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2012-10-29 09:28:53 PM
Well, I liked it.

You can't please everyone.
 
2012-10-29 09:33:13 PM
eiger ... Next thing you know you'll tell me that sometimes LBJ wasn't completely honest!

My favorite LBJ story: Reporter was interviewing LBJ shortly before he passed away - Lady Bird came out and fussed at him to take his heart medication and he went through the motions; as soon as she left he spit it into his hand and chucked it. Reporter asked why he did not seek re-election and he replied that his doctors didn't think he'd survive another term and he'd be damned if he'd put that idiot Humphrey in charge.

/paraphrase, I believe his choice of words was slightly more colorful.
//7-11. LBJ's lasting private works program.

People forget how frightened Americans were regarding the left. Anarchists were making bombs and attacking public figures - see the latest movie on J. Edgar for a quick recap.

Just like they forget the government sent the military to break up coal strikes - result: company protected, workers got shot dead, thousands died of black lung when a simple low cost upgrade to the drilling equipment could have been effected, yet the mining companies chose not to. As much as people hate. HATE unions today, there was a damned good reason for them. (not a union fan btw but working conditions blew not too long ago).

Or when MacArthur led army cavalry units through a gathering of Veterans (wiki Bonus Army), their wives and children - several were killed - who had gathered in DC during the Depression to collect benefits promised to them, but Congress was unwilling to cut the checks.

Or hell, if we're talking FDR, look up Smedley Butler - there was a Man. He 'outed' a plot to overthrow FDR's administration using the military, organized by several of America's top power elite - GW's grandfather Prescott being one of them. The papers had a field day at his expense claiming he'd been duped, even though an investigation was able to corroborate at least some of his story. To generalize, those concerned who were brought in for questioning claimed they were playing a 'what if' game and never seriously considered going through with it. (I bet that defense would work well today...).

The schism between left and right today seems evenly divided. Arguably the Right has shifted further right in recent times, (and arguably the Left has shifted further right as well), but the extreme left and extreme right are virtually non-existent compared to past decades.

/They're still around, but not as obviously 'extreme', and a much much smaller following. As a lad, I remember seeing John Birch Society billboards promoting that the US should leave the UN. If I want to read their material today, I would go to 'The New American'. Most of the Far Left (I mean old school marxist-redistribution-of-wealth types) were gone 30 years ago. The only one I've heard of still operating is called the Kasama Project (pretty much my sum total of knowledge on them, sorry).
 
2012-10-29 09:36:12 PM

Tired_of_the_BS: The only one I've heard of still operating is called the Kasama Project (pretty much my sum total of knowledge on them, sorry).


I have comrades involved in Kasama. There is a far left in this country, and in some ways we're in better shape now than we were back in those days because the infighting, while still kinda bad, isn't nearly as disastrous as it was back then. Anarchists and communists mostly get along now, at least as far as working together on projects of common interest.
 
2012-10-29 09:43:14 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Oglaf (very NSFW).


Yeah, I think their "excuse to write porn" excuse is accurate. Comedy? Not so much. VGCats has got better humor than that and it doesn't need to have a sex-filled backstory.

schnee: /this is why voting against incumbents is a good idea


Wat? That doesn't even make goddamn sense.
 
2012-10-29 09:48:25 PM

Kome: rockforever: I would rather have gotten a graph or chart showing the ethnicity, the religion, or previous employment of Congressmen and Senators over this.

That would be awesome. Are you planning on making one?


I am actually planning a map of the US circa 1850 in a either surrealist or old map style. Its still a collaboration between me and my girlfriend. Here's hoping it gets done soon, but she just got a job in another city so I dunno. I'll keep you updated though.
 
2012-10-29 10:06:17 PM

SineSwiper: schnee: /this is why voting against incumbents is a good idea

Wat? That doesn't even make goddamn sense.


Because we've created professional legislators over time (as seen by the heights of the arcs increasing). I get that this is voting against your State's interests (seniority brings more $$$ to your State). Get the legislators back into society.
 
2012-10-29 10:08:17 PM

Gunther: Hunter_Worthington: I was thinking more inline with 1960's British Labour Party, or 1980's French Socialist Party policies, but please, continue attacking your straw men if it helps you get up in time to catch the school bus in the morning.

The post you made that irritated everyone implied that all left-leaning parties were disastrous, not just a couple of obscure, far-left foreign parties from several decades ago. If that's the standard you're using, we should avoid electing any right-leaning party due to the actions of the right-leaning Independent Democratic Union party in Chile in the 1970's or the Nationalists in Spain in the 1940's.

/there was another right-leaning European party in the 1940's that wasn't particularly spiffy, but people tend to dislike comparisons to it


uh... Go look up what party the President of France belongs to, or... oh, I see what you did there. 8/10. I bit. Good job.

DarwiOdrade: Gunther: Hunter_Worthington: I was thinking more inline with 1960's British Labour Party, or 1980's French Socialist Party policies, but please, continue attacking your straw men if it helps you get up in time to catch the school bus in the morning.

The post you made that irritated everyone implied that all left-leaning parties were disastrous, not just a couple of obscure, far-left foreign parties from several decades ago. If that's the standard you're using, we should avoid electing any right-leaning party due to the actions of the right-leaning Independent Democratic Union party in Chile in the 1970's or the Nationalists in Spain in the 1940's.

/there was another right-leaning European party in the 1940's that wasn't particularly spiffy, but people tend to dislike comparisons to it

Ahem....

Login: Hunter_Worthington
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Yep. I created my account yesterday. Your screen name is a woman who dies before the end of Chapter House: Dune, and the Half-Blood Prince was the best Harry Potter book.

Do you have a point, or are we just making statements for the fun of it?
 
2012-10-29 10:14:50 PM

wickedragon: Hunter_Worthington: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

Do yourself a favor, read a history book, and be grateful we haven't had a "left leaning party in this country in decades".
I think the US could really, really benefit from som modern "leaft leaning politics".
better job security, modern taxation systems, free health care for everyone, free education system. Lifting up the weakest parts of society is cheaper than lifting up the already rich parts of society, and it also lowers crime, creates a feeling safety both for personal economy and physical well being and thusly increases productivity. Which also makes a large portion of society happier.

So, yay scandinavian socialism!


Pft, good luck with that. I think I'd qualify as a right-leaning centrist in European politics, which puts me on the far left edge of our "left wing" party. No way we'll shift that far over any time soon... not with the way our elections work.  Stupid winner-take-all districting bullshiat.  Terrible way to elect a legislature.
 
2012-10-29 10:15:06 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Oglaf (very NSFW).


I enjoy that one, Ctrl-Alt-Delete and Somethingpositive... I just wished Oglaf updated more than late sundays...
 
2012-10-29 10:15:11 PM
The Rust Belt was not the Rust Belt in 1958.

It was still the Steel Belt. It became the Rust Belt when steel vanished in the 1970s.
 
2012-10-29 10:38:01 PM

Hunter_Worthington: Gunther: Hunter_Worthington: I was thinking more inline with 1960's British Labour Party, or 1980's French Socialist Party policies, but please, continue attacking your straw men if it helps you get up in time to catch the school bus in the morning.

The post you made that irritated everyone implied that all left-leaning parties were disastrous, not just a couple of obscure, far-left foreign parties from several decades ago. If that's the standard you're using, we should avoid electing any right-leaning party due to the actions of the right-leaning Independent Democratic Union party in Chile in the 1970's or the Nationalists in Spain in the 1940's.

/there was another right-leaning European party in the 1940's that wasn't particularly spiffy, but people tend to dislike comparisons to it

uh... Go look up what party the President of France belongs to, or... oh, I see what you did there. 8/10. I bit. Good job.

DarwiOdrade: Gunther: Hunter_Worthington: I was thinking more inline with 1960's British Labour Party, or 1980's French Socialist Party policies, but please, continue attacking your straw men if it helps you get up in time to catch the school bus in the morning.

The post you made that irritated everyone implied that all left-leaning parties were disastrous, not just a couple of obscure, far-left foreign parties from several decades ago. If that's the standard you're using, we should avoid electing any right-leaning party due to the actions of the right-leaning Independent Democratic Union party in Chile in the 1970's or the Nationalists in Spain in the 1940's.

/there was another right-leaning European party in the 1940's that wasn't particularly spiffy, but people tend to dislike comparisons to it

Ahem....

Login: Hunter_Worthington
Account created: 2012-10-28 17:28:40

Yep. I created my account yesterday. Your screen name is a woman who dies before the end of Chapter House: Dune, and the Half-Blood Prince was the best Harry Potter book.

Do you have a point ...


Troll = troll. That was the prior poster's point. You know your way around trolling the FARK politics threads, so you've been around... thus the ALT. Whatsamatter? Don't want to stain your primary account? Or are you too ignored on that one?
 
2012-10-29 10:51:41 PM

Arcturus72: Ctrl-Alt-Delete


I'm sorry.

My $0.02:

Dinosaur Comics
Freefall
Girl Genius
OOTS
Something*Positive
VG Cats
SMBC
xkcd
 
2012-10-29 10:52:28 PM

Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.


The ratings are not based on absolute ideology, but on a strictly comparative statistical basis. This is explained in the chart.
 
2012-10-29 10:55:37 PM

eiger: I really wanted to like this, but just couldn't. Trying to force everything into a left/right dichotomy just doesn't work for many historical parties. Were the Republicans a right or left party when their main plank was opposition to slavery? What about the Whigs? Their main policy was federal support for the economy. Is that left or right? What about their opponents the Democrats. They were definitely populists and wanted to keep the government out of people's personal lives. Is that right or left? It seems like it would depend on what was going on at the time. Right/left just confuses the issue.

Beyond that, the graph, as drawn is virtually indecipherable. I couldn't make heads or tails of what it was supposed to mean.


The ratings are not based on absolute ideology, but on a strictly comparative statistical basis. This is explained in the chart.
 
2012-10-29 10:56:24 PM

JohnnyApocalypse: ... Troll = troll. That was the prior poster's point. You know your way around trolling the FARK politics threads, so you've been around... thus the ALT. Whatsamatter? Don't want to stain your primary account? Or are you too ignored on that one?


I wasn't trolling, I was stating a different view point, an opinion, if you will.

You sir, are too visible a troll. 0/10. Go patter around the Daily Kos or whatever bridge your kind lodge under.
 
2012-10-29 11:00:18 PM

wickedragon: Hunter_Worthington: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

Do yourself a favor, read a history book, and be grateful we haven't had a "left leaning party in this country in decades".
I think the US could really, really benefit from som modern "leaft leaning politics".
better job security, modern taxation systems, free health care for everyone, free education system. Lifting up the weakest parts of society is cheaper than lifting up the already rich parts of society, and it also lowers crime, creates a feeling safety both for personal economy and physical well being and thusly increases productivity. Which also makes a large portion of society happier.

So, yay scandinavian socialism!


Nobody knows whether Scandinavian Socialism will work on some of the ethnic groups in America's current lower class.

Scandinavian countries have nearly homogenously white populations.
 
2012-10-29 11:52:04 PM

Breathe Laugh Twitch: Nobody knows whether Scandinavian Socialism will work on some of the ethnic groups in America's current lower class.

Scandinavian countries have nearly homogenously white populations.


Racist claptrap.
 
2012-10-30 12:21:53 AM
An entirely absurd linear political spectrum.
 
2012-10-30 12:37:45 AM

Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.


You realize that left and right are relative terms and not absolute ones, in politics as well as actual physical orienteering, right? Because I'd rather believe you're trolling than that you're actually as stupid as this post indicates.
 
2012-10-30 01:29:23 AM

Emposter: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

Came to say this, except I was gonna point out that the chart has significant amounts of not just left leaning, but FAR left leaning. WTF? When's the last time we had more far left Senators than I can count on one hand, after picking up a grenade with the pin already pulled, or many more Congresspersons?


The ratings.. O Jesus, people, just READ it, wilya? Sheesh!
 
2012-10-30 01:31:03 AM

The Flexecutioner: RoyBatty: The Flexecutioner: read the legend. it is easily understood if you choose to. or attack others for your having not done so.

Yeah, sorry, no.

I don't have to read the legend. The graph is shiat. When it is small it is too small. When it is large it is too large.

The best infographics should be self explanatory and not require nuanced readings of the legend to figure out what the lines mean.

or attack others for your having not done so.

Where have I attacked anyone?

Sorry if you feel my criticism of the chart hurts your ability to get to the gym in 26 minutes. For you, I have xkcd.com/386

oh sorry. let me clarify. not ever graphic has to be catered to the lowest common denominator. when i was in grade school i was taught when reading maps to first look at the legend so that i knew what stuff meant. i guess it was generational to be taught better.


You've got to cut Roy some slack. He's a little slow, and not quite right.
 
2012-10-30 01:51:11 AM

un4gvn666: Anyone else notice just how massive the far-right portion of the House membership is at this point? Nearly as large a proportion as we've had since the time of the Federalists. That certainly puts things in perspective a bit.


Because of how the metrics work (explained in the chart), what it more represents is an increasingly consistent pattern of voting on that side of the aisle, compared to earlier, and a narrower range of vote diversion. Viewed from the more subjective historical perspective, this is the predictable consequence of repeated and ongoing faith purges within the GOP, as well as those due to more inflexible factions such as the Tea Party from without. Moderates are being driven out, and that has had the tendency to diminish the centrist wing of the party, while increasing the proportions of comparative right and far-right factions.
 
2012-10-30 01:56:17 AM

MisterRonbo: Why Would I Read the Article: MisterRonbo: Many, many right wing sites I've seen claim Democrats took the Senate in "2006" and the recession started in "2008", in an attempt to put some daylight between Republicans controlling the White House, the House of Rep.s, and the Senate, and the start of the recession.

Citation needed.

Rep. Virginia Foxx "The economy began its nose dive when Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007."

A typical conservative blog, there are dozens claiming Democrats caused the recession and Republicans tried to stop it


No collection of blame-the-Dems derp would be complete without an entry from Red State, where Democrats, primarily, caused the recession and prevent a real recovery


Then there are the ones who love to blame Barney Frank for single-handedly causing the recession (cause teh ghey) Rave this if you know the Democrats caused the 2008 recession!


Some admit the recession started in 2007, but its still all the fault of you know who: Ultimately, it appears that Democrats and their progressive policies are mostly to blame for The Great Recession of 2007-08.

And it continues, a letter to the editor published yesterday: Blame Dems back to Clinton for recession

These examples were all drawn from the very first page of google results I got on a search: democrats created recession started 2008


REPUTABLE citation needed, you pinhead. I could pull up a thousand hits purporting to prove that Reptile Armstrong never walked on the Moon, because Bilderberger or whatever horseshiat happens to smell not quite bad enough today. You know better. You do, don't you?
 
2012-10-30 01:57:53 AM

phaseolus: RoyBatty: The best infographics should be self explanatory and not require nuanced readings of the legend to figure out what the lines mean.


"Stuff is HARD!" *sniff!* "It's not FAIR!"
 
2012-10-30 02:02:11 AM

JesseL: Duh. That's why tracing some sort of ideological continuity through 200+ years is an odd exercise.


It doesn't. This is explained in the chart. That apparenly only about four of us bothered to read.
 
2012-10-30 02:20:45 AM

schnee: /this is why voting against incumbents is a good idea


I agree. I don't do it as a matter of course, in that anything done out of course can easily become its own twisted ideology (as most are), but I do always ask who seems most appropriate *right now*. I weigh records, but as part of the larger metric, and rarely on only one or two factors.

What really annoys me is that the faith purges in the GOP are leaving fewer and fewer Republicans of good character and level heads who non-Republicans feel they can vote for, and that's bad for everyone. It's probably the biggest reason that loser Democrats can hold on to their seats, or get elected in the first place: If you're a voter, and your other choice is Teabagger McCrazypants, you'll hold your nose and vote for Loser l'Arugula instead. I know I'm planning to next week, and it kills me. Thanks, GOP, for giving us so few good alternatives anymore. The irony being that it's really the GOP's doing that's bolstering the Democrats in our time.
 
2012-10-30 02:22:33 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Well, I like xkcd, so I don't really fit. Bearing that in mind:

Girl Genius
Goblins
Problem Sleuth (I enjoy Homestuck as well, but, uh... it's a hard thing to get into at this point, to say the least)
Sinfest
Basic Instructions
Bob the Angry Flower

All great comics. I also like Penny Arcade but, uh, no one needs a LINK to that.


I love a lot of those, and from your endorsement I intend to check out the rest. When I first found Basic Instructions, I read it for hours and nearly peed myself laughing.
 
2012-10-30 02:29:54 AM

Jesda: An entirely absurd linear political spectrum.


You know, if you've got something to say, I've found that verbs can help a lot, especially when used in sentences.
 
2012-10-30 02:34:06 AM
Looks like flood protection has failed all over.
 
2012-10-30 03:49:04 AM

kiwichan: I'm amused by how many people immediately rejected the infographic because "left and right is overly simplified" without any of them discovering what the "left-right" variable actually represents.


Or complained that they couldn't make sense of all the wavy lines when there's a clearly descriptive legend/explanation in the corner.
 
2012-10-30 07:28:23 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: phaseolus: RoyBatty: The best infographics should be self explanatory and not require nuanced readings of the legend to figure out what the lines mean.

"Stuff is HARD!" *sniff!* "It's not FAIR!"



No. Things that are a big hot mess aren't as effective as things that aren't. Ever hear of Edward Tufte? His book "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" has a way of rubbing off on you after you've read it.

Go to the library and borrow a copy, it's gorgeous just to flip through.
 
2012-10-30 07:55:50 AM

HeartBurnKid: Tommy Moo: Still not as bad as the one that bashed Idiocracy with nothing but ad hominem and hand-waving.

Idiocracy, itself, is nothing but ad hominem and hand-waving.

/I enjoyed the movie
//I despise the people who take its premise overly seriously


Mike Judge doesn't have the pretense of a scientist. He had the artistic liberty to make asinine hyperbole. xkcd posts every comic with high-minded hubris. They responded to a bunch of legitimate concerns by claiming that evolution isn't true or that intelligence is not correlated with any heritable trait and then calling everyone a moron without citing a single study. The creator certainly tried, but wen he couldn't find any studies to support his position, not even to cherry pick, he decided "Fark it," and posted it anyway.
 
2012-10-30 08:00:24 AM

fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.


imgs.xkcd.com

would like a word with you...
 
2012-10-30 08:12:09 AM

phaseolus: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: phaseolus: RoyBatty: The best infographics should be self explanatory and not require nuanced readings of the legend to figure out what the lines mean.

"Stuff is HARD!" *sniff!* "It's not FAIR!"


No. Things that are a big hot mess aren't as effective as things that aren't. Ever hear of Edward Tufte? His book "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" has a way of rubbing off on you after you've read it.

Go to the library and borrow a copy, it's gorgeous just to flip through.


Will do. Also, check out Hans Rosling on TED.
 
2012-10-30 08:39:03 AM

LoneWolf343: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

That's the problem I had with it too. There was a time where the Republican party was the liberal one.


No, I don't think so. Although I also think it's possible to be socially progressive while still being fiscally conservative (Teddy Roosevelt). The thing is, you get much better results if you're also fiscally liberal (FDR).
 
2012-10-30 08:40:33 AM

schnee: Legislative Durations (Rep v Dem):

For the House
[farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x128]
(pops to really big size)

For the Senate
[farm5.staticflickr.com image 640x128]
(pops to really big size)

back story

/this is why voting against incumbents is a good idea


.....wow, I didn't know there were Republicans in 1800.
 
2012-10-30 08:46:04 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Tired_of_the_BS: The only one I've heard of still operating is called the Kasama Project (pretty much my sum total of knowledge on them, sorry).

I have comrades involved in Kasama. There is a far left in this country, and in some ways we're in better shape now than we were back in those days because the infighting, while still kinda bad, isn't nearly as disastrous as it was back then. Anarchists and communists mostly get along now, at least as far as working together on projects of common interest.


I would guess (not an expert) that this is because they know that neither major party is in any way going to serve their interests, even if they somehow get a majority of national support. And if they do get that support, they probably can't afford losing it on meaningless acts of terrorism.
 
2012-10-30 09:30:57 AM

IlGreven: LoneWolf343: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

That's the problem I had with it too. There was a time where the Republican party was the liberal one.

No, I don't think so. Although I also think it's possible to be socially progressive while still being fiscally conservative (Teddy Roosevelt). The thing is, you get much better results if you're also fiscally liberal (FDR).


So, you would say that the party that wanted to keep slavery was the liberal one?
 
2012-10-30 09:42:20 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Well, I like xkcd, so I don't really fit. Bearing that in mind:

Girl Genius
Goblins
Problem Sleuth (I enjoy Homestuck as well, but, uh... it's a hard thing to get into at this point, to say the least)
Sinfest
Basic Instructions
Bob the Angry Flower

All great comics. I also like Penny Arcade but, uh, no one needs a LINK to that.


Bob the Angry Flower used to be great, but its quality really dropped off a cliff a couple years ago. I think it was about the same time that the writer got a new job at a game company.
 
2012-10-30 10:00:20 AM

phaseolus: No. Things that are a big hot mess aren't as effective as things that aren't. Ever hear of Edward Tufte? His book "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" has a way of rubbing off on you after you've read it.

Go to the library and borrow a copy, it's gorgeous just to flip through.


That sounds like a pretty good book. Jotting it down now.
 
2012-10-30 10:03:41 AM

LoneWolf343: IlGreven: LoneWolf343: Twigz221: That chart is horribly inaccurate. it has left leaning parties represented in modern times. We haven't had a left leaning party in this country in decades. Just right, and really far right.

That's the problem I had with it too. There was a time where the Republican party was the liberal one.

No, I don't think so. Although I also think it's possible to be socially progressive while still being fiscally conservative (Teddy Roosevelt). The thing is, you get much better results if you're also fiscally liberal (FDR).

So, you would say that the party that wanted to keep slavery was the liberal one?


The ratings are not based on absolute ideology, but on strictly comparative statistical commonality. This is explained in the chart. -or- RTFC, people. It doesn't mean what you assume it does.

/I should just make a macro of this. I sound like a broken record.
 
2012-10-30 10:17:25 AM

IlGreven: .....wow, I didn't know there were Republicans in 1800.


Pretty sure those Republicans don't have much in common with the 'Party of Lincoln', due to the big gap between them.

farm5.staticflickr.com

(embiggen)

shows the Senate, with "Other" colored in black.
 
2012-10-30 11:02:06 AM

phaseolus: No. Things that are a big hot mess aren't as effective as things that aren't. Ever hear of Edward Tufte? His book "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" has a way of rubbing off on you after you've read it.


I don't think that the chart violates Tufte's ideas. In fact he was a fan of packing a ton of complex info into a small package. Some great charts can be accessed quickly but he even gives some quite complex &take a little while to decipher examples in his books, which I agree, are fantastic.
 
2012-10-30 11:03:23 AM

Dammit-Hi: he was is a fan


Look at me pronouncing the man dead & all.
 
2012-10-30 11:45:23 AM
Also, I would like to mention:

The Perry Bible Fellowship

Because it is an awesome webcomic. Some of it may be NSFW, but the humor is outlandish and very well done.
 
2012-10-30 12:53:31 PM

Esc7: Shazam999: Yeah I know it's horrible but it seems that he makes a ton off the comic so I'm not really sympathetic to him.

Ehhhh...for what values of "ton" are you referring too? He probably makes way more than your average webcartoonist but that's not saying much. Honestly I don't know how any anyone of these guys makes a living anyway. All my favorite webcomics claim to be self sufficient and it consistently boggles my mind. Especially in America where that profession would preclude healthcare and an ever shrinking societal safety net. You'd have to be mad.


I figure he pulls in at least $150K. I'm thinking more around $250K to be realistic. Jeff Atwood's stupid programming blog let him quit his job, since it was far outstripping what he was earning.

A popular blog makes a living. My wife reads a ton of homemaker blogs, and the biatches make more than their husbands oftentimes.
 
2012-10-30 01:03:30 PM

Esc7: Shazam999: Yeah I know it's horrible but it seems that he makes a ton off the comic so I'm not really sympathetic to him.

Ehhhh...for what values of "ton" are you referring too? He probably makes way more than your average webcartoonist but that's not saying much. Honestly I don't know how any anyone of these guys makes a living anyway. All my favorite webcomics claim to be self sufficient and it consistently boggles my mind. Especially in America where that profession would preclude healthcare and an ever shrinking societal safety net. You'd have to be mad.


Oh yeah, I should also mention this one blog that my wife reads about this couple that blogs about their home renovation that pulled in so much money they both quit their jobs and now just write about their home reno. 

Link
 
2012-10-30 05:08:10 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Oglaf (very NSFW).


Heh, I DO like Oglaf.

But it's a complement to, rather than superior to, XKCD, in my book.
 
2012-10-30 05:09:06 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: PunGent: fracas: I farking hate xkcd. Cheap, trite, pseudo-intellectual tripe. A badly-line-drawn bauble for wannabe sperglords.

Same challenge for you as for the other xkcd haters...link us a better we comic.

None of them stepped up last time we had one of these threads, so the bar's pretty low...

Well, I like xkcd, so I don't really fit. Bearing that in mind:

Girl Genius
Goblins
Problem Sleuth (I enjoy Homestuck as well, but, uh... it's a hard thing to get into at this point, to say the least)
Sinfest
Basic Instructions
Bob the Angry Flower

All great comics. I also like Penny Arcade but, uh, no one needs a LINK to that.


Thanks, couple new ones in there for me.
 
2012-10-31 10:03:15 AM

PunGent: Heh, I DO like Oglaf.


Having just taken a look at Oglaf, I have to say that Sexy Losers was much much funnier.
 
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