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2012-10-29 11:42:56 PM

Cluckity: Waterfalls at WTC construction site.

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Don't chase em.
 
2012-10-29 11:43:00 PM
Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.
 
2012-10-29 11:43:03 PM

Perditax: adambuck: Not to take anything from Sandy, but the storm doesn't seem to be turning north. It seems like it's aimed at the midwest now and with a front coming from the west, what does that mean for those in the midwest?Link

Oh my. I'm pretty sure it means those of us in the Midwest say "eep?!"

/St. Louis
//Midwest, USA


It means we're going to get rained on and get wind.

It's a part of the bargain you make for being alive and living on a planet with an atmosphere.
 
2012-10-29 11:43:05 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: skullkrusher: Atypical Person Reading Fark: skullkrusher: epoc_tnac: majestic: Not to downplay anyone's personal situation, but this is the weakest "perfect storm" I've ever seen. And I hope it stays that way.

Really? This storm has exceeded the expectations of the media, and they were hoping for the worst.

So, really?

The rain has been far less than anticipated in NYC. The storm surges from the wind are what is farking everything up.

Anticipation means nothing. It was always the surges that were predicted to be the troublemakers - and that's not over. The southern shores of some Great Lakes will also have damaged housing. I don't know about you, but being homeless is not my cuppa.

there is a farkload of damage, no diggity. My lights haven't even flickered, thank God. Just windy as shiat. River staying where it belongs as far as I can tell.

I'm glad for you. Even just having to worry about it is a drag. But actually having your roof crack (as several farkers report) or water come through the seams of your windows (even more have reported that) is a bummer. To actually have your house 1 or more feet in water sucks really badly.

It happens here near the beach every once in awhile (although mostly people got smart after some big storms in the 70's and no longer build right on the ocean - Malibu excepted). In Hawaii, lots of stilts and pilings, and still damage every year. But we're talking only a few people.

Sandy is affecting so many people, it's amazing.

My sympathies and good will to the farkers with smashed cars and I hope nothing worse happens.


last I heard most of Manhattan south of 40th street was without power. My mom and sister on LI have been out for most of the night with transformers blowing up all over the place, trees falling, etc. I have friends in Brooklyn and Hoboken hoping their cars don't float away. This is gonna be a helluva mess to clean up in the coming weeks
 
2012-10-29 11:43:43 PM
i.imwx.com

I don't think that plywood is helping much tonight
 
2012-10-29 11:43:49 PM
It is too bad that the people in Manhattan don't usually have guns if they are honest. There are going to be a few scary nights when the looting starts.
 
2012-10-29 11:43:57 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: epoc_tnac: majestic: Not to downplay anyone's personal situation, but this is the weakest "perfect storm" I've ever seen. And I hope it stays that way.

Really? This storm has exceeded the expectations of the media, and they were hoping for the worst.

So, really?

I agree. The total cost of all this is phenomenal - and at a time when no one can afford it. The only reason it's not way worse in terms of human life is all the money already spent on infrastructure getting ready for such things.

Be interesting to see how a strapped economy is going to deal with cleaning up after this. Even if only a 500 mile swath experiences outages, debris, fires, dead cars, flooded housing, that's a helluva lot of insurance claims.


Mmm hm. And then next year when it happens again. And twice the year after.. I blame Al Gore.
 
2012-10-29 11:45:02 PM
 
2012-10-29 11:45:37 PM

skullkrusher: I loved him with Rosanna Scotto in the AM because you could tell they got along really well but he'd fark with her in a brother-sister sort of way. He just hates the people he works with now it seems but it's a career jump I suppose. They paired him up with Ernie Anastos earlier to lend some maturity and experience to the broadcast while the woman took a break I suppose but they just wound up taking turns sodomizing a hen for 35 minutes


Ugh he's such a brainless little douchebag. Now that I know who his dad is, it all makes sense.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:10 PM

Cluckity: BIG BIG NEWS!!

Link to critical tweet of the night


That's funny shiat.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:15 PM

zzottt: Something weird is going on!

All the internet trolls are missing!!! 



to soon?


I'm here. Just waiting foe Lena Dunham to tweet something idiotic, then I'll pounce like the fat old guy in front of a PC that I am.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:29 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: ariseatex: Going from "hurricane" to "post-tropical cyclone" is NOT a downgrade. It's the change between a storm having a warm core (hurricane) to a cold core (similar to most mid-latitude storms). The energy that was there as a hurricane is still there.

Okay. The transition from category 1 hurricane to tropical storm is widely and generally referred to as a "downgrade". For you we will refer to it as a descending classification shift. Going up one category in storm strength is referred to as an upgrade.


*facepalm*

Sorry, Tropical Storm =/= Tropical Cyclone. Tropical Cyclone refers to the general category of warm-core low pressure centers that are borne out of tropical oceanic conditions. Hurricanes, Tropical Storms, Tropical Depressions, Typhoons, they're ALL tropical cyclones. Tropical storm is a downgrade from Hurricane, but a post-tropical cyclone can still have hurricane-strength winds.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:31 PM
I'm betting that I'll still have to shag my ass to work because god forbid there be a day people cannot buy hair dye
 
2012-10-29 11:46:35 PM

IronTom: It is too bad that the people in Manhattan don't usually have guns if they are honest. There are going to be a few scary nights when the looting starts.


Looting? In lower manhattan?

Yeah, good luck with that.
 
mjg
2012-10-29 11:47:19 PM
I do understand how the Hurricanes are named but it must suck when your name is chosen.
(A friend of mine is named Sandy)

Here are some names I'd like for a Hurricane:
- Kardashian
- Hitler
- Godwin

/please add ...
 
2012-10-29 11:47:38 PM

Lollipop165: skullkrusher: I loved him with Rosanna Scotto in the AM because you could tell they got along really well but he'd fark with her in a brother-sister sort of way. He just hates the people he works with now it seems but it's a career jump I suppose. They paired him up with Ernie Anastos earlier to lend some maturity and experience to the broadcast while the woman took a break I suppose but they just wound up taking turns sodomizing a hen for 35 minutes

Ugh he's such a brainless little douchebag. Now that I know who his dad is, it all makes sense.


hehe so much fun to watch though. I love when he makes it on the Soup
 
2012-10-29 11:48:32 PM

sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.


Then of course you'll be willing to pay your fair share of it, in insurance premium increases, etc?
 
2012-10-29 11:48:44 PM

sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.



I live in Cali and like to laugh at East Coasters when they get hit with a "scary" 5.0 earthquake. HOWEVER, a 5.8 near Washington DC is different than one here in SoCal because their buildings aren't built to handle earthquakes. The same goes for tropical storms hitting non-tropical areas. A Cat 1 is nothing to get too scared about if you're in Florida, but the infrastructure and preparedness for a storm like this in the NE is a totally different ballgame. I don't think condescending to people over it is very cool, in other words.
 
2012-10-29 11:48:53 PM

adambuck: Not to take anything from Sandy, but the storm doesn't seem to be turning north. It seems like it's aimed at the midwest now and with a front coming from the west, what does that mean for those in the midwest?Link


Don't storms normally go to the East? This is a franken storm!
 
2012-10-29 11:48:59 PM

mjg: I do understand how the Hurricanes are named but it must suck when your name is chosen.
(A friend of mine is named Sandy)


The good news is it won't be chosen again. It's getting retired regardless of what ends up happening in the USA because of what happened in the Caribbean.
 
2012-10-29 11:49:06 PM

WhyteRaven74: [i.imwx.com image 650x366]

I don't think that plywood is helping much tonight


You do realize that was never supposed to hold up to a hurricane, right? It was for safety.
 
2012-10-29 11:49:17 PM
pbs.twimg.com

Remember that day they ran out of food coloring when they were filming "The Shining?"

Kubrick was pissed!
 
2012-10-29 11:49:25 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Looting? In lower manhattan?


Well there are parts of Queens and Brooklyn that are just as farked as lower Manhattan.
 
2012-10-29 11:50:17 PM
It's a SUB-tropical system.

Jeebus you northeasterners are a bunch of crybaby pussies.
 
2012-10-29 11:50:32 PM

sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.


The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.
 
2012-10-29 11:50:51 PM
Southwest Ohio. No effects from the storm whatsoever, not even so much as a light drizzle. There is a slight breeze but nothing really unusual.
 
2012-10-29 11:51:00 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

Then of course you'll be willing to pay your fair share of it, in insurance premium increases, etc?


Who says I don't? Been paying windstorm premiums for several years...never made a claim. You?
 
2012-10-29 11:51:08 PM
Alphabet city. Gonna be a lot of farkers busy tomorrow photoshopping the looting beer guy into all of these.

pbs.twimg.com
 
2012-10-29 11:51:27 PM

Perditax: adambuck: Not to take anything from Sandy, but the storm doesn't seem to be turning north. It seems like it's aimed at the midwest now and with a front coming from the west, what does that mean for those in the midwest?Link

Oh my. I'm pretty sure it means those of us in the Midwest say "eep?!"

/St. Louis
//Midwest, USA


If I'm remembering right from my meteorology class, the reason most weather coming here to NY moves generally west to east is due to the Coriolis effect. I am under the impression (armchair speculation that is) that that is a big reason why it is forecast to hang north and then back north east; even the enormous force of this storm can't entirely go against the earth's rotation.

(insert Superman jokes here)
 
2012-10-29 11:51:40 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: ariseatex: Going from "hurricane" to "post-tropical cyclone" is NOT a downgrade. It's the change between a storm having a warm core (hurricane) to a cold core (similar to most mid-latitude storms). The energy that was there as a hurricane is still there.

Okay. The transition from category 1 hurricane to tropical storm is widely and generally referred to as a "downgrade". For you we will refer to it as a descending classification shift. Going up one category in storm strength is referred to as an upgrade.


That would be correct if Sandy downgraded to a tropical storm. It wasn't. It was reclassified as a post-tropical cyclone due to inferences about the temperature at the center of the storm. It could be at Cat 5 intensity and still be a post-tropical cyclone. As it was, there was no decrease in intensity when it was reclassified. It became, essentially, a cold hurricane. Or, at least, it was akin to a cold hurricane when they reclassified it. It's probably weakened in the last few hours into something the equivalent of at trop storm
 
2012-10-29 11:51:51 PM

catzies: PRAY FOR SOMACANDRA


Finally some RESPECT around here!

/heh, thanks
 
2012-10-29 11:52:00 PM

Evil High Priest: Atypical Person Reading Fark: epoc_tnac: majestic: Not to downplay anyone's personal situation, but this is the weakest "perfect storm" I've ever seen. And I hope it stays that way.

Really? This storm has exceeded the expectations of the media, and they were hoping for the worst.

So, really?

I agree. The total cost of all this is phenomenal - and at a time when no one can afford it. The only reason it's not way worse in terms of human life is all the money already spent on infrastructure getting ready for such things.

Be interesting to see how a strapped economy is going to deal with cleaning up after this. Even if only a 500 mile swath experiences outages, debris, fires, dead cars, flooded housing, that's a helluva lot of insurance claims.

Mmm hm. And then next year when it happens again. And twice the year after.. I blame Al Gore.


Next year it will be bigger, right? And then the year after, two of the bigger ones?

Good times.
 
2012-10-29 11:52:12 PM

WhyteRaven74: cameroncrazy1984: Looting? In lower manhattan?

Well there are parts of Queens and Brooklyn that are just as farked as lower Manhattan.


we had a blackout that lasted for several days in some areas in 2004 and there wasn't really much in the way of looting. We save that sort of gauche behavior for the Left Coasters. We're classier than that ;)
 
2012-10-29 11:52:20 PM

12349876: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.


Oh, I didn't realize. Where?
 
2012-10-29 11:52:35 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: It's a SUB-tropical system.

Jeebus you northeasterners are a bunch of crybaby pussies.


fark you.

Alright, heading to bed. The farktards who have no farking idea what they're farking talking about have apparently taken over the thread. Maybe by tomorrow people will look up what a farking post-tropical system actually is before assuming it's a farking weakling. Wouldn't hold my breath, stupidity can't be cured.
 
2012-10-29 11:52:36 PM

ariseatex: *facepalm*


Yep.
 
2012-10-29 11:53:37 PM

Cluckity: Alphabet city. Gonna be a lot of farkers busy tomorrow photoshopping the looting beer guy into all of these.

[pbs.twimg.com image 600x800]


man, I can only imagine how nasty that water is. Drainage from Washington Square park is probably 86% hypodermic needles
 
2012-10-29 11:53:49 PM

sethen320: 12349876: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.

Oh, I didn't realize. Where?


lower Manhattan for starters
 
2012-10-29 11:54:04 PM

sethen320: Oh, I didn't realize. Where?



Where have you been for the last 12 hours?
 
2012-10-29 11:54:31 PM
Man, you guys are slacking.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-29 11:54:39 PM

12349876: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.


It's not that we don't get that, it's that we have been told that New York is The Greatest City on EarthTM and they apparently never thought to install flood controls despite the fact that they're on level with the Atlantic Ocean and on a potential hurricane track. Now we're going to get to spend a few hundred million dollars cleaning it up.
 
2012-10-29 11:54:53 PM

skullkrusher: WhyteRaven74: cameroncrazy1984: Looting? In lower manhattan?

Well there are parts of Queens and Brooklyn that are just as farked as lower Manhattan.

we had a blackout that lasted for several days in some areas in 2004 and there wasn't really much in the way of looting. We save that sort of gauche behavior for the Left Coasters. We're classier than that ;)


And 9-11? No problems at all.

As Skullkrusher said...we are far more civilized thankyouverymuch.
 
2012-10-29 11:55:15 PM

ariseatex: The more you eat the more you fart: It's a SUB-tropical system.

Jeebus you northeasterners are a bunch of crybaby pussies.

fark you.

Alright, heading to bed. The farktards who have no farking idea what they're farking talking about have apparently taken over the thread. Maybe by tomorrow people will look up what a farking post-tropical system actually is before assuming it's a farking weakling. Wouldn't hold my breath, stupidity can't be cured.


fark YOU.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Here, a category 1 hurricane makes people go "meh...time to buy some beer"

A category 1 up there and everyone thinks its the coming of the apocolypse. We get hit by Category 3, 4, 5 hurricanes on a regular basis, and no one thinks its a big deal. You guys get a little rain and 50mph winds and act like you're gonna die.

/lives on the gulf coast
//go fark yourself..again.
 
2012-10-29 11:55:29 PM

sethen320: Atypical Person Reading Fark: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

Then of course you'll be willing to pay your fair share of it, in insurance premium increases, etc?

Who says I don't? Been paying windstorm premiums for several years...never made a claim. You?


We all pay. I'm just not into admonishing others to "get a grip." I guess I can keep paying until I die, but I'm not sure my kids are making enough to pay for my share when I'm dead.

It's not the end of the world, or the universe, but such events can mean significant changes in how people live. Whether people still have jobs. Whether people get health care. Stuff like that.
 
2012-10-29 11:56:24 PM

ariseatex: The more you eat the more you fart: It's a SUB-tropical system.

Jeebus you northeasterners are a bunch of crybaby pussies.

fark you.

Alright, heading to bed. The farktards who have no farking idea what they're farking talking about have apparently taken over the thread. Maybe by tomorrow people will look up what a farking post-tropical system actually is before assuming it's a farking weakling. Wouldn't hold my breath, stupidity can't be cured.


Rest well, I share your irritation.
 
2012-10-29 11:56:44 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: ariseatex: Going from "hurricane" to "post-tropical cyclone" is NOT a downgrade. It's the change between a storm having a warm core (hurricane) to a cold core (similar to most mid-latitude storms). The energy that was there as a hurricane is still there.

Okay. The transition from category 1 hurricane to tropical storm is widely and generally referred to as a "downgrade". For you we will refer to it as a descending classification shift. Going up one category in storm strength is referred to as an upgrade.


It was *not* downgraded to a tropical storm. A post-tropical cyclone is *not* a tropical storm. Sandy, as of early evening, could no longer be considered a tropical cyclone of any kind since it's structure no longer fit the criteria. As such, it was declared a post-tropical cyclone, or an extratropical cyclone. The origins of the 'energy' for a tropical cyclone (which includes tropical depressions, tropical storms, and hurricanes) is very different from the energy source for extratropical cyclones like Sandy. Yes, the labeling can get confusing, but just know that a post-tropical cyclone is *not* a tropical storm.

From the National Hurricane Center as of 11 pm EDT: "...SANDY STILL PACKING HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS... ...NEXT PUBLIC ADVISORY TO BE ISSUED BY THE HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER..." The NHC ceases advisories for Sandy because it's not a tropical cyclone. The HPC picks up advisory duties to cover the rest of this storm's life.

Here's is a part of the advisory from the 7 pm EDT NHC public advisory: "AS INDICATED IN THE 5 PM DISCUSSION...SATELLITE...RADAR...AND
AIRCRAFT DATA INDICATE THAT SANDY HAS CONTINUED TO LOSE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. NHC IS NOW DESIGNATING SANDY AS A POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE. IN ADDITION...THE MAXIMUM WINDS HAVE DECREASED SLIGHTLY AND ARE NOW NEAR 85 MPH...140 KM/H"

Those 85 mph max winds would have kept Sandy at hurricane status if it were a tropical cyclone.
 
2012-10-29 11:56:46 PM

12349876: sethen320: 12349876: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.

Oh, I didn't realize. Where?

lower Manhattan for starters


Guess they shouldnt have built their homes in an area that is prone to hurricanes...and that is below sea level huh?
 
2012-10-29 11:57:32 PM

Marine1: 12349876: sethen320: Category 1 storm with extras on the side...not farking end of the world. Get a grip people.

The storm surge is much more than a normal Category 1 and is creating unprecedented flooding in many areas.

It's not that we don't get that, it's that we have been told that New York is The Greatest City on EarthTM and they apparently never thought to install flood controls despite the fact that they're on level with the Atlantic Ocean and on a potential hurricane track. Now we're going to get to spend a few hundred million dollars cleaning it up.


NYC does have flood protection. However, these surges are the greatest they've been in recorded history in lots of places. I suppose Bloomie could build 40 foot sandbag walls all around the city and have avoided a lot of the damage but there's a point where you can only plan for what can be reasonably expected.
 
2012-10-29 11:57:42 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: It's a SUB-tropical system.

Jeebus you northeasterners are a bunch of crybaby pussies.


That's called a Noreaster and they commonly do more damage than a hurricane as cold water doesn't weaken them and they survive on land..
 
mjg
2012-10-29 11:57:46 PM
Can't wait to check out my storage space on South Street at Manhattan Mini Storage. Probably will have to wait for the knuckle-draggers to get in the building in two days.

/yeah, my 'storage insurance' probably won't cover "acts of god"
//losers
 
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