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(Townhall)   While the entire east coast snivels, cowers, and whines over a little wind and rain, the soldiers guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in Arlington go right on standing their vigil   ( townhall.com) divider line
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2012-10-29 01:16:45 PM  
Some things are just more important than the weather.
 
2012-10-29 01:25:06 PM  
media.npr.org
 
2012-10-29 01:25:18 PM  
"Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."
 
2012-10-29 01:29:44 PM  

mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.


Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?
 
2012-10-29 01:31:06 PM  
I see we've temporarily changed corpses that we should pay attention to.
 
2012-10-29 01:32:25 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


Ok, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, you'll want those guards at that tomb, you'll need those guards at that tomb. To have trained military specialists reanimate and come back from the grave with those skills will prove the deciding factor in the Afterworld. Without those marines there ready to pop one in the skulls of the zombie troops, we could lose the war before it even started!
 
2012-10-29 01:34:07 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


The threat that someone might forget why it is important.
 
2012-10-29 01:35:40 PM  

mr_a: The threat that someone might forget why it is important.


That's probably it. That is what I would have gone with if I was the guy who came up with the idea of posting a guard there for eternity and was trying to sell it to the brass.

Either that or tell people the Holy Grail is inside.
 
2012-10-29 01:38:44 PM  

GAT_00: I see we've temporarily changed corpses that we should pay attention to.


Do whut?
 
2012-10-29 01:42:56 PM  
If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?
 
2012-10-29 01:44:41 PM  
Plus, people are hoping that they have something catastrophic happen to them so that Obama can get clubbed over it.
 
2012-10-29 01:47:47 PM  
I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.
 
2012-10-29 02:09:15 PM  
That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.
 
2012-10-29 02:12:02 PM  

BSABSVR: Plus, people are hoping that they have something catastrophic happen to them so that Obama can get clubbed over it.


Even Chris Christie was praising Obama today.
 
2012-10-29 02:18:58 PM  

Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.


Oh relax. Just having some fun with it.
 
2012-10-29 02:22:32 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: I see we've temporarily changed corpses that we should pay attention to.

Do whut?


As a break from Benghazi.
 
2012-10-29 02:31:49 PM  

GAT_00: As a break from Benghazi.


Do whut?
 
2012-10-29 02:35:24 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: As a break from Benghazi.

Do whut?


Oh dear, you've broken under the strain of derp. Well bless your heart.
 
2012-10-29 02:47:20 PM  

GAT_00: Oh dear, you've broken under the strain of derp.


This from a guy that just made one of the stupidest farking comments that I've seen in almost 10 years on Fark.
 
2012-10-29 02:58:20 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Oh dear, you've broken under the strain of derp.

This from a guy that just made one of the stupidest farking comments that I've seen in almost 10 years on Fark.


I like how you're just utterly refusing to acknowledge anything besides the world you've created for yourself. You're responding to me but somehow it completely fails to address anything I type. It's pretty funny, like watching animals in a zoo. They want to eat you, but they don't have a clue how and this damn glass is in the way.
 
2012-10-29 03:23:28 PM  
oh yay, this has gone green... lets watch what happens.
 
2012-10-29 03:29:40 PM  
Meanwhile on TownHall: "Obama has done nothing to find out the identity of this soldier. He doesn't care about our soldiers."
 
2012-10-29 03:31:15 PM  
Or something like that.
 
2012-10-29 03:36:50 PM  
The guards will not be marching in front of the Tomb during the storm's peak. They'll be nearby, under cover and dressed for rough weather. Link
 
2012-10-29 03:58:52 PM  

Brick-House: [media.npr.org image 641x480]


Bayonet?
 
2012-10-29 04:02:03 PM  
I would like to commend the photographers for braving that weather.

Truly, these are Gods among men.
 
2012-10-29 04:02:57 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


Zombies
 
2012-10-29 04:06:36 PM  

GGracie: Brick-House: [media.npr.org image 641x480]

Bayonet?


M-14?
 
2012-10-29 04:06:49 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

Oh relax. Just having some fun with it.


Sorry. Wasn't aimed at you. Carry on.
 
2012-10-29 04:08:38 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: The guards will not be marching in front of the Tomb during the storm's peak. They'll be nearby, under cover and dressed for rough weather. Link


i.ytimg.com

This is the "cover" of which you speak.
 
2012-10-29 04:17:43 PM  
Seriously? Delete that?

What the hell.
 
2012-10-29 04:22:57 PM  

Beerguy: BarkingUnicorn: The guards will not be marching in front of the Tomb during the storm's peak. They'll be nearby, under cover and dressed for rough weather. Link

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

This is the "cover" of which you speak.


Sigh. All I wanted was hope that our heroes aren't insane. Thanks for ruining it!
 
2012-10-29 04:28:00 PM  

One Bad Apple: AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

Zombies


There's nothing scarier than an unknown zombie.
 
2012-10-29 04:30:21 PM  
Ha, old photo. Thanks TownDerp.
 
2012-10-29 04:30:54 PM  
not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

media.npr.org

it was actually taken in september.
 
2012-10-29 04:35:57 PM  
Why does the tomb need to be guarded, you might ask?

Because people used to have picnics and gatherings on the grave as the area had great views of the city, and the military thought this was disrespectful.
 
2012-10-29 04:38:22 PM  

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

[media.npr.org image 624x582]

it was actually taken in september.


Next you're going to tell me this hurricane photo is fake, right libtard?

img.gawkerassets.com
 
2012-10-29 04:44:48 PM  

vernonFL: Why does the tomb need to be guarded, you might ask?

Because people used to have picnics and gatherings on the grave as the area had great views of the city, and the military thought this was disrespectful.


A perfectly good reason. But I don't think it's applicable during a farking hurricane.
 
2012-10-29 05:10:12 PM  
 
2012-10-29 06:23:20 PM  
They don't want anyone to break in and find out that all we've been guarding all these years are a bunch of empty coffins.
 
2012-10-29 06:23:44 PM  

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


Because if it's patriotic you can have it both ways.
 
2012-10-29 06:23:52 PM  
I think you're confusing Northnuck pussies for the "entire East Coast".
 
2012-10-29 06:23:58 PM  
You'd think they could spare one guy to guard the unknown tomb of Jimmy Hoffa.
 
2012-10-29 06:24:09 PM  

Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.


Call James Cameron!!!
 
2012-10-29 06:25:28 PM  
A brave man likes the feel of nature on his face, Jack
 
2012-10-29 06:26:12 PM  
It's nice that they're out there making the gesture, but really. They're out in 40-something-degree weather, in a bit of rain with some wind gusts. It's a Cat 1. People in Forida play in the surf in Cat. 1s. Commercial work in worse weather than this routinely, and think nothing of it. Heck, U.S. Navy sailors work in weather like this routinely and think nothing of it.
 
2012-10-29 06:27:15 PM  
Totally legit, just like this one. 

i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-29 06:28:05 PM  
Photo or no I am glad they are doing it and hope they stay safe if not warm and dry.
But knowing you stood though a hurricane to do your duty and to honor the memory of fallen heroes will be one of the good memorys
 
2012-10-29 06:28:14 PM  
Also, they work 1-hour shifts. It's not super-comfortable out there, but compared to their REAL jobs (they're infantrymen), it's not exactly hazardous duty.
 
2012-10-29 06:29:43 PM  
They guard in the snow

usarmy.vo.llnwd.net

and dark of night

www.winkmartindale.com
 
2012-10-29 06:29:52 PM  
Joe Biden could totally swing by and bring them some coffee and doughnuts in his new trans am. It would be ok because it was going to charity.
 
2012-10-29 06:32:38 PM  

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

[media.npr.org image 624x582]

it was actually taken in september.


They actually show that photo at the bottom and explain that it was taken in September 2012. Thank God you didn't click the link or you would have found out yourself.
 
2012-10-29 06:35:19 PM  
farking hard corps man!
 
2012-10-29 06:35:48 PM  
"....or I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post, either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!!"
 
2012-10-29 06:36:02 PM  

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.


Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.
 
2012-10-29 06:37:42 PM  
The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is
disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.
 
2012-10-29 06:38:05 PM  
The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.
 
2012-10-29 06:38:51 PM  
I'm guarding my Fritos, currently in what I'm told is the "worst" of the storm. All that's on TV is talking heads gibbering next to weather maps, and what do I find here?

Humbug,

And noo - You can't have my Fritos. Every man for himself. There's not enough to go around. I'm in survival mode; gonna go practice killing you on X-Box.
 
2012-10-29 06:38:58 PM  
This guy's not impressed:

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-10-29 06:39:17 PM  

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."


Good thing Marines will be guarding the streets of heaven. That'll leave the Army to guard the Tomb of the Unknowns, like they've been doing since 1922.

/ Semper Fi anyway
 
2012-10-29 06:40:44 PM  

Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.


To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.
 
2012-10-29 06:42:03 PM  

Therion: 6 Fake Hurricane Sandy Photos You're Sharing on Social Media


People think the pic from "The Day After Tomorrow" is real? WTF?
 
2012-10-29 06:44:42 PM  

beta_plus: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.


Fark progressives still have to mention something about killing brown people
 
2012-10-29 06:45:08 PM  

henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.


It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby
 
2012-10-29 06:45:14 PM  
Are they trying to keep something from getting in.......or out?
 
2012-10-29 06:46:00 PM  
+1 Henryhill

Agree with Perigee, defend your chain of food even if you have dive into into the deep coach for few lost. Decisively ignore the 3 second rule when you drop those flavored yellow corn on the carpet. Make it know that you are guarding the bag of unknown Cheetos.

You are the few, Cheetos Army-Marine-Navy un-specialist.
 
2012-10-29 06:46:53 PM  
Those Marine core soldiers sound British.
 
2012-10-29 06:47:14 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.


If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine
 
2012-10-29 06:47:56 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Sigh. All I wanted was hope that our heroes aren't insane. Thanks for ruining it!


Insane? Hell, I'd sit out in that thing during this wimpy hurricane for 50$ and a bottle of Patron.
 
2012-10-29 06:48:34 PM  

JohnCarter: They guard in the snow


farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-10-29 06:50:06 PM  
I think it's great that they're still on post, but I think subby is an @sshole for saying that a storm that will cause billions of dollars worth of damage is somehow all about 'sniveling, cowering and whining.'

In fact, subby, just shut the f**k up.
 
2012-10-29 06:51:52 PM  

hasty ambush: beta_plus: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.

Fark progressives still have to mention something about killing brown people


Or that the First Amendment doesn't count when you criticize Muhammad.
 
2012-10-29 06:52:56 PM  
Wow. I'm actually really impressed that Townhall managed to post actual pictures from today, and the correct date from that September pic that's been making its way around the tubes. Granted, I hold Townhall to a really really low standard, but that wasn't bad for them.
 
2012-10-29 06:54:40 PM  
Wow, Katie Pavlich (the author of TFA) is astoundingly hot.
hotconservativewomen.files.wordpress.com
Too bad she seems batshiat insane.
 
2012-10-29 06:55:10 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


That whooshing sound is the point going over your head.

Honor is more important than the weather.
 
2012-10-29 07:04:34 PM  

dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine


The crypt that once held the remains of the Vietnam Unknown has been replaced. The original inscription of "Vietnam" and the dates of the conflict has been changed to "Honoring and Keeping Faith with America's Missing Servicemen." as a reminder of the commitment of the Armed Forces to fullest possible accounting of missing service members.

The Army posts the guard but the guards wear no rank of insignia so as not to outrank the Unknowns. The only time rank is shown is at the changing of the guard but not by either the new or old guard. Outside of Farkland, if any member of the guard were to be identified in a bar, the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard would be lining up in no particular order to buy his (or her) drinks.
 
2012-10-29 07:05:11 PM  

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."


Semper Fi brother!
Good night Chesty Puller wherever you are.
 
2012-10-29 07:06:05 PM  

The WindowLicker: henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.

It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby


I'm glad they build awareness that people die during wars. I'd never have known that otherwise, just like I never heard of breast cancer until the NFL went pink.

Thank goodness for all this good people do by doing meaningless but symbolic gestures in the name of awareness.
 
2012-10-29 07:08:06 PM  

Nexzus: Wow, Katie Pavlich (the author of TFA) is astoundingly hot.
[hotconservativewomen.files.wordpress.com image 191x489]
Too bad she seems batshiat insane.


Further research shows that shes not quite as hot as that picture, but still not bad. Still hot enough to where I'd do a George Costanza meets hot neo-nazi chick thing. "Why yes, I do believe that Obama is a Muslim out to spread socialism wherever he goes, Ms Pavlich. Now, take off your top."

Actually, do those super conservative women types believe in traditional submissive womens roles? Cause that could lead to a kinky good time. I might have to start hitting up the local chapter of the young republicans. Ayn Rand says kneel, biatch!
 
2012-10-29 07:08:15 PM  

beta_plus: Nabb1: I never thought that the Tomb of the Unknowns was something that would get under anyone's skin, but FARK continues to raise the bar. Well, more like lower it. Really, really lower.

To Fark Libs: America, always wrong.


img229.imageshack.us
 
2012-10-29 07:08:16 PM  

skinnycatullus: That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.


When the tomb is closed and/or extreme weather conditions arise, they guard it from a nearby sheltered location in fatigues.
 
2012-10-29 07:09:26 PM  

Nexzus: Wow, Katie Pavlich (the author of TFA) is astoundingly hot.
[hotconservativewomen.files.wordpress.com image 191x489]
Too bad she seems batshiat insane.


Being a good-looking blonde woman seems to be a good way to make it in the "conservative" blogger/pundit/anchor world. Which is OK, but it would be nice if reason and intelligence were also considered desirable.

If anything, those seem to be a hindrance.
 
2012-10-29 07:12:53 PM  
While the northeast whines about the "biggest storm ever to hit".........the south continues to cleanup after the previous 20 hurricanes struck:

tifr.us
 
2012-10-29 07:13:57 PM  
Ah, The Tomb of the Unknowns, where America's military romanticists go get dewy-eyed for the dead, then go home and happily cheer on the next war.
 
2012-10-29 07:14:09 PM  
Imagine that: someone who is supposed to be guarding something continues to do so even when the weather turns foul.
 
2012-10-29 07:15:10 PM  

Cyclometh: skinnycatullus: That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.

When the tomb is closed and/or extreme weather conditions arise, they guard it from a nearby sheltered location in fatigues.


I thought their offices were located underneath there and there was always a couple of them on duty.
 
2012-10-29 07:15:22 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?


People have tried to deface the tomb. The guard is also a demonstration of respect for those that died.
 
2012-10-29 07:17:30 PM  
The east coast is NOT sniveling and cowering. People are already losing their homes - this is a big deal.

I think we should let them have this one.
 
2012-10-29 07:20:42 PM  
I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?
 
2012-10-29 07:21:42 PM  

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines."


Not reading the thread to see if anyone else covered this, but the Tomb is guarded by members of the U.S. Army Third Infantry.
 
2012-10-29 07:24:19 PM  

Cyclometh: skinnycatullus: That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.

When the tomb is closed and/or extreme weather conditions arise, they guard it from a nearby sheltered location in fatigues.


Thanks for a derp-free response. Interesting.

Not that you are ever guilty of bringing the derp, but it is awfully thick in this thread.
 
2012-10-29 07:24:23 PM  

The WindowLicker: henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.

It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby


well said..glad to see someone here actually gets it.
the guard is not there to glorify war - quite the opposite.

the point being made is a very sad one - a man (or woman, these days) who gave his life at the behest of his countrymen (and yes, don't try to blame congress or the president), and no one even knows his name. his family will have no one to bury, and it will be as if he never existed.

for everyone, that is, except to these few who sacrifice their comfort in memory of these unknown.
 
2012-10-29 07:25:43 PM  

Nexzus: Wow, Katie Pavlich (the author of TFA) is astoundingly hot.
[hotconservativewomen.files.wordpress.com image 191x489]
Too bad she seems batshiat insane.


She's no Michelle Malkin.
 
2012-10-29 07:27:07 PM  

Misconduc: While the northeast whines about the "biggest storm ever to hit".........the south continues to cleanup after the previous 20 hurricanes struck:


I never realized Southerners were so butthurt about things not involving the Civil War.
 
2012-10-29 07:29:46 PM  
Some stories just write themselves a month before, so when the author is homebound, on the beach 5000 miles away, or making the beast with two vags (twin sister in town?) she's down with that. 

Other weather stories include: Colorful umbrellas, Can you set jello in snow, and the favorite, Keep the puppies warm. 

//Kudos to the photo editor for showing US soldiers. Had to destroy the Russian, Korean, Chinese, and some guys in dresses others in feathers military honor guard snapshots for fear they'd end up in a story like this.
 
2012-10-29 07:30:06 PM  
To all the farkers asking why we post guards:

In the 1920's people thought it would be funny to write graffiti on the tomb and smear shiat on it.

The brass at the time decided that the appropriate response was to post guards with bayonets for use in such situations.

Link
/Approves.
 
2012-10-29 07:30:34 PM  

MayoBoy: dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine

The crypt that once held the remains of the Vietnam Unknown has been replaced. The original inscription of "Vietnam" and the dates of the conflict has been changed to "Honoring and Keeping Faith with America's Missing Servicemen." as a reminder of the commitment of the Armed Forces to fullest possible accounting of missing service members.

The Army posts the guard but the guards wear no rank of insignia so as not to outrank the Unknowns. The only time rank is shown is at the changing of the guard but not by either the new or old guard. Outside of Farkland, if any member of the guard were to be identified in a bar, the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard would be lining up in no particular order to buy his (or her) drinks.


Yeah, not so much. I work with TOG soldiers, and it's hard not to giggle at them when they talk about how they can't sit down in their uniforms (goofs up the crease). They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.
 
2012-10-29 07:37:38 PM  

Pincy: I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?


Apparently, working in adverse weather conditions makes you a hero. Which would make me f*cking Superman compared to guys standing in the rain.
 
2012-10-29 07:38:08 PM  
As a mother of sons, I think a death of a soldier is a loss to their family and I identify very strongly with that kind of loss. I am grateful I live in a country where they don't have to go to war. As for honour, that is all a country can offer, an honour guard. I would much rather have them live a full life and have no honour guard. Honour in death is meaningless.
 
2012-10-29 07:38:26 PM  

mr_a: AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

The threat that someone might forget why it is important.


I didn't know there was a guard there. I'm pretty sure I heard about this tomb once when I was a kid, 25 years ago. Heaven forbid the guy would go in and stay warm and we'd "forget" about the tomb.
 
2012-10-29 07:39:06 PM  
this is stupid.
 
2012-10-29 07:43:38 PM  
Latest satellite photo of Sandyi96.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-29 07:51:12 PM  

Pincy: I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?


and you probably never will.
 
2012-10-29 08:08:06 PM  
How do these guys pee?
 
2012-10-29 08:12:02 PM  

xl5150: Newsflash: when you dick around during high school and can't get into college, you'll end up with a job where you'll have to stand outside in the rain. Next up: water is wet.


Right, I never served with any fellow enlisted who had Associate's, Bachelor's or Master's degrees. Nope, never.

-10/10.
 
2012-10-29 08:12:20 PM  

One Bad Apple: AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

Zombies


The threat: lack of respect for those whom gave all, so that you can scratch your nuts in freedom
 
2012-10-29 08:30:49 PM  

Godscrack: How do these guys pee?


Quietly and secretively.
 
2012-10-29 08:35:24 PM  
 
2012-10-29 08:45:37 PM  
Risking your life to protect a dead person. Grow a farking brain!
 
2012-10-29 08:49:20 PM  

FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic:

[media.npr.org image 624x582]

it was actually taken in september.


They point out that exact photo was taken in September, but they also remind us they are out there today (10/29). But I'm sure you slaving away at Mcdonald's so you could come home and derp for not clicking a link makes you feel superior.
 
2012-10-29 08:50:58 PM  

Spiralmonkey: Godscrack: How do these guys pee?

Quietly and secretively.


Before and/or after their 1-hour shift.
 
2012-10-29 08:51:26 PM  

Spiralmonkey: Godscrack: How do these guys pee?

Quietly and secretively.


When do they check their Facebook?
 
2012-10-29 09:02:06 PM  

dragonchild: FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.

Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.


ITG, you're TOTALLY right. HS marching band is WAY more hard core than being a soldier. Maybe you should also teach Seal Team 6 how to LARP - to toughen them up a bit...
 
2012-10-29 09:02:34 PM  

mbillips: Yeah, not so much. I work with TOG soldiers, and it's hard not to giggle at them when they talk about how they can't sit down in their uniforms (goofs up the crease). They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.


Yeah, not so much. Read Me
 
2012-10-29 09:09:43 PM  

skinnycatullus: That's neat and inspiring and whatever, but I have to wonder what they plan to do when 70mph winds start making it hard for them to stand upright or they have to dodge limbs and trash and other projectiles. It's not like all they have to worry about is getting a little wet and cold.


I wonder if it's like Panmunjeom at the DMZ in Korea. The guards don't stand there all day like you see in the pictures. They only come out for tours or if there is tension between the two sides. That's what was told to me by a UN soldier stationed there, anyway. I'm just guessing during the hurricane these guards have a little booth nearby to keep warm and out of the rain?
 
2012-10-29 09:28:48 PM  
Everything is dumb and I hate everything
 
2012-10-29 09:29:08 PM  
I was curious; thought I'd share...

"The rifles currently used by the Honor Guard are M14 rifles. They are fully functional and ready for use, but they are carried unloaded without a magazine inserted.

First, during rifle inspection and handling of the gun there is a danger of an unintentional round being fired. Second, there would rarely be a reason for the use of deadly force. Even if there were a reason, with all the people around there it would be hard to fire a "responsible" shot with the bullet hitting and stopping your intended target and no one else.

That said, inserting a magazine and charging the M14 is a matter of seconds. The Guard, while ceremonial, is the real deal.

There are many rumors surrounding the Tomb Guards, and one is that if you invade the Tomb area you will be shot. This is not true, and if that happened the Guard would be criminally liable. No one will be killed, assaulted, or knifed with the bayonet for the reason of intruding on the Tomb. Regardless of what one may think of the military- they do understand perhaps more than anyone, the concept of the use of deadly force and when it is warranted. A disturber may get arrested at the Tomb, but not killed for such offenses.

To those who may dispute the guns are not loaded- go see the Changing of the Guard or see a video of it. When the inspecting officer approaches the oncoming Guard, the first move the Guard makes is to open the action of the rifle, and peer down into it, just before the inspecting officer snatches it away from him. The purpose of this move is to ensure that the Guard is NOT about to hand over a LOADED firearm to the officer. At no time thereafter is a magazine inserted into the rifle, nor a round inserted at all."
 
2012-10-29 09:39:33 PM  
set derp phasers to "fap"
 
2012-10-29 09:42:47 PM  
This thread has further reaffirmed my belief that no matter what your political affiliation as a FARKer, douchebaggery is bipartisan.
 
2012-10-29 09:44:18 PM  

destrip: To those who may dispute the guns are not loaded- go see the Changing of the Guard or see a video of it. When the inspecting officer approaches the oncoming Guard, the first move the Guard makes is to open the action of the rifle, and peer down into it, just before the inspecting officer snatches it away from him. The purpose of this move is to ensure that the Guard is NOT about to hand over a LOADED firearm to the officer. At no time thereafter is a magazine inserted into the rifle, nor a round inserted at all."


You never have to worry about racking the bolt on a bayonet.
 
2012-10-29 09:45:14 PM  

grahambhg: Risking your life to protect a dead person. Grow a farking brain!


From the FAQ of the Tombguard.org:

Do you guard in a blizzard or a bad thunderstorm?

YES, BUT the accomplishment of the mission and welfare of the Soldier is never put at risk. The Tomb Guards have contingencies that are ready to be executed IF the weather conditions EVER place the Soldiers at risk of injury or death - such as lightning, high winds, etc. This ensures that Sentinels can maintain the Tomb Guard responsibilities while ensuring soldier safety. It is the responsibility of the Chain of Command from the Sergeant of the Guard to the Regimental Commander to ensure mission accomplishment and soldier welfare at all times.
 

https://tombguard.org/society/faq/

As an instructor at a college, I am finding that research is a lost art.
 
2012-10-29 09:45:27 PM  

scavenger: Everything is dumb and I hate everything


This election cycle is making me start to agree with this sentiment.
 
2012-10-29 09:53:16 PM  

dragonchild: Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.


Years from now, when FARK has gone through it's 4th or 5th frontpage format change, this comment will still haunt you. You went beyond full retard. This is category five level megaderp, the likes of which is only seen in 9/11 conspiracy threads, and Obama birth certificate threads.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-29 09:58:06 PM  
Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.
 
2012-10-29 10:02:49 PM  

SoxSweepAgain: Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.


The bodies currently contained in the TotUS are from World War I, World War II, and Korea. Because as we all know, World War II was TOTALLY about the United States' nationalistic superiority.

drollblogtitle.files.wordpress.com

/those who forget history, and the sacrifices made by the men in it, are doomed to repeat its mistakes, and defile everything those men sacrificed for.
 
2012-10-29 10:15:00 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: AdolfOliverPanties: Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

Ok, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, you'll want those guards at that tomb, you'll need those guards at that tomb. To have trained military specialists reanimate and come back from the grave with those skills will prove the deciding factor in the Afterworld. Without those marines there ready to pop one in the skulls of the zombie troops, we could lose the war before it even started!


What Marines? The 3rd US Infantry Regiment (Old Guard) is United States Army. HOOAH, not OO-RAH.
 
2012-10-29 10:22:50 PM  

dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine


I agree that the super-patriot line was uncalled for, but so is your over-reactive snark. You call me a Marine and I'm liable to get real pissed. I'm a soldier.

Call my uncle or either of my godparents - all Marines - soldiers, and you're liable to start a damned fistfight.

Our enemies don't give a royal damn, but yes. We do. And no, service in any of the five branches (yes, Coast Guardsmen are military) doesn't denigrate or diminish service in any other, but I'd be liable to be upset if you called me a sailor, airman, or Coastie/Puddle Pirate too even though I have close relatives and good friends in all of those branches.
 
2012-10-29 10:26:32 PM  

Aigoo: dragonchild: DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.

If I'm wrong I'll concede I'm wrong, but does it really matter to the point of derison? I honestly didn't know and don't care, because I thought the whole point is that the gesture is supposed to mean more than some petty-ass bullshiat rivalry. I thought that the Tomb is supposed represent ALL nameless Americans who fell in battle, but if this means so much I guess we exclude some and not others based on where they served. That tremendously cheapens the gesture itself to the point of idiotic, but given its importance I guess it's helpful to know for future reference.

/ As if our enemies give a shiat if someone they kill in battle is a soldier or a Marine

I agree that the super-patriot line was uncalled for, but so is your over-reactive snark. You call me a Marine and I'm liable to get real pissed. I'm a soldier.

Call my uncle or either of my godparents - all Marines - soldiers, and you're liable to start a damned fistfight.

Our enemies don't give a royal damn, but yes. We do. And no, service in any of the five branches (yes, Coast Guardsmen are military) doesn't denigrate or diminish service in any other, but I'd be liable to be upset if you called me a sailor, airman, or Coastie/Puddle Pirate too even though I have close relatives and good friends in all of those branches.


You don't know what it was like in the Marching Band, Aigoo. They had to do things. Unspeakable things.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-29 10:26:38 PM  
Holy shiat! A family friend's kid is one of the guys that is there. I am sure he's fine. His dad recounted this weekend the competition, between William and his sister, that was who could slit the most turkey necks in one day. The kids were in competition to slit turkey necks. In elementary school. His dad was a marine too so, he's fine. His dad probably made him stand out in a storm just so he could get tough.
 
2012-10-29 10:29:41 PM  

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


That and being charged for insubordination should you refuse to do it helps...
 
2012-10-29 10:46:02 PM  

teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines Core."


FTFY
 
2012-10-29 10:47:12 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: The threat that someone might forget why it is important.

That's probably it. That is what I would have gone with if I was the guy who came up with the idea of posting a guard there for eternity and was trying to sell it to the brass.

Either that or tell people the Holy Grail is inside.


Or we could just with your whore mom being inside.
 
2012-10-29 10:58:53 PM  

Tumunga: teto85: "Should the Army or the Navy ever glance on heaven's scenes,
They will find the streets are guarded by the United States Marines Core."

FTFY


Is that an alt FlyNavy?
 
2012-10-29 11:07:15 PM  
It doesn't surprise me that so many Farkers don't understand the meaning or point of honor. As for my brothers in the Old Guard I give a hearty HOOAH! It sucks out there right now.
 
2012-10-29 11:12:13 PM  

James!: If it's just a little wind and rain why is it impressive that they're standing out in it?


It's not.

The thing is, some people actually think that if you point out that standing in the rain (or much fouler conditions) is something that many of us have done (and isn't a big deal), you are thereby taking a big dump on the memory of the American soldiers who died in war, as well as those who are now in uniform.

Yes, it is breathtakingly stupid, but some people "think" this way.
 
2012-10-29 11:28:09 PM  

BronyMedic: dragonchild: Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.

Years from now, when FARK has gone through it's 4th or 5th frontpage format change, this comment will still haunt you. You went beyond full retard. This is category five level megaderp, the likes of which is only seen in 9/11 conspiracy threads, and Obama birth certificate threads.


[i.imgur.com image 850x64]


I'm not really sure why that post upset you so much. Personally, I have dragonchild favourited for a post he made last year on downgrading the military. It was a very well reasoned position. This whole story, the September image being used now as a strange "Our armed forces also are outside" statement, is odd to me. I'm just really not sure what your beef is with dragonchild here. It's like..... his opinion man.
 
2012-10-29 11:46:58 PM  
This was a good thread for taking care of s'more ignore list additions.

thanks for participating all.
 
2012-10-29 11:48:53 PM  

JohnCarter: They guard in the snow

[usarmy.vo.llnwd.net image 640x425]

and dark of night

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Link
And put douche-bag visitors in their place when appropriate.
 
2012-10-29 11:53:30 PM  

SoxSweepAgain: Symbolism and nationalism are SO important!

/Silly.


I know, it may be hard to accept. But some things were, are and will always be a lot bigger than you.
 
2012-10-29 11:55:22 PM  

Acharne: I'm not really sure why that post upset you so much. Personally, I have dragonchild favourited for a post he made last year on downgrading the military. It was a very well reasoned position. This whole story, the September image being used now as a strange "Our armed forces also are outside" statement, is odd to me. I'm just really not sure what your beef is with dragonchild here. It's like..... his opinion man.


Except it's not being used as that. It's being used to show the dedication and honor these men have. This is not an assignment that people are given in the Military unless they are considered some of the best in terms of their behavior and discipline. These people volunteered to serve as the honor guard for men that they never met, but who made not only the ultimate sacrifice of their lives to stop some of the greatest evil - and yes, that's the word for it, evil. - that the world has ever known, but made the even greater sacrifice of their names to history, becoming those who fell who will forever be lost to the whispers of history.

You can disagree with the size, or the funding amount, of the military all you like. We have the most wasteful, bloated military in the history of the world, and procurement practices that would make even the most corrupt Italian look on in horror.

But don't spit on the name of those who truly made the ultimate sacrifice, or those who choose to uphold and honor their memory with one of the most grueling posts in the United States military. 

The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity, and then not only insulted the branch of service they're in, but also implied that the only reason it was done was out of jingoistic nationalism to stir up fervor for the next brushfire war, and find something completely offensive about it, disturbs me.
 
2012-10-30 12:06:33 AM  

suburbanguy: dragonchild: FlashHarry: not giving townhall a click, but if it's this pic: it was actually taken in september.

Not to mention I've marched in far worse weather than that. . . in a marching band. We're known more for being on the receiving end of atomic wedgies than bravery. They wouldn't actually be doing that in hurricane-force winds anyway because anyone standing at attention would be blown over. That they can stand upright at all means that picture really is just "a little wind and rain".

There's plenty to praise the USMC about without having to resort to glorifying guard duty.

ITG, you're TOTALLY right. HS marching band is WAY more hard core than being a soldier. Maybe you should also teach Seal Team 6 how to LARP - to toughen them up a bit...


Yeah I'm not sure how pointing out that dealing with shiatty weather is not necessarily heroic means he's thumping his chest. You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.
 
2012-10-30 12:07:30 AM  

mbillips: They do wear normal rank insignia when serving as Sentinels.


No, they do not. The charge of the watch who changes the guard does, but the ones walking the mat do not.
 
2012-10-30 12:33:33 AM  
With bayonets, Obama ... with GD bayonets you effing loser ....
 
2012-10-30 12:37:37 AM  

Cucullen: Yeah I'm not sure how pointing out that dealing with shiatty weather is not necessarily heroic means he's thumping his chest. You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.


Nobody said they were "heroic". And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard. Multiple slams were deserved.
 
2012-10-30 12:49:28 AM  

Pray 4 Mojo: And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard.


You should try listening to yourself speak sometime then, or proofreading :). But seriously marching in the rain is marching in the rain after about 15 minutes. It sucks. The only difference here is that these guys have a grand and noble idea about what they are doing to help keep their moral up. Thats more than most jobs will afford you, let alone being in some lame ass high school band.
 
2012-10-30 12:51:21 AM  

Cucullen: You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.


Wow. You actually used implied homosexuality as an insult?

Congratulations. You're now Honey Boo Boo.

How'd you know I love gay soldiers, by the way?

3.bp.blogspot.com
www.ontopmag.com
www.nowtheendbegins.com
i4.mirror.co.uk

I have far more respect for them than someone who would come on the internet and talk tough.
 
2012-10-30 01:19:13 AM  

Cucullen: Pray 4 Mojo: And comparing marching band in the rain to this is the most stupidest farking thing I've ever heard.

You should try listening to yourself speak sometime then, or proofreading :). But seriously marching in the rain is marching in the rain after about 15 minutes. It sucks. The only difference here is that these guys have a grand and noble idea about what they are doing to help keep their moral up. Thats more than most jobs will afford you, let alone being in some lame ass high school band.


Granted it's not funny... but that;s the joke.
 
2012-10-30 02:21:13 AM  

BronyMedic: Cucullen: You and brony clearly got some kinda 'thing' for military guys tho, and don't like anyone talking trash about your imaginary top. You should know that guarding a farking tomb is a shiat post tho, no matter how much bs you toss around its boring as hell. It sucks even worse in the rain. At least in the frankenstorm you got people writing about how awesome you are, that's gotta be a step up from no one giving a shiat and being bored.

Wow. You actually used implied homosexuality as an insult?

Congratulations. You're now Honey Boo Boo.

How'd you know I love gay soldiers, by the way?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 635x441]
[www.ontopmag.com image 300x200]
[www.nowtheendbegins.com image 450x313]
[i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

I have far more respect for them than someone who would come on the internet and talk tough.


That last picture..... oh yeah
I'll be in my bunk
 
2012-10-30 03:00:51 AM  

BronyMedic: Except it's not being used as that. It's being used to show the dedication and honor these men have. This is not an assignment that people are given in the Military unless they are considered some of the best in terms of their behavior and discipline. These people volunteered to serve as the honor guard for men that they never met, but who made not only the ultimate sacrifice of their lives to stop some of the greatest evil - and yes, that's the word for it, evil. - that the world has ever known, but made the even greater sacrifice of their names to history, becoming those who fell who will forever be lost to the whispers of history.


I'll never understand how this subject turns grown-ass men into pearl-clutching church ladies.

Brony, there's appreciating people's service to their country, and then there's an unhealthy level of military hero-worship. I think you might be approaching the latter. Some people in the Armed Forces lay down their lives for other people. So do some firefighters, cops, hazmat workers, peace corps volunteers, photojournalists, and people in many other professions. Not every single thing these guys do needs to be fawned over, like it's some religion-of-war miracle. These dudes stand an honor guard in the rain. But you know what?... the mail got delivered today too.

Maybe you could dial back the fervor a few notches and give dragonchild a break. He made a reasonable point. (Also, giggle about marching bands all you like, but those DCI guys can out-precision march the best the Armed Forces has to offer, drunk and blindfolded. Yeah, that's right.)
 
2012-10-30 03:57:51 AM  

BronyMedic: The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity, and then not only insulted the branch of service they're in, but also implied that the only reason it was done was out of jingoistic nationalism to stir up fervor for the next brushfire war, and find something completely offensive about it, disturbs me.


Well, don't let it disturb you. I had no idea what guarding that tomb meant in relationship to the military until you just told me. I knew about the tomb, but not that guarding it was a duty given to a special few. I do appreciate you explaining it. I figured you would, that's why I asked. Though I get my fair share of American culture way up here in Canada, some subtleties will be missed. What I have realised from that is that I have no business questioning your reaction to him.
 
2012-10-30 07:18:54 AM  

BronyMedic: The fact that you can't see that this man compared an honor guard for these men to a frigging band camp activity


Did I? I wasn't aware of that.

My only point is that marching in a September rain isn't the worst that these guys go through -- or pretty much anyone who works outside for a living. Marching bands do it all the time, and we're known for being pussies. I'm supposed to be impressed?

That says nothing about their qualities. That's another discussion. I'm just saying the picture making the rounds on the Internet warrants a big fat "meh". I'm not making fun of the guys themselves, or the tomb, or our Armed Services. I am making fun of the hilariously precious snowflake who is somehow successfully fooling the Internets into mistaking a nice autumn rain for a hurricane. It's not that the guys ain't tough. It's that that particular picture is what most in the Army would call "Tuesday".
 
2012-10-30 07:32:58 AM  

Aigoo: You call me a Marine and I'm liable to get real pissed. I'm a soldier.


As an interpreter I was once confused for a bellhop. I honestly don't know how, but the misunderstanding was cleared up with any need for fistfights. People make mistakes; get over it. At least with the military there's no public perception that one is less honorable than the other. When someone walks up to you asking to see your biatches, it's time to get worried.
 
2012-10-30 07:38:17 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Ah, The Tomb of the Unknowns, where America's military romanticists go get dewy-eyed for the dead, then go home and happily cheer on the next war.


Warm and filling is the bowls of patriotic propaganda porridge swallowed by those willing to do or die, spoon fed to them by fearless leaders whose sons and daughters are safe and warm back at home. It's a filling stew from a bottomless bowl courtesy of Daddy Warbucks families who make great coin from your children dying around the world. Keep telling yourself it's for the red white and blue as you bury your boys while Senators and Congress laugh at you.
 
2012-10-30 10:25:38 AM  
People are entitled to their opinions, but there's been only 600 people eligible to serve as the tomb guard over the last 54 years, I think there's been a few more band members that that:

After serving honorably for a period of nine months, and having passed the sequence of tests, a Tomb Guard is permanently awarded the Badge. Since the first award on February 7, 1958, fewer than 600 soldiers have completed training and been awarded this Badge, including three women. A small number of Tomb Guard Identification Badges have also been retroactively awarded to soldiers who served as Guards before 1959. Those numbers make the Badge the second rarest award currently issued in the United States Army; only the Army Astronaut Badge is rarer.

I also wouldn't compare spending 10 minutes performing at halftime during a high school football game to spending up to 2 hours (after the cemetery closes the guards switch to 2 hour shifts) in the dark and bad weather, even in the depths of winter.

i.imgur.com

And for those who think it's a bunch of military/industrial jingo, there are many countries around the world who think it's worthwhile to honor their unidentified dead.
 
2012-10-30 10:27:41 AM  

davidphogan: The WindowLicker: henryhill: The act would be ALOT more impressive if this was something that NEEDED to be done.

It depends on what you mean by NEEDED. Nothing critical will fail if they don't guard it, nobody will immediately die, or even risk their health. However, the Old Guard are constantly reminding us that war comes with casualties. They are "building awareness" and more importantly ensuring that the public and the military both reflect on the historic and ongoing costs of war. I think that is something that Needs to be done.

For maximum impact it needs to be done at all times, not just when it is convenient. It is sort of like any other 'support the troops' activity. The only difference here is that they are actually doing it.

/10/10 A+ subby

I'm glad they build awareness that people die during wars. I'd never have known that otherwise, just like I never heard of breast cancer until the NFL went pink.

Thank goodness for all this good people do by doing meaningless but symbolic gestures in the name of awareness.


Having a gesture that is symbolic means that it is NOT meaningless. The gesture represents something regardless if you agree with it or not. I like it. It reminds me that the world isn't just the narrow focus of my own life. It's about the loss of someone who deserves some sort of justice. The body in that tomb IS a person and they deserve to be remembered, because by remembering things like this we hope to keep them from happening again. It makes us hope for something better.
 
2012-10-30 11:15:21 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: The lack of knowledge of just who guards the Tomb of the Unknowns among the Fark Super Patriottm is
disturbing but, alas, not at all surprising.


The U.S. ARMY. I would like to point out to the goobers talking about the Marines guarding the tomb that Army dress blues have a gold stripe down the side of the leg. Marine dress blues have a red stripe.

/If you're trolling by saying Marine, then carry on.
//If not then [themoreyouknow.jpg]
 
2012-10-30 11:36:43 AM  

OgreMagi: AdolfOliverPanties: mr_a: Some things are just more important than the weather.

Like guarding a tomb? What threat are they really expecting there?

That whooshing sound is the point going over your head.

Honor is more important than the weather.


Very well said, some folks will never understand.
 
2012-10-30 11:55:09 AM  
Not sure if the lot of you are trolling or what, but what does the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier have to do with USMC, when it is guarded by a US Soldier

These guys are legit. Anybody who argues differently has no sense of Honor or Commitment and their opinions show only an exceptional level of ignorance.
 
2012-10-30 12:22:43 PM  

KrispyKritter: REO-Weedwagon: Ah, The Tomb of the Unknowns, where America's military romanticists go get dewy-eyed for the dead, then go home and happily cheer on the next war.

Warm and filling is the bowls of patriotic propaganda porridge swallowed by those willing to do or die, spoon fed to them by fearless leaders whose sons and daughters are safe and warm back at home. It's a filling stew from a bottomless bowl courtesy of Daddy Warbucks families who make great coin from your children dying around the world. Keep telling yourself it's for the red white and blue as you bury your boys while Senators and Congress laugh at you.


After reading your postings these past few months and looking at your profile I must conclude that you truly are the most miserable person on the planet. You just won't stop filling every thread with scorn and derision no matter what the subject matter. It's not everyone elses fault you haven't gotten any stank on the hang low since Eisenhower was a 2LT. Go hire a hooker and get happy!
 
2012-10-30 03:48:58 PM  

Metetron: Pincy: I'm not quite sure what is "hero" about this story?

and you probably never will.


So you don't know either. I thought so.
 
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