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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Robert Kirkman discusses what we can expect from Futurama's biggest fan, Walking Dead's infamous Governor   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 104
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2012-10-29 11:43:03 AM  
Well, he won't have the head of Richard Nixon to kick around anymore, A-ROOOO!
 
2012-10-29 11:45:20 AM  
Before anyone asks- no, Carl is NOT in the house.
 
2012-10-29 11:47:01 AM  
I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please, but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

I get this Governor is a controlling dude and we don't know what's going on there yet, but the people SEEMED pretty content with the safety in Woodbury.

It hasn't been that long since this all started. it's season 3 but really only it's been, what, a year maybe?

I don't know..... I just doubt I would be mowing lawns and playing in the streets.
 
2012-10-29 11:50:10 AM  

buntz: I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please, but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.


I think many people would find a lot of comfort, or ability to hide from the inevitable psychosis, by returning to dull, trudging chores from the past.


Best episode in the longest doesn't feature any of the regulars but Andrea. Makes sense in a an odd way with no Lori or Carl to be irritated with.
 
2012-10-29 11:51:20 AM  

buntz: I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please, but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

I get this Governor is a controlling dude and we don't know what's going on there yet, but the people SEEMED pretty content with the safety in Woodbury.

It hasn't been that long since this all started. it's season 3 but really only it's been, what, a year maybe?

I don't know..... I just doubt I would be mowing lawns and playing in the streets.


Probably like after a year of wandering around fearing for your life every waking second without any survivalist instincts, you come across a walled town with food, water, and protected by dudes with guns and decide that you'd do anything just to stop being afraid.
 
2012-10-29 11:53:11 AM  

buntz: I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please, but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

I get this Governor is a controlling dude and we don't know what's going on there yet, but the people SEEMED pretty content with the safety in Woodbury.

It hasn't been that long since this all started. it's season 3 but really only it's been, what, a year maybe?

I don't know..... I just doubt I would be mowing lawns and playing in the streets.


I think that's the point. Seeing people act 'normal', especially after the brutality of taking the prison, seems completely jarring and utterly fake. Michonne is clearly...uh, (not spooked, that's bad, choose another word) upset by it. I think Andrea wants to believe it can last and wants in on some of that manly Governor action.
 
2012-10-29 11:55:35 AM  

rudemix: buntz: I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please, but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

I think many people would find a lot of comfort, or ability to hide from the inevitable psychosis, by returning to dull, trudging chores from the past.


Exactly. The Governor is offering them a return to normalcy after months of living hell, and a lot of people are going to welcome a return to something that resembles a normal life and will even be willing to overlook the darkness that drive the Governor and his cruel methods. Compared to the alternatives, he is a godsend, which is why he holds so much power over their hearts and their minds.
 
2012-10-29 11:57:04 AM  
I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?

Also, projecting ahead- Andrea and Michonne have no idea where the prison is. How will these two groups interact?
 
2012-10-29 11:57:45 AM  
I see all your points. It's just not something *I* would be doing.

But all this aside, can we ALL agree that Chris Hardwick is a douche of the highest caliber and that Talking Dead show is pointless?
He has on stars or show creators that can't and won't discuss anything worthwhile so it's basically just him sitting there geeking out over the show?

(also, he mentioned porn 4 times in 1/2 hour last night). Seriously, what's up with this guy??
 
2012-10-29 11:59:39 AM  

kumanoki: I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?

Also, projecting ahead- Andrea and Michonne have no idea where the prison is. How will these two groups interact?


The prison isn't that far from the farm. Guess once Andrea tells them where the farm is located, they will do a search.
 
2012-10-29 12:00:38 PM  
Good, people, good. Keep buying those Walking Dead Season DVD collections.

I figure as soon as Kirkman becomes a billionaire, he'll launch his own media empire, and that's when I can expect my Allen the Alien saturday morning cartoon to become reality. Zombies are just a dwindling fad. Cyclops ETs are the coming thing.

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/link is hot like a nova in your backyard.
 
2012-10-29 12:04:17 PM  

buntz: I see all your points. It's just not something *I* would be doing.

But all this aside, can we ALL agree that Chris Hardwick is a douche of the highest caliber and that Talking Dead show is pointless?
He has on stars or show creators that can't and won't discuss anything worthwhile so it's basically just him sitting there geeking out over the show?

(also, he mentioned porn 4 times in 1/2 hour last night). Seriously, what's up with this guy??


I agree with you about my choice, just saying I think many would embrace old life-style drudging real quick. I think I'd have been losing my shiat the second my weapons had been taken. In that world I would consider the loss of weapons, a death sentence for the loser and a capital offense for the one who takes them. Only my opinion, but I think I'd have serious anxiety until I had something skull crushable in my hands.
 
2012-10-29 12:09:23 PM  
I hope that whatever it is that the series returns to having coherent story lines where you can't tell when they handed off a plot to another writer. The movies were pretty bad across the board with some really shining spots.

/just wanted to vomit an opinion about Futurama
 
2012-10-29 12:11:48 PM  
So was the helicopter shot down?

/not sure if I heard a shot or not...
 
2012-10-29 12:14:59 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I hope that whatever it is that the series returns to having coherent story lines where you can't tell when they handed off a plot to another writer. The movies were pretty bad across the board with some really shining spots.

/just wanted to vomit an opinion about Futurama


No your right. The movies were terrible, as was most of season 5. But season 6 was mostly great asides from maybe 2-3 duds (out of 12 isn't bad) and Season 7 has been funny what ive seen of it.
 
2012-10-29 12:16:30 PM  

PsyLord: So was the helicopter shot down?

/not sure if I heard a shot or not...


For sure.
 
2012-10-29 12:20:06 PM  

majestic: PsyLord: So was the helicopter shot down?

/not sure if I heard a shot or not...

For sure.


I think it was left ambiguous enough so that we would all speculate about whether or not it was, endlessly, today on Fark.com. That was Kirkman's intent. There will be an interview about this where he's vague as shiat about it tomorrow.
 
2012-10-29 12:21:04 PM  

Shakes999: Season 7 has been funny what ive seen of it.


Season 5 was what turned me off of the series. I'll have to check out series 7, though. There's absolutely no reason why that shouldn't be one of the smartest and funniest shows on TV right now.
 
2012-10-29 12:22:21 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Shakes999: Season 7 has been funny what ive seen of it.

Season 5 was what turned me off of the series. I'll have to check out series 7, though. There's absolutely no reason why that shouldn't be one of the smartest and funniest shows on TV right now.


Futurama suffers from Moonlighting syndrome. The tension is gone.
 
2012-10-29 12:22:44 PM  

bill4935: Good, people, good. Keep buying those Walking Dead Season DVD collections.

I figure as soon as Kirkman becomes a billionaire, he'll launch his own media empire, and that's when I can expect my Allen the Alien saturday morning cartoon to become reality. Zombies are just a dwindling fad. Cyclops ETs are the coming thing.

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/link is hot like a nova in your backyard.


Glad I'm not the only person that loves Allen the Alien! One of my all time favorite comicbook characters. I like Invincible more than Walking Dead. A little more humorous and more fun to read. Walking Dead graphic novel is just depressing and is becoming a grind. Kirkman needs to end it, explain the zombie outbreak, or something. It's getting to be as depressing to read as Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" novel.

The Rise of the Governor novel by Kirkman is worth reading if you are a Walking Dead fan and want to know more about him.
 
2012-10-29 12:27:24 PM  
 
2012-10-29 12:29:41 PM  
buntz: But all this aside, can we ALL agree that Chris Hardwick is a douche of the highest caliber and that Talking Dead show is pointless?

We can absolutely agree to that, yes.
 
2012-10-29 12:30:03 PM  

bill4935: Good, people, good. Keep buying those Walking Dead Season DVD collections.

I figure as soon as Kirkman becomes a billionaire, he'll launch his own media empire, and that's when I can expect my Allen the Alien saturday morning cartoon to become reality. Zombies are just a dwindling fad. Cyclops ETs are the coming thing.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x237]

/link is hot like a nova in your backyard.


Seriously. I've stopped reading Walking Dead several times just because I got bored with it but I still pick up Invincible every month. It's definitely the best thing he writes.
 
2012-10-29 12:40:04 PM  

buntz: but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.


That's exactly the sort of stuff that people would love to do in the event of the zombie apocolypse. A return to some sort of "normalcy" can do wonders for your mental well-being in times of strife.
 
2012-10-29 12:44:43 PM  
I know one thing... the taking of the army troops was totally bullshiat. Even the smallest group of soldiers know to secure a perimeter in any situation. Total bullshiat.
 
2012-10-29 12:45:56 PM  

buntz: but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy


Never underestimate people's need to accept some kind of normalcy after a disaster. Even if the person offering it wants to own you.

PsyLord: So was the helicopter shot down?


I assumed it was mechanical failure. The pilot even said that the chopper was beat up pretty badly during the evacuation from their camp when all hell broke loose.
 
2012-10-29 12:48:10 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: The +101 internets comment by NeoCortex42 which inspired the headline (scroll down for the comic book visual).


Thanks. I wonder if I can stockpile internets in case of zombie apocalypse.
 
2012-10-29 01:00:35 PM  

solokumba: I know one thing... the taking of the army troops was totally bullshiat. Even the smallest group of soldiers know to secure a perimeter in any situation. Total bullshiat.


Actually they were national guardsmen so they're not going to be full on soldiers. I'll give them a pass on not being 100% secure. Also when somebody drives up in a car. You don't expect them to start shooting immediately. You're looking for walkers.

/put me in the chopper was shot down camp.
 
2012-10-29 01:02:02 PM  

buntz: But all this aside, can we ALL agree that Chris Hardwick is a douche of the highest caliber and that Talking Dead show is pointless?


I'd just say they're both pointless. But, if you absolutely need something resembling an entertainer for your knock-off of a knock-off of a knock-off show, the John Oates to 90s Jenny McCarthy's Darryl Hall will do.
 
2012-10-29 01:02:14 PM  
Anything less that what he did in the comics will be a disappointment. This is AMCs big chance to really piss off a varety women's groups.
 
2012-10-29 01:03:09 PM  

kumanoki: I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?

Also, projecting ahead- Andrea and Michonne have no idea where the prison is. How will these two groups interact?


I was wondering the exact same thing, myself. Not spoiling anything here - in the comics, Michonne discovered the prison first, and then went to the crashed helicopter before being taken by the Governor's people, thus creating a link from the prison to Woodbury. But in the TV series, there's no link, so far. Supposedly, the farm's supposed to be close to the prison, but I don't believe that's the case. I believe 7-8 months went by from the time they left the farm to discovering the prison. I believe the reason why they revealed the prison so quickly at the end of last season was to appease frustrated fans who wanted to see faster plot progression.

And by the way, EXCELLENT casting of the Governor. Guy is both seemingly friendly and genuinely frightening and violent. No way that Danny Trejo could've done any better.
 
2012-10-29 01:04:54 PM  
I briefly saw an image during a commercial break last night that was something like "Robert Kirkman's favorite changes for the TV show story". It was up only for a short while, and I wasn't paying close enough attention when it did come up. Did anybody happen to get a screencap?
 
2012-10-29 01:06:55 PM  

buntz: He has on stars or show creators that can't and won't discuss anything worthwhile so it's basically just him sitting there geeking out over the show?


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2012-10-29 01:07:09 PM  

NeoCortex42: I briefly saw an image during a commercial break last night that was something like "Robert Kirkman's favorite changes for the TV show story". It was up only for a short while, and I wasn't paying close enough attention when it did come up. Did anybody happen to get a screencap?


Yeah, that was up for like 5 seconds. I didn't get all of it, as it was MSRP tax, tag, and title small.
 
2012-10-29 01:09:08 PM  

BizarreMan: solokumba: I know one thing... the taking of the army troops was totally bullshiat. Even the smallest group of soldiers know to secure a perimeter in any situation. Total bullshiat.

Actually they were national guardsmen so they're not going to be full on soldiers. I'll give them a pass on not being 100% secure. Also when somebody drives up in a car. You don't expect them to start shooting immediately. You're looking for walkers.

/put me in the chopper was shot down camp.


Wait, they would not be expecting someone to shoot at them after they get shot down?

It also makes no sense that someone would shoot down the chopper. I just cannot think of a motivation to shoot it down. To find out where their base is so that you can raid it? If they are able to maintain a chopper then it would make sense that they are very secure.
 
2012-10-29 01:12:04 PM  

buntz: He has on stars or show creators that can't and won't discuss anything worthwhile so it's basically just him sitting there geeking out over the show?


To be fair, when he asks stars about the show, they have to be intentionally vague about the direction of the plot. So when he interviewed Laurie Holden, it was just softball questions about what she liked about playing Andrea, which was fairly vapid stuff.

He should've asked her some questions about Silent Hill... draw comparisons, ask questions actors can answe- oh, yeah, nevermind because we're talking about Chris Hardwick.
 
2012-10-29 01:17:25 PM  
Plus, they had guys with machine guns sticking out of both sides of the chopper. If someone was shooting, they'd probably notice.

It was mechanical failure.
 
2012-10-29 01:18:30 PM  

kumanoki: I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?


Haven't read the comics so pure speculation here. I'm guessing the town has some serious gender inequality going on. There was a heck of a lot of mentioning how the men put everything on the line and Andrea makes some rather bizarre feminist remarks during breakfast. Also, none of the women appear to be armed.
 
2012-10-29 01:31:19 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: kumanoki: I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?


Haven't read the comics so pure speculation here. I'm guessing the town has some serious gender inequality going on. There was a heck of a lot of mentioning how the men put everything on the line and Andrea makes some rather bizarre feminist remarks during breakfast. Also, none of the women appear to be armed.


I'm guessing that part of the Gov's vision of rebuilding society involves returning to an imaginary era of easily subjugated women whose roles don't extend beyond domestic duties. The show has half-heartedly nibbled around the edges of gender issues before.
 
2012-10-29 01:47:13 PM  

kumanoki: NeoCortex42: I briefly saw an image during a commercial break last night that was something like "Robert Kirkman's favorite changes for the TV show story". It was up only for a short while, and I wasn't paying close enough attention when it did come up. Did anybody happen to get a screencap?

Yeah, that was up for like 5 seconds. I didn't get all of it, as it was MSRP tax, tag, and title small.


TiVo is my friend. No screencap but decent memory.

5) Showing Morgans wife.
4) Sophia in the barn
3) Rick kills Shane.
2) Zombie herd at the farm.
1) Darryl Freaking Dixon

2, 3,4 may not be in the precise order.
 
2012-10-29 01:54:21 PM  

BizarreMan: kumanoki: NeoCortex42: I briefly saw an image during a commercial break last night that was something like "Robert Kirkman's favorite changes for the TV show story". It was up only for a short while, and I wasn't paying close enough attention when it did come up. Did anybody happen to get a screencap?

Yeah, that was up for like 5 seconds. I didn't get all of it, as it was MSRP tax, tag, and title small.

TiVo is my friend. No screencap but decent memory.

5) Showing Morgans wife.
4) Sophia in the barn
3) Rick kills Shane.
2) Zombie herd at the farm.
1) Darryl Freaking Dixon

2, 3,4 may not be in the precise order.


Thanks. I'm going to have to disagree with him on 3, though. I thought the way it went down in the comics was a much better decision than the TV show.
 
2012-10-29 01:56:13 PM  

buntz: I don't read the comics, so I don't want any spoilers from the comics, please


Not to worry about comic spoilers. They veered away from the comics when they kept Shane alive throughout the 1st season and keep on going off in different directions. This isn't necessarily a bad thing (except for the 8 friggin' episodes on the farm last season); the show's as much as a surprise for us comic fans as it is for the ones who haven't read it.

We know what the Governor's supposed to be like, I wasn't surprised by him mowing down the guy's unit, and I could swear the aquarium is right from the comic, but that's about it. There is, however, a subtlety in that final scene that I think is a spoiler, so I won't mention it.
 
2012-10-29 02:00:50 PM  

The Banana Thug: kumanoki: I am curious to know... you know, we've seen a glipse of how deadly the Governor can be as a leader...but what about the town itself. Andrea and Michonne's tour guide kinda gave me the creeps with her half-answers. I wonder how Woodbury has skewed its society to fit into the mold the Governor has made?

Also, projecting ahead- Andrea and Michonne have no idea where the prison is. How will these two groups interact?

I was wondering the exact same thing, myself. Not spoiling anything here - in the comics, Michonne discovered the prison first, and then went to the crashed helicopter before being taken by the Governor's people, thus creating a link from the prison to Woodbury. But in the TV series, there's no link, so far. Supposedly, the farm's supposed to be close to the prison, but I don't believe that's the case. I believe 7-8 months went by from the time they left the farm to discovering the prison. I believe the reason why they revealed the prison so quickly at the end of last season was to appease frustrated fans who wanted to see faster plot progression.

And by the way, EXCELLENT casting of the Governor. Guy is both seemingly friendly and genuinely frightening and violent. No way that Danny Trejo could've done any better.


At the end of last week's episode, there was somebody watching Carol practicing a Cesarean on a zombie. I'm guessing that was either a Woodbury scout (actually thought he was Merle until last night) or he'll end up w/one of the Woodbury guys eventually.
 
2012-10-29 02:05:47 PM  

NeoCortex42: Thanks. I'm going to have to disagree with him on 3, though. I thought the way it went down in the comics was a much better decision than the TV show.


Nah. The Tv version gave us a more interest take on their relationship, and presented variations on the nature of leadership, and sacrifice. Admittedly, the pacing of the farm episodes hurt it, but it was about the only bearable part of all that.
 
2012-10-29 02:11:02 PM  

Hebalo: NeoCortex42: Thanks. I'm going to have to disagree with him on 3, though. I thought the way it went down in the comics was a much better decision than the TV show.

Nah. The Tv version gave us a more interest take on their relationship, and presented variations on the nature of leadership, and sacrifice. Admittedly, the pacing of the farm episodes hurt it, but it was about the only bearable part of all that.


But the way the comic handled it started Carl along the path to badass. It showed him learning to deal with the realities of the new world and being able to do what needed to be done, as he showed on multiple occasions. TV Carl was farking useless and uninteresting until this season.
 
2012-10-29 02:21:02 PM  
I don't get it... what do you people expect from me?
 
2012-10-29 02:37:55 PM  

Craptastic: buntz: but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

That's exactly the sort of stuff that people would love to do in the event of the zombie apocolypse. A return to some sort of "normalcy" can do wonders for your mental well-being in times of strife.


That's all well and good until the white boy mentions 'rising again'. No, I'm out. See ya and ya strange tea brewer. It's the South. All the women are in dresses, got folks stringing other folks up in trees and zombifying em, screw that.
 
2012-10-29 02:40:53 PM  

solokumba: I know one thing... the taking of the army troops was totally bullshiat. Even the smallest group of soldiers know to secure a perimeter in any situation. Total bullshiat.


They were deserters (regarding shiatty perimeter). Some might have escaped (regarding how the Governor's men might not have killed everyone who was watching).
The Governor picked up some bad karma by screwing
with the United States Military, though.
 
2012-10-29 02:42:05 PM  

acaciaavenue: Anything less that what he did in the comics will be a disappointment. This is AMCs big chance to really piss off a varety women's groups.


Trust.... women have already picked up on some things.
 
2012-10-29 02:42:47 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Craptastic: buntz: but the only thing that I have a hard time buying is that people would be so quick to accept normalcy and do things like "landscape", raking leaves, mowing lawns, etc.

That's exactly the sort of stuff that people would love to do in the event of the zombie apocolypse. A return to some sort of "normalcy" can do wonders for your mental well-being in times of strife.

That's all well and good until the white boy mentions 'rising again'. No, I'm out. See ya and ya strange tea brewer. It's the South. All the women are in dresses, got folks stringing other folks up in trees and zombifying em, screw that.


I have to admit, this is the whitest version of South Georgia I've ever seen.
 
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