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2012-10-29 04:21:49 PM
It may be a heel move to do, but Ryan really needs to put his foot down and start The Savior.
 
2012-10-29 04:23:09 PM
But what's the alternative? Start that running back that's inexplicably #2 on the QB depth chart?

Either way, you lose games.
 
2012-10-29 04:25:26 PM
And how'd that QB change the fans wanted work out in Kansas City?
 
2012-10-29 04:25:47 PM

StubhyGraham: It may be a heel move to do, but Ryan really needs to put his foot down and start The Savior.


And/Or the defense could, you know, STOP SOMEONE?

/6th most points given up in the league
//Link
 
2012-10-29 04:25:54 PM
Why is this on the main page?

No one gives a shiat about the Jets... and if the announcement isn't that Tebow is start, there are even less farks given.
 
2012-10-29 04:26:19 PM
Whatever..Sanchez is not the answer obviously, but he's the only quarterback on the team. Oh ya, they do have Greg McElroy
 
2012-10-29 04:30:04 PM
Let him go, It's Time, Turn him Loose, Let him play on Sunday.
 
2012-10-29 04:34:48 PM
Possibly the worst run organization in the NFL. People biatch about Jerry, but Woody has all of the micromanaging and none of the knowledge.
 
2012-10-29 04:35:32 PM

Leonard Washington: Let him go, It's Time, Turn him Loose, Let him play on Sunday.


And all he does is win, all he all does is win
 
2012-10-29 04:36:44 PM

Rapmaster2000: Possibly the worst run organization in the NFL. People biatch about Jerry, but Woody has all of the micromanaging and none of the knowledge.


I surmise redskins fans may disagree
 
2012-10-29 04:37:09 PM
Ryan is an idiot. Danny Goodhead ring a bell to you Jets fans?


I'd start Tebow for two reasons--it'd excite the fanbase, and it MAY just motivate the rest of the team.
It sure as hell couldn't hurt.



/Dolphins fan who had a WONDERFUL Sunday
 
2012-10-29 04:37:13 PM
Suck it up and wait for the draft. It's your only hope.
 
2012-10-29 04:37:45 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Why is this on the main page?

No one gives a shiat about the Jets... and if the announcement isn't that Tebow is start, there are even less farks given.


Not only is this not worthy of Main Page, it's the 2nd article on the same subject today.
 
2012-10-29 04:38:04 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed Sunday, and am comfortable with Tannehill rehabing for a few weeks. Matt Moore is a good QB. The Fish are lucky to have two young QBs who could easily start every other game.

The Jets? Not so much. They suck, Rex Ryan sucks. NOW GO GET A GODDAMN SNACK.
 
2012-10-29 04:39:28 PM

Dog Welder: And how'd that QB change the fans wanted work out in Kansas City?


That reminds me: for the rest of the year, I'm not betting on the Chiefs unless I'm getting 14 points or more
 
2012-10-29 04:39:35 PM
The combination of a NY team and Tebow has really become unbearable.

Ooh what will the Jets do? Is it time to start Tebow? Is Sanchez done on NY? Does anyone not a Jet fan actually give a shiat?
 
2012-10-29 04:41:16 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: Why is this on the main page?

No one gives a shiat about the Jets... and if the announcement isn't that Tebow is start, there are even less farks given.


This
 
2012-10-29 04:45:25 PM
ESPN really really really really really wants Tim Tebow to start
 
2012-10-29 04:45:59 PM
Why did they get Tebow again?
 
2012-10-29 04:49:47 PM

Dogfacedgod: Why did they get Tebow again?


Intentionally sabotaging their season. The only thing that makes sense.
 
2012-10-29 04:57:48 PM
FTFA - But Ryan's undying confidence in Sanchez could be his undoing if the coach doesn't learn when to let go. It's like a bad relationship that started off well in the beginning, but the Sanchez-Ryan pairing has gone drastically downhill since.

This reads like sports story MadLibs - But (Insert name of coach who has had some success, but not won a championship)'s undying confidence in (Insert name of key player who has had some success, but not won a championship) could be his undoing if the coach doesn't learn when to let go. It's like a bad relationship that started off well in the beginning, but the (Repeat player's name)-(Repeat coaches name) pairing has gone drastically downhill since.

The same could be said about Norv and Rivers, Reid and Vick, Smith and Ryan, and in 3 years any of the high profile QBs drafted recently like Cam Newton, RGIII, A Luck, and Dalton. That is not saying I am assuming they will fail, just that they will have about 3 years to show progress in winning or they and their coaches/GM will be on the hot seat.
 
2012-10-29 05:03:43 PM
All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.
 
2012-10-29 05:05:03 PM
Mike Tannenbaum deserves far more of the blame than Rex Ryan. After he traded for Tebow, he gave Mark Sanchez an extention, one that guaranteed his salary next season. Sanchez has a cap hit next year of almost $13,000,000 - and thanks to Tannenbaum's "I'm sorry" contract, if they cut him his cap hit becomes $17,000,000. They're stuck with him. Sanchez is staying with the Jets this year and next year, so Rex probably figures he has to stick with him to try to get his career back on track. But that won't probably won't happen because Sanchez farking blows.
 
2012-10-29 05:07:02 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


I didn't realize that Poe's Law could be applied to sports.
 
2012-10-29 05:10:03 PM

garron: Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


They don't? Are you new here or something?
 
2012-10-29 05:11:12 PM

StubhyGraham: It may be a heel move to do, but Ryan really needs to put his foot down and start The Savior.


I see what you did there.

/Should call him Twinkletoes.
 
2012-10-29 05:15:24 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


Or accept the fact that people don't like him because he is a bad QB. Just for example, Troy Polamalu has a cross sewn into his jersey above his name (google it). He is arguably just as devout, yet no hate. Why? Because he's a good player. I'm sure there are many many other players you could cite that are heavily religious and aren't criticised for it.
 
2012-10-29 05:16:02 PM
Jets should bench Mark Sanchez permanently, put Tebow in for media/fans.

Acquire Tony Romo in the off-season as Jason Garrett and Romo are relieved of their respective duties.
 
2012-10-29 05:17:23 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.


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///Also, who actually hates Tim Tebow? I do not think he is a starting caliber QB in the NFL. I also do not agree with his religious and political views. How does that translate into me, or anyone else that feels similarly, hating him?
 
2012-10-29 05:19:28 PM

iron_city_ap: garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.

Or accept the fact that people don't like him because he is a bad QB. Just for example, Troy Polamalu has a cross sewn into his jersey above his name (google it). He is arguably just as devout, yet no hate. Why? Because he's a good player. I'm sure there are many many other players you could cite that are heavily religious and aren't criticised for it.


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Let's not forget Ben "Playing for Jesus" Roethlisberger.
 
2012-10-29 05:21:00 PM

roc6783: garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

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///Also, who actually hates Tim Tebow? I do not think he is a starting caliber QB in the NFL. I also do not agree with his religious and political views. How does that translate into me, or anyone else that feels similarly, hating him?


You're right. That was a broad brush I used. Let me step back and say I think that many hate on Tebow because he wears his religion on his sleeve. You may not.
 
2012-10-29 05:26:13 PM

iron_city_ap:

Or accept the fact that people don't like him because he is a bad QB. Just for example, Troy Polamalu has a cross sewn into his jersey above his name (google it). He is arguably just as devout, yet no hate. Why? Because he's a good player. I'm sure there are many many other players you could cite that are heavily religious and aren't criticised for it.


Polamalu and others don't reference their religion with every opportunity they have to speak to the press. Tebow does and it rubs people raw and makes some people (not all) irrational in their opinion of him. He's got a better starting record that Aikman and Manning. Many people believe he can become a really good quarterback just like them given time and experience - yet people never hated on Aikman and Manning en masse like they do on Tebow.
 
2012-10-29 05:32:00 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


Tebow won't ever turn into a good QB. He throws like a dork and doesn't read defenses well. I'd compare him to Vince Young, except Vince Young was actually a shade better. Where's VY now?
 
2012-10-29 05:39:25 PM

Dog Welder: And how'd that QB change the fans wanted work out in Kansas City?


Kansas is being curb stomped by a terrible head coach. Romeo should stick to suicide pacts with Capulet daughters and stop killing teams with his "head coaching".
 
2012-10-29 05:41:24 PM

Rapmaster2000: iron_city_ap: garron:

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Let's not forget Ben "PlayingRaping for Jesus" Roethlisberger.

 
2012-10-29 05:42:13 PM
The Jets are better off getting Browning Neagle to start next game
 
2012-10-29 05:54:24 PM

garron: iron_city_ap:

Or accept the fact that people don't like him because he is a bad QB. Just for example, Troy Polamalu has a cross sewn into his jersey above his name (google it). He is arguably just as devout, yet no hate. Why? Because he's a good player. I'm sure there are many many other players you could cite that are heavily religious and aren't criticised for it.

Polamalu and others don't reference their religion with every opportunity they have to speak to the press. Tebow does and it rubs people raw and makes some people (not all) irrational in their opinion of him. He's got a better starting record that Aikman and Manning. Many people believe he can become a really good quarterback just like them given time and experience - yet people never hated on Aikman and Manning en masse like they do on Tebow.


This. Polamalu and other devout NFL players don't seem to bring it up in every farking interview they give. It gets a little tiresome. And the NY-focus that ESPN defaults to hasn't helped.
 
rka
2012-10-29 05:54:55 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


There is no coach that wants him. NONE. Maybe a deluded GM wants him, but coaches don't. The coach that drafted him didn't play him. The coach that inherited him shipped him out. And the coach that has him now will go down with the ship before putting him on the field in a meaningful position.

In a league where there is precious little loyalty and plenty of "what have you done for me lately" why do you think that is? These guys would suit up their grandmother if they thought it would get them a win and nobody wants anything to do with one Timmy Tebow...but you think all he needs is a chance? Christ alive, wake up.
 
2012-10-29 06:10:46 PM

rka:
There is no coach that wants him. NONE. Maybe a deluded GM wants him, but coaches don't. The coach that drafted him didn't play him. The coach that inherited him shipped him out. And the coach that has him now will go down with the ship before putting him on the field in a meaningful position.

In a league where there is precious little loyalty and plenty of "what have you done for me lately" why do you think that is? These guys would suit up their grandmother if they thought it would get them a win and nobody wants anything to do with one Timmy Tebow...but you think all he needs is a chance? Christ alive, wake up.


Ah. Finally. A true irrational hater. Not even willing to give him the chance to play because he might actually take another team to the playoffs. That would just drive you (and people like you) crazy. ; )
 
2012-10-29 06:18:18 PM
That blot post was paradigm-shattering. Thanks, ESPN!
 
2012-10-29 06:18:54 PM

regindyn: That blot post was paradigm-shattering. Thanks, ESPN!


And it's so awful it doesn't deserve to be spelled correctly!
 
2012-10-29 06:22:42 PM

iron_city_ap: Or accept the fact that people don't like him because he is a bad QB. Just for example, Troy Polamalu has a cross sewn into his jersey above his name (google it). He is arguably just as devout, yet no hate. Why? Because he's a good player. I'm sure there are many many other players you could cite that are heavily religious and aren't criticised for it.


That would be a more valid point if people weren't already hating on him before he was a starter, thanks to his FotF ad and things he's said.

/Your point does apply to some people though; I understand not everyone is anti-Tebow do to his religion.
 
2012-10-29 06:26:04 PM

fastfxr: Ryan is an idiot. Danny Goodhead ring a bell to you Jets fans?



No but I don't watch a lot of gay porn.

\It's Danny Woodhead.
\\Which to be fair also sounds like the star of a gay porn, but a top not a bottom.
 
rka
2012-10-29 06:29:45 PM

garron: Not even willing to give him the chance to play because he might actually take another team to the playoffs.


I'm not the one that has to give him a chance to play. His coach does.

And three coaches in a row have said .... "Uh, no thanks..I'll pass"

If you think anyone with half a brain in Denver thinks the Broncos made a mistake in getting rid of Tebow because he *may* take someone else to the playoffs and that "golly gee, maybe we should have kept him" you're insane.
 
2012-10-29 06:54:34 PM
Look, the media has handled Rex Ryan with kid gloves out of political correctness. It is difficult to speak ill of a dumb, fat, mutant offspring of bad football coaching with a perverse foot fetish. It is not that Sanchez is losing games. It is how BADLY he is losing games.These types of stories are unavoidable when you have a line up that could potentially win a superbowl and they can't even score one touchdown a game. Something has got to give.
 
2012-10-29 07:49:34 PM

garron: All the people that hate on Tebow are just showing their bigotry against religion.

Aikman's record in his first year as a starter was 0 wins and 11 losses.

Payton Mannings record in his first year as a starter was 3 wins and 13 losses.

I don't want Tebow to start for the Jets. I want him to be traded to a team and a coach that wants him to be their quarterback. Give the guy a chance and stop the hate. Let him believe what he wants to believe. You do and nobody hates on you for it.


Take your Republican persecution complex back to the politics thread. Also, most people don't hate the religious. They hate religious people like you who want to force your beliefs down everybody's throat. People like you who self-congratulate for going to church for an hour on Sunday even as you ignore a homeless person asking for change. People like you, who scream about one cherry-picked Leviticus verse at gay people, yet ignore every other verse in the Bible.
 
2012-10-29 08:23:34 PM
Tebow is Tebow. He is terrible at certain things but he is good at others. Is he an elite QB? Not an effing chance. Is Sanchez elite? That is also a big nope. What advantages does Tebow bring? He brings unpredictability. You always have to spy the run with Tebow. Always. Is he always going to run? Nope. But he can. This brings a defense closer and gives the somewhat inaccurate arm of Tebow an open wide out down range.
 
2012-10-29 08:49:50 PM
Sanchez isn't the problem so much as a decimated reciever corps and generally not being a very good football team in a division that is full of really good ones.

Tebow is not going to solve anything.
 
rka
2012-10-29 10:07:16 PM

chumboobler: Is he always going to run?


Always? No. But about 66% of the time yes. Of the remaining 33% pass he doesn't even complete half of them.

In an average NFL game of 60-70 plays per team that means a defense can play the run almost exclusively for 40-45 plays. Of the remaining of the remaining 20-25 you can count on Tebow missing 10-12.

Even though Denver was rated the #1 rushing team last year, largely in part to Tebow, it really wasn't that effective on a yd/play metric, barely better than middle of the road compared to everyone else. It's just that they ran it so damn much. Quantity over quality so to speak.

Any defensive coordinator worth his salt is getting hardon reading those numbers. And no offensive coordinator wants to bet his career on a strategy that makes the team essentially one dimensional and depends on miracle kicks, comebacks and a fluke breakdown or two to win games.

And to get Tebow in the game plan as a wildcard factor still means he has to take snaps in practice. Snaps which are at a premium in today's CBA regulated practice times. Do you really want to waste 1/3 of your practice on gadget plays to a player that the defense knows when he's in the game that there is a 85% chance that it's either a run or a pass that will hit the ground?

The Jets sure don't. It's becoming obvious Tebow isn't worth the investment. There is nothing he does that much better than another player at the same position. Sanchez can throw better, the RBs they do have can run better. A low percentage chance on a trick play actually tricking anyone? Those are terrible odds.
 
2012-10-30 08:07:43 AM
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