cman: Roook: That was one of the most WTF endings I've ever seen in a tv series. It's like they decided they had to shoehorn something in to make the title make sense. Couldn't just leave it alone and leave it as is. A song from the time period.

The problem was was that they were cancelled half way filming the first season. They were allowed to change their scripts to finish it up, but it still was very much rushed.

The British creators have stated that the creators of the United States version always intended the series to end as it did.

Dimensio: cman: Roook: That was one of the most WTF endings I've ever seen in a tv series. It's like they decided they had to shoehorn something in to make the title make sense. Couldn't just leave it alone and leave it as is. A song from the time period.

The problem was was that they were cancelled half way filming the first season. They were allowed to change their scripts to finish it up, but it still was very much rushed.

The British creators have stated that the creators of the United States version always intended the series to end as it did.

Given the hints through the show, I'd agree with this assessment.

/still enjoyed it more than I thought I would

I think The Simpsons have claim to the worst tv series ending:

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I think The Simpsons have claim to the worst tv series ending:

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I'm sorry, the correct answer is 'Alf'.

"Scientists say life on Mars would be threatened started by a manned mission"

In related news, no cavemen or cows named Mickey Mouse have been located on the planet.

What difference was there between the American and British one? I only saw the British series, and even that ending didn't quite fit right.

I'm not really seeing the problem here. I'm also not seeing that there's any real chance of preventing it from happening, assuming we ever have any real presence on Mars beyond like, five people.

In short, that sounds like a lot of wasted brain power on a non-issue that you can't do anything about anyway.

It's a god-awful small affair.

thecpt: What difference was there between the American and British one? I only saw the British series, and even that ending didn't quite fit right.

In the US version, it was all a Matrix like dream of one of the astronauts in hibernation on a Mars mission. It was really random compared to the UK ending.

So? Fark the Martian bacteria. Any lifeform that doesn't want to be eradicated should damn well learn English and let us know in writing.

cman: Roook: That was one of the most WTF endings I've ever seen in a tv series. It's like they decided they had to shoehorn something in to make the title make sense. Couldn't just leave it alone and leave it as is. A song from the time period.

The problem was was that they were cancelled half way filming the first season. They were allowed to change their scripts to finish it up, but it still was very much rushed.

No, the problem was that they knew that they couldn't come close to the quality of the British version, nor would they dare attempt the same ending, so they came up with something they thought would be 'clever', and it was a trainwreck.

thecpt: What difference was there between the American and British one? I only saw the British series, and even that ending didn't quite fit right.

In the United States version, the cast turned out to be bloody astronauts.

thecpt: What difference was there between the American and British one? I only saw the British series, and even that ending didn't quite fit right.

British show ended with a kiss, the American show an fu.

I dunno, if the American version hadn't been cut so short I think it would have been as good as Lost's ending, at least. IMO the ending to Ashes To Ashes kind of ruined things, too, because I was hoping it would go on and on without definite answers.

Rather than the third series of A2A's ending, I was hoping there'd be another sequel with another modern cop who wakes in the past, this time 1990, called Under The God, where Gene Hunt and the boys would still be there, and hints that Sam Tyler wasn't killed but recruited by a secret government agency and Alex Drake had likewise moved along out of regular police work and there would be cases to solve, a life to be examined and underlying the "normalcy" of being a time-displaced cop there would be hints of it all not being true, perhaps even supernatural in origin (owing to the religious nature of the lead character, possibly an on-the-fence atheist of Islamic background). Eventually it would be hinted that they were all brain-damaged cops who were spending the ends of their lives in comas, all exhibiting a condition described as Transcendent Idiopsychologic Neurosynchrony after it was noted their EEG's all looked the same (hence them all seeing the past from a time when they were children and all having Gene Hunt, et al, appear), and that somehow this created a common mental state in all of them as though they were all experiencing a shared alternate reality. But of course, there'd be mind-farks aplenty and even talk of being in the afterlife, all dismissable by other evidence. In the finale, the new cop would wake in the real world and find him or herself at a medical facility, being investigated scientifically, connected up to the TIN Machine, which was monitoring and recording brain activity of dozens if not hundreds of patients, all noted as cops, and Philip Glenister would be the head of the facility, trying to explain things but leaving suspicious holes in the story so that there'd be some big conspiracy/medical ethics shadiness/X-Files kind of thing, and we'd have more questions than answers as the new cop winds up back in his coma and returned to the precinct office in his mind. Then the camera would roll past the bed he's in to many others. and we'd get cameos by John Simm and Keeley Hawes and all the other people who've been cops in the show, lying there with tubes and wires attached, and at the end of the row we see the first patient, listed as having been in a coma for decades, one very old guy connected to the machine, and before the credits rolled we'd see a partial glimpse of the name tag on his wrist, which would read "Eugene H--" and the camera would slide up to his face to reveal not Philip Glenister, but David Bowie in age makeup, and just before the screen goes black, the monitors go crazy and he opens his eyes.

And then in the next series...

Oh STFU! I dont care if there is 1000's of species of martian microbes that we kill. Mars belongs to humanity and we should act like it. Begin the 500 year terraforming plan immediately!

Our species must make a high priority of establishing permanent and self-sustaining off-world populations if we want to survive, yet for some reason I have the feeling that environmental wackos will be responsible for our extinction through compassionate measures to ensure that any new potential biosphere remains untouched and free from human filth and intervention...

I didn't even read the article before making my Boobies, but...

'We have the responsibility to Mars, I think - even if it's just Martian microbes - not to kill them by the act of detecting them,' said Cynthia Phillips of the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute.

I really hate Cynthia Phillips of the SETI Institute...

/been crunching SETI@Home data for over 10 years...

The Committee on Space Research even established a protocol in 2008, aiming to protect Earth from any contamination from Mars and vise versa.

The plan also advises avoiding gullies, potentially geothermal sites, and any other region where Earth life could survive.



This article just gets worse and worse. So now we can't look at any of the good places to look for life... If people like these are in charge of our space exploration, then we are all truly farked...

We should send a giant space capsule filled with every type of bacteria and fungus known to science, and just smash it into mars to see what doesn't die... This would be a far better use of our time and energy!

'If you want to be a good citizen of the solar system, you do the planetary protection requirements, just like you pick up the litter and you don't spread your pollution all over the countryside.'

STFU Cassie Conley of NASA! The countryside in this metaphor is a harsh barren wasteland where nothing survives! We would be doing it a favor by spewing our trash around a bit...

archichris: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: So? Fark the Martian bacteria. Any lifeform that doesn't want to be eradicated should damn well learn English and let us know in writing.

Twenty years ago scientists were all about how to get people there and start producing rocket fuel on site so we could have permanent bases and rotating crews.

Then the Greens got in charge of government grants and suddenly we cant use mars as a second earth because it might kill some microbes.

Save The Spotted Amoeba!

You know who else wanted humans to stay on Earth and never go out anywhere?

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: So? Fark the Martian bacteria. Any lifeform that doesn't want to be eradicated should damn well learn English and let us know in writing.

All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri on Earth for fifty of your Earth Mars years so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaints and its far too late to start making a fuss about it now.

We as Earth creatures have a duty to spread Earth life to other worlds, to guarantee that Earth life spreads and thrives. Even if we as humans don't live on, we at least can spread our related DNA. We have a obligation to Earth life to grow outwards and onwards. If Mars had or has live then it would do the same to us. Even if the "martians" or other wolders think we are infecting them, it is something we must do. It is not about morality, it is about the survival of Earth life well beyond what would otherwise survive on Earth. If we are the vessel to take Earth life and colonize other wolds with it, then we must do so - it is our biological obligation.

MrBentor: We as Earth creatures have a duty to spread Earth life to other worlds, to guarantee that Earth life spreads and thrives. Even if we as humans don't live on, we at least can spread our related DNA. We have a obligation to Earth life to grow outwards and onwards. If Mars had or has live then it would do the same to us. Even if the "martians" or other wolders think we are infecting them, it is something we must do. It is not about morality, it is about the survival of Earth life well beyond what would otherwise survive on Earth. If we are the vessel to take Earth life and colonize other wolds with it, then we must do so - it is our biological obligation.

Amen to that. It is the height of stupidity, though, to destroy something with our carelessness. If we destroy, we should mean it.

TopoGigo: MrBentor: We as Earth creatures have a duty to spread Earth life to other worlds, to guarantee that Earth life spreads and thrives. Even if we as humans don't live on, we at least can spread our related DNA. We have a obligation to Earth life to grow outwards and onwards. If Mars had or has live then it would do the same to us. Even if the "martians" or other wolders think we are infecting them, it is something we must do. It is not about morality, it is about the survival of Earth life well beyond what would otherwise survive on Earth. If we are the vessel to take Earth life and colonize other wolds with it, then we must do so - it is our biological obligation.

Amen to that. It is the height of stupidity, though, to destroy something with our carelessness. If we destroy, we should mean it.

That's why you both should sign up for the Maul555 plan. Destroy through absolutely intentional carelessness!

TV's Vinnie: You know who else wanted humans to stay on Earth and never go out anywhere?

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Quantum Apostrophe?