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2012-10-29 03:28:13 PM
but 26 minutes is ok???
 
2012-10-29 03:28:30 PM
What on Earth will they ever do with that extra minute?
 
2012-10-29 03:29:05 PM
**shakes tiny fist at silo123j**
 
2012-10-29 03:35:43 PM
I heard some young woman picking on her mom at the bar, yesterday. Kid was 21, mom was in her 50s. I finally blurted out "Nobody wants to grow old". Then went back to my vodak seven breakfast.
 
2012-10-29 03:40:37 PM
If you exercise, it will make you smart enough to realize that you shouldn't sit in front of the television all evening eating fatty, overly-salted, processed foods.
 
2012-10-29 04:24:01 PM
gonna get there 1 minute early, huh?
 
2012-10-29 05:24:19 PM

silo123j: but 26 minutes is ok???


I'm gonna guess that 26 minutes is ok since it seems to be working for me.
 
2012-10-29 05:51:28 PM

cmunic8r99: What on Earth will they ever do with that extra minute?


Masturbate furiously?
 
2012-10-29 06:17:13 PM
Well, I'm getting better at exercising as I'm getting older. I used to be only half hearted in the gym in college, never really tracked things that well. Then I really didn't exercise for about four years. Then I almost had a spa dropped on me where I had to say "I'm not as strong as I look".

Now it's two years later and I'm finally getting the hang of things, I'm 33 and I'm at least as strong as I look. Now to look stronger and drop some fat.
 
2012-10-29 06:18:06 PM
This article strokes my confirmation bias.
 
2012-10-29 06:19:43 PM
my body fat is 34% and rising.
 
2012-10-29 06:20:13 PM
For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.
 
2012-10-29 06:24:11 PM
I am pushing 300 elbows, and hope to be 350 by end of Thanksgiving festivities. I need to pack in on so that I can not freeze this winter. And then, the extra weight is really helpful in pushing off my rivals during rut.
 
2012-10-29 06:34:10 PM

wildcardjack: Well, I'm getting better at exercising as I'm getting older. I used to be only half hearted in the gym in college, never really tracked things that well. Then I really didn't exercise for about four years. Then I almost had a spa dropped on me where I had to say "I'm not as strong as I look".

Now it's two years later and I'm finally getting the hang of things, I'm 33 and I'm at least as strong as I look. Now to look stronger and drop some fat.


Good job. Seems the same for me, I started when I was 38 (41 now) and the gains are great. Went from flab and no upper body strength to fairly lean and lots of pull ups, and heavy bench and dead lifts. I think if a person doesn't love working out and lacks a basic plan, he will probably never stick with it.
 
2012-10-29 06:37:37 PM

SevenizGud: I am pushing 300 elbows, and hope to be 350 by end of Thanksgiving festivities. I need to pack in on so that I can not freeze this winter. And then, the extra weight is really helpful in pushing off my rivals during rut.


i don't know what that means. but hopefully you are lifting 300 lbs and not weighing 300 lbs. i HOPE.

can bench 50 lbs
 
2012-10-29 06:43:41 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Does furious masturbation count?
 
2012-10-29 06:50:36 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: i don't know what that means. but hopefully you are lifting 300 lbs and not weighing 300 lbs. i HOPE.


I am just a hair shy of 6' 10", so that weight is actually nearly height-proportional for my bone structure.
 
2012-10-29 06:50:36 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


There are only 113 actual humans who use this site. All the rest are just alts.
And 72 of those 113 are just lurkers.
So all the content you read on here is (for the most part) generated b just 41 actual people.

And now you know why there are so few divergent opinions on FARK.
 
2012-10-29 06:52:17 PM

SevenizGud: Jon iz teh kewl: i don't know what that means. but hopefully you are lifting 300 lbs and not weighing 300 lbs. i HOPE.

I am just a hair shy of 6' 10", so that weight is actually nearly height-proportional for my bone structure.


oh that makes sense! just like jay cutler
 
2012-10-29 06:54:48 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: SevenizGud: I am pushing 300 elbows, and hope to be 350 by end of Thanksgiving festivities. I need to pack in on so that I can not freeze this winter. And then, the extra weight is really helpful in pushing off my rivals during rut.

i don't know what that means. but hopefully you are lifting 300 lbs and not weighing 300 lbs. i HOPE.

can bench 50 lbs


Nobody can eat bench fifty eggs lbs.
 
2012-10-29 06:55:58 PM

SevenizGud: Jon iz teh kewl: i don't know what that means. but hopefully you are lifting 300 lbs and not weighing 300 lbs. i HOPE.

I am just a hair shy of 6' 10", so that weight is actually nearly height-proportional for my bone structure.


6'10"? Good god. Are you in sport? Bounce-ball?
 
2012-10-29 07:02:17 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Sweet, I'll sign up tonight. I'm a pretty serious gym rat, especially since it's now becoming too cold outside to ride my bike and/or run.
 
2012-10-29 07:04:56 PM
It's go time.

Mandelbrain! Mandelbrain! Mandelbrain!
 
2012-10-29 07:18:15 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Okay, what would I gain out of Fitocracy? It doesn't seem to actually say much about what it does on the website.
 
2012-10-29 07:19:09 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Make that 81
 
2012-10-29 07:30:02 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Yeah, I totally fell off the wagon. Stupid work travel and stuff. I swear I'll get back to it and keep it up soonish.
 
2012-10-29 07:33:46 PM

silo123j: but 26 minutes is ok???


A-holes are a bit slower today on account of the weather.
 
2012-10-29 07:36:28 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Doesn't surprise me at all especially considering the number of posters that write shiat like "I'm fit!" and then I look at their profile pictures and it's clear they need to lose at least twenty pounds.
 
2012-10-29 07:56:03 PM

Shazam999: Doesn't surprise me at all especially considering the number of posters that write shiat like "I'm fit!" and then I look at their profile pictures and it's clear they need to lose at least twenty pounds.


What makes you think that their profile pictures are of them?
 
2012-10-29 08:01:44 PM
Something something normalized hormones something something.
 
2012-10-29 08:08:03 PM

theMagni: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Okay, what would I gain out of Fitocracy? It doesn't seem to actually say much about what it does on the website.


It is a great way to track, set goals and talk to other people interested in the same fitness goals. They award points for working out so you "level up" if you keep with it and there are quest achievements for certain goals. If you run/cycle it also has runkeeper integration which is nice.
 
2012-10-29 08:16:28 PM
I'm starting to exercise again after a stress-induced downward-spiral hiatus. My basics are doing at least 75 pushups (girlie pushups for now) and 75 situps (full situps, not crunches) a day, and either running or biking for 30 minutes a day (and gradually building either speed or time, haven't decided yet).

Sadly the running is on a treadmill and the biking is on my stationary trainer but it's better than nothing. Once I get comfortable doing 75 girlie pushups hopefully in a row, I'll switch to manly pushups, and then I'll switch to doing it for time instead of reps.

But I'd be happy for any suggestions from the pros out there :-) I want to lose weight, but I'd also just like to be strong / maintain strength, and I figure the full-body things like pushups and real situps are good. I'm not inclined to do squats and lunges at this point because as a lady my legs are already hella bulky and I figure the running and biking are taking care of my legs pretty well.
 
2012-10-29 08:33:59 PM

Carth: theMagni: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Okay, what would I gain out of Fitocracy? It doesn't seem to actually say much about what it does on the website.

It is a great way to track, set goals and talk to other people interested in the same fitness goals. They award points for working out so you "level up" if you keep with it and there are quest achievements for certain goals. If you run/cycle it also has runkeeper integration which is nice.


Its a neat concept and all, but as PA so eloquently depicted...
25.media.tumblr.com
There's certain issues with that method.
 
2012-10-29 09:01:29 PM

pivazena: I'm starting to exercise again after a stress-induced downward-spiral hiatus. My basics are doing at least 75 pushups (girlie pushups for now) and 75 situps (full situps, not crunches) a day, and either running or biking for 30 minutes a day (and gradually building either speed or time, haven't decided yet).

Sadly the running is on a treadmill and the biking is on my stationary trainer but it's better than nothing. Once I get comfortable doing 75 girlie pushups hopefully in a row, I'll switch to manly pushups, and then I'll switch to doing it for time instead of reps.

But I'd be happy for any suggestions from the pros out there :-) I want to lose weight, but I'd also just like to be strong / maintain strength, and I figure the full-body things like pushups and real situps are good. I'm not inclined to do squats and lunges at this point because as a lady my legs are already hella bulky and I figure the running and biking are taking care of my legs pretty well.


Rather than do pushups from your knees, do them with your hands elevated (bench or table) with your back flat. You'll maintain good form and use the same muscles as a "real" pushup, but the elevation will make them easier.
 
2012-10-29 09:11:11 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


There are now 88 including me.

Unfortunately, most of their strength achievements are dumbbell/weight oriented when I do body-weight exercises.
 
2012-10-29 09:26:18 PM

pivazena: Once I get comfortable doing 75 girlie pushups hopefully in a row, I'll switch to manly pushups, and then I'll switch to doing it for time instead of reps.


Do the hundred! (^) :D

I've done this, though in reality it took me 9 weeks, as I repeated a few weeks when I didn't feel like I was ready to move on. It's a structured training program that will build up both strength and upper body endurance. Having the structured schedule with periodic checks to see where you are really makes it a lot easier to stick to.

Just a suggestion. There are similar programs for situps, dips, squats, and pullups. :)
 
2012-10-29 09:27:17 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Yeah, I totally fell off the wagon. Stupid work travel and stuff. I swear I'll get back to it and keep it up soonish.


So much this. Life definitely can get in the way.

Beginning of the year bought a elliptical and got the P90X routine. Was doing great in the spring, lost 30 lbs (still need to lose 60). Then had my first son in June and since then it has been impossible to carve out an hour in the day to get back into it. I am now just stuck at 270 and it is annoying (6'2", so way more weight than I need to carry) . Hopefully he will start sleeping thru the night and get to a point where my wife and I don't have to hold him/watch him all the time. Hard to get up and workout at 6am before work when you went to bed at 2-3am. I actually got on the elliptical for 30 minutes last week once after work, haven't been able to repeat that yet.
 
2012-10-29 09:28:52 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Done.
 
2012-10-29 09:38:00 PM
16oz curls.
 
2012-10-29 09:58:35 PM
I've started interval training. One minute of total effort followed by 3-4 minutes of cool down, repeat for 30 minutes 3-4 times a week and add in some weight training and cramps, planks etc for the core.

I've got into far better shape than just doing 30 minutes of high-moderate effort.
 
2012-10-29 10:11:30 PM
When I started weightlifting, I was really surprised at how nice and thoughtful people who lift are. I was expecting the sort of stereotypical Jersey-boys, but most people at the gym who are serious about it are nice, friendly, willing to help, and are fairly well-researched on the subject. There's always the exceptions, but they're just that.

Of course, subby would have to his fat arse off the couch and dust off his cheeto-stained fingers to know this.
 
2012-10-29 10:12:28 PM

whatshisname: I've started interval training. One minute of total effort followed by 3-4 minutes of cool down, repeat for 30 minutes 3-4 times a week and add in some weight training and cramps, planks etc for the core.

I've got into far better shape than just doing 30 minutes of high-moderate effort.


Have you considered doing Tabata protocol? You can get the benefits of interval training in during a much shorter time.
 
2012-10-29 10:22:13 PM

Kit Fister: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Does furious masturbation count?


Only if you split the infinitive.
 
2012-10-29 10:28:22 PM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Not a gym rat, but consider me joined. On a bike or in a dojo are where I get my exercise.
 
2012-10-29 10:33:08 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Have you considered doing Tabata protocol?


Haven't heard of it, but I'll look it up. Thanks!
 
2012-10-29 10:40:05 PM

Vitamin Pb: And now you know why there are so few divergent opinions on FARK.


Yes, NONE. Freaking echo chamber. That's why you can tune in here 24 hours a day and watch people arguing.
 
2012-10-29 10:41:26 PM

theMagni: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Okay, what would I gain out of Fitocracy? It doesn't seem to actually say much about what it does on the website.


Is it like Team Beachbody website? Do they have Brazilian Butt Lift LOL. I used to run five miles a day, need to get back to that.
 
2012-10-29 10:42:48 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: When I started weightlifting, I was really surprised at how nice and thoughtful people who lift are. I was expecting the sort of stereotypical Jersey-boys, but most people at the gym who are serious about it are nice, friendly, willing to help, and are fairly well-researched on the subject. There's always the exceptions, but they're just that.

Of course, subby would have to his fat arse off the couch and dust off his cheeto-stained fingers to know this.


Depends on the town/location. When I travel to military towns the gyms are full of the stereotype.
 
2012-10-29 10:43:58 PM
 
2012-10-29 10:47:24 PM

Genju: Depends on the town/location. When I travel to military towns the gyms are full of the stereotype.


Ah, yeah, that makes sense. Most of the gyms I've gone to have been in college towns, which might skew my sample.
 
2012-10-29 11:06:41 PM
I started powerlifting at 30. I'm 31, and I benched 350 and squatted 475 last week. Hope to bench 4 and squat 5 by the end of the year.
 
2012-10-29 11:58:11 PM
"We worked with six adults

What type of sample pool is that??!!

I could prove Liberals are right with that small a sample pool.

At least Trident gum uses 10 dentists.
 
2012-10-29 11:58:16 PM

pivazena: But I'd be happy for any suggestions from the pros out there :-) I want to lose weight, but I'd also just like to be strong / maintain strength, and I figure the full-body things like pushups and real situps are good. I'm not inclined to do squats and lunges at this point because as a lady my legs are already hella bulky and I figure the running and biking are taking care of my legs pretty well.


Good on you.

Weight training is good for everyone. Appropriate weight training (5x1 or 5, 3, 1) won't bulk you up. It will give you better definition and shape.

Cardio is also good for everyone who's in the moderately healthy or better bucket as well. Aim for a BPM in the 130-150 range and you should be burning mostly fat. That doesn't mean that doing so will really help with fat loss at all. Most of what doing cardio will accomplish for you is to make your metabolism actually healthy and capable of switching back and forth between a glycogen and a triglyceride based energy system.

According to at least some of the current research, adding a sprint session once a week or so will help out a lot as well.

80+% of weight loss is diet.

Eat real food, mostly plants (by volume.) The not too much will take care of itself if you do that.

Real food is pretty much anything you can go out into a field and pick/hunt and eat. Grains are not in that category. Grass seeds are almost inedible until you process them. Certainly they are less appetizing than a ribeye or a banana.
 
2012-10-30 12:45:38 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I started powerlifting at 30. I'm 31, and I benched 350 and squatted 475 last week. Hope to bench 4 and squat 5 by the end of the year.


I started lifting for football in junior high. Only got to around 300 / 400 by the end of high school. I blame the low bench on being a very tall person with long arms. I was 6'4" and around 300 lbs. 11 years later, the heaviest dumbbell I lift is a 30 in each hand. But, I do sets of 13. On major muscle groups I do 6 sets of 13. Minor usually 6 sets of 10 with lower weight. I also run 5 miles every other night. Went from that football size to being 6'4" and 190 lbs. It's not like I needed the big body anymore. I rather like my slender tight muscle build now.

/the gym. I can be there any time. It all fits easily in my closet and takes 5 minutes to set up.
 
2012-10-30 12:50:27 AM

Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.


Thanks for cluing me in. I joined. I may not stay. It seems like a pain in the ass to log your workouts. Still...'zup?
 
2012-10-30 04:22:25 AM

pivazena: I'm starting to exercise again after a stress-induced downward-spiral hiatus. My basics are doing at least 75 pushups (girlie pushups for now) and 75 situps (full situps, not crunches) a day, and either running or biking for 30 minutes a day (and gradually building either speed or time, haven't decided yet).

Sadly the running is on a treadmill and the biking is on my stationary trainer but it's better than nothing. Once I get comfortable doing 75 girlie pushups hopefully in a row, I'll switch to manly pushups, and then I'll switch to doing it for time instead of reps.

But I'd be happy for any suggestions from the pros out there :-) I want to lose weight, but I'd also just like to be strong / maintain strength, and I figure the full-body things like pushups and real situps are good. I'm not inclined to do squats and lunges at this point because as a lady my legs are already hella bulky and I figure the running and biking are taking care of my legs pretty well.


Losing weight and getting in shape are two different things. Changing your diet has far more effect on your weight than exercise does. Case in point - anorexics. They're thin, but they are most definitely not in shape. Also, if you're working on strength, you might get smaller but not a lot lighter, since muscle weighs more than fat.
 
2012-10-30 05:34:41 AM

Fuggin Bizzy: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Thanks for cluing me in. I joined. I may not stay. It seems like a pain in the ass to log your workouts. Still...'zup?


If you have a smartphone of the andriod/iOS variety they have an app that lets you log it right when you workout. I find it easier to do that than when I get home and forget what I did. Also gives you something to do between sets and serves as a good conversation starter with other people.
 
2012-10-30 06:11:54 AM

Warrener: pivazena: But I'd be happy for any suggestions from the pros out there :-) I want to lose weight, but I'd also just like to be strong / maintain strength, and I figure the full-body things like pushups and real situps are good. I'm not inclined to do squats and lunges at this point because as a lady my legs are already hella bulky and I figure the running and biking are taking care of my legs pretty well.

Good on you.

Weight training is good for everyone. Appropriate weight training (5x1 or 5, 3, 1) won't bulk you up. It will give you better definition and shape.

Cardio is also good for everyone who's in the moderately healthy or better bucket as well. Aim for a BPM in the 130-150 range and you should be burning mostly fat. That doesn't mean that doing so will really help with fat loss at all. Most of what doing cardio will accomplish for you is to make your metabolism actually healthy and capable of switching back and forth between a glycogen and a triglyceride based energy system.

According to at least some of the current research, adding a sprint session once a week or so will help out a lot as well.

80+% of weight loss is diet.

Eat real food, mostly plants (by volume.) The not too much will take care of itself if you do that.

Real food is pretty much anything you can go out into a field and pick/hunt and eat. Grains are not in that category. Grass seeds are almost inedible until you process them. Certainly they are less appetizing than a ribeye or a banana.


A thousand times this. A lot of people end up gaining weight when they start exercising because their metabolism ramps up and they eat crap. If you don't control your diet, you could end up a strong fatty.

99% of women cannot bulk up so you shouldn't worry about that. Strength training is good for women because it also strengthens bones which helps fight off osteoporosis.
 
2012-10-30 06:12:32 AM

Carth: Fuggin Bizzy: Carth: For farkers who go to the gym sign up on Fitocracy. There are only 80 members in the Fit as Fark group and i know there must be more than 80 people who workout here.

Thanks for cluing me in. I joined. I may not stay. It seems like a pain in the ass to log your workouts. Still...'zup?

If you have a smartphone of the andriod/iOS variety they have an app that lets you log it right when you workout. I find it easier to do that than when I get home and forget what I did. Also gives you something to do between sets and serves as a good conversation starter with other people.


Ah, now this is something that appeals, I use my phone to play rage against the machine (on headphones) when I am at the gym so this would make it easy to add my workout.

"fark you I won`t lift what you tell me!"
"no more pies!"
"if you`re lifting nothing now, you`ll be lifting nothing later!"
"Cycletrack!"

/why yes, I make up my own words
 
2012-10-30 08:19:11 AM
Thanks for comments everybody! I should have added in my post, I am very much watching what I eat and in the exact way everybody recommended-- keep calories in mind, but in doing so making sure that I'm eating "whole" foods as much as possible and staying away from simple carbs and crappy processed food with 400 ingredients I can't pronounce.

I'll return for next month's obligatory fitness thread to report progress
 
2012-10-30 11:04:34 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Shazam999: Doesn't surprise me at all especially considering the number of posters that write shiat like "I'm fit!" and then I look at their profile pictures and it's clear they need to lose at least twenty pounds.

What makes you think that their profile pictures are of them?


What makes you think they aren't?
 
2012-10-30 03:42:59 PM
I've been going to a gym for a few months now and have 2 observations:
1. What's with the dudes who always bring their gym buddies along with them? Puts out a strong homoerotic vibe.
2. My balls won't put up with stationary bikes for more than 12 minutes. I get a better workout on those elliptical things anyway.
 
2012-10-30 04:20:55 PM

browntimmy: I've been going to a gym for a few months now and have 2 observations:
1. What's with the dudes who always bring their gym buddies along with them? Puts out a strong homoerotic vibe.
.


Nah, the real homoerotic vibe comes from the fat old trolls lurking in the showers/ steam room who clearly aren't at the gym to work out.

/the gym is not a bath house
//work out, get in shape, and you might actually get some action
 
2012-10-30 05:43:24 PM

browntimmy: I've been going to a gym for a few months now and have 2 observations:

2. My balls won't put up with stationary bikes for more than 12 minutes. I get a better workout on those elliptical things anyway.


Clench your butt cheeks before you sit down, it's much more comfortable..
 
2012-10-30 06:49:50 PM

VTGremlin: 6'10"? Good god. Are you in sport? Bounce-ball?


Not fast enough. And I am surprisingly fast. And old. Did I mention that I am old?

I suppose I could have been the designated fouler in some league in Turkbeckistania or something. But a guy like Thabo Sefolosha is only giving up 3" to me, and he's probably twice as fast.
 
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