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2012-10-29 10:47:00 PM

puffy999: There's no way that you can argue with a straight face that San Francisco has half of the offensive talent the Yankees had.

Of course, Derek Jeter is simply a good hitting shortstop. That's it.

Buster Posey is a good hitting catcher who calls a GREAT game, and makes his pitchers better.

So, yeah, it's an insult to Buster Posey, IMO, to make the comparison. He has a much harder job, with less talent to work with. Yes, they have Cain (and a struggling Lincecum), go ahead and try to tell me how Vogelsong is the Roger Clemens of the Giants.


Well, I'm convinced. Why even wait for his retirement; let's just go ahead and vote Buster farking Posey into the Hall -right now-.
 
2012-10-29 10:49:02 PM
But, in spite of all of that, Jeter is a first-ballot HOFer. He'll probably receive over 97% of the vote, which may be undeserved, but he's definitely first-ballot.
 
2012-10-29 10:50:36 PM

The Bestest: Why even wait for his retirement; let's just go ahead and vote Buster farking Posey into the Hall -right now-.


I didn't say anything about him being in the HOF.

Bo Jackson was a better running back than Emmit Smith, but he didn't make it to the HOF. Lincecum, at one point, was the best pitcher in the league, but unless he gets his shiat together he may not make it himself.
 
2012-10-29 10:53:27 PM
But, no, I reiterate that to compare what the two did is not really fair: Buster has a much harder job, and in reality he's "comparable" to Jeter in Jeter's strong-suit (hitting), at least so far in his career.
 
2012-10-29 11:40:00 PM
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"No... I don't catch for the Giants! GOSH!"
 
2012-10-30 12:03:41 AM
Buster Posey can be compared to no one. In a few years, they'll be hyping the "next Buster Posey".

Remember- this was just his 1st full season. The best is yet to come.
 
2012-10-30 12:27:31 AM

Glenechocreek: Buster Posey can be compared to no one. In a few years, they'll be hyping the "next Buster Posey".

Remember- this was just his 1st full season. The best is yet to come.


.. or he could turn into Mauer.
 
2012-10-30 03:05:27 AM

puffy999: There's no way that you can argue with a straight face that San Francisco has half of the offensive talent the Yankees had.

Of course, Derek Jeter is simply a good hitting shortstop. That's it.

Buster Posey is a good hitting catcher who calls a GREAT game, and makes his pitchers better.

So, yeah, it's an insult to Buster Posey, IMO, to make the comparison. He has a much harder job, with less talent to work with. Yes, they have Cain (and a struggling Lincecum), go ahead and try to tell me how Vogelsong is the Roger Clemens of the Giants.


13 Mike Figga 6-00 200 Right Right 1970-07-31
25 Joe Girardi 5-11 195 Right Right 1964-10-14
20 Jorge Posada 6-02 190 Right Both 1971-08-17
18 Scott Brosius 6-01 185 Right Right 1966-08-15
22 Homer Bush 5-11 180 Right Right 1972-11-12
2 Derek Jeter 6-03 195 Right Right 1974-06-26
11 Chuck Knoblauch 5-09 181 Right Right 1968-07-07
60 Mike Lowell 6-04 205 Right Right 1974-02-24
24 Tino Martinez 6-02 210 Right Left 1967-12-07
19 Luis Sojo 5-11 174 Right Right 1965-01-03
17 Dale Sveum 6-03 185 Right Both 1963-11-23
28 Chad Curtis 5-10 175 Right Right 1968-11-06
38 Ricky Ledee 6-01 225 Left Left 1973-11-22
21 Paul O'Neill 6-04 215 Left Left 1963-02-25
47 Shane Spencer 5-11 225 Right Right 1972-02-20
51 Bernie Williams 6-02 205 Right Both 1968-09-13
45 Chili Davis 6-03 210 Right Both 1960-01-17
31 Tim Raines 5-08 178 Right Both 1959-09-16
39 Darryl Strawberry 6-06 200 Left Left 1962-03-12

Wow, what a humongous dream team!!! Oh wait, it's mostly nobodies with a bunch of rookies and some washed up veterans that never were that great anyway.

farking Darryl Strawberry after doing 10 tons of coke

Uh, this is the 1998 Yankees we're talking about not The Expendables version of the team in the 2000s. They were great TEAM, where everybody contributed instead of relying on a couple of stars, that's how they got 4 in 5.

So no, they're actually comparable teams.
 
2012-10-30 08:50:24 AM
I knew this article was coming. I'm a damn soothsayer.
 
2012-10-30 08:59:52 AM

mitchcumstein1: No way does Buster Posey get the high quality tail that Derek Jeter gets. The man is on DiCaprio/Clooney/Timberlake levels, if not higher.


He's a bottom catcher in San Francisco, wrong team.
 
2012-10-30 10:25:13 AM

The Bestest: OK, let's say you stick A-Rod at SS and banish Jeter to the outfield, who do you get to play 3B to get a net gain in runs as opposed to A-Rod at 3B, Jeter at SS and power in the OF?


There was also some concern about A-Rod's long term ability to play SS. He has bulked up since then and his defensive value dropped starting in 2005, despite playing an easier position.
 
2012-10-30 10:58:45 AM

rocky_howard: puffy999: ***snip***


That team wins the most-funny-sounding names award hands down.

//Also, how many of those guys are coaching or managing right now? Seems like most of them.
 
2012-10-30 12:54:39 PM

Cyberluddite: mitchcumstein1: No way does Buster Posey get the high quality tail that Derek Jeter gets. The man is on DiCaprio/Clooney/Timberlake levels, if not higher.

Posey is married to his high school girlfriend, and while I'm pretty sure he's not out chasing poontang like Jeter does, it's also true that his wife (in the striped shirt in the pic below) is pretty hot, though:

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Another view:

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I misread that as Busty Poser and was about to leave the thread in disappointment when this scrolled into view. I owe you pictures of a hottie in a thread that doesn't otherwise appeal to you, good sir.
 
2012-10-30 01:13:55 PM

puffy999: Of course, Derek Jeter is simply a good hitting shortstop. That's it.

Buster Posey is a good hitting catcher who calls a GREAT game, and makes his pitchers better.


Beat me to it. But then, I am a Florida State grad.
 
2012-10-30 01:14:19 PM
The author of the article (John Shea) made a foolish comparison between a catcher and a shortstop, a player beginning his career and a player near the end of his career, a guy playing on the west coast and a guy who has played his entire career with the New York Yankees. The comparison was born of wishful thinking on the part of the Chronicle staff writer in the wake of a World Series win. If you find yourself getting worked up over something printed by a Chronicle sports writer you might want to step back and consider the source.
 
2012-10-30 01:21:44 PM

The Bestest: zarberg: Why Would I Read the Article: No, because Buster Posey is a fantastic defensive player, and not a huge liability.

Came here to say more or less this.

Jeter isn't the worst defensively, but he's been in the bottom 50% of players at his position defensively for most of his career. He has an amazing ability to turn routine ground balls into diving/sliding/spinning highlight plays.

*eyeroll, no further comment*


There's actually something to be said for that. I don't watch a lot of Yankees baseball, so i can't speak to Jeter specifically, but it's a common epidemic for fans to misinterpret what they see from fielders. Guys who make great diving or sliding catches are perfect for highlight shows, but I'll take a guy with more speed who makes it look routine.
 
2012-10-30 01:32:28 PM
Leyland extended one year.
 
2012-10-30 01:42:55 PM

puffy999: There's no way that you can argue with a straight face that San Francisco has half of the offensive talent the Yankees had.

Of course, Derek Jeter is simply a good hitting shortstop. That's it.

Buster Posey is a good hitting catcher who calls a GREAT game, and makes his pitchers better.

So, yeah, it's an insult to Buster Posey, IMO, to make the comparison. He has a much harder job, with less talent to work with. Yes, they have Cain (and a struggling Lincecum), go ahead and try to tell me how Vogelsong is the Roger Clemens of the Giants.


It's fair today that Posey at age 25 > Jeter at age 25. But there were a lot of guys who were better at 25 than Jeter. Jeter's career, however, has been stellar. Posey has a llllllloooooooooottttttttttttt of work to do to match Jeter's total body of work
 
2012-10-30 03:01:54 PM

Orgasmatron138:
There's actually something to be said for that. I don't watch a lot of Yankees baseball, so i can't speak to Jeter specifically, but it's a common epidemic for fans to misinterpret what they see from fielders. Guys who make great diving or sliding catches are perfect for highlight shows, but I'll take a guy with more speed who makes it look routine.


Range Factor. Jeter is barely in the top 250
 
2012-10-30 03:33:21 PM

zarberg: Orgasmatron138:
There's actually something to be said for that. I don't watch a lot of Yankees baseball, so i can't speak to Jeter specifically, but it's a common epidemic for fans to misinterpret what they see from fielders. Guys who make great diving or sliding catches are perfect for highlight shows, but I'll take a guy with more speed who makes it look routine.

Range Factor. Jeter is barely in the top 250


Jim Edmonds was a master of purposely making catches look harder than they were.
 
2012-10-30 03:49:58 PM

Orgasmatron138: zarberg: Orgasmatron138:
There's actually something to be said for that. I don't watch a lot of Yankees baseball, so i can't speak to Jeter specifically, but it's a common epidemic for fans to misinterpret what they see from fielders. Guys who make great diving or sliding catches are perfect for highlight shows, but I'll take a guy with more speed who makes it look routine.

Range Factor. Jeter is barely in the top 250

Jim Edmonds was a master of purposely making catches look harder than they were.


Indeed.

I vaguely remember Lenny Dykstra being talented in that regard as well.
 
2012-10-30 09:18:48 PM
Peavy re-signed, Youk a free agent
Detroit announced they will not be re-signing Valverde or Delmon Young.
 
2012-10-30 10:42:21 PM
..and speaking of the Gold Gloves, this year's winners:

AL
Weiters, Teixeira, Cano, Adrian Beltre, JJ Hardy, Alex Gordon, Adam Jones, Reddick

NL
Yadi, Laroche, Barney, Headley, Rollins, Carlos Gonzalez, McCutchen, Jason Heyward

they haven't announced pitchers yet
 
2012-10-31 01:31:57 AM

The Bestest: ..and speaking of the Gold Gloves, this year's winners:

AL
Weiters, Teixeira, Cano, Adrian Beltre, JJ Hardy, Alex Gordon, Adam Jones, Reddick

NL
Yadi, Laroche, Barney, Headley, Rollins, Carlos Gonzalez, McCutchen, Jason Heyward

they haven't announced pitchers yet


---

If Brandon Crawford didn't have issues in the 1st month he wins the SS GG hands down. See you at the parade tomorrow: GIANTS!
 
2012-10-31 04:48:16 PM
No.

Next thread, please.
 
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