Superstorm Sandy puts NJ's Oyster Creek nuclear power plant on alert; NY's Indian Point plant shut down

NY morning news just reported an "unusual-event" at the nuclear power plant.

Holy shiat.

DrPainMD: quickdraw: Folks dont let the trolls derail the real issues here. Just put them on ignore and move on.

Subby you are right this is ghastly.

Meh. It's a walk in the park compared to Katrina, Ivan, Camille, and some of the other real strong hurricanes that have hit the gulf coast.

Well, respectfully, while it's not a strong hurricane, this one is in an area that doesn't take many of them, only had a short time to prepare, and is in a place with much, much higher population density.

canwolfshadow: Valium laced coffee.

*Hands you my cup*

Coelacanth: Crazy Hurricane Jet Skier in Manasquan New Jersey - Hurricane Sandy Jetski. Link


Wow.. What a retard.. That water isn't all that deep..

Max Awesome: Superstorm Sandy puts NJ's Oyster Creek nuclear power plant on alert; NY's Indian Point plant shut down

NY morning news just reported an "unusual-event" at the nuclear power plant.

Holy shiat.

Well, reading the article it doesn't sound very scary or worrying. THe plant in question, Oyster Creek, was down for regular maintenance anyway so it's not a direct threat. Generators are good for two weeks.

themeaningoflifeisnot: Gyrfalcon: themeaningoflifeisnot: All of the dispatchers and various chiefs have been very calm during the whole night. No emotion or stress showing through at all.

Dude, that's what they get paid for.

(It's also why BronyMedic seems so irascible sometimes--the stress has to come out somewhere)

I know that's what they get paid for. But having a couple friends who are dispatchers, some do it better than others.

As usual, you can assume that New York has the best of any thing in a particular field.

shower_in_my_socks: WhyteRaven74: There any info on the condition of LaGuardia or JFK


I'm sorry to tell you this, but they're both dead.

NIIIIIIIIIIICE.lol

Gyrfalcon: themeaningoflifeisnot: All of the dispatchers and various chiefs have been very calm during the whole night. No emotion or stress showing through at all.

Dude, that's what they get paid for.

(It's also why BronyMedic seems so irascible sometimes--the stress has to come out somewhere)

I remeber having to get a medic buddy of mine roaring stinking drunk one night after a particularly terrible day at work. He had attended a car crash where a little girl had died while they were trying to save her. Dispatching can be worse... having to listen to it over the phone while being unable to help has to be a horrible feeling.

/every day heroes.

Wow.. I went on twitter for two seconds and immediately saw someone post a picture of a "shark in NYC"... The same fake picture I saw 12hrs ago of a shark in New Jersey.. smh

CBS New York reports that the Hoboken, NJ PATH station is flooded.

Gyrfalcon: No_Good_Name: davidphogan: No_Good_Name: I'm not in NOLA. That frustrates me more. I survived Ike. And we did little to learn from Katrina. I would have hoped that others would have learned a bit more than we did.

So hospitals in NYC should have immediately spent every possible cent they could because of something that happened in Texas?

No, but at least evaluated their needs. Look, I know I'm armchair quarterbacking. I just wish more could be done. I hate the thought of anyone having to go through this. And knowing the years of recovery it takes. Sorry, I'm soft like that.

They may have. And been in the process of implementing changes based on what happened after Katrina. And Ike. And 9/11. And the Northridge Quake in Los Angeles that knocked out something like seven hospitals in less time than this hurricane. The problem is even if the money is available immediately--which it isn't--and even if the changes can be assessed instantaneously--which they can't--they certainly can't be implemented overnight, or even in a span of months or years. Just doing something "simple" like moving the backup generators from the basement to the top floor, for instance, requires a massive amount of renovation, rebuilding, reinforcing, and rewiring. It costs a lot of money and requires all kinds of moving other departments around the hospital.

I understand the frustration and it seems like nothing has been done. But obviously a great deal has been done, because they had the plans and resources available to move 200 patients in MICU ambulances to alternate hospitals when needed. It's not something that can easily be done either and takes an incredible amount of logistics--more than the lay person would realize. If they did it without anyone dying, then it was more impressive, imo, than having a backup generator that didn't fail.

Having helped evacuate the new mothers, still pregnant and those in labor, I know what a feat it is. I know I'm over reacting out of emotion. When you are in the trenches it feels like nothing is being done to help. I a, sure they had a good deal of emergency preparedness. Im impressed they are doing so well. I reacted to a hot button for me. And I don't apologize for it. I recognize it for what it is.

saintstryfe: DrPainMD: quickdraw: Folks dont let the trolls derail the real issues here. Just put them on ignore and move on.

Subby you are right this is ghastly.

Meh. It's a walk in the park compared to Katrina, Ivan, Camille, and some of the other real strong hurricanes that have hit the gulf coast.

Well, respectfully, while it's not a strong hurricane, this one is in an area that doesn't take many of them, only had a short time to prepare, and is in a place with much, much higher population density.

Also, while the Hurricane was only Category 1, the SSH scale for Hurricanes only measure sustained windspeeds. While high winds certainly are a problem, the issue here was storm surge - which was forecasted to be a 5.7 on a 6 point scale by the NOAA (scroll to just after the imbedded video for that info) - and the placement (click the "storm surge probability" box on the right) of said storm surge.

Gyrfalcon: themeaningoflifeisnot: All of the dispatchers and various chiefs have been very calm during the whole night. No emotion or stress showing through at all.

Dude, that's what they get paid for.

(It's also why BronyMedic seems so irascible sometimes--the stress has to come out somewhere)

Yes... While its what they get paid for they are still human.

saintstryfe: themeaningoflifeisnot: Gyrfalcon: themeaningoflifeisnot: All of the dispatchers and various chiefs have been very calm during the whole night. No emotion or stress showing through at all.

Dude, that's what they get paid for.

(It's also why BronyMedic seems so irascible sometimes--the stress has to come out somewhere)

I know that's what they get paid for. But having a couple friends who are dispatchers, some do it better than others.

As usual, you can assume that New York has the best of any thing in a particular field.

not making moonshine ::-)
/why yes..i thik i wil take another sip

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saintstryfe:
Well, reading the article it doesn't sound very scary or worrying. THe plant in question, Oyster Creek, was down for regular maintenance anyway so it's not a direct threat. Generators are good for two weeks.

Hopefully. As long as they don't get knocked-out by water like the ones at the hospital did.

Here's a helpful page that debunks all the various "OMGShark in my Backyard!" photos.

themeaningoflifeisnot: saintstryfe:
As usual, you can assume that New York has the best of any thing in a particular field.

I can guarantee they look to Buffalo for expertise in one area: snow removal. ;-)

If it doesn't involve Fried Chicken Wings I don't look to Buffalo for ANYTHING.

/sorry, i really hate the Sabres.
//another joke: Hurricane Sandy has locked out the bridges, subways, tunnels and mass transit. Hurricane Sandy's last name is Bettman.

tinfoil-hat maggie: saintstryfe: DrPainMD: quickdraw: Folks dont let the trolls derail the real issues here. Just put them on ignore and move on.

Subby you are right this is ghastly.

Meh. It's a walk in the park compared to Katrina, Ivan, Camille, and some of the other real strong hurricanes that have hit the gulf coast.

Well, respectfully, while it's not a strong hurricane, this one is in an area that doesn't take many of them, only had a short time to prepare, and is in a place with much, much higher population density.

Well, while it was only a cat1 it was a big storm, and they don't generally come in at high tide. I'm really afraid of what's gonna be revealed in daylight remember Katrina nobody new till the next day how bad everything east of the storms center was hit, and this isn't over really.

The storm surge was that of massive hurricane... No ones ever seen shiat like this before in the Northeast..

From the FDNY Dispatch radio, sounds like there's a lot of debris. Trucks keep getting blocked by things blocking the roads.

saintstryfe: CBS New York reports that the Hoboken, NJ PATH station is flooded.

Given the picture that came out about 10 hours ago, no surprise.

Coelacanth: Recruiting Animal @animal
#Sandy - a woman died in Toronto when a Staples sign was blown down and hit her - that's too bad. I feel sorry for her family

This is too EASY

Max Awesome: saintstryfe:
Well, reading the article it doesn't sound very scary or worrying. THe plant in question, Oyster Creek, was down for regular maintenance anyway so it's not a direct threat. Generators are good for two weeks.

Hopefully. As long as they don't get knocked-out by water like the ones at the hospital did.

Here's a helpful page that debunks all the various "OMGShark in my Backyard!" photos.

So sad that even had to be created..

mr lawson: Coelacanth: Recruiting Animal @animal
#Sandy - a woman died in Toronto when a Staples sign was blown down and hit her - that's too bad. I feel sorry for her family

This is too EASY

Oof

Howdy

I work in a hospital lab. I've had to work through power outages before and it's always really spooky; the whole lab goes pitch black for a few seconds before the generators kick in, and when they do, not everything is on the backup generators; our analysers are, one or two computers are, and only one phone works. The only lighting is from a tiny light above the biosafety cabinet. Other than that, there's a flashlight up at the front bench.

It was scary to be working in almost near darkness, hoping that my flashlight wouldn't give out and that the generators wouldn't give out, and wondering whether I could sleep at work or have to walk home through the snowstorm after my shift ended.

Anyhoo. Just sharing. Reading this article is like a punch in the gut because I can imagine the chaos and anxiety. Especially with 45 critical care patients; those people are most likely hooked up to ventilators to help them breathe, hooked up to machines to moniter their hearts, they are having their blood tested every couple of hours to moniter how they are doing, hooked up to IVs to hydrate and medicate them...without access to these services, a lot of those people are farked. I wouldn't be surprised if someone dies because of the interruption of the continuity of care.

And on top of the chaos and anxiety and people maybe dying, the nurses and emergency personell and everyone are probably working in almost complete darkness. Hope everyone has a flashlight. After my first hospital blackout I've kept a small one on my keychain ever since.

Scary stuff on the east coast. Stay safe everyone.

/has to finish the post with a "stay safe" message.
//it's protocol.

The trains aren't gonna be running for a while.....

styckx: So sad that even had to be created..

the shark pic that showed up yesterday is listed as unverified, and it could well be real, small shark, near the ocean in an area where there are sharks in the water.

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#F5Data knocked offline due to #Sandy with Web servers in NJ. Center was on generators but connections out were failing on the east coast.

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WhyteRaven74: [i.imgur.com image 717x960]

The trains aren't gonna be running for a while.....

tinfoil-hat maggie: WhyteRaven74: [i.imgur.com image 717x960]

The trains aren't gonna be running for a while.....

That does not look good.

And you have to wonder.. Even if they are re-opened and give the "all clear"... You have to wonder the scale of guessing they are using. I can't imagine they can inspect every inch of track in the area (which needs to be done) before reopening all these lines.

If I was a New Yorker who had to use mass transit daily I'd be wearing diapers for at least a week.

No worries. These are smart people in New Jersey and such, not like the dumbasses in FL, TX, and LA. Nothing will go wrong. The North East Coast has voted in all the aid and help they will ever need.

WhyteRaven74: [i.imgur.com image 717x960]

The trains aren't gonna be running for a while.....

Looks like a garbage dump threw up on the tracks. Or is it always like that in New York?

ABC New York reporting that evacuation is going slower then expected. Most serious patients have been moved but transportation challenges are holding up less serious ones. Only about half done.

They're getting people down the stairs (no elevators) using a mountain-rescue-style sled, slowly sliding them down the stairs.

Med Students are assisting.

Flooding in basement affected the generator which was on a higher level.

No one has died as a result of these moves (so far).