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(CBS News)   Sandy hasn't even made official landfall yet, but new reports say that 1.5 million are already without p   (cbsnews.com) divider line 884
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2012-10-29 09:09:42 PM  

maglite: Why don't we just bury the lines?

As the pre-emptive shutdown in NYC shows... underground does mean immunity to storms, just to wind. Flooding can cause underground line outages in greater numbers than aerial lines.

Burying lines is not only not practical in many areas, but may be virtually impossible without destroying existing structures.

Why don't we just cut the trees?

Because most people do not like the idea of effectively clear cutting the length of these lines--and any trees which might fall into the path of the lines. In front of my home I have a tree growing into the aerial lines, I'd rather suffer an outage around storms than lose the tree. I think there are many that feel the same.


How about if you were billed the cost of the crew sent to repair every outage or they offered to cut down the tree for free. Which option would you choose then?
 
2012-10-29 09:10:50 PM  
What does a yankee Lootie look like anyway?

/don't rebuild
//Obama's Katrina?
///comes in 3's
 
2012-10-29 09:11:04 PM  
Imperial troops have entered the base! Imperial troops have en..............
 
2012-10-29 09:11:25 PM  
So we got our wish: No more Jersey Shore

www.mtv.com
 
2012-10-29 09:11:45 PM  
I'm sure it's been mentioned previously in this thread, but the "power outages" numbers usually refer to CUSTOMERS/ACCOUNTS without power. So, in residential areas, typically each house counts as one customer/account, even if 4-5 people live in that house. In business areas, obviously, the accounts aren't necessarily associated with people. Regardless, there are far more PEOPLE without power than accounts without power, obviously.

/ Strange capitalization, in hindsight.
 
2012-10-29 09:11:47 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: BlackCat23: saw no less than 5 generators in garages running with the doors partially open

Partially.

///tomorrows headlines will be funnier, i'm sure


Yeah, not too bright up in these parts, are they?

After irene, we had nearly 300 or so dumbasses rushed to the hospital for CO poisoning, either from generators placed in garages/basements(and you know, not hte 15+ feet from any windows/doors/etc like the manufacturers kindaly print in that thing they all threw away when they opened the box known as a "users manual")

/my friends and I have a CO casualty/deathpool going
//seriously, the govoner had to come on tv, radio, etc after Irene and remind these farktards about this, and 300+ STILL brought their grills, generators, etc inside
 
2012-10-29 09:13:07 PM  
Broad Channel = Racists.
 
2012-10-29 09:13:20 PM  

maglite: Why don't we just bury the lines?

As the pre-emptive shutdown in NYC shows... underground does mean immunity to storms, just to wind. Flooding can cause underground line outages in greater numbers than aerial lines.

Burying lines is not only not practical in many areas, but may be virtually impossible without destroying existing structures.

Why don't we just cut the trees?

Because most people do not like the idea of effectively clear cutting the length of these lines--and any trees which might fall into the path of the lines. In front of my home I have a tree growing into the aerial lines, I'd rather suffer an outage around storms than lose the tree. I think there are many that feel the same.


If you have your e-mail in your profile I will send you a pic of the tree that almost took out my car. It is not worth it.
 
2012-10-29 09:13:57 PM  

ottosmom: I still have power... I hope it goes out so I don't have to work tomorrow.


Meanwhile, Gallant prepared the business to be able to function on a rudimentary level without power.

UPSs on damn near everything, and did all of tomorrow's electricity-requiring tasks in advance.

Let the other businesses close, we gon' make money regardless of what the weather says.
 
2012-10-29 09:14:01 PM  
Burlington, VT here. The predictions were for 50-60 mph winds starting this afternoon with lots of downed trees and lines, but it's 9:00 and there hasn't been more than a stiff breeze. Doesn't look like anything's coming this way on the radar either. Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone in Jersey and NYC, though.
 
2012-10-29 09:15:59 PM  

maglite: Because most people do not like the idea of effectively clear cutting the length of these lines--and any trees which might fall into the path of the lines. In front of my home I have a tree growing into the aerial lines, I'd rather suffer an outage around storms than lose the tree. I think there are many that feel the same.


Doesn't matter. That's the power company's easement; if they want to cut the tree, the tree gets cut back, so fark what the homeowners want.

Your tree doesn't get to fark with the power delivery to others' homes.

BlackCat23: get real: Carth: So how much would it cost to move powerlines underground again? Why didn't we use part of the trillion dollar stimulus to do that so we don't have to deal with this shiat every snow/hurricane that hits NE.

Wow, we were just talking about it work today. Even if they were not able to underground, JUST cut the damn trees. All that money gone to nothing.

Here in CT, after Irene in particular, they _did_ spend a ton of that stimulus money to cut trees, and were still doing so right up till yesterday. It's been pretty on-going since about august, and they obviously really ramped up in the last week. That said, we still have about 500k people without power.

/it's all relative, I supoose


We aren't anywhere near the area affected by Sandy, but our power company has been pretty aggressive about trimming trees after some large outages caused by trees (it was more a fark-ton of small outages than one big one, so getting power back on took bloody forever) a few years back. We've had way, WAY fewer outages ever since they got serious about protecting the lines.
 
2012-10-29 09:16:16 PM  

hulk hogan meat shoes: Some people I know in Michigan are without power. Crazy how the remnants are getting that far and actually having an impact.


Yup...
http://hint.fm/wind/
 
2012-10-29 09:16:18 PM  
*sigh* my downstairs neighbor called to tell us she's got water leaking down from above her. We're out of town for the storm.

Hope its something broken with the building and not a retarded scenario like me leaving a window open.
 
2012-10-29 09:16:26 PM  
I can't believe my internet is still working.
 
2012-10-29 09:16:40 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: While you've got no TV, read yourself some The Road by Cormac McCarthy.

That ought to get you in the right frame of mind for facing tomorrow morning.


Good book, but a hard, bleak read. The only book that comes close to being as bleak and hopeless, that I've read anyway, was Night Work.
 
2012-10-29 09:17:13 PM  

Funk Brothers: We're feeling the effects in Ohio now. I predict hundreds of thousands without power in the Columbus Metro Area by Wednesday.


Already plenty without power in Cleveland.

70mph gusts off of the lake. The wind is something like 30mph constant right now.

Yeah, this is pissant compared to what the guys on the other side of that pesky mountain range are getting, but we normally just get lots of snow and heatstroke, depending on the month. We don't deal with wind very often.
 
2012-10-29 09:17:52 PM  
Huge assed fire burning in Rockaway right now. FD saying 5 buildings involved.
 
2012-10-29 09:18:16 PM  
s8.postimage.org
 
2012-10-29 09:18:56 PM  
Carth:

How about if you were billed the cost of the crew sent to repair every outage or they offered to cut down the tree for free. Which option would you choose then?

I called them to the cut the tree... they told me they'd put me on a list.

People like trees, particularly along roads. I'd like to see them prune trees rather then simply cut them down. Pruning costs are probably comparable to repairs when needed. Clear cutting would be cheaper. The utility company has rights of way, if that includes removing trees, let them do it... I wouldn't stop them. Just saying I'd rather have the tree.
 
2012-10-29 09:19:13 PM  
They actually cancelled schools all around here in Cleveland for some reason. Anything to get to stay home I guess. Gusts to 50mph or so. Basically just like 2 months a year during winter, but with rain instead of snow. Unbelievable. I'd be pissed if I had kids.
 
2012-10-29 09:20:11 PM  
In a highrise on the waterfront in Jersey City. We're safe on the 27th floor, but most of the nearby streets are completely underwater. I assume the nearby PATH station at Exchange Place is flooded, as the waters are a lot higher than it is, though we can't see it from our building. Also watched the power go out in a large portion of Manhattan about twenty minutes ago. Was eerie seeing the Empire State Building go suddenly dark.
 
2012-10-29 09:21:22 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 320x181]

"...if he was in a blackout, he wouldn't bother to type 'already without p'..."


Maybe he was taking dictation?
 
2012-10-29 09:21:35 PM  
No power here in north jersey...wicked wind trees and signs down everywhere...expecting mad flooding by morning...cell service keeps cutting in and out
 
2012-10-29 09:22:09 PM  
Gawker's down. Since they spend most of their time biatching or being pedantic, I figured they were from that area.
 
2012-10-29 09:22:20 PM  
Storm says:

This is a reminder re: who's in charge, no?

Human says:

"Yes, Sir."

Human reads and grows.
 
2012-10-29 09:22:55 PM  
There's a sale at Penney's!

i.i.com.com
 
2012-10-29 09:22:59 PM  

Evil Canadian: Meanwhile, we have a death in Toronto already. Woman killed when Staples sign flies apart in wind.


DAMN YOU ROMNEY!!!

...sorry, couldn't resist. Unfortunate.

The wind's been steadily picking up for a few hours. Must be raining, based on the sound of cars on wet road outside. Partner's already snoozing, our younger cat is kneading my blanket, and so far the wind gusts must be coming from the north and east since my west-facing apartment isn't rattling yet.

Stay safe out there.
 
2012-10-29 09:23:36 PM  
Lower Manhattan, south of Canal St. in total darkness.

Frea-ky.
 
2012-10-29 09:26:28 PM  

Rwa2play: Lower Manhattan, south of Canal St. in total darkness.


News just said everything south of 39 st is now out. And here people freaked when I left NYC and moved to tornado alley. LOL
 
2012-10-29 09:28:00 PM  

jayessell: Lost power here 20 min ago .
(Orange county NY)
Good news: cable modem and wifi on UPS, as is
the DVR.
Bad news: one beeps 4 times every 30 seconds
and the other 2 times every 25 seconds.

Can't sleep.


you can silence the beeps on most ups's
 
2012-10-29 09:28:29 PM  

star_topology: So we got our wish: No more Jersey Shore

[www.mtv.com image 600x400]



www.wearysloth.com

"Wiped clean by the wrath of God."
 
2012-10-29 09:28:32 PM  

Nothing To See Here: [s8.postimage.org image 640x427]


I really enjoy the 10 pixels in that image.
 
2012-10-29 09:28:34 PM  

2xhelix: Rwa2play: Lower Manhattan, south of Canal St. in total darkness.

News just said everything south of 39 st is now out. And here people freaked when I left NYC and moved to tornado alley. LOL


Battery Park City and the WTC still have power. We can see it from our apartment. Everywhere else in Manhattan that we can see well is in darkness, though I can tell there are some lights in the distance in Midtown. Empire State Building is out.
 
2012-10-29 09:28:50 PM  

INeedAName: In NW DC. Pepco has about 17k customers without power, but we're still on. The winds are pretty strong but that's about it. According to the hourly forecast they should be down in the mid 20's by tomorrow morning. On the plus side, no work tomorrow!

/And the wife and I already generated a little electricity once today

 
2012-10-29 09:29:14 PM  
remember, this is nyc's hurricane, not yours.
 
2012-10-29 09:29:57 PM  

KarmicDisaster: jayessell: Lost power here 20 min ago .
(Orange county NY)
Good news: cable modem and wifi on UPS, as is
the DVR.
Bad news: one beeps 4 times every 30 seconds
and the other 2 times every 25 seconds.

Can't sleep.

Unless you have a really mondo big UPS, it won't power even that light load very long.


mine runs my cable modem and router for about 12 hours,.... id unplug the damn dvr though..
 
2012-10-29 09:30:12 PM  
Just so everyone gets word from the real experts:

Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan Oct 28

WHY is everyone in SUCH a panic about hurricane (i'm calling it Sally)..? Stop projecting negativity! Think positive and pray for peace.
 
2012-10-29 09:31:32 PM  
The power is still on at my house in Northern Virginia, but I'm just lucky. As I typed this the I experienced the first house-shakin' gust of wind of the evening (as opposed to the lesser, window ratlin' gusts).
 
2012-10-29 09:31:43 PM  
I'm half-expecting a late-night email from work telling us not to bother. The grid in that part of town is gobshiat, and drops whenever someone sneezes.

If it arrives, out comes the cheap wine.
 
2012-10-29 09:31:55 PM  

Gosling: Just so everyone gets word from the real experts:

Lindsay Lohan @lindsaylohan Oct 28

WHY is everyone in SUCH a panic about hurricane (i'm calling it Sally)..? Stop projecting negativity! Think positive and pray for peace.


Seriously?

Lindsay?

We should totally fuk.

*)
 
2012-10-29 09:32:53 PM  
Evil Canadian: Meanwhile, we have a death in Toronto already. Woman killed when Staples sign flies apart in wind.

the real pussy kicker of it was, the wind speed in that part of Toronto was only gusting up to 65 k/ph
 
2012-10-29 09:33:06 PM  
Couldn't happen in a better place.
 
2012-10-29 09:33:31 PM  

Mr. Chainsaw: Burlington, VT here. The predictions were for 50-60 mph winds starting this afternoon with lots of downed trees and lines, but it's 9:00 and there hasn't been more than a stiff breeze. Doesn't look like anything's coming this way on the radar either. Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone in Jersey and NYC, though.


you remember what happened when Irene came through?

don't worry, it'll get there. and you'll be SOL again.
 
2012-10-29 09:34:03 PM  
Most of the power outages are because the power companies (like Manhattan) were ordered to shut off power as a "precaution". So instead of waiting for a tree to hit a line and shut people down you go ahead and ruin all their refrigerated food now? These "precautionary" closures are costing 25 percent of the country to shut down. This storm has already been downgraded - no longer a huricane. It is harsh in some places, but shutting off power early - that's a new one. Why?
 
2012-10-29 09:34:27 PM  
Lower East Side has no power. Family and friends are checking in on the (significant number) of elderly residents.

My office seems to be under 6 feet of water.

Lights flickering uptown, hope the whole island doesn't go out. We're well above ground here on the Upper West Side, but they might have capacity issues at this point if the East Side power plant went out.

My parents live maybe half a mile from this: http://pics.lockerz.com/u/18246442/photos/257337121/wow_the_fdr_drive_ sandy_trscoop_wsjweath
 
2012-10-29 09:35:22 PM  
Photos from sources I can't vouch for, but some crazy stuff out there.

http://instagram.com/p/RYue5_koDz/
http://instagram.com/p/RYuVQVG6mq
(14 st. and Avenue C) http://twitpic.com/b8mgci
http://instagram.com/p/RYxLr7uhF4/
https://twitter.com/nycarecs/status/263075847999725568/photo/1
 
2012-10-29 09:35:57 PM  

modestlivinglegend: Most of the power outages are because the power companies (like Manhattan) were ordered to shut off power as a "precaution". So instead of waiting for a tree to hit a line and shut people down you go ahead and ruin all their refrigerated food now? These "precautionary" closures are costing 25 percent of the country to shut down. This storm has already been downgraded - no longer a huricane. It is harsh in some places, but shutting off power early - that's a new one. Why?


modestlivinglegend: Most of the power outages are because the power companies (like Manhattan) were ordered to shut off power as a "precaution". So instead of waiting for a tree to hit a line and shut people down you go ahead and ruin all their refrigerated food now? These "precautionary" closures are costing 25 percent of the country to shut down. This storm has already been downgraded - no longer a huricane. It is harsh in some places, but shutting off power early - that's a new one. Why?


It sounds like the majority of it - outside of Fulton/Bowling Green - was unintentional. And we have no outside lines, so trees are not a concerned. I think their power plant on 14th and FDR drive may have flooded... but no confirmation yet.
 
2012-10-29 09:36:13 PM  

modestlivinglegend: Most of the power outages are because the power companies (like Manhattan) were ordered to shut off power as a "precaution". So instead of waiting for a tree to hit a line and shut people down you go ahead and ruin all their refrigerated food now? These "precautionary" closures are costing 25 percent of the country to shut down. This storm has already been downgraded - no longer a huricane. It is harsh in some places, but shutting off power early - that's a new one. Why?



To remind you that you are a slave to the POWER GODS, that's why.
 
2012-10-29 09:36:24 PM  

SpikeStrip: remember, this is nyc's hurricane, not yours.


don't understand the pettiness during these things. are you really that butthurt?
 
2012-10-29 09:36:31 PM  

SpikeStrip: remember, this is nyc's hurricane, not yours.


2 hours ago, everyone was concerned about the New Jersey shore. Now that Manhattan has flooded, we'll never hear the end of it.

/hope all my friends in nyc are okay, even if they won't shut up about it on twitter.
 
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