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(Townhall)   While the entire east coast snivels, cowers, and whines over a little wind and rain, the soldiers guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington go right on standing their vigil   (townhall.com ) divider line
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2012-10-29 01:34:07 PM  
12 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


The threat that someone might forget why it is important.
2012-10-29 04:30:54 PM  
6 votes:
not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

media.npr.org

it was actually taken in september.
2012-10-29 01:42:56 PM  
5 votes:
If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?
2012-10-29 01:32:25 PM  
5 votes:

AdolfOliverPanties: Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


Ok, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, you'll want those guards at that tomb, you'll need those guards at that tomb. To have trained military specialists reanimate and come back from the grave with those skills will prove the deciding factor in the Afterworld. Without those marines there ready to pop one in the skulls of the zombie troops, we could lose the war before it even started!
2012-10-29 01:29:44 PM  
5 votes:

mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.


Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?
2012-10-29 04:02:03 PM  
4 votes:
I would like to commend the photographers for braving that weather.

Truly, these are Gods among men.
2012-10-29 03:36:50 PM  
4 votes:
The guards will not be marching in front of the Tomb during the storm's peak. They'll be nearby, under cover and dressed for rough weather. Link
2012-10-29 01:47:47 PM  
4 votes:
I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.
2012-10-30 03:00:51 AM  
3 votes:

BronyMedic: Except it's not being used as that. It's being used to show the dedication and honor these men have. This is not an assignment that people are given in the Military unless they are considered some of the best in terms of their behavior and discipline. These people volunteered to serve as the honor guard for men that they never met, but who made not only the ultimate sacrifice of their lives to stop some of the greatest evil - and yes, that's the word for it, evil. - that the world has ever known, but made the even greater sacrifice of their names to history, becoming those who fell who will forever be lost to the whispers of history.


I'll never understand how this subject turns grown-ass men into pearl-clutching church ladies.

Brony, there's appreciating people's service to their country, and then there's an unhealthy level of military hero-worship. I think you might be approaching the latter. Some people in the Armed Forces lay down their lives for other people. So do some firefighters, cops, hazmat workers, peace corps volunteers, photojournalists, and people in many other professions. Not every single thing these guys do needs to be fawned over, like it's some religion-of-war miracle. These dudes stand an honor guard in the rain. But you know what?... the mail got delivered today too.

Maybe you could dial back the fervor a few notches and give dragonchild a break. He made a reasonable point. (Also, giggle about marching bands all you like, but those DCI guys can out-precision march the best the Armed Forces has to offer, drunk and blindfolded. Yeah, that's right.)
2012-10-29 07:13:57 PM  
3 votes:
Ah, The Tomb of the Unknowns, where America's military romanticists go get dewy-eyed for the dead, then go home and happily cheer on the next war.
2012-10-29 06:37:42 PM  
3 votes:
The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is
disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.
2012-10-29 01:31:06 PM  
3 votes:
I see we've temporarily changed corpses that we should pay attention to.
2012-10-29 07:06:05 PM  
2 votes:

The WindowLicker: henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.

It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby


I'm glad they build awareness that people die during wars. I'd never have known that otherwise, just like I never heard of breast cancer until the NFL went pink.

Thank goodness for all this good people do by doing meaningless but symbolic gestures in the name of awareness.
2012-10-29 06:50:06 PM  
2 votes:
I think it's great that they're still on post, but I think subby is an @sshole for saying that a storm that will cause billions of dollars worth of damage is somehow all about 'sniveling, cowering and whining.'

In fact, subby, just shut the f**k up.
2012-10-29 06:48:34 PM  
2 votes:

JohnCarter: They guard in the snow


farm3.staticflickr.com
2012-10-29 06:44:42 PM  
2 votes:

beta_plus: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.


Fark progressives still have to mention something about killing brown people
2012-10-29 06:36:02 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.


Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.
2012-10-29 05:10:12 PM  
2 votes:
2012-10-29 04:44:48 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: Why does the tomb need to be guarded, you might ask?

Because people used to have picnics and gatherings on the grave as the area had great views of the city, and the military thought this was disrespectful.


A perfectly good reason. But I don't think it's applicable during a farking hurricane.
2012-10-29 01:16:45 PM  
2 votes:
Some things are just more important than the weather.
2012-10-30 12:22:43 PM  
1 vote:

KrispyKritter: REO-Weedwagon: Ah, The Tomb of the Unknowns, where America's military romanticists go get dewy-eyed for the dead, then go home and happily cheer on the next war.

Warm and filling is the bowls of patriotic propaganda porridge swallowed by those willing to do or die, spoon fed to them by fearless leaders whose sons and daughters are safe and warm back at home. It's a filling stew from a bottomless bowl courtesy of Daddy Warbucks families who make great coin from your children dying around the world. Keep telling yourself it's for the red white and blue as you bury your boys while Senators and Congress laugh at you.


After reading your postings these past few months and looking at your profile I must conclude that you truly are the most miserable person on the planet. You just won't stop filling every thread with scorn and derision no matter what the subject matter. It's not everyone elses fault you haven't gotten any stank on the hang low since Eisenhower was a 2LT. Go hire a hooker and get happy!
2012-10-30 10:25:38 AM  
1 vote:
People are entitled to their opinions, but there's been only 600 people eligible to serve as the tomb guard over the last 54 years, I think there's been a few more band members that that:

After serving honorably for a period of nine months, and having passed the sequence of tests, a Tomb Guard is permanently awarded the Badge. Since the first award on February 7, 1958, fewer than 600 soldiers have completed training and been awarded this Badge, including three women. A small number of Tomb Guard Identification Badges have also been retroactively awarded to soldiers who served as Guards before 1959. Those numbers make the Badge the second rarest award currently issued in the United States Army; only the Army Astronaut Badge is rarer.

I also wouldn't compare spending 10 minutes performing at halftime during a high school football game to spending up to 2 hours (after the cemetery closes the guards switch to 2 hour shifts) in the dark and bad weather, even in the depths of winter.

i.imgur.com

And for those who think it's a bunch of military/industrial jingo, there are many countries around the world who think it's worthwhile to honor their unidentified dead.
2012-10-30 07:18:54 AM  
1 vote:

BronyMedic: The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity


Did I? I wasn't aware of that.

My only point is that marching in a September rain isn't the worst that these guys go through -- or pretty much anyone who works outside for a living. Marching bands do it all the time, and we're known for being pussies. I'm supposed to be impressed?

That says nothing about their qualities. That's another discussion. I'm just saying the picture making the rounds on the Internet warrants a big fat "meh". I'm not making fun of the guys themselves, or the tomb, or our Armed Services. I am making fun of the hilariously precious snowflake who is somehow successfully fooling the Internets into mistaking a nice autumn rain for a hurricane. It's not that the guys ain't tough. It's that that particular picture is what most in the Army would call "Tuesday".
2012-10-30 12:51:21 AM  
1 vote:

Cucullen: You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.


Wow. You actually used implied homosexuality as an insult?

Congratulations. You're now Honey Boo Boo.

How'd you know I love gay soldiers, by the way?

3.bp.blogspot.com
www.ontopmag.com
www.nowtheendbegins.com
i4.mirror.co.uk

I have far more respect for them than someone who would come on the internet and talk tough.
2012-10-29 10:29:41 PM  
1 vote:

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


That and being charged for insubordination should you refuse to do it helps...
2012-10-29 09:58:06 PM  
1 vote:
Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.
2012-10-29 07:38:08 PM  
1 vote:
As a mother of sons, I think a death of a soldier is a loss to their family and I identify very strongly with that kind of loss. I am grateful I live in a country where they don't have to go to war. As for honour, that is all a country can offer, an honour guard. I would much rather have them live a full life and have no honour guard. Honour in death is meaningless.
2012-10-29 07:37:38 PM  
1 vote:

Pincy: I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?


Apparently, working in adverse weather conditions makes you a hero. Which would make me f*cking Superman compared to guys standing in the rain.
2012-10-29 07:30:34 PM  
1 vote:

MayoBoy: dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine

The crypt that once held the remains of the Vietnam Unknown has been replaced. The original inscription of "Vietnam" and the dates of the conflict has been changed to "Honoring and Keeping Faith with America's Missing Servicemen." as a reminder of the commitment of the Armed Forces to fullest possible accounting of missing service members.

The Army posts the guard but the guards wear no rank of insignia so as not to outrank the Unknowns. The only time rank is shown is at the changing of the guard but not by either the new or old guard. Outside of Farkland, if any member of the guard were to be identified in a bar, the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard would be lining up in no particular order to buy his (or her) drinks.


Yeah, not so much. I work with TOG soldiers, and it's hard not to giggle at them when they talk about how they can't sit down in their uniforms (goofs up the crease). They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.
2012-10-29 07:20:42 PM  
1 vote:
I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?
2012-10-29 07:15:22 PM  
1 vote:

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


People have tried to deface the tomb. The guard is also a demonstration of respect for those that died.
2012-10-29 07:14:09 PM  
1 vote:
Imagine that: someone who is supposed to be guarding something continues to do so even when the weather turns foul.
2012-10-29 06:55:10 PM  
1 vote:

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


That whooshing sound is the point going over your head.

Honor is more important than the weather.
2012-10-29 06:51:52 PM  
1 vote:

hasty ambush: beta_plus: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.

Fark progressives still have to mention something about killing brown people


Or that the First Amendment doesn't count when you criticize Muhammad.
2012-10-29 06:47:14 PM  
1 vote:

DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.


If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine
2012-10-29 06:45:08 PM  
1 vote:

henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.


It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby
2012-10-29 06:40:44 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.


To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.
2012-10-29 06:39:17 PM  
1 vote:

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."


Good thing Marines will be guarding the streets of heaven. That'll leave the Army to guard the Tomb of the Unknowns, like they've been doing since 1922.

/ Semper Fi anyway
2012-10-29 06:38:05 PM  
1 vote:
The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.
2012-10-29 06:26:12 PM  
1 vote:
It's nice that they're out there making the gesture, but really. They're out in 40-something-degree weather, in a bit of rain with some wind gusts. It's a Cat 1. People in Forida play in the surf in Cat. 1s. Commercial work in worse weather than this routinely, and think nothing of it. Heck, U.S. Navy sailors work in weather like this routinely and think nothing of it.
2012-10-29 06:23:44 PM  
1 vote:

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


Because if it's patriotic you can have it both ways.
2012-10-29 02:58:20 PM  
1 vote:

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Oh dear, you've broken under the strain of derp.

This from a guy that just made one of the stupidest farking comments that I've seen in almost 10 years on Fark.


I like how you're just utterly refusing to acknowledge anything besides the world you've created for yourself. You're responding to me but somehow it completely fails to address anything I type. It's pretty funny, like watching animals in a zoo. They want to eat you, but they don't have a clue how and this damn glass is in the way.
2012-10-29 02:35:24 PM  
1 vote:

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: As a break from Benghazi.

Do whut?


Oh dear, you've broken under the strain of derp. Well bless your heart.
2012-10-29 02:22:32 PM  
1 vote:

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: I see we've temporarily changed corpses that we should pay attention to.

Do whut?


As a break from Benghazi.
2012-10-29 02:18:58 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.


Oh relax. Just having some fun with it.
2012-10-29 01:44:41 PM  
1 vote:
Plus, people are hoping that they have something catastrophic happen to them so that Obama can get clubbed over it.
2012-10-29 01:25:18 PM  
1 vote:
"Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."
2012-10-29 01:25:06 PM  
1 vote:
media.npr.org
 
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