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(Huffington Post)   "Siri, who should I fire for the Apple Maps mess?"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 63
    More: Obvious, Scott Forstall, John Browett, Apple Maps, SVP, Kara Swisher, Don't Bother, Journalism ethics and standards, King James Bible  
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2012-10-30 01:47:36 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Treygreen13: I used the Maps app on my phone today to find a municipal courthouse by the street address. I swear to god it put the pin in the middle of a lake.

Hopefully you did not swim too far before noticing it was incorrect.

Hate when that happens.


Me too. The 4G service at the bottom of this lake is awful.
 
2012-10-30 02:20:22 PM

jonny_q: 1. I'm about as anti-Apple as it gets, but I really don't care about this whole map thing. Every company that has done their own maps has had some really screwy stuff in the first version. So what?...


You can have "screwy stuff in the first version" if nobody else has a working version. You aren't competing version 1.0 with version 1.0, but your version 1.0 has to be better than their current version. It's why zune was a punchline, everybody agrees it was a nice mp3 player, but it came out years after the ipod and it didn't do a damn thing better (any feature that was better was crippled to the point of mocking by DRM).

This was Apple's strength for the last 15 years, they wouldn't be the first to market with a new feature, but their version of the feature was infinitely more useful than Microsoft/Android/Dell/Motorola/Creative Labs and so forth.

What makes the snafu even worse, Apple violated their social contract with their customers, Apple says "We won't let you have everything you want, but what we give you will work perfectly."
 
2012-10-30 02:39:30 PM
Well, I'll be an old fart and admit that I like Aqua, enough that I've held off on OS X upgrades to keep it. A little bit of color makes a big difference in my interaction with the computer. If I have a hung browser, Aqua offers a cue that I don't have in Lion and later.

As for Forstall's obsession with skeuomorphs, I think it worked out well for iOS; for Macs, not so much. He forgot that they are completely different tools. But when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
 
2012-10-30 04:31:47 PM
I'm no fan boy, but i do like iphones. I've had 3G, 4 & 4S, but i also have a kindle fire and Samsung 10.1

I'm appraiser and use mapping to find property in Oklahoma.

The apple mapping sucks so bad, I'm really close to buying a samsung.
 
2012-10-30 06:03:27 PM
A couple of weeks ago I was in an unfamiliar part of town, and foolishly used Apple maps to find me a burrito place. It took me to some random house in a suburban neighborhood.
 
2012-10-30 06:23:01 PM

Tad_Waxpole: A couple of weeks ago I was in an unfamiliar part of town, and foolishly used Apple maps to find me a burrito place. It took me to some random house in a suburban neighborhood.


How were their burritos?
 
2012-10-31 12:37:36 AM
I tried using Apple maps. I don't understand Apple. They really had a great thing with Google maps and knowingly put a substandard product in it's place. So much so, I cannot trust it. I called Apple to complain, they say keep using it so we can get better and a fix is in the works. But I bought the product with a working maps application and was switched after I bought to a substandard maps app. They should allow us to go back to what we were happy with, not force this abortion of an app on us.

I really thought highly of Apple and enjoyed using their products. This has hurt the way I feel about the company and think about them. If they are making these kind of substandard decisions, what else are they doing?

Apple...recall the maps app until the bugs are worked out in a voluntary test with people who want to help you crawl before you walk before you run....and give us the real working maps app back.
 
2012-10-31 04:42:59 AM

Treygreen13: lake


Remember that cute little Asian bloke, a semi famous geek TV personality. Drove his car into a snow drift coz his electronic gadget told him to.

Then he left his wife and kids in the car and walked off. Wearing tennis shows and no pants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-31 06:45:09 AM
Was amusing to see today twin stories - that Siri can find prostitutes in China (until recently), but not abortion clinics in the USA. Or at least given the linked story, it can tell you where they are supposed to be, but not guide you there I guess.
 
2012-10-31 06:48:42 AM

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: I really thought highly of Apple and enjoyed using their products. This has hurt the way I feel about the company and think about them. If they are making these kind of substandard decisions, what else are they doing?


Lots and lots and lots of stuff. You just woke up from your Matrix-y dream. Stuff like:

Not having SMS messaging, Exchange, any sense of battery life on the first phone
"You're holding it wrong"
Purple tints on the camera AKA "You're Holding It Wrong II: Electric Boogie"
Forcing users to buy new accessories every model or so
etc.
etc.
etc.
 
Zel
2012-10-31 11:49:49 AM

Big Ramifications: Drove his car into a snow drift coz his electronic gadget told him to.


I read the story and it claims that initial speculation blamed electronic maps, but the family testified they were using paper maps and didn't notice the fine print that warned not all roads are accessible in winter.
 
2012-10-31 01:20:09 PM

Zel: Big Ramifications: Drove his car into a snow drift coz his electronic gadget told him to.

I read the story and it claims that initial speculation blamed electronic maps, but the family testified they were using paper maps and didn't notice the fine print that warned not all roads are accessible in winter.

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Cheers for the update. I scanned his Wiki page before I posted, and I kinda got the feeling that's not how I remembered it beng reported.

Zel: ....the fine print that warned not all roads are accessible in winter.


That's like a plot from a Stephen King story. The Raft springs to mind. Hard to believe it happened in 2006.
 
2012-10-31 02:08:40 PM
For those needing driving directions, give this one a try if you want an alternative to Apple Maps...

Waze

I like that it's community driven so you get live road updates as it collects info from other users. Users can report hazards, speed traps, etc and they show up as you're driving. It will also re-route you around traffic issues detected or reported by other users when possible.
 
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