfortable as possible and pretend they're normal.
Otherwise you're just a racist, homophobic hatemonger.


How about "Let's not be assholes to people for reasons that have nothing to do with us and have no effect on our lives whatsoever." -can you try to play that game?
2012-10-31 02:59:08 AM
1 votes:

The One True TheDavid: If the castration complex continues to spread its advertising by shills like you


It is plainly obvious that your own issues with gender identity brought you into contact with people in the psychiatry profession that tried to lead you down a path you weren't meant to go. Now you're carrying some severe emotional baggage that causes you to see conspiracies everywhere, labeling anyone who doesn't agree with you as being complicit in their scheme.

Just because you may have had a bad experience does not negate transitioning as a treatment for others. Different strokes for different folks. It works for some people and not for others. But that doesn't matter to you. You're like a transsexual truther. It has to be a money making conspiracy, and most everyone in this thread must be in on it.

I'm no shill, but I'll never be able to convince you otherwise. Since others have pointed out that you're always like this, I'll just chalk you down as emotionally and psychologically crippled. There is no longer a point in talking with you or reading your tripe.


/add to ignore list
2012-10-30 11:01:37 PM
1 votes:
I'm not sure if half the ignorance fueled hate posted here is simply trolling or actual belief. However, my daily interactions with people tends to lend me to believe that it is probably the latter. Being that ignorance is curable and that stupidity is not, I will not let that oh so miniscule spark of hope fade away, that we as a species might rise above our urge to shun anyone who dares not fit into the gender binary.*

I hesitate to speak out at all, lest I further enable the stereotype of the attention mongering trans person, but I feel the need to refute certain concepts stated here at least at a personal level. To claim that those of us outside of the gender binary are mentally/ emotionally imbalanced, are frustrated gay people, or are simply making it up; is simply ignorant to the point of silly.

That's right, silly.



*Or anyone else who chooses to be non obnoxiously different for that matter.
2012-10-30 03:33:18 PM
1 votes:
Terri Schiavo's Brain Cavity:

Many people with hermaphrodism of the brain end up with gender identity disorders.

Most people who think they're "transsexual" don't in fact have "hermaphrodism of the brain." They just like to play Barbies when the other boys are playing with GI Joes.

It's an essentially trivial problem Society has blown way out of proportion with hundreds of years of insisting on wrong-headed dogmas saying "boys do this and girls do that."

But of course the vaunted experts who amass lots of MONEY and POWER saying "We can fix your problem with surgery!" will say otherwise. And lots of people, being sheep of the "liberal" persuasion, will agree with that, just as sheep of the "conservative" persuasion will recommend lots of prayer instead.

The answer is simple: Make room! Make room!

It will take time -- it's easier and quicker to castrate these people surgically -- but then patrons of the Lost Cause eventualy realized that letting dark-skinned men pee into "Whites Only" urinals won't automagically knock up every Scarlette O'Hara in Alabama.

The castration-complex industry is also an example of "blaming the victim" because it says the problem belongs to the person who feels his "gender" doesn't match his chromosomal and anatomical sex. In reality this is yet another example of Society's hatred of "sissies" and the internalized psychological torture it inflicts on the confused and desperate victims of this "syndrome."

Why not say, oh, "Leon, boys can wear skirts and play with Barbies too. There's room for all kinds of people whose behaviors don't hurt anybody. And those two or three unaccepting kids in your class, well, their parents are too stupid to teach them any better. Now let's hurry or we'll miss your karate class."

After a few generations of this, bingo, social attitudes will change. And all those people who preyed on the weak and confused will have to find another way to amass lots of money and power. 

Of course you and your ilk will now insult me for recommending simple common sense, but hey, if it weren't for cheerleaders like you they'd have to advertise "sex change" on TV along with Cialis and Lipitor. It's so much easier and cheaper to convince you "liberal" sheep to propagandize for them.

Here's another "real problem" that a lot of people are convinced they need medical help for: Morgellons. These people actually believe they're infected with an organism previously unknown to Science that a bunch of mean luddites won't help them fix. Obviously (and you're reading it here first) the remedy is surgical intervention by skilled professionals! Hurry up! Climb on your high horse and advocate for these suffering people's need for medical treatment! (Think too of all the BMW dealers suffering from all this, and the single-malts I could buy after painting the car dealers' bathrooms.)
2012-10-30 02:45:12 PM
1 votes:

The One True TheDavid: Theaetetus: The One True TheDavid:

Which doesn't need to be "fixed" with surgery. Rather it needs those social filters regarding sex and gender readjusted.

I bet I could find a surgeon who could describe in perfect detail how to perform gender reassignment surgery before you could find a "social engineer" who can describe in perfect detail how to "adjust filters". I'd even put money on it. How about you?

Of course you could, because there's more money in surgery than in changing long-term social attitudes.


Oh, now who's being naive, Lisa?
Long-term social attitude change created the concept of pink for girls, leading to literally trillions in revenue for pink products, as well as the entire Victoria's Secret clothing spin-off line. Don't be silly. There's plenty more money there than in surgery.

Your comment by the way addresses another of my points against "sex change" surgery: THEY CHARGE LOTS OF MONEY FOR THIS, YOU FOOLS. That's why they do it, and it's why they want y'all to keep getting it done.

Wasn't my comment, actually, that was your incredibly naive strawman. It actually fails to address my comment, which was that we currently have a surgical procedure to remove that mind-body gender disconnection, but we don't currently have a "social filter fix" or whatever it is you're proposing.

You analogize this to the social engineering that desegregated society... Okay, where's the corresponding surgical procedure that whitifies people? There isn't one? Your analogy is a false analogy? Exactly.

The One True TheDavid: Using "sex change surgery" as the final solution to the sex/gender problem is as wrong and as wrong-headed as killing Jews to fix the Versailles Treaty...


And Godwin'd. Why are you so angry and defensive that you'd have to resort to Holocaust comparisons to support your patently false analogy? It really isn't necessary, you know, nor does it ever convince anyone.
2012-10-30 02:32:59 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: The One True TheDavid:

Which doesn't need to be "fixed" with surgery. Rather it needs those social filters regarding sex and gender readjusted.

I bet I could find a surgeon who could describe in perfect detail how to perform gender reassignment surgery before you could find a "social engineer" who can describe in perfect detail how to "adjust filters". I'd even put money on it. How about you?


Of course you could, because there's more money in surgery than in changing long-term social attitudes. Again, in the USA we no longer have "Whites Only" rest rooms; eventually people will get used to the idea that a person might have a penis and be very feminine in manner and dress.

Your comment by the way addresses another of my points against "sex change" surgery: THEY CHARGE LOTS OF MONEY FOR THIS, YOU FOOLS. That's why they do it, and it's why they want y'all to keep getting it done. Of course you'll find studies "proving" this "sex change surgery" is great: if they got rich from telling you to stand on your heads whistling Dixie instead that's exactly what these "studies" would say.

As in "Neuroscientists affiliated with the Stanford School of Medicine announced today that the psychological pain of feeling 'born into the wrong body' was greatly alleviated, in some cases permanently, by having people assume an upside-down position and whistle various tunes picked by a computer at random. The old spiritual known as 'Dixie' afforded the greatest relief to most patients, with 'Maryland, My Maryland' coming in second. There was even one person who was cured by whistling 'I'm In Love With My Car' by a defunct punk-rock group called English Queens."

Try getting a surgeon who thinks this surgery is great for "sufferers" and does a lot of it to do it for FREE just once. Just out of the goodness of his heart, because you'd feel so much better if your johnson were removed. I'll wager money it won't be easy to do: if there is a charity johnson-lopping service out there you'll be on a waiting list for years. (Which if there is such a thing would show how successful their pro-castration propaganda has been, when we should have been changing Society to accomodate differently-gendered people instead.)

Using "sex change surgery" as the final solution to the sex/gender problem is as wrong and as wrong-headed as killing Jews to fix the Versailles Treaty, but unfortunately there are a lot of people who amass a lot of MONEY and POWER by taking advantage of the weak, the confused and the stupid. 

Put it this way: if I can survive to 49.7 years without having a sex change anybody can. It's easy once you learn how.
2012-10-30 01:54:23 PM
1 votes:
But all women are fairly miserable, right?
2012-10-30 11:52:29 AM
1 votes:

Chameleon: frepnog: if this were more true, that people stopped caring about who had a penis and who didn't, these problems wouldn't exist because the transgender person with a penis that didn't want it wouldn't care if he had a penis or not.

sex change operations rarely fix the underlying issues and mostly just mutilate a perfectly functioning body.

/still think transgender people that want sex changes are often actually gay people that can't deal with that fact.

Fascinating theory, Watson. Where did you get your degree in neurobiology?

Seriously, there is WAY more to being transgender than the physical equipment or sexual orientation. Trans people are sometimes straight and sometimes gay (before or after transition). A huge number of transgender people choose to forgo surgery but still feel more comfortable living as their trans-sex.

Gendering seems to be an actual neurological issue. Transgendered people have been found, in numerous studies, to have brains that contain areas resembling brains of the other sex. Here's just a few:
Transsexual differences caught on brain scan
Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus
This one's in Nature:A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality

So believe what you want about transsexuality being purely psychological. Science suggests that you are wrong.


and yet here we are, with sex changes usually not fixing the issue. i get that there is scientific data backing up what you say, I really do, and I am not trying to disparage the transgender person. Whatever gets you thru the day without pulling the trigger is cool with me. I really thing however that a large percent of the transgender community would be much better off learning to be happy with what they have and trying to build a relationship with a person of the gender that they are attracted to, instead of opting for surgery that solves nothing and wearing what amounts to a costume for the rest of their life while taking meds to try and fool their body into believing that it is something that is quite IS NOT.

for alot of those people, admitting to themselves that they are probably gay would solve more issues that chopping off their dick. because let's face it - admitting to oneself that one is gay is farking HARD, not to mention admitting it to friends\family. SHOULD it be? probably not, but shiat is what shiat is.
2012-10-30 11:49:46 AM
1 votes:
According to the article, he didn't have the peener removed yet, so essentially this must involve getting off the hormone treatments and waiting until the boobies recede. Basically I think anyone who wants to have a sex change is deranged, so I guess psychological therapy shouldn't be required before they do it.
2012-10-30 11:42:50 AM
1 votes:
The earth is flat!- You are crazy!

The government may have done 9/11 to start a war for profit among the presidents friends at the time- You are crazy!

Aliens are beaming signals into my brain!- You are crazy!

I am jesus- You are crazy!

I am a woman trapped in a mans body and my penis is causing me emotional distress!- Such a brave soul, welcome to society!
2012-10-30 11:36:57 AM
1 votes:
This is what happens when you indulge teenagers and their angst-ridden problems.
2012-10-30 11:17:58 AM
1 votes:
cman:

I wish there was an easy answer to all of this.

There is: wanting a sex change operation is a strong indicator of a serious psychological problem. Gender does not equal sex; instead people should learn to live as feminine men or masculine women. Make society change for you, not the other way around.

And if adults insist on mutilating themselves that's fine, but sex change "treatments" should be denied to anyone under 18. It's at least as serious as voting, right?

And by the way, the drinking age should be lowered to 18 for beer and wine, like it was in MD when I was that age, or the Age of Majority should be raised to 21 across the board.

There should also be free public Euthanasia Centres set up at least in every major city, where adults can go to have themselves peacefully and gently "out to sleep."

Yet abortion, of course, should be provided free and in complete confidentiality to all women of childbearing age. The only qualifications should be a) pregnancy and b) the desire the end it; if you're old enough to have gotten pregnant you're old enough to abort. If that includes "odd" cases one reads about, such as the 8 year old girl in Brazil who got knocked up by her mother's boyfriend, then so be it: the kid's already been molested, why force her to be a mother on top of it?

Easy answers are easily arrived at, as they should be by any relatively well-informed, clear-headed and intelligent person: that's what makes them easy answers.

The problem is counteracting all the BS that "society" and "the media" brainwash people with, such as when somebody urges prayer to turn a hurricane (perhaps onto another area full of people) instead of getting to higher and drier ground. But then belief in a personal God who can affect such things is in itself a strong sign of serious psychological issues; perhaps such people can be encouraged to "go to Heaven" at free public euthanasia centres.

This PSA has been provided to you free of charge in the discharge of my civic duties as a citizen of the world and a netizen of cyberspace. You're very welcome.
2012-10-30 10:42:32 AM
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: theoutlaw: The article is intentionally misleading. This young individual is ceasing to live as a woman and take the hormone drugs. There has been no 'sex change' so far, and the reversal will not cost a great deal of money to the taxpayer. Transphobia stew.

It goes beyond that. It's the process working exactly as intended.

JackieRabbit: So far, he has only been on hormone therapy and received psychotherapy required before the reassignment surgery. He has not undergone any sex change. So the story is pure BS.

Oh, the horror, the horror. But I'm sure people will be along to be OUTRAGED as intended anyway.


That. Plus, apparently, his family kicked him out, and he's unemployed and effectively homeless. But no, the only possible reason for his depression must be the sex change. Outrage!
2012-10-30 10:36:21 AM
1 votes:
Be honest with yourself.
If you look in the mirror and see a guy. I mean, literally SEE a guy. Not like, "I know who I am". I mean, the facial structure, the body structure etc.
Just move on. It would take a miracle for you to come out looking like a normal woman. That or just Scrooge McDuck money.

Here's the deal. Frankenstein. If Frankenstein's creation was beautiful he would have been loved. He would have never hurt anyone. His creation even explains it in detail in the book. It's the same deal. If you look at yourself and think you can pull it off, kudos. But lets face it, there is a high probability that you will come out somewhere in the middle.

People will look at you and wince. People will say, my God. Family will be ashamed and abhored.
Or.
People will look at you and applaud your beauty. People will say, my God! Family will be supportive and receptive to your lifestyle choices.

Some people are willing to accept that chance, no matter what. But damn, someone with a fragile constitution would have a wicked hard time. Especially if it goes wrong.
2012-10-30 10:19:09 AM
1 votes:

soze: Background: I am completely supportive of the full gender identity and sexuality spectra.

However, to stir up the pot a little, in the small anecdotal sample size that I have experience with (n = 3), there is unlimited drama involved when people start the hormonal change in college. People who are effectively going through a second puberty, stuffed in a concentrated environment with others who have just gotten done going through that shiat and are trying to figure out their adult selves, make for one hell of a mix.

I, unscientifically, wonder if it might be better to begin identifying and dressing one's identified gender, but starting the physical transformation (hormones, surgery, etc) after college. All with heaps of counseling and guidance, of course.

Trans people aren't 'broken', but they have heaps of shiat to deal with and I wonder if breaking it out into smaller chunks over a longer period of time might make it more manageable.


Everybody is broken. I don't know a single person that isn't broken on some level. Some of us are more broken than others; some of us have patched together something worthwhile from our brokenness, but we're all broken.

As for your question - I'd argue that identifying and dressing as the identified gender *without* taking the hormones is a bad idea, especially in that kind of environment. I'd argue for remaining visually the birth sex while taking the hormones, if only one is possible. But then again I was taking hormones for seven months before I started the "visible" part of my transition - and even then the main impetus was "I'm not going to wear a binder, and my breasts are starting to become visible - it's time to shiat or get off the pot". Yes, I wanted to transition eventually, but...
2012-10-30 10:05:21 AM
1 votes:

hdhale: If I had my way though, the doctor that performed a sex change operation on a 17 year old would have their license to practice medicine permanently revoked--unethical in the one of the worst possible ways.


Good thing that there was no surgeon that performed a sex change operation on a 17 year old since the girl in the article hasn't had surgery. Way to read the article.

Also, nowhere did she say that she didn't really feel like a woman, or that she was happier in her old body. Only that female hormones made her moody (well duh) and that her family had completely disowned her. It's basically a sad situation that would be so much better if people stopped so much caring who had a penis and who didn't.
2012-10-30 10:04:12 AM
1 votes:

CrappityCrap: shiat like this is one of the many reasons why sex change operations are a worthless treatment for this kind of mental illness. Have an XY chromosome? You're a dude. Have an XX chromosome? Female. farking deal with it or get psychiatric help.


I have read where people with gender identity issues who undergo a sex change operation have had very positive effects in their lives post change. As long as the person in question can truly have such a positive outcome after a sex change operation, and if their desire for the change doesn't come from some other need in their lives, a need that wouldn't be resolved by a sex change, then I see no reason to deny or judge him or her for that decision since their choice to change their sex doesn't harm my life in the slightest.

And whether or not they were born with XX, or XY, how they identify themselves is important to them, and out of respect, I will identify them likewise. If he wants to become a she, and wishes to live that life and be identified in that way, I will no longer refer to that person as a male, and vice versa.
2012-10-30 09:59:25 AM
1 votes:

Cythraul: To people out there thinking about getting a sex change, I really wish you'd spend a good year or two thinking this decision through. All you jerks out there who get the change and then want to change back make the rest of the transgender community look like psychos.

*sigh*


In most instances (in Canada at least), you need to live as the gender you are transitioning to for at least a year. That should always be the case. They also have to undergo hormone therapy well before the surgery.

I have to also agree that gender reassignment surgery should not be made available to anyone under 18. You've got enough shiat to deal with at that point.
2012-10-30 09:48:28 AM
1 votes:

theoutlaw: The article is intentionally misleading. This young individual is ceasing to live as a woman and take the hormone drugs. There has been no 'sex change' so far, and the reversal will not cost a great deal of money to the taxpayer. Transphobia stew.


It goes beyond that. It's the process working exactly as intended.

JackieRabbit: So far, he has only been on hormone therapy and received psychotherapy required before the reassignment surgery. He has not undergone any sex change. So the story is pure BS.


Oh, the horror, the horror. But I'm sure people will be along to be OUTRAGED as intended anyway.
2012-10-30 09:44:02 AM
1 votes:
FTA>: She believes ... that returning to being a male will help heal the damaged relationships with her family.

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2012-10-30 09:27:34 AM
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2012-10-30 08:35:14 AM
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cman: Cythraul: To people out there thinking about getting a sex change, I really wish you'd spend a good year or two thinking this decision through. All you jerks out there who get the change and then want to change back make the rest of the transgender community look like psychos.

*sigh*

I love the transgendered folk to death, but there are many ethical issues that still need to be addressed. For instance, should we give drugs to children to stifle puberty? Should we allow children to have sex changes?

IMO, the child years are probably not the best to fark around with. When they become adults, that is fine, but children, its hard, lol. God I wish there was an easy answer to all of this.


For children? Definitely delay it, in my opinion. The developmental years from child into adult can be very hard on a person. A lot is going on physically and mentally at that time. It may be hard on the child who feels that their sex is all wrong, but I think it's best to err on the side of caution in situations like that, rather than allow a young teen to get a sex change and regret it later.

From what I understand, there is generally acceptable success in sex change operations these days when it comes to functionality and attractiveness of the changed sex organs. However, if one wants to go back to the way they were before, I'd imagine there would be little the doctors could do to make that reversal look pretty.
 
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