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(Townhall)   While the entire east coast snivels, cowers, and whines over a little wind and rain, the soldiers guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington go right on standing their vigil   (townhall.com) divider line 160
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2012-10-29 07:39:06 PM  
this is stupid.
 
2012-10-29 07:43:38 PM  
Latest satellite photo of Sandyi96.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-29 07:51:12 PM  

Pincy: I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?


and you probably never will.
 
2012-10-29 08:08:06 PM  
How do these guys pee?
 
2012-10-29 08:12:02 PM  

xl5150: Newsflash: when you dick around during high school and can't get into college, you'll end up with a job where you'll have to stand outside in the rain. Next up: water is wet.


Right, I never served with any fellow enlisted who had Associate's, Bachelor's or Master's degrees. Nope, never.

-10/10.
 
2012-10-29 08:12:20 PM  

One Bad Apple: AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

Zombies


The threat: lack of respect for those whom gave all, so that you can scratch your nuts in freedom
 
2012-10-29 08:30:49 PM  

Godscrack: How do these guys pee?


Quietly and secretively.
 
2012-10-29 08:35:24 PM  
 
2012-10-29 08:45:37 PM  
Risking your life to protect a dead person. Grow a farking brain!
 
2012-10-29 08:49:20 PM  

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

[media.npr.org image 624x582]

it was actually taken in september.


They point out that exact photo was taken in September, but they also remind us they are out there today (10/29). But I'm sure you slaving away at Mcdonald's so you could come home and derp for not clicking a link makes you feel superior.
 
2012-10-29 08:50:58 PM  

Spiralmonkey: Godscrack: How do these guys pee?

Quietly and secretively.


Before and/or after their 1-hour shift.
 
2012-10-29 08:51:26 PM  

Spiralmonkey: Godscrack: How do these guys pee?

Quietly and secretively.


When do they check their Facebook?
 
2012-10-29 09:02:06 PM  

dragonchild: FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.

Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.


ITG, you're TOTALLY right. HS marching band is WAY more hard core than being a soldier. Maybe you should also teach Seal Team 6 how to LARP - to toughen them up a bit...
 
2012-10-29 09:02:34 PM  

mbillips: Yeah, not so much. I work with TOG soldiers, and it's hard not to giggle at them when they talk about how they can't sit down in their uniforms (goofs up the crease). They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.


Yeah, not so much. Read Me
 
2012-10-29 09:09:43 PM  

skinnycatullus: That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.


I wonder if it's like Panmunjeom at the DMZ in Korea. The guards don't stand there all day like you see in the pictures. They only come out for tours or if there is tension between the two sides. That's what was told to me by a UN soldier stationed there, anyway. I'm just guessing during the hurricane these guards have a little booth nearby to keep warm and out of the rain?
 
2012-10-29 09:28:48 PM  
Everything is dumb and I hate everything
 
2012-10-29 09:29:08 PM  
I was curious; thought I'd share...

"The rifles currently used by the Honor Guard are M14 rifles. They are fully functional and ready for use, but they are carried unloaded without a magazine inserted.

First, during rifle inspection and handling of the gun there is a danger of an unintentional round being fired. Second, there would rarely be a reason for the use of deadly force. Even if there were a reason, with all the people around there it would be hard to fire a "responsible" shot with the bullet hitting and stopping your intended target and no one else.

That said, inserting a magazine and charging the M14 is a matter of seconds. The Guard, while ceremonial, is the real deal.

There are many rumors surrounding the Tomb Guards, and one is that if you invade the Tomb area you will be shot. This is not true, and if that happened the Guard would be criminally liable. No one will be killed, assaulted, or knifed with the bayonet for the reason of intruding on the Tomb. Regardless of what one may think of the military- they do understand perhaps more than anyone, the concept of the use of deadly force and when it is warranted. A disturber may get arrested at the Tomb, but not killed for such offenses.

To those who may dispute the guns are not loaded- go see the Changing of the Guard or see a video of it. When the inspecting officer approaches the oncoming Guard, the first move the Guard makes is to open the action of the rifle, and peer down into it, just before the inspecting officer snatches it away from him. The purpose of this move is to ensure that the Guard is NOT about to hand over a LOADED firearm to the officer. At no time thereafter is a magazine inserted into the rifle, nor a round inserted at all."
 
2012-10-29 09:39:33 PM  
set derp phasers to "fap"
 
2012-10-29 09:42:47 PM  
This thread has further reaffirmed my belief that no matter what your political affiliation as a FARKer, douchebaggery is bipartisan.
 
2012-10-29 09:44:18 PM  

destrip: To those who may dispute the guns are not loaded- go see the Changing of the Guard or see a video of it. When the inspecting officer approaches the oncoming Guard, the first move the Guard makes is to open the action of the rifle, and peer down into it, just before the inspecting officer snatches it away from him. The purpose of this move is to ensure that the Guard is NOT about to hand over a LOADED firearm to the officer. At no time thereafter is a magazine inserted into the rifle, nor a round inserted at all."


You never have to worry about racking the bolt on a bayonet.
 
2012-10-29 09:45:14 PM  

grahambhg: Risking your life to protect a dead person. Grow a farking brain!


From the FAQ of the Tombguard.org:

Do you guard in a blizzard or a bad thunderstorm?

YES, BUT the accomplishment of the mission and welfare of the Soldier is never put at risk. The Tomb Guards have contingencies that are ready to be executed IF the weather conditions EVER place the Soldiers at risk of injury or death - such as lightning, high winds, etc. This ensures that Sentinels can maintain the Tomb Guard responsibilities while ensuring soldier safety. It is the responsibility of the Chain of Command from the Sergeant of the Guard to the Regimental Commander to ensure mission accomplishment and soldier welfare at all times.
 

https://tombguard.org/society/faq/

As an instructor at a college, I am finding that research is a lost art.
 
2012-10-29 09:45:27 PM  

scavenger: Everything is dumb and I hate everything


This election cycle is making me start to agree with this sentiment.
 
2012-10-29 09:53:16 PM  

dragonchild: Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.


Years from now, when FARK has gone through it's 4th or 5th frontpage format change, this comment will still haunt you. You went beyond full retard. This is category five level megaderp, the likes of which is only seen in 9/11 conspiracy threads, and Obama birth certificate threads.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-29 09:58:06 PM  
Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.
 
2012-10-29 10:02:49 PM  

SoxSweepAgain: Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.


The bodies currently contained in the TotUS are from World War I, World War II, and Korea. Because as we all know, World War II was TOTALLY about the United States' nationalistic superiority.

drollblogtitle.files.wordpress.com

/those who forget history, and the sacrifices made by the men in it, are doomed to repeat its mistakes, and defile everything those men sacrificed for.
 
2012-10-29 10:15:00 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: AdolfOliverPanties: Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

Ok, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, you'll want those guards at that tomb, you'll need those guards at that tomb. To have trained military specialists reanimate and come back from the grave with those skills will prove the deciding factor in the Afterworld. Without those marines there ready to pop one in the skulls of the zombie troops, we could lose the war before it even started!


What Marines? The 3rd US Infantry Regiment (Old Guard) is United States Army. HOOAH, not OO-RAH.
 
2012-10-29 10:22:50 PM  

dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine


I agree that the super-patriot line was uncalled for, but so is your over-reactive snark. You call me a Marine and I'm liable to get real pissed. I'm a soldier.

Call my uncle or either of my godparents - all Marines - soldiers, and you're liable to start a damned fistfight.

Our enemies don't give a royal damn, but yes. We do. And no, service in any of the five branches (yes, Coast Guardsmen are military) doesn't denigrate or diminish service in any other, but I'd be liable to be upset if you called me a sailor, airman, or Coastie/Puddle Pirate too even though I have close relatives and good friends in all of those branches.
 
2012-10-29 10:26:32 PM  

Aigoo: dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine

I agree that the super-patriot line was uncalled for, but so is your over-reactive snark. You call me a Marine and I'm liable to get real pissed. I'm a soldier.

Call my uncle or either of my godparents - all Marines - soldiers, and you're liable to start a damned fistfight.

Our enemies don't give a royal damn, but yes. We do. And no, service in any of the five branches (yes, Coast Guardsmen are military) doesn't denigrate or diminish service in any other, but I'd be liable to be upset if you called me a sailor, airman, or Coastie/Puddle Pirate too even though I have close relatives and good friends in all of those branches.


You don't know what it was like in the Marching Band, Aigoo. They had to do things. Unspeakable things.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-29 10:26:38 PM  
Holy shiat! A family friend's kid is one of the guys that is there. I am sure he's fine. His dad recounted this weekend the competition, between William and his sister, that was who could slit the most turkey necks in one day. The kids were in competition to slit turkey necks. In elementary school. His dad was a marine too so, he's fine. His dad probably made him stand out in a storm just so he could get tough.
 
2012-10-29 10:29:41 PM  

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


That and being charged for insubordination should you refuse to do it helps...
 
2012-10-29 10:46:02 PM  

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines Core."


FTFY
 
2012-10-29 10:47:12 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: The threat that someone might forget why it is important.

That's probably it. That is what I would have gone with if I was the guy who came up with the idea of posting a guard there for eternity and was trying to sell it to the brass.

Either that or tell people the Holy Grail is inside.


Or we could just with your whore mom being inside.
 
2012-10-29 10:58:53 PM  

Tumunga: teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines Core."

FTFY


Is that an alt FlyNavy?
 
2012-10-29 11:07:15 PM  
It doesn't surprise me that so many Farkers don't understand the meaning or point of honor. As for my brothers in the Old Guard I give a hearty HOOAH! It sucks out there right now.
 
2012-10-29 11:12:13 PM  

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


It's not.

The thing is, some people actually think that if you point out that standing in the rain (or much fouler conditions) is something that many of us have done (and isn't a big deal), you are thereby taking a big dump on the memory of the American soldiers who died in war, as well as those who are now in uniform.

Yes, it is breathtakingly stupid, but some people "think" this way.
 
2012-10-29 11:28:09 PM  

BronyMedic: dragonchild: Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.

Years from now, when FARK has gone through it's 4th or 5th frontpage format change, this comment will still haunt you. You went beyond full retard. This is category five level megaderp, the likes of which is only seen in 9/11 conspiracy threads, and Obama birth certificate threads.


[i.imgur.com image 850x64]


I'm not really sure why that post upset you so much. Personally, I have dragonchild favourited for a post he made last year on downgrading the military. It was a very well reasoned position. This whole story, the September image being used now as a strange "Our armed forces also are outside" statement, is odd to me. I'm just really not sure what your beef is with dragonchild here. It's like..... his opinion man.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:58 PM  
This was a good thread for taking care of s'more ignore list additions.

thanks for participating all.
 
2012-10-29 11:48:53 PM  

JohnCarter: They guard in the snow

[usarmy.vo.llnwd.net image 640x425]

and dark of night

[www.winkmartindale.com image 324x419]



Link
And put douche-bag visitors in their place when appropriate.
 
2012-10-29 11:53:30 PM  

SoxSweepAgain: Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.


I know, it may be hard to accept. But some things were, are and will always be a lot bigger than you.
 
2012-10-29 11:55:22 PM  

Acharne: I'm not really sure why that post upset you so much. Personally, I have dragonchild favourited for a post he made last year on downgrading the military. It was a very well reasoned position. This whole story, the September image being used now as a strange "Our armed forces also are outside" statement, is odd to me. I'm just really not sure what your beef is with dragonchild here. It's like..... his opinion man.


Except it's not being used as that. It's being used to show the dedication and honor these men have. This is not an assignment that people are given in the Military unless they are considered some of the best in terms of their behavior and discipline. These people volunteered to serve as the honor guard for men that they never met, but who made not only the ultimate sacrifice of their lives to stop some of the greatest evil - and yes, that's the word for it, evil. - that the world has ever known, but made the even greater sacrifice of their names to history, becoming those who fell who will forever be lost to the whispers of history.

You can disagree with the size, or the funding amount, of the military all you like. We have the most wasteful, bloated military in the history of the world, and procurement practices that would make even the most corrupt Italian look on in horror.

But don't spit on the name of those who truly made the ultimate sacrifice, or those who choose to uphold and honor their memory with one of the most grueling posts in the United States military. 

The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity, and then not only insulted the branch of service they're in, but also implied that the only reason it was done was out of jingoistic nationalism to stir up fervor for the next brushfire war, and find something completely offensive about it, disturbs me.
 
2012-10-30 12:06:33 AM  

suburbanguy: dragonchild: FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.

Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.

ITG, you're TOTALLY right. HS marching band is WAY more hard core than being a soldier. Maybe you should also teach Seal Team 6 how to LARP - to toughen them up a bit...


Yeah I'm not sure how pointing out that dealing with shiatty weather is not necessarily heroic means he's thumping his chest. You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.
 
2012-10-30 12:07:30 AM  

mbillips: They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.


No, they do not. The charge of the watch who changes the guard does, but the ones walking the mat do not.
 
2012-10-30 12:33:33 AM  
With bayonets, Obama ... with GD bayonets you effing loser ....
 
2012-10-30 12:37:37 AM  

Cucullen: Yeah I'm not sure how pointing out that dealing with shiatty weather is not necessarily heroic means he's thumping his chest. You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.


Nobody said they were "heroic". And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard. Multiple slams were deserved.
 
2012-10-30 12:49:28 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard.


You should try listening to yourself speak sometime then, or proofreading :). But seriously marching in the rain is marching in the rain after about 15 minutes. It sucks. The only difference here is that these guys have a grand and noble idea about what they are doing to help keep their moral up. Thats more than most jobs will afford you, let alone being in some lame ass high school band.
 
2012-10-30 12:51:21 AM  

Cucullen: You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.


Wow. You actually used implied homosexuality as an insult?

Congratulations. You're now Honey Boo Boo.

How'd you know I love gay soldiers, by the way?

3.bp.blogspot.com
www.ontopmag.com
www.nowtheendbegins.com
i4.mirror.co.uk

I have far more respect for them than someone who would come on the internet and talk tough.
 
2012-10-30 01:19:13 AM  

Cucullen: Pray 4 Mojo: And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard.

You should try listening to yourself speak sometime then, or proofreading :). But seriously marching in the rain is marching in the rain after about 15 minutes. It sucks. The only difference here is that these guys have a grand and noble idea about what they are doing to help keep their moral up. Thats more than most jobs will afford you, let alone being in some lame ass high school band.


Granted it's not funny... but that;s the joke.
 
2012-10-30 02:21:13 AM  

BronyMedic: Cucullen: You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.

Wow. You actually used implied homosexuality as an insult?

Congratulations. You're now Honey Boo Boo.

How'd you know I love gay soldiers, by the way?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 635x441]
[www.ontopmag.com image 300x200]
[www.nowtheendbegins.com image 450x313]
[i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

I have far more respect for them than someone who would come on the internet and talk tough.


That last picture..... oh yeah
I'll be in my bunk
 
2012-10-30 03:00:51 AM  

BronyMedic: Except it's not being used as that. It's being used to show the dedication and honor these men have. This is not an assignment that people are given in the Military unless they are considered some of the best in terms of their behavior and discipline. These people volunteered to serve as the honor guard for men that they never met, but who made not only the ultimate sacrifice of their lives to stop some of the greatest evil - and yes, that's the word for it, evil. - that the world has ever known, but made the even greater sacrifice of their names to history, becoming those who fell who will forever be lost to the whispers of history.


I'll never understand how this subject turns grown-ass men into pearl-clutching church ladies.

Brony, there's appreciating people's service to their country, and then there's an unhealthy level of military hero-worship. I think you might be approaching the latter. Some people in the Armed Forces lay down their lives for other people. So do some firefighters, cops, hazmat workers, peace corps volunteers, photojournalists, and people in many other professions. Not every single thing these guys do needs to be fawned over, like it's some religion-of-war miracle. These dudes stand an honor guard in the rain. But you know what?... the mail got delivered today too.

Maybe you could dial back the fervor a few notches and give dragonchild a break. He made a reasonable point. (Also, giggle about marching bands all you like, but those DCI guys can out-precision march the best the Armed Forces has to offer, drunk and blindfolded. Yeah, that's right.)
 
2012-10-30 03:57:51 AM  

BronyMedic: The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity, and then not only insulted the branch of service they're in, but also implied that the only reason it was done was out of jingoistic nationalism to stir up fervor for the next brushfire war, and find something completely offensive about it, disturbs me.


Well, don't let it disturb you. I had no idea what guarding that tomb meant in relationship to the military until you just told me. I knew about the tomb, but not that guarding it was a duty given to a special few. I do appreciate you explaining it. I figured you would, that's why I asked. Though I get my fair share of American culture way up here in Canada, some subtleties will be missed. What I have realised from that is that I have no business questioning your reaction to him.
 
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