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(USGS)   Mitt Romney didn't want to kill off FEMA and the USGS, he just wanted to turn it over to the states or the private sector. Let's see how that works   (waterdata.usgs.gov) divider line 20
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2012-10-30 12:44:31 PM  
2 votes:

Civchic: zjoik: Lost Thought 00: As Rick Santorum so eloquently put it, there is no need for any government agencies to be collecting data you can find out with a Google search.

and where do you think those statistics derived from?

This is what blows my mind.

"Why do we pay someone to gather this precise scientific data? It's all on Google!"

Do people really think Google just magically whisks these things out of thin air?


Why do we still have farmers? Why don't they just buy their food at the store like everyone else?
2012-10-30 10:27:36 AM  
2 votes:
Look we all have to make tough choices - today it may be streamgages, tomorrow, wind energy or someone else's pet project. I don't like Fed rights anymore then you do, so we get what we have here on the USGS site. It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it, so he gets it. This $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.

Remember folks - this USGS underfunding came on Obama's watch - his administration can't even handle something a simple USGS budget. They probably even tried outsourcing it to China or Kenya.
2012-10-30 09:59:43 AM  
2 votes:
Whenever a politician wants something killed but has to be a pussy about it they "leave it up to the states".

Nice web design, btw. Is it 1997 already?
2012-10-30 08:28:55 PM  
1 votes:

b0geyman: The federal government is not disaster insurance. Why should the flyover states have to underwrite shiat that only happens to the coasts? If individual states and the inhabitants thereof want to be covered against disaster then they should raise taxes on their own residents and pay into an insurance pool.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


This. What libtards don't understand is that we are a farking republic, and the reasoning behind this is pretty simple, so that there is no consolidation of power. You make exceptions for one thing, you set precedent for the next. Look at the ridiculous amount of power Obama has given himself. The right to execute American citizens by drone strike? All of these czars? Sealing Fast and Furious documents from congress, continuing the Patriot Act etc, etc. Not saying that Bush and Clinton didn't do their own part but we need to at least give Romney a chance because at the very least he hasn't proven that he will trample all over the constitution to get what he wants like Obama has.
2012-10-30 06:02:16 PM  
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: And you don't even know what I look like.


Like it even matters at this point
2012-10-30 04:52:12 PM  
1 votes:

Di Atribe: b0geyman: The federal government is not disaster insurance. Why should the flyover states have to underwrite shiat that only happens to the coasts

Oh hey, what did I just say about short-sightedness? Great example. Thanks, bro!


Great job selectively editing my post where the correct solution to the problem resides, numbnuts.

If individual states and the inhabitants thereof want to be covered against disaster then they should raise taxes on their own residents and pay into an insurance pool.

NOT doing that and relying on the bankrupt federal government to print more money to bail them out is the short-sighted strategy.
2012-10-30 03:44:36 PM  
1 votes:
The federal government is not disaster insurance. Why should the flyover states have to underwrite shiat that only happens to the coasts? If individual states and the inhabitants thereof want to be covered against disaster then they should raise taxes on their own residents and pay into an insurance pool.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
2012-10-30 02:49:02 PM  
1 votes:
While we're at it, why not do the same thing to the armed forces? I mean, 50 Air Forces? That'd be neat, and it totally would be more efficient.
2012-10-30 01:24:13 PM  
1 votes:

peg_leg: Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.

They don't get paid $100/hour, they COST $100/hour. You have to include employment taxes, P&E, insurances, etc. to get the cost number.


Plus, there is the cost of hiring a manager to look over the web developer's shoulder and make useful comments like "it needs more green."
2012-10-30 12:25:40 PM  
1 votes:
Privatization works so well! That's why cell phone services are so cheap, insurance is so cheap and easy to use, utility costs are so affordable nobody goes without heat, water, and electricity. And if you get sick, medical and dental service rates are so competitive anyone can afford them!
2012-10-30 12:10:09 PM  
1 votes:
Meanwhile Obama and this natural disaster DOES use the States as first responder and shows that it CAN and DOES work.

FEMA should NEVER be first responder. FEMA should support the state, the state support the local and the lowest level is the first responder.

With New Orleans we had a state and city that didn't even enact their own emergency procedures, instead they sat around screaming for the Federal Government. With this one we see the state and local governments doing their jobs and it is working well.

So before you slam Romney, realize that what he's suggesting is exactly what's happening right now, and Obama seems to be supporting it.
2012-10-30 12:07:53 PM  
1 votes:

Elzar: Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.

Contractors for the USGS bill nearly double that amount regularly for their 'professional services' - one more reason the Federal government can never compete with the efficiency that is inherent in private enterprise. You are correct in that nearly every web developer in the private IT industry do not make anything even close to $100/hr


Because GM, AT&T, Comcast, Citibank, Chase, Goldman Sachs, et al are the pinnacles of customer service and efficiency.
2012-10-30 12:01:25 PM  
1 votes:
Ya, the feds are awesome at running stuff.
2012-10-30 11:59:03 AM  
1 votes:

Elzar: $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.


Private industry wouldn't touch it unless they can get the government to pay them $8000 with a 5 year maintenance agreement.
2012-10-30 11:56:38 AM  
1 votes:
having dealt with FEMA for the last three years I can tell you without a doubt it could be handled better by a private company.
2012-10-30 11:50:54 AM  
1 votes:
i225.photobucket.com
2012-10-30 11:36:52 AM  
1 votes:
"Sure this bag of 'Apocalypse Chow' was only $5 last week, but that was *before* the storm. Now it's $500. Oh, and the time I spent coming to you with my Private Rescue Sedan De Ville out there idling is billed at $25/minute from the second the engine started. Hey, you're the guy who called Paulie Walnuts' Perfectly Legitimate Concrete Rescue Company."
2012-10-30 10:36:39 AM  
1 votes:

Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.


The web developer makes $20/hour. The other $80/hour goes to some 1%er who knows nothing about web development.

As it should be.
2012-10-30 10:30:51 AM  
1 votes:

Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it


Yes, web developers make $100/hour.
2012-10-30 09:44:21 AM  
1 votes:
Mitt Romney is an ass of epic proportions.
 
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