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2012-10-29 02:43:51 PM
Twinkies.
 
2012-10-29 03:28:50 PM
Know which of your neighbors is the weakest.
 
2012-10-29 03:29:11 PM
Cook and eat only what you can consume in one day, starting with the youngest child.
 
2012-10-29 03:36:42 PM
Here's what I have at my house; I'm not in hurricane country, but we have ice storms from time to time:
1Kw generator (small, quiet, sips gas)>>>RV 50A RV power supply (turns 120VAC to 14.4VDC)>>>4 deep cycle batteries>>>3/6KW inverter>>>transfer switch>>>circuit breaker panel for house

With this setup, the generator keeps the batteries charged up, and the inverter runs off of the batteries. Most of our power use is small (compact florescent bulbs, and gas heat), so the 1Kw generator handles this load, and the batteries/inverter handle the surge of the refrigerators starting up, as well as the microwave overn.
It's worked very well and 5 gallons of gas will last a few days.
The beauty of this system, is that you can still have power during a severe storm without going outside to run a generator. Then when the storm passes, you plug in the generator and get the batteries charged back up. (set this up originally as an inverter only system so that we could keep the lights/tv on in the basement during severe thunderstorms/tornadoes that we have from time to time here in the midwest).
 
2012-10-29 03:38:50 PM
The wife and I rent the basement (with a full kitchen and huge storage) from her parents. The power could go out for a month and we would all be fine with the amount of food we've collectively got in the house. Additionally, we have a creek that always has water in it about 100' from the house.
 
2012-10-29 03:41:40 PM

queezyweezel: Here's what I have at my house; I'm not in hurricane country, but we have ice storms from time to time:
1Kw generator (small, quiet, sips gas)>>>RV 50A RV power supply (turns 120VAC to 14.4VDC)>>>4 deep cycle batteries>>>3/6KW inverter>>>transfer switch>>>circuit breaker panel for house

With this setup, the generator keeps the batteries charged up, and the inverter runs off of the batteries. Most of our power use is small (compact florescent bulbs, and gas heat), so the 1Kw generator handles this load, and the batteries/inverter handle the surge of the refrigerators starting up, as well as the microwave overn.
It's worked very well and 5 gallons of gas will last a few days.
The beauty of this system, is that you can still have power during a severe storm without going outside to run a generator. Then when the storm passes, you plug in the generator and get the batteries charged back up. (set this up originally as an inverter only system so that we could keep the lights/tv on in the basement during severe thunderstorms/tornadoes that we have from time to time here in the midwest).


Whenever I buy a home, one of the first purchases I intend to make is a natural gas powered, whole house generator. I know they are expensive, but I think over the course of 10-15 years, it would be well worth the expense. I would NEVER have to worry about loss of power.
 
2012-10-29 04:01:35 PM

Endive Wombat: queezyweezel: Here's what I have at my house; I'm not in hurricane country, but we have ice storms from time to time:
1Kw generator (small, quiet, sips gas)>>>RV 50A RV power supply (turns 120VAC to 14.4VDC)>>>4 deep cycle batteries>>>3/6KW inverter>>>transfer switch>>>circuit breaker panel for house

With this setup, the generator keeps the batteries charged up, and the inverter runs off of the batteries. Most of our power use is small (compact florescent bulbs, and gas heat), so the 1Kw generator handles this load, and the batteries/inverter handle the surge of the refrigerators starting up, as well as the microwave overn.
It's worked very well and 5 gallons of gas will last a few days.
The beauty of this system, is that you can still have power during a severe storm without going outside to run a generator. Then when the storm passes, you plug in the generator and get the batteries charged back up. (set this up originally as an inverter only system so that we could keep the lights/tv on in the basement during severe thunderstorms/tornadoes that we have from time to time here in the midwest).

Whenever I buy a home, one of the first purchases I intend to make is a natural gas powered, whole house generator. I know they are expensive, but I think over the course of 10-15 years, it would be well worth the expense. I would NEVER have to worry about loss of power.


I looked at em, but for a good (1800RPM nice and quiet 20KW) whole house genset and transfer switch, it was around $5-7K.
I had the inverter on hand, and the batteries,transfer switch, and el cheapo harbor freight generator ran me about $600.
I'll eventually get a NG 10-15KW genset running, but I'd like to tinker and build it myself if I can.
/ I plan to pick up one of the Chinese 10KW ST generator heads, and mate it to an old carbureted 4cyl motor powered by NG. Should be solid as a tank, and pretty quiet. As a bonus, I could heat the garage with the radiator on it.)
 
2012-10-29 05:34:44 PM
I assume that just cracking open a can of Chef Boyardee and pouring it into your face isn't on the list?
 
2012-10-29 06:06:34 PM
It may be helpful to point out the generator does not ever go in the basement or even garage while in use.
 
2012-10-29 07:03:54 PM

Relatively Obscure: I assume that just cracking open a can of Chef Boyardee and pouring it into your face isn't on the list?


Having been deployed for months at a time in a field environment, almost ANY canned food is edible cold or hot.

Yes, even Chef Boyardee.

/Beefaroni for the win
 
2012-10-29 07:14:39 PM
No drinking piss?
 
2012-10-29 07:17:26 PM
Canned possibilities!
 
2012-10-29 07:17:43 PM

LegacyDL: No drinking piss?


That's only for outages lasting 12 hours or more.
 
2012-10-29 07:18:07 PM
Stock as much water as you can for bathing, washing, cooking, drinking, and flushing toilets. Consider filling up one or two new large garbage cans with water. ESPECIALLY if you have children.

Buy shotgun shells to take care of zombies and to cauterize wounds.
 
2012-10-29 07:18:47 PM

LegacyDL: No drinking piss?


maybe tomorrow, you in a hurry?
 
2012-10-29 07:18:48 PM
Protip: Peanut butter.
 
2012-10-29 07:22:22 PM
Pickled eggs and PBR. Great for when you are trapped inside with loved ones.
 
2012-10-29 07:22:42 PM
People try to get through the aisles at Whole Foods Market in Midtown in New York on Sunday before the storm

Fail #1
Fail #2

Prepare a little bit first, ya idiots.
 
2012-10-29 07:23:40 PM
six year old pie filling
 
2012-10-29 07:23:57 PM
If you have tealight candles, you can cut the bottom of an aluminum can off, poke pin holes in it all around for air flow, place candle inside and light, and then put a bowl of soup or cup of coffee on top to heat it.

It's called a buddy-burner.
 
2012-10-29 07:25:05 PM
I assume there are people with freezers they just filled with game.

/Not a hunter so don't know if it's too early for that
 
2012-10-29 07:26:12 PM

ZzeusS: People try to get through the aisles at Whole Foods Market in Midtown in New York on Sunday before the storm

Fail #1
Fail #2

Prepare a little bit first, ya idiots.


What I hate is when a store is going to be closed for a holiday and people go nuts buying stuff like it's the apocalypse. Yes, Grocery Mart will be closed for Christmas Day, you really don't need to buy a month's word of bread and milk. Cripes.
 
2012-10-29 07:26:56 PM

dofus: I assume there are people with freezers they just filled with game.

/Not a hunter so don't know if it's too early for that


Too early?

*)
 
2012-10-29 07:26:58 PM
I'm going to bookmark this. If I'm ever without power for a few days, I'm coming here first!
 
2012-10-29 07:28:30 PM

Indubitably: dofus: I assume there are people with freezers they just filled with game.

/Not a hunter so don't know if it's too early for that

Too early?

*)


If there's disaster, on an apocalyptical level, the season is on to feed my family, sir.
 
2012-10-29 07:28:31 PM
Due to the high winds in Atlanta today, my power flickered earlier today. I just went ahead and ate my dog.
 
2012-10-29 07:28:42 PM
Tampons and maxi pads. Have a Russian friend who was in the Navy. He would bring cartons home and sell or trade them.
 
2012-10-29 07:32:10 PM
Large renewable source of water ...check
stock piled canned and dry goods... check
Flash Lights... My god theres so many of them,check
Large brother in law with a black belt... check

All i have to do is clean my shottie

///OO buck and dragons breathe rounds a must
 
2012-10-29 07:32:25 PM
Meh, during Frances and Jeane I used a propane hibachi to heat cans of chef boyardee, soup, canned veggies, etc. Peel the labels off and stick them right on teh grill. Those little propane cylinders can last a pretty long time. Fill up the tub for flushing etc.

/dnrtfa
//sick of the term frankenstorm.
 
2012-10-29 07:33:00 PM
Jeezus H Christ. The Liberal MS Media is shiatting themselves. NY is gonna get a Cat 1 rain storm and every article is like the Book of Eli and how people can safely re-build society after the storm kills 99% of us. You don't see this kind of crap in the east coast mediot outlets for every dam cat 3 or 4 that hits Florida or Texas. The're like, huh, it's raining again in the Gulf of Mexico, here's Debbies best pizza resturant reviews on the East Side Eleventy!!11!!!
 
2012-10-29 07:33:16 PM
Always keep your neighbors and your dog fat.
 
2012-10-29 07:33:42 PM
I love the grill idea. and the warning about watching CO2 levels, but they never actually say DONT USE IT INDOORS. They just say "I know you can't use it outside in the storm, but.."

A supporter of natural selection?
 
2012-10-29 07:34:27 PM

nvmac: Relatively Obscure: I assume that just cracking open a can of Chef Boyardee and pouring it into your face isn't on the list?

Having been deployed for months at a time in a field environment, almost ANY canned food is edible cold or hot.

Yes, even Chef Boyardee.

/Beefaroni for the win


Well, I've only enjoyed my cold canned chef boyardee while in the comforts of civilization, but I've found that the spagetti and meatballs is quite good with a heavy dousing of Crystal hot sauce, and a generous serving of freshly crushed black pepper. Jumbo meatballs was better, but they stopped making it.
 
2012-10-29 07:38:13 PM

FunkOut: ZzeusS: People try to get through the aisles at Whole Foods Market in Midtown in New York on Sunday before the storm

Fail #1
Fail #2

Prepare a little bit first, ya idiots.

What I hate is when a store is going to be closed for a holiday and people go nuts buying stuff like it's the apocalypse. Yes, Grocery Mart will be closed for Christmas Day, you really don't need to buy a month's word of bread and milk. Cripes.



It doesn't take a whole lot of planning. Just the mindset. Little bit of pasta on sale here or there. Canned tuna. Dry or canned milk. Dry goods, etc.
 
2012-10-29 07:40:04 PM
We've cooked over the gas fireplace in the past, worked pretty well.
 
2012-10-29 07:40:22 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Jeezus H Christ. The Liberal MS Media is shiatting themselves. NY is gonna get a Cat 1 rain storm and every article is like the Book of Eli and how people can safely re-build society after the storm kills 99% of us. You don't see this kind of crap in the east coast mediot outlets for every dam cat 3 or 4 that hits Florida or Texas. The're like, huh, it's raining again in the Gulf of Mexico, here's Debbies best pizza resturant reviews on the East Side Eleventy!!11!!!


Cat 1 rain storm with a 13ish foot storm surge combined with higher than average tides with the fullish moon... it's not the rain that's gonna fark with the south half of Manhattan...
 
2012-10-29 07:41:15 PM

Dead-Guy: I love the grill idea. and the warning about watching CO2 levels, but they never actually say DONT USE IT INDOORS. They just say "I know you can't use it outside in the storm, but.."

A supporter of natural selection?




You only have to worry about oxygen displacement. Crack and window or two and you're golden.
 
2012-10-29 07:42:20 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-10-29 07:43:24 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Jeezus H Christ. The Liberal MS Media is shiatting themselves. NY is gonna get a Cat 1 rain storm and every article is like the Book of Eli and how people can safely re-build society after the storm kills 99% of us. You don't see this kind of crap in the east coast mediot outlets for every dam cat 3 or 4 that hits Florida or Texas. The're like, huh, it's raining again in the Gulf of Mexico, here's Debbies best pizza resturant reviews on the East Side Eleventy!!11!!!


I'm not saying it's an alien conspiracy, but...
 
2012-10-29 07:47:44 PM

ZzeusS:
It doesn't take a whole lot of planning. Just the mindset. Little bit of pasta on sale here or there. Canned tuna. Dry or canned milk. Dry goods, etc.


What I find useful is anything you can make with some boiled water. Just add water soups, oatmeal, etc.
 
2012-10-29 07:54:27 PM

LeafyGreens: Due to the high winds in Atlanta today, my power flickered earlier today. I just went ahead and ate my dog.


*rolling and crying with laughter*

seriously funny
 
2012-10-29 07:56:28 PM
Yum, yum. Just like momma used to make... when she came home drunk.
modernsurvivalonline.com
 
2012-10-29 07:57:58 PM

nvmac: Relatively Obscure: I assume that just cracking open a can of Chef Boyardee and pouring it into your face isn't on the list?

Having been deployed for months at a time in a field environment, almost ANY canned food is edible cold or hot.

Yes, even Chef Boyardee.

/Beefaroni for the win


It's what *I* do. I just knew something like that wouldn't be there.

/Hell yeah Beefaroni.
 
2012-10-29 08:00:13 PM

Endive Wombat: queezyweezel: Here's what I have at my house; I'm not in hurricane country, but we have ice storms from time to time:
1Kw generator (small, quiet, sips gas)>>>RV 50A RV power supply (turns 120VAC to 14.4VDC)>>>4 deep cycle batteries>>>3/6KW inverter>>>transfer switch>>>circuit breaker panel for house

With this setup, the generator keeps the batteries charged up, and the inverter runs off of the batteries. Most of our power use is small (compact florescent bulbs, and gas heat), so the 1Kw generator handles this load, and the batteries/inverter handle the surge of the refrigerators starting up, as well as the microwave overn.
It's worked very well and 5 gallons of gas will last a few days.
The beauty of this system, is that you can still have power during a severe storm without going outside to run a generator. Then when the storm passes, you plug in the generator and get the batteries charged back up. (set this up originally as an inverter only system so that we could keep the lights/tv on in the basement during severe thunderstorms/tornadoes that we have from time to time here in the midwest).

Whenever I buy a home, one of the first purchases I intend to make is a natural gas powered, whole house generator. I know they are expensive, but I think over the course of 10-15 years, it would be well worth the expense. I would NEVER have to worry about loss of power.


two words for you -- tree roots -- uprooted trees can take out gas and water lines. And flooding can take out gas pumping stations. If storm damage is bad enough that your electricity is out for more than a couple of days, you may not have gas either.
 
2012-10-29 08:00:29 PM

ZzeusS: Dead-Guy: I love the grill idea. and the warning about watching CO2 levels, but they never actually say DONT USE IT INDOORS. They just say "I know you can't use it outside in the storm, but.."

A supporter of natural selection?



You only have to worry about oxygen displacement. Crack and window or two and you're golden.


Crack solves everything.
 
2012-10-29 08:00:44 PM

Endive Wombat: The wife and I rent the basement (with a full kitchen and huge storage) from her parents. The power could go out for a month and we would all be fine with the amount of food we've collectively got in the house. Additionally, we have a creek that always has water in it about 100' from the house.


Ha! You live in your parent's basement. Or your in-law's basement. This is fark why am I surprised?

/Just givin you a hard time
 
2012-10-29 08:04:31 PM
I farkin' hate eggplant.
 
2012-10-29 08:04:41 PM
No media source is mentioning this method because some listeners would probably get sick and sue them, but if you have heat you really don't need cold to keep several types of food such as stews and pot roasts edible for days.

If your food is in a pot with a fairly good lid you only need to heat it to boiling around once a day to keep it from spoiling. You do need to be disciplined to heat it after the lid has been put back on.

Before the days of refrigeration people would keep big pots of stew/soup/etc for days on end with this method.

The nursery rhyme "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot 9 days old" mentions a case where something like a pea soup is still edible after nine days of this sort of heat treatment.
 
2012-10-29 08:06:29 PM

HairBolus: No media source is mentioning this method because some listeners would probably get sick and sue them, but if you have heat you really don't need cold to keep several types of food such as stews and pot roasts edible for days.

If your food is in a pot with a fairly good lid you only need to heat it to boiling around once a day to keep it from spoiling. You do need to be disciplined to heat it after the lid has been put back on.

Before the days of refrigeration people would keep big pots of stew/soup/etc for days on end with this method.

The nursery rhyme "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot 9 days old" mentions a case where something like a pea soup is still edible after nine days of this sort of heat treatment.


Okay, you're invited to lead the Quest.
 
2012-10-29 08:11:30 PM

Farxist Marxist: I farkin' hate eggplant.


When I was growing up in SW La., we had a huge garden. We grew eggplant, squash, turnips and mustard greens among other things. We pretty much lived off what we grew and it seemed like we had all of the above quite a few times a week. When I left there I swore I would never eat that shiat again and I haven't. It's been 37 years since those things have crossed my lips.
 
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