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(USGS)   Mitt Romney didn't want to kill off FEMA and the USGS, he just wanted to turn it over to the states or the private sector. Let's see how that works   (waterdata.usgs.gov) divider line 115
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2012-10-30 09:44:21 AM  
Mitt Romney is an ass of epic proportions.
 
2012-10-30 09:51:13 AM  

bdub77: Mitt Romney is an ass of epic proportions.


In fairness, he has ALWAYS been an ass of epic proportions. He's just gotten bigger...
 
2012-10-30 09:53:14 AM  
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2012-10-30 09:59:43 AM  
Whenever a politician wants something killed but has to be a pussy about it they "leave it up to the states".

Nice web design, btw. Is it 1997 already?
 
2012-10-30 10:23:11 AM  

Freudian_slipknot: Pr


Damnit. That's what I get for trying to post from my phone.

Anyway, I was just going to say that it's clear private industry and local governments make everything better.

Now, if you'll excuse me I've got to go put another $40 in the Chicago parking meter downstairs so I can park there for another hour.
 
2012-10-30 10:27:36 AM  
Look we all have to make tough choices - today it may be streamgages, tomorrow, wind energy or someone else's pet project. I don't like Fed rights anymore then you do, so we get what we have here on the USGS site. It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it, so he gets it. This $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.

Remember folks - this USGS underfunding came on Obama's watch - his administration can't even handle something a simple USGS budget. They probably even tried outsourcing it to China or Kenya.
 
2012-10-30 10:30:51 AM  

Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it


Yes, web developers make $100/hour.
 
2012-10-30 10:35:35 AM  
Some states would do better than the feds, others worse.

If you have an Andrew Cuomo or a Chris Christie as your governor you're off to a decent start.

If you had Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin and an assortment of crooks and farkups who you blithely dismissed as "naw, they ain't corrupt, they're colorful"...well, that's on you and not on Washington.

So there are some places where the locals could pull it off, some places where the feds could do it, and a few where you might as well let Walmart run the show.
 
2012-10-30 10:36:39 AM  

Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.


The web developer makes $20/hour. The other $80/hour goes to some 1%er who knows nothing about web development.

As it should be.
 
2012-10-30 10:39:43 AM  

Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.


Contractors for the USGS bill nearly double that amount regularly for their 'professional services' - one more reason the Federal government can never compete with the efficiency that is inherent in private enterprise. You are correct in that nearly every web developer in the private IT industry do not make anything even close to $100/hr
 
2012-10-30 10:47:06 AM  

Elzar: You are correct in that nearly every web developer in the private IT industry do not make anything even close to $100/hr


Especially since all the programming jobs went overseas after the Bush tax cuts went to businesses that engaged in off shoring. Best thing that ever happened to my career, actually. Programming is farking boring and I'm doing FX for movies now, so I have Bush to thank for that. Of course, it took a while for all those companies to realize that Indians can't code for shiat and they sure as hell never document anything but that's not my problem.
 
2012-10-30 11:11:52 AM  

Mugato: Nice web design, btw. Is it 1997 already?


Budget cuts, man.
 
2012-10-30 11:28:05 AM  

bdub77: Mitt Romney is an ass of epic proportions.


I don't think he really understands the implications of his actions. he's lived such and isolated life that he can't 'connect the dots' anymore.
 
2012-10-30 11:35:11 AM  

Elzar: bill


Elzar: make


hmmm
 
2012-10-30 11:36:52 AM  
"Sure this bag of 'Apocalypse Chow' was only $5 last week, but that was *before* the storm. Now it's $500. Oh, and the time I spent coming to you with my Private Rescue Sedan De Ville out there idling is billed at $25/minute from the second the engine started. Hey, you're the guy who called Paulie Walnuts' Perfectly Legitimate Concrete Rescue Company."
 
2012-10-30 11:49:21 AM  
How can Mitt allow such an IMMORAL agency to continue??
 
2012-10-30 11:50:22 AM  
As Rick Santorum so eloquently put it, there is no need for any government agencies to be collecting data you can find out with a Google search.
 
2012-10-30 11:50:54 AM  
i225.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-30 11:52:11 AM  

Elzar: Look we all have to make tough choices - today it may be streamgages, tomorrow, wind energy or someone else's pet project. I don't like Fed rights anymore then you do, so we get what we have here on the USGS site. It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it, so he gets it. This $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.

Remember folks - this USGS underfunding came on Obama's watch - his administration can't even handle something a simple USGS budget. They probably even tried outsourcing it to China or Kenya.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-30 11:53:14 AM  
Mehh, even with a LOT of lipstick, it is still Divide and Conquer.

I am dissappoint, people. You are supposed to be able to recognize this chit when you see it.
Now, if we could just get the farking media to quit playing along.

Ya, know, with a decent media presence, we could clean this mess up.
 
2012-10-30 11:53:49 AM  
"You lack conviction." ~ Agent Phil Coulson
 
2012-10-30 11:53:49 AM  
I agree. I'm tired of fixing up coastal states that get hit by hurricanes year after year after year. Let them pay for it themselves. Don't like it? Move inland.

I don't actually believe this anymore. I used to, when I was 20 and when I was a Republican.

Ah, to be so young and ignorant again.
 
2012-10-30 11:56:38 AM  
having dealt with FEMA for the last three years I can tell you without a doubt it could be handled better by a private company.
 
2012-10-30 11:59:03 AM  

Elzar: $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.


Private industry wouldn't touch it unless they can get the government to pay them $8000 with a 5 year maintenance agreement.
 
2012-10-30 11:59:55 AM  

Elzar: Look we all have to make tough choices - today it may be streamgages, tomorrow, wind energy or someone else's pet project. I don't like Fed rights anymore then you do, so we get what we have here on the USGS site. It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it, so he gets it. This $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.

Remember folks - this USGS underfunding came on Obama's watch - his administration can't even handle something a simple USGS budget. They probably even tried outsourcing it to China or Kenya.


Shows just how little you understand about the importance of what the USGS does, let alone your inability to grasp why we monitor stream gages and why this cannot be handled at the state level. Goddamn, the American public is so scientifically and environmentally retarded!
 
2012-10-30 12:01:12 PM  

turtleking: having dealt with FEMA for the last three years I can tell you without a doubt it could be handled better by a private company.


Have you dealt with a private company that has a complete monopoly before?
 
2012-10-30 12:01:25 PM  
Ya, the feds are awesome at running stuff.
 
2012-10-30 12:01:36 PM  
I say let the states handle it.
 
2012-10-30 12:04:21 PM  
What's this? States over federal gov't running the show? It's about time this guy said something I agree with.
 
2012-10-30 12:06:49 PM  

turtleking: having dealt with FEMA for the last three years I can tell you without a doubt it could be handled better by a private company.


Having worked for FEMA (Mitigation Division) for about the same amount of time, I can say that your experience is not standard.

Would a private company buy your house, demolish it, and rebuild you a new one in a flood-safe area for little or no cost? Would they rehab your house to prepare or recover from disaster damage without relying on government assistance?
Would a private company put its best practices on the internet for all to read, including explaining how $5 roof straps can save tens of thousands in roof repair, or a $10 backflow valve keeps your basement from flooding?
Would a private company issue flood insurance? (This one, we can answer:) No, they got out of the game because they couldn't make a good enough profit on it. Fortunately for us, the Feds think FI is a good idea, and they don't mind taking a loss for a few years in some states.
Would a private company have created free flood maps of every part of the country to assess the flood risks of living at, say 1700 Main Street, Bumfarkville, MT (population: 70)?
Would a private company tell you exactly how to take advantage of the many many programs that provide cash or services - often at little or no cost - to people wishing to prepare for or recover from disaster damage?
Would a private company be able to provide food, shelter and water - free of charge - to potentially a million people? Without coming to the state government every few years?

I think you underestimate how much of business' "help" is seeded with government money (or tax breaks, which are essentially the same thing) or is provided by the government at far lower a cost than what the private sector would. The goal of government - especially as relates to disaster planning/recovery - is not to maximize revenue, it's to provide for its citizens.
 
2012-10-30 12:07:13 PM  

Elzar: 'warnings'


those warnings are written by scientists at the USGS.
 
2012-10-30 12:07:53 PM  

Elzar: Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.

Contractors for the USGS bill nearly double that amount regularly for their 'professional services' - one more reason the Federal government can never compete with the efficiency that is inherent in private enterprise. You are correct in that nearly every web developer in the private IT industry do not make anything even close to $100/hr


Because GM, AT&T, Comcast, Citibank, Chase, Goldman Sachs, et al are the pinnacles of customer service and efficiency.
 
2012-10-30 12:08:01 PM  
Can you imagine a broke-ass place like NOLA trying to get back on its feet without federal help? Does Mitt Romney....understand things?
 
2012-10-30 12:08:23 PM  
Haliburton needs to diversify since the proles aren't buying the warmongering bit at the moment. Private companies!

/$30 bucks a plate for Iraq chow hall food. farking profiteers
 
2012-10-30 12:10:09 PM  
Meanwhile Obama and this natural disaster DOES use the States as first responder and shows that it CAN and DOES work.

FEMA should NEVER be first responder. FEMA should support the state, the state support the local and the lowest level is the first responder.

With New Orleans we had a state and city that didn't even enact their own emergency procedures, instead they sat around screaming for the Federal Government. With this one we see the state and local governments doing their jobs and it is working well.

So before you slam Romney, realize that what he's suggesting is exactly what's happening right now, and Obama seems to be supporting it.
 
2012-10-30 12:11:57 PM  

Elzar: Contractors for the USGS bill nearly double that amount regularly for their 'professional services' -


Oh look. Ignorant lying Republican scum. You don't know how much the make, and you know they make too much.

Why to make up reality out of thin air in your mind, in order to justify the other made-up beliefs in your mind.
 
2012-10-30 12:12:15 PM  

lovegravy: realize that what he's suggesting is exactly what's happening right now,


Actually it's not.
 
2012-10-30 12:13:03 PM  

hubiestubert: bdub77: Mitt Romney is an ass of epic proportions.

In fairness, he has ALWAYS been an ass of epic proportions. He's just gotten bigger...


Nah, his face has only gotten smaller.

boingboing.net
 
2012-10-30 12:13:19 PM  
Keep slurpin and derpin!
 
2012-10-30 12:14:10 PM  
love all the 'discontinued because of lack of funding' all over that link.
 
2012-10-30 12:15:17 PM  
Republican belief: Why do we even need the National Weather Service? We can get this information from things like the Weather Channel!

Reality: The weather channel gets their data from the National Weather Service.
 
2012-10-30 12:17:16 PM  
Did obama find a UTube video to blame the wind, heavy rainfall and hurricane like weather (possibly a hurricane, still investigating, he'll know something after the election) on?
 
2012-10-30 12:18:16 PM  

Lost Thought 00: As Rick Santorum so eloquently put it, there is no need for any government agencies to be collecting data you can find out with a Google search.


and where do you think those statistics derived from?
 
2012-10-30 12:21:57 PM  
[facepalm]

Don't fark with the U.S. Geological Survey. If there's anything the Feds do that has endless multipliers though the economy, it's the USGS.
 
2012-10-30 12:22:55 PM  

Elzar: Look we all have to make tough choices - today it may be streamgages, tomorrow, wind energy or someone else's pet project. I don't like Fed rights anymore then you do, so we get what we have here on the USGS site. It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it, so he gets it. This $4000 could have been spent more prudently on upgrading these streamgages - something the private sector would be all over.

Remember folks - this USGS underfunding came on Obama's watch - his administration can't even handle something a simple USGS budget. They probably even tried outsourcing it to China or Kenya.


Cool Hand Luke type parody detected
 
2012-10-30 12:23:54 PM  
Don't most states have a form of FEMA? I remember when Clinton appointed James Witt to head FEMA after he had reorganized Arkansas Office of Emergency Services. You know when FEMA had a great reputation before the horse trainer got put in charge.
 
2012-10-30 12:24:36 PM  

Mugato: Elzar: It probably cost $100/hr for some USGS web developer to spend 40 hours of dev time writing those 'warnings' - which is the way Obama wants it

Yes, web developers make $100/hour.


They don't get paid $100/hour, they COST $100/hour. You have to include employment taxes, P&E, insurances, etc. to get the cost number.
 
2012-10-30 12:25:11 PM  

Detinwolf: Can you imagine a broke-ass place like NOLA trying to get back on its feet without federal help? Does Mitt Romney....understand things?


Do you? FEMA is broke at the national level so how does that help? And even when it wasnt broke it was pretty incompetant and paralyzed at times by national level politics.

I dont know if privatization or making it a state level thing with federal funding assistance would make it work well or not (and tend to assume it will not) but it isn't doing well as a national one.

Romney wasn't necessarily wrong about breaking up FEMA but with a crisis looming people don't want nuance, they want yes or no.
 
2012-10-30 12:25:40 PM  
Privatization works so well! That's why cell phone services are so cheap, insurance is so cheap and easy to use, utility costs are so affordable nobody goes without heat, water, and electricity. And if you get sick, medical and dental service rates are so competitive anyone can afford them!
 
2012-10-30 12:31:38 PM  

zjoik: Lost Thought 00: As Rick Santorum so eloquently put it, there is no need for any government agencies to be collecting data you can find out with a Google search.

and where do you think those statistics derived from?


This is what blows my mind.

"Why do we pay someone to gather this precise scientific data? It's all on Google!"

Do people really think Google just magically whisks these things out of thin air?
 
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