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(Politico)   Debate bounce? Two weeks ago, Obama and Romney were tied in Ohio. Today, Obama is up by 4 points   (politico.com) divider line 174
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2012-10-29 07:43:03 AM
FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?
 
2012-10-29 07:43:08 AM
Yes, I can clearly see how the many new and specific policy points illuminated in those debates could persuade 300,000 or so Ohioans to shift their preference from one candidate to the other.
 
2012-10-29 08:08:25 AM

cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?


You're asking for sensibility of people who choose to live in Ohio?
 
2012-10-29 08:10:08 AM

Sybarite: Yes, I can clearly see how the many new and specific policy points illuminated in those debates could persuade 300,000 or so Ohioans to shift their preference from one candidate to the other.


Well Romney not being able to locate the country he plans to invade on a map might have swayed some people.
 
2012-10-29 09:24:04 AM

Mugato: Sybarite: Yes, I can clearly see how the many new and specific policy points illuminated in those debates could persuade 300,000 or so Ohioans to shift their preference from one candidate to the other.

Well Romney not being able to locate the country he plans to invade on a map might have swayed some people.


Unlikely, unfortunately.
 
2012-10-29 09:30:38 AM
Tomorrow's headline: Rasmussan poll give Romney 5 point lead in Ohio. Suck my balls libs.
 
2012-10-29 10:05:07 AM

cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?


Logic would dictate that both polls were probably off within their respective margin of errors and that Obama was probably up 2 points the whole time.
 
2012-10-29 10:11:49 AM
Democrat pollster is an outlier to all the other polls.

what a surprise!!!!
 
2012-10-29 10:27:25 AM

cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?


If you want consistency, go to FiveThirtyEight. His latest blog post is about how the polls are basically back to where they were on June 7th after the convention and debate fluctuations. Media outlets breathlessly reporting every swing state poll as if they're directly related is vacillating nonsense.
 
2012-10-29 10:29:03 AM
Or, it's just a reversion to the norm for this election. If you look at 538's trendlines and remove the convention and debate periods, the lines have barely moved the entire cycle.
 
2012-10-29 11:19:57 AM
In before people who want to pretend there is only one poll these days tries to site the latest Rasmussen despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
 
2012-10-29 11:20:35 AM
Oh goodie, let's argue some more about polls.
 
2012-10-29 11:20:49 AM
Wow, it's as if you can't find any reliable data based on the remaining splinters of society who have land lines or something.
 
2012-10-29 11:21:06 AM
When the Republican candidate OWNS voting machines, 4% is like a couple thousand code iterations.

Yeah, fraud. I said it. Voter. Fraud. Stolen. Election. SCOTUS. Just keep it close enough to look legit.

Turdblossom isn't gone away. He's just working behind the scenes.
 
2012-10-29 11:21:42 AM
It's almost as if polls given evidence, rather than proof, of the election results.
 
2012-10-29 11:22:24 AM
A four point lead would be in line with an actual two point lead, just as a tied poll would be. Indications are that Obama has a two point lead in Ohio.

Out of 28 polls of Ohio this month, 20 show Obama ahead, 4 show Romney ahead, 4 show it tied.

Obama is leading in Ohio.
 
2012-10-29 11:22:28 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: When the Republican candidate OWNS voting machines, 4% is like a couple thousand code iterations.

Yeah, fraud. I said it. Voter. Fraud. Stolen. Election. SCOTUS. Just keep it close enough to look legit.

Turdblossom isn't gone away. He's just working behind the scenes.


I shouldn't even have to ask this, but does Ken Blackwell hold any position of power in Ohio this election?
 
2012-10-29 11:22:37 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: When the Republican candidate OWNS voting machines, 4% is like a couple thousand code iterations.

Yeah, fraud. I said it. Voter. Fraud. Stolen. Election. SCOTUS. Just keep it close enough to look legit.

Turdblossom isn't gone away. He's just working behind the scenes.


I'm sure there is some shady counter-coup shiat going on at the Federal level. No way in hell do I see the Administration just sitting back and letting that happen.
 
2012-10-29 11:23:17 AM
Today: img0.fark.netDebate bounce? Two weeks ago, Obama and Romney were tied in Ohio. Today, Obama is up by 4 points

Yesterday: img0.fark.netTwo weeks ago, Obama had a 5 point lead in Ohio. Today, Romney has tied it up

Whatever side you're on, you can be a winner!
 
2012-10-29 11:23:21 AM

mrshowrules: cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?

Logic would dictate that both polls were probably off within their respective margin of errors and that Obama was probably up 2 points the whole time.


That's what Nate Silver's been saying for weeks. Despite a couple of bounces for both Obama and Romney, the race has been settling on an equilibrium of Obama +2.
 
2012-10-29 11:24:01 AM
I'm sorry libs. I can't hear your bullcrap over my freedom.
i6.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-29 11:24:18 AM

lennavan: Today: [img0.fark.net image 77x27]Debate bounce? Two weeks ago, Obama and Romney were tied in Ohio. Today, Obama is up by 4 points

Yesterday: [img0.fark.net image 77x27]Two weeks ago, Obama had a 5 point lead in Ohio. Today, Romney has tied it up

Whatever side you're on, you can be a winner!


Paging Mr. NotShryke, Paging Mr. NotShryke.

You are being requested to apologize on the floor. Thank you.
 
2012-10-29 11:24:31 AM
I dont know libs....

unskewedpolls.com
 
2012-10-29 11:24:54 AM
Two weeks ago: X

Today: Slightly different X.
 
2012-10-29 11:25:06 AM

Mentat: Tomorrow's headline: Rasmussan poll give Romney 5 point lead in Ohio. Suck my balls libs.


Take a look, and tell me which one doesn't belong. Link
 
2012-10-29 11:25:30 AM

I_Am_Weasel: cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?

You're asking for sensibility of people who choose to live in Ohio?


I can understand Eastern Ohio. It's practically Pennsylvania.

But Columbus??? Or Cincinnati? With what they call chili???
 
2012-10-29 11:25:49 AM

Zapruder: I'm sorry libs. I can't hear your bullcrap over my freedom.


The best part of that map is MI going red.
 
2012-10-29 11:26:22 AM
1. Silent majority.
2. 30% of Bachmann supporters support Kolob.
3. Harmonize statistic quirks.
 
2012-10-29 11:26:25 AM
That's OK, Romney will win the next debate.
 
2012-10-29 11:26:29 AM
Wanna see some epic teeth gnashing? Go into ANY Yahoo news story regarding Obama. ANY. The comments will be full of teabaggers in a massive circle-jerk of derp. If (or more likely, when) Obama wins this, the resulting pants-sh*tting epidemic could actually be a bit scary. People are saying things that would have resulted in a Secret Service visit 10 years ago...
 
2012-10-29 11:27:12 AM

coeyagi: 1. Silent majority.
2. 30% of Bachmann supporters support Kolob.
3. Harmonize statistic quirks.


What you did there...see it, I do.
 
2012-10-29 11:27:24 AM
i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-29 11:29:07 AM
The whole election is turning into a Bush-Kerry repeat, in that voters are willing to stick with a known incumbent over a poorly-differentiated challenger in spite of the opposition party's hyperbolic vitriol. So the numbers have remained remarkably stable, and are likely to stay that way as storm coverage eats up the news coverage almost until election day.
 
2012-10-29 11:30:08 AM
Random Sampling, how does it work?

/no one has changed their minds in weeks
 
2012-10-29 11:30:24 AM

EyeballKid: Wow, it's as if you can't find any reliable data based on the remaining splinters of society who have land lines or something.


Wow, if only someone had told polling organizations about this!
 
2012-10-29 11:30:38 AM
static5.businessinsider.com

Unskewed Pollster is in the bushes watching you masturbate.
 
2012-10-29 11:31:02 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: When the Republican candidate OWNS voting machines, 4% is like a couple thousand code iterations.

Yeah, fraud. I said it. Voter. Fraud. Stolen. Election. SCOTUS. Just keep it close enough to look legit.

Turdblossom isn't gone away. He's just working behind the scenes.


Well, that's part of why the GOP puppetmasters are trying so hard to pump out the claim that Romney is just oh-so-close in Ohio. Because if everyone knows Obama has it wrapped up going into the election, it'll make a greater number of people more likely to be suspicious. They already had a close call with the unprecedented exit polling disparity (against reported results) in the 2000 and 2004 elections.
 
2012-10-29 11:31:11 AM
The plight of the internet. We live in information age. The problem is the masses don't know how to interpret that information. We need to teach statistics and probability; at the least most still will have a grasp of the basic Gaussian distribution.

We would see less headlines like "statistical dead heat" as many will be able to call out the bullshiat stains of the mass media. Until then people will believe polls and "skew" them to whomever satisfies their political discourse.

Just stop it and grasp the basic elementary concept of statistics and probability.
 
2012-10-29 11:31:12 AM

Mugato: Sybarite: Yes, I can clearly see how the many new and specific policy points illuminated in those debates could persuade 300,000 or so Ohioans to shift their preference from one candidate to the other.

Well Romney not being able to locate the country he plans to invade on a map might have swayed some people.


If a Democrat going against an incumbent Republican had made that gaffe at any point in the election, it would have been news for 36 hours at least.

Librul Media my ass
 
2012-10-29 11:31:14 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wanna see some epic teeth gnashing? Go into ANY Yahoo news story regarding Obama. ANY. The comments will be full of teabaggers in a massive circle-jerk of derp. If (or more likely, when) Obama wins this, the resulting pants-sh*tting epidemic could actually be a bit scary. People are saying things that would have resulted in a Secret Service visit 10 years ago...


Trust me, the Secret Service examines all threats, and is probably working over time this election season.

In fact, I think they are hiring.
 
2012-10-29 11:31:14 AM

lemurs: The whole election is turning into a Bush-Kerry repeat, in that voters are willing to stick with a known incumbent over a poorly-differentiated challenger in spite of the opposition party's hyperbolic vitriol. So the numbers have remained remarkably stable, and are likely to stay that way as storm coverage eats up the news coverage almost until election day.


Hyperbolic vitriol? Um, did Obama start a war under false pretenses? Did he single-handedly take our foreign policy and flush it down the crapper?
 
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2012-10-29 11:31:41 AM

Mentat: Suck my balls libs.


detach your republican congressman, first and they'll get right to it.
 
2012-10-29 11:32:18 AM
Well Ohio is New York's path to the sea, so you can see why they're in the tank for Obama.
 
2012-10-29 11:32:43 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wanna see some epic teeth gnashing? Go into ANY Yahoo news story regarding Obama. ANY. The comments will be full of teabaggers in a massive circle-jerk of derp. If (or more likely, when) Obama wins this, the resulting pants-sh*tting epidemic could actually be a bit scary. People are saying things that would have resulted in a Secret Service visit 10 years ago...


In all fairness, there are the same types of people talking about assassinating Romney.

That being said, based upon the way things are going, I'll be happy on November 7th. I won't be overjoyed, because Obama is far from what I'd like to see, since he's a center-right authoritarian politician, but it's the better option over Romney since poor Jill doesn't have any sort of shot.
 
2012-10-29 11:32:49 AM

MFAWG: Mugato: Sybarite: Yes, I can clearly see how the many new and specific policy points illuminated in those debates could persuade 300,000 or so Ohioans to shift their preference from one candidate to the other.

Well Romney not being able to locate the country he plans to invade on a map might have swayed some people.

If a Democrat going against an incumbent Republican had made that gaffe at any point in the election, it would have been news for 36 hours at least.

Librul Media my ass


It's funny to see how the pendulum hasn't swung so much as fallen into a giant heap of metal and wire. No one trusts the media any longer. They only trust "their" media, be it bloggers, Fox News, or whatever.
 
2012-10-29 11:32:55 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: When the Republican candidate OWNS voting machines, 4% is like a couple thousand code iterations


what is a "code iteration"?
 
2012-10-29 11:34:06 AM

coeyagi: lemurs: The whole election is turning into a Bush-Kerry repeat, in that voters are willing to stick with a known incumbent over a poorly-differentiated challenger in spite of the opposition party's hyperbolic vitriol. So the numbers have remained remarkably stable, and are likely to stay that way as storm coverage eats up the news coverage almost until election day.

Um, did Obama start a war under false pretenses? Did he single-handedly take our foreign policy and flush it down the crapper?


No.
No, not single-handedly, he had help from Hillary.
 
2012-10-29 11:34:35 AM

Girl From The North Country: Well Ohio is New York's path to the sea, so you can see why they're in the tank for Obama.


I heard an Ohio bank provided 10% of the funding for "The Innocence of Muslims" video that was used as a red herring for the Benghazi attack, so I can understand why they're in the tank for Obama.
 
2012-10-29 11:34:49 AM

meat0918: I_Am_Weasel: cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?

You're asking for sensibility of people who choose to live in Ohio?

I can understand Eastern Ohio. It's practically Pennsylvania.

But Columbus??? Or Cincinnati? With what they call chili???


hey, we are the only ones who make chili right!
 
2012-10-29 11:35:46 AM

SuperT: meat0918: I_Am_Weasel: cman: FFS, folks, cant you assholes just make up your damned mind already?

You're asking for sensibility of people who choose to live in Ohio?

I can understand Eastern Ohio. It's practically Pennsylvania.

But Columbus??? Or Cincinnati? With what they call chili???

hey, we are the only ones who make chili right!


I don't mind the allspice or cinnamon, but then again I accidentally made Cincinnati style chili once a long long time ago.
 
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