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(ABC) NewsFlash The worst case scenario has occurred: NYU Medical Center has lost all power and oxygen supplies. Hundreds of people, including newborns and children, are being evacuated   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 832
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2012-10-30 08:30:00 AM

styckx: *facepalm*

[i.imgur.com image 525x318]


No, not facepalm. Twitter doesn't usurp other means of contacting emergency service.
Consider that there are multiple calls and emergency services need to be sent to highest priority cases.
If somebody has called 911, and gotten into the queue, they don't get to jump the queue just because some twat spews a tweet.
 
2012-10-30 08:30:23 AM

orbister: erik-k: If there's one thing I learned watching that show, it's that apparently practically everything destroys concrete on 50-100 year timescales. Plants, water, salt, windblown sand, lichen, alternating heat/cold, you name it - it attacks reinforced concrete.

The Pantheon dome in Rome is (a) made of concrete and (b) 1,887 years old.


The ancient Romans had a different mix for concrete.
 
2012-10-30 08:34:49 AM

styckx: And the sky is brightening up.. I'm scared to see what the Jersey/NY coastline looks like.


Maybe 1% as bad as this?

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-10-30 08:35:16 AM

J Noble Daggett: styckx: *facepalm*

[i.imgur.com image 525x318]

No, not facepalm. Twitter doesn't usurp other means of contacting emergency service.
Consider that there are multiple calls and emergency services need to be sent to highest priority cases.
If somebody has called 911, and gotten into the queue, they don't get to jump the queue just because some twat spews a tweet.


I actually believe they requested that people use the Twitter account for calls for non life threatening help due to getting 20,000 911 calls an hour
 
2012-10-30 08:45:34 AM

dr_blasto: orbister: erik-k: If there's one thing I learned watching that show, it's that apparently practically everything destroys concrete on 50-100 year timescales. Plants, water, salt, windblown sand, lichen, alternating heat/cold, you name it - it attacks reinforced concrete.

The Pantheon dome in Rome is (a) made of concrete and (b) 1,887 years old.

The ancient Romans had a different mix for concrete.


I believe they used a 6 sack with a 4" slump from Regulus' Redi-Mix.
 
2012-10-30 08:53:47 AM

cuzsis: Somacandra: BronyMedic: Considering NYU is a level IV surgical NICU, and those babies are completely dependant on specialized, very large machines to keep them both warm and alive, yeah. It's a big freakin' deal. The cold alone can kill a medically fragile baby very quickly.

Couldn't have said it better. These are the most vulnerable of the most vulnerable in place that was especially designed for them. This is in fact a really really big deal.

Curious...

with the impending storm coming (and storm surge) could they not be moved to another facility ahead of time that was less likely to go on the blink?

/not snarking


Whoa! Hey there! Those are PAYING patients. We don't move those unless we have to.
 
2012-10-30 09:01:37 AM

Marisyana: I was reading about the NYU Hospital evacuation on CNN's website when this little tidbit jumped out at me (bolding mine):

NYU didn't anticipate such heavy flooding from Sandy, the superstorm that hit Monday, and chose not to evacuate all its patients before the storm, as they did with Hurricane Irene a year ago.

Read that again.

NYU didn't anticipate such heavy flooding from Sandy, the superstorm that hit Monday, and chose not to evacuate all its patients before the storm, as they did with Hurricane Irene a year ago.

For the past week all we've been hearing about was how bad this storm was going to be and how NYC was in the direct path of it, and yet apparently NYU was like "nah, it won't be nearly as bad as Irene."

So all of you sniffling about the poor little sick babies having to be evacuated in the dark? THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE WEEKEND. WITH WORKING VENTILATORS AND LIGHTS. Farking idiots, seriously.

And someone on my Facebook wrote that this was worse than Katrina. I'm going to have a massive lump on my head from the major :headdesk: I just did.


They didn't evacuate them because they didn't want to lose the approximately two hundred dollars per hour per patient that those poor souls bring in.

Seriously.

/in the medical industry
//it is hopelessly corrupt and cynical
 
2012-10-30 09:10:40 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say they did not actually expect the flooding to be that bad.

Wow.
 
2012-10-30 09:18:18 AM

L.D. Ablo: [radarimg.weatherbug.com image 448x336]

In case anyone is wondering, things are fine here in Yuma, Arizona.

Winds are about 6MPH out of the west and it's a slightly chilly 61 degrees F.

/the rest of you, stay safe, dry and warm


Fine?! There's a giant blue penis over Arizona!
 
2012-10-30 09:25:58 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Gyrfalcon: Man, I would not be a dispatcher in NY for a billion dollars right now.


My mom was a police and fire dispatcher for about 15 years. Even on a "calm" night, you couldn't pay me enough to do that job. She actually had a stroke on the job and had to retire on disability. I cannot imagine what the dispatchers in NYC and surrounding areas have dealt with tonight, not to mention of course the exhausted people they're sending out to deal with this shiat.


My condolences. One of our co-workers in our Emergency Room just had a stoke on the job. He was also a very active Union organizer. That's my new fear, that my farking jobs stress is going to cripple me.
 
2012-10-30 09:29:38 AM

WhyteRaven74: Bathia_Mapes: F*ck! Those some scary looking power lines.

no shiat, according to the tweet it was posted in, they're on fire.

saintstryfe: but I'm 100% sure they have emergency power simply for that.

battery back ups most likely

No flights in or out.

I know about that, just given their locations was wondering if there were any reports of how much water is on the runways and such. Also there's gonna be a lot of planes sitting there, their wheels were never meant to take day long baths in sea water either.

ccording to CBS New York: gas fumes in the Holland Tunnel.

Well of course there are. I'm waiting to find out there's a ship cruising through the Lower East Side at this point.

shower_in_my_socks: I'm sorry to tell you this, but they're both dead.

you magnificent bastard


Not so much cruising, but there is a 700 ton tanker beached on Staten Island.
 
2012-10-30 09:33:52 AM

wambu: When you don't plan for the worst, the worst happens.

 
2012-10-30 09:37:27 AM
NewsFlash The worst case scenario has occurred: NYU Medical Center has lost all power and oxygen supplies.
The storm knocked out air pressure? O.o How exactly does that work?
 
2012-10-30 09:42:31 AM

OnlyM3: NewsFlash The worst case scenario has occurred: NYU Medical Center has lost all power and oxygen supplies. The storm knocked out air pressure? O.o How exactly does that work?


Oxygen is provided in piping throughout the building, and yes it needs power to operate.
 
2012-10-30 10:06:24 AM
Watching the video on the Today Show, which I don't usually watch, makes me happy my biggest personal concern right now is that my daughter (who's now playing happily in the floor) has a mild case of strep throat. Good wishes for those of you who have to dig out from under this. You'll get it done, have confidence and patience.
 
2012-10-30 10:10:23 AM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Could we as a country as least take away the lesson that major population centers SHOULD get priority emergency management funding over corn-based states? This is coming from a guy who LIVES in a corn-based state. If a bomb went off in rural southern Indiana, the world would be out a bomb.

/Stay safe Northeastern folks


Indiana is "even", it gives as much as it takes from the Federal Government.

Did you see Morning Joe this morning? Indiana sent 24 fully staffed ambulances to NY/NJ paid for by the State of Indiana's disaster fund.... MANY of the patients evacuated last light were by Indiana-based crews. Indiana also sent its Task Force 1 Emergency Rescuers and Responders and staged in Ohio awaiting word from FEMA on where to deploy with equipment. Governor Chrisy thanked Governor Daniels this morning and said the crew had literally saved a number lives over night with water rescues.

Proud to be a Hoosier when I hear things like that. Sure, we have a host of backwoods hicks and inner city slackers like any state - but for the most part, our state economy is solid, we help fellow Americans and are contributors to this great United States.

Link
 
2012-10-30 10:20:58 AM

Purdue_Pete: Sure, we have a host of backwoods hicks and inner city slackers like any state - but for the most part, our state economy is solid, we help fellow Americans and are contributors to this great United States.


You've also given us the Boilermakers, with one of the best logos in college basketball.
 
2012-10-30 10:36:21 AM

Pray 4 Mojo: Curious to know where you work... 'cause I'm thinking we share a common circle.

Curious... but not expecting you to tell me. 'Cause... of course... I wouldn't tell either.

/Superintendent


I work for one of the firms that designs WinCo Foods stores. That's good enough.

DingleberryMoose: Let a country boy help you city folks out a bit:
[www.equipco.com.au image 850x933]


Yeah, this country boy knows all about them. That's why we don't use them. You can't store 15,000 gallons in something like that. You can't prevent thieves from tapping into that. You can't prevent punks from shooting holes in it. You can't prevent some random dumbass woman driver from crashing into that.

That still doesn't do a damned thing about the pumps. I'm sure that's what failed. Not the fuel, the pumps.
 
2012-10-30 10:47:07 AM

Smeggy Smurf: DingleberryMoose: Let a country boy help you city folks out a bit:
[www.equipco.com.au image 850x933]

Yeah, this country boy knows all about them. That's why we don't use them. You can't store 15,000 gallons in something like that. You can't prevent thieves from tapping into that. You can't prevent punks from shooting holes in it. You can't prevent some random dumbass woman driver from crashing into that.

That still doesn't do a damned thing about the pumps. I'm sure that's what failed. Not the fuel, the pumps


Apparently you don't share my sense of humor. I figured everyone would immediately see that as untenable and get the joke. Sorry.
 
2012-10-30 11:22:36 AM
No need to apologize. It's not like you laughed at my horse or some other terrible sin.
 
2012-10-30 11:42:03 AM

WhyteRaven74: [i.imgur.com image 717x960]

The trains aren't gonna be running for a while.....


Good opportunity to clean off the tracks though... Look at all that floating trash. Just grab a skimmer and get to work. :)
 
2012-10-30 12:00:58 PM

Purdue_Pete: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Could we as a country as least take away the lesson that major population centers SHOULD get priority emergency management funding over corn-based states? This is coming from a guy who LIVES in a corn-based state. If a bomb went off in rural southern Indiana, the world would be out a bomb.

/Stay safe Northeastern folks

Indiana is "even", it gives as much as it takes from the Federal Government.

Did you see Morning Joe this morning? Indiana sent 24 fully staffed ambulances to NY/NJ paid for by the State of Indiana's disaster fund.... MANY of the patients evacuated last light were by Indiana-based crews. Indiana also sent its Task Force 1 Emergency Rescuers and Responders and staged in Ohio awaiting word from FEMA on where to deploy with equipment. Governor Chrisy thanked Governor Daniels this morning and said the crew had literally saved a number lives over night with water rescues.

Proud to be a Hoosier when I hear things like that. Sure, we have a host of backwoods hicks and inner city slackers like any state - but for the most part, our state economy is solid, we help fellow Americans and are contributors to this great United States.

Link


I knew we sent some help, but I wasn't aware of the magnitude. Thanks for the link.
 
2012-10-30 01:06:32 PM

BronyMedic: LIVE FEED OF FDNY FIRE COMMUNICATIONS FROM QUEENS, INCLUDING EVACUATION

Click here to listen.

Bad, bad shiat is going down in New York, folks.


Well, as long as Godzilla doesn't show up again. Even watching the video footage of that sucked.
 
2012-10-30 02:11:23 PM

JSam21: Lachwen: Did they just say TWENTY-FIVE fire victims in one spot?

Flatbush is "ok"


Boyfriend is awake, back in communication and safe. Thank you again for keeping an eye on Brooklyn for me.
 
2012-10-30 03:11:10 PM
I saw lots of people assuming the generators were in the basement. According to this article they actually were on the roof but still got waterlogged:

CNN
 
2012-10-30 04:13:33 PM

mindflayer: According to this article they actually were on the roof but still got waterlogged:


Probably poor design that did not anticipate the conditions that the storm presented. Hopefully, they will learn from their mistake.
 
2012-10-30 05:14:48 PM

thelordofcheese: BronyMedic: LIVE FEED OF FDNY FIRE COMMUNICATIONS FROM QUEENS, INCLUDING EVACUATION

Click here to listen.

Bad, bad shiat is going down in New York, folks.

Well, as long as Godzilla doesn't show up again. Even watching the video footage of that sucked.


To be fair, every Godzilla movie sucked. Especially American Godzilla.
 
2012-10-30 06:13:35 PM

wickedragon: holy fark this thread is like 50% arguments over semantics!
What the hell is wrong with you people?!


That would be the Aspergers
 
2012-10-30 09:49:15 PM

DingleberryMoose: Let a country boy help you city folks out a bit:


I have a 250 gallon tank in my basement. Went to natural gas furnace years ago. I'll gladly donate mine to someone in the city.
 
2012-10-30 10:06:06 PM
Wow NY/NJ gets that farked up over a cat 1? ya'll are making Florida look smart
 
2012-10-31 09:30:09 PM

Oldiron_79: Wow NY/NJ gets that farked up over a cat 1? ya'll are making Florida look smart


Well there isn't much to lose when a hurricane hit's a trailer court, swamp, or empty parking lot.
There are more people working in some individual buildings in NYC, than work in entire towns in Florida.
 
2012-11-02 05:10:59 AM

dr_blasto: Alternatively, how would you refill roof-mounted [generator] fuel tanks? Helicopter? Seems that would be really expensive.


The delivery trucks have fuel pumps and hoses.
 
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