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(Huffington Post)   Romney in CNN debate: Get rid of FEMA, let states handle disasters. Romney campaign now that there's a major emergency: We need to make sure states "have the resources and assistance they need"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 334
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2012-10-29 07:10:43 AM

orbister: propasaurus: I'm old enough to have not voted for Carter, and I have to tell you I have never seen the level of sheer unqualified unreasonable hatred the right has for this President. Be it race or Party or ignorance a combination of all of those, it doesn't even come close to the attacks on Clinton.

You have "never seen the level of sheer unqualified unreasonable hatred the right has for this President", but it "doesn't even come close to the attacks on Clinton"?

So you're saying the right hate this president more, but attacked Clinton more?


No.
 
2012-10-29 07:12:02 AM

propasaurus: SevenizGud: ...dumbocraps...

Anyone know? Is this guy for real? It just seems like such a caricature of a troll.


I don't know him well enough, but there are plenty of others who spell just like that.
/sad, I know...
 
2012-10-29 07:13:09 AM

Launch Code: obama said he'd protect Americans but sat back and watched as 4 Americans got slaughtered then lied about the reason to protect his next day fundraising trip. obama said he'd get the unemployment rate down to 5.6% in his first term. It's now over 8% (7.8% if you cook the books).


Achievement unlocked. post a comment devoid of any facts.
 
2012-10-29 07:17:37 AM

shower_in_my_socks: FTA: Mitt Romney was asked, in the context of the Joplin disaster and FEMA's cash crunch, whether the agency should be shuttered so that states can individually take over responsibility for disaster response. "Absolutely," he said. "Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction.

UPDATE: "Gov. Romney wants to ensure states, who are the first responders and are in the best position to aid impacted individuals and communities, have the resources and assistance they need to cope with natural disasters," the Romney official said.

----

So in other words, kill FEMA and stop Federal aid.... until it's needed, and then, what? Reopen it? And then shut it down again? LOL at the logic of these fools.


Since the states have already paid into FEMA this year, I have no issue with this.

But I also have no issue with the idea of FEMA.
 
2012-10-29 07:19:26 AM
Why don't we just cut taxes to zero percent and let Americans clean up the mess themselves? With all the money they save on tax cuts, rugged Americans could shop at Lowes or Home Depot for the supplies they need to clean up after a natural disaster. It be a boost to the economy and show our bootstrapiness.
 
2012-10-29 07:20:37 AM

Launch Code: obama said he'd protect Americans but sat back and watched as 4 Americans got slaughtered then lied about the reason to protect his next day fundraising trip. obama said he'd get the unemployment rate down to 5.6% in his first term. It's now over 8% (7.8% if you cook the books).


Oh! Can I play?

Ok, let's see.... ah!

Bush set up the attack on the Towers. I mean, obviously! They dropped perfectly from the explosive hidden inside.
 
2012-10-29 07:21:36 AM
I believe Romney's big deficit reduction plan is to make the states pay for everything because you know, that's not a financial burden on people. It's much cheaper to create something 50 times instead of once, and it's much more simple to coordinate 50 different entities to work with each other than one...and you're almost assured to have a drastic rise in quality of service when the likes of Mississippi and Alabama create government services. To the extent Republicans believe in states rights it begs the question, why even have a USA? Just let 50 states turn into sovereign countries.
 
2012-10-29 07:22:41 AM
When did Janus become a Mormon god?
 
2012-10-29 07:23:06 AM

YouBWrong: Launch Code: obama said he'd protect Americans but sat back and watched as 4 Americans got slaughtered then lied about the reason to protect his next day fundraising trip. obama said he'd get the unemployment rate down to 5.6% in his first term. It's now over 8% (7.8% if you cook the books).

While he was sitting back and watching that, was he in a high backed leather arm char, with a white care on his lap? Did he stroke the cat and cackle to himself?


Meh. His statement was more Ming the Merciless than Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

Pathetic Earthling

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-29 07:25:43 AM
Yup, those republicans always say things like this...leave it to the states to deal with. That may work if you are a well-off state....but if you live in one of the poor ones, that's your fault.... So we all pay taxes to a federal government that will do nothing for us? Typical two faced stuff from the republican party. Unfortunately many people can;t remember what happened a month ago so it just may work.
 
2012-10-29 07:26:10 AM

brigid_fitch: sendtodave: brigid_fitch: I think that's why Christie waited as long as he did to declare it (3pm today, as opposed to the rest of the East Coast states who declared it on Saturday). He's gunning for a 2016 presidential election and doesn't want to be seen relying on the Feds.

If FEMA comes late to the party, he can blame Obama. Natch.

As I said in another thread, if anyone--especially someone in NJ--complains that FEMA didn't act quickly enough, I'm going to beat them over the head w/a video of Christie's 2:45pm press conference. We were the last state on the East Coast to declare a state of emergency. That means FEMA had put aside resources for 7-8 states before we got added to the list.


And when it hits the fan, they're going to point fingers at the federal government for not responding fast enough.

/prediction
//two cents
 
2012-10-29 07:26:53 AM

propasaurus: coco ebert: An honest question for conservatives or Republicans: without referencing Obama or the Democrats, can you please explain how you reconcile voting for a man who has such a careless disregard for consistency of any kind? How do you know what he believes in or what he will do when president?

Romney has been consistently white and not Obama.

Au contraire,mon amie et Au courant
crooksandliars.com
 
2012-10-29 07:28:20 AM
Romney makes an ideal weather vane, first blowing this way, and then that way.
 
2012-10-29 07:28:45 AM

MayoSlather: I believe Romney's big deficit reduction plan is to make the states pay for everything because you know, that's not a financial burden on people. It's much cheaper to create something 50 times instead of once, and it's much more simple to coordinate 50 different entities to work with each other than one...and you're almost assured to have a drastic rise in quality of service when the likes of Mississippi and Alabama create government services. To the extent Republicans believe in states rights it begs the question, why even have a USA? Just let 50 states turn into sovereign countries.


That was Bush's plan as he cut taxes for the wealthy and the flow of money to needy municipalities to supply basic services whic could not be supported by the local tax base. That is why so many local communities have had to cut services extremely and/or go bankrupt. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link and Republican economic policies basically create thousands of weak links out of many communities.
 
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2012-10-29 07:31:21 AM

Launch Code: obama said he'd protect Americans but sat back and watched as 4 Americans got slaughtered then lied about the reason to protect his next day fundraising trip. obama said he'd get the unemployment rate down to 5.6% in his first term. It's now over 8% (7.8% if you cook the books).


i847.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-29 07:32:20 AM

propasaurus: orbister: propasaurus: I'm old enough to have not voted for Carter, and I have to tell you I have never seen the level of sheer unqualified unreasonable hatred the right has for this President. Be it race or Party or ignorance a combination of all of those, it doesn't even come close to the attacks on Clinton.

You have "never seen the level of sheer unqualified unreasonable hatred the right has for this President", but it "doesn't even come close to the attacks on Clinton"?

So you're saying the right hate this president more, but attacked Clinton more?

No.


OK, so if the current attacks don't come close to those on Clinton, how do you know the right hate Obama more?
 
2012-10-29 07:34:26 AM
They need to play the two clips of Romney back to back saying those things and then finish it up with Andy Griffith laughing like a madman in A Face in the Crowd.
 
2012-10-29 07:36:42 AM
Sorry about that Mr. Homeowner - you're drowning on the wrong side of the river. See, that's New Jersey over there and we're the disaster relief crew from New York, we really only have jurisdiction on this side of the river. Not to mention OUR disaster director is pissed at YOUR disaster director for not sending any assistance when we had that ice storm last year that wrecked our electrical grid, that and his dip at the Disaster Directors of the USA potluck really sucked.
 
2012-10-29 07:50:08 AM
Can we blast this from every rooftop, starting yesterday?
 
2012-10-29 07:51:57 AM
No thread for today up yet, so posting here... the Telegrah has a live feed going that rotates through cameras periodically.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9639915/Hu r ricane-Sandy-live.html

Hell of a surf, and it's still over 12 hours from landfall...
 
2012-10-29 07:52:54 AM
 
2012-10-29 07:55:09 AM
Another thing not mentioned and Republicans blasted President Obama as being a "big spender" for. President Obama actually factored the projected cost of emergency relief for diasters in his budget. Previous POTUSs didn't as an accounting trick to make the budgets appear smaller.

// Sorry for the threadjack, but just thought of this after looking back at issues distrubuting relief supplies after hurricanes and stuff that messes up the infrastructure. If I were in charge of emergency management in the U.S. I think one of the things I would change when possible is to distribute some basic emergency supplies before the crisis hits instead of after. This might cost a little more on items initially but the savings would come in logistics because you don't have to deal with handing it out afterwards with a collapsed infrastructure and a frustrated populace. Nothing fancy; just some military MREs, a couple gallon jugs of water, and some candles with a way to light them. That would also free up the manpower to work on rescue, recovery, and reconstruction afterwards. Just a thought.
 
2012-10-29 07:56:01 AM

log_jammin: SlappyKincaid: I don't see why we can't send in our own doctors etc. Each state could have an army of volunteers. I would sign up and volunteer my talents in case of disaster.

The state can and does send it's own doctors and supplies and what ever. The simple fact is that most, if not all, the states simple do not have the resources to handle a major disaster all on their own.

There is no reason at all to do away with FEMA and make the states handle it on their own.


Frankly, I'm coming around to asking the obvious question: Why do we even have 50 states anymore? 50 little fiefdoms pissing away money on the same damn thing in 50 different ways is increasingly assine, IMO.
 
2012-10-29 07:58:00 AM
All Team Obama needs to do now is to run an ad that shows footage of the hurricane with Rmoney's FEMA comments over it, and he could coast all the way to Victory next week.

But then again, only Rmoney likes to take political advantage of disasters that hurt people.
 
2012-10-29 07:58:53 AM
Do Dem-o-rat gov's know how to even call for help?

Dem's are just that stupid.
 
2012-10-29 07:59:26 AM
So this was always Obama's position?

Lawyers for the Obama administration are arguing that the United States will be irreparably harmed if it has to abide by a judge's ruling that it can no longer hold terrorism suspects indefinitely without trial in military custody.

I'm pretty sure he used to take exactly the opposite stance when talking about Bush and Gitmo.

Or does it not count when Obama lies?
 
2012-10-29 08:02:14 AM
Listen folks... For f*cks sake...

Attacking Romney is NOT an agenda!

He would want to make that clear.
 
2012-10-29 08:03:19 AM
So are we blaming gays or sluts this time round?
 
2012-10-29 08:03:59 AM

wongway: Do Dem-o-rat gov's know how to even call for help? Dem's are just that stupid.


Best part?

... FOREVER.
 
2012-10-29 08:04:20 AM

wongway: Do Dem-o-rat gov's know how to even call for help?

Dem's are just that stupid.



best part... forever!

(Damn, what was that guy's name? Been so long since he's posted, I can't remember)
 
2012-10-29 08:04:51 AM

Mitochondrial Eve: So are we blaming gays or sluts this time round?


What's the difference?
 
2012-10-29 08:05:35 AM

heavymetal: Another thing not mentioned and Republicans blasted President Obama as being a "big spender" for. President Obama actually factored the projected cost of emergency relief for diasters in his budget. Previous POTUSs didn't as an accounting trick to make the budgets appear smaller.



Yeah it was unfortunate Obama just took it on the chin every time Romney tried to paint him as a big spender during the debates. Additional spending has increased at the slowest rate in nearly 50 years under Obama. The deficit increased not because Obama was irresponsible, but because he actually was responsible and put things on the budget that needed to be there. All existing things the government already was paying for before he came into office. Furthermore he was faced with drastically reduced revenue, which made the deficit worse.

The thing is Romney knows all this and dare I say even understands, but he is just intellectually dishonest enough to beat the straw man to death.
 
2012-10-29 08:05:36 AM

LeoffDaGrate: Damn, what was that guy's name?


Terri Schiavo.
 
2012-10-29 08:06:43 AM

wongway: Do Dem-o-rat gov's know how to even call for help?

Dem's are just that stupid.


Hey, look everyone, it's winterwhile's new 10-day old alt.
 
2012-10-29 08:08:42 AM

Mitochondrial Eve: So are we blaming gays or sluts this time round?


They have the week off.
 
2012-10-29 08:09:05 AM

brigid_fitch: propasaurus: brigid_fitch: coco ebert: An honest question for conservatives or Republicans: without referencing Obama or the Democrats, can you please explain how you reconcile voting for a man who has such a careless disregard for consistency of any kind? How do you know what he believes in or what he will do when president?

I tried that. The answer was various forms of, "No politician ever does what he promises to do during the campaign!"

While somewhat true, it still doesn't account for the ridiculous platform (or non-platform, depending on what day it is) Romney is campaigning with. Any further questioning in order to clarify their answer just spirals down into further levels of derp.

And it also negates their own talking point of 'Obama didn't do what he promised during the campaign.'

You'd think so, but that would require logic, something they clearly don't possess the faculties to handle.


Not to mention the fact that he actually did keep quite a few promises...
 
2012-10-29 08:11:08 AM
Mitt has the opportunity to act Presidential here. Or, y'know, he can try to score points by smirkingly criticizing the Obama adminstration's response, whatever it is.
 
2012-10-29 08:12:39 AM
So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?
 
2012-10-29 08:13:17 AM

wongway: So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?


LOLWUT
 
2012-10-29 08:16:15 AM

wongway: So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?


Best part...FOREVER!

Seriously, if you're going to create an alt to make it look like not everyone thinks you're an idiot, you've got to be more conspicious about it.
 
2012-10-29 08:17:17 AM

JonnyG: Listen folks... For f*cks sake...

Attacking Romney is NOT an agenda!

He would want to make that clear.


I was floored when he said that...After repeatedly launching into anti-Obama diatribes, often unrelated to the subject at hand, he has the indignant cajones to whine about being attacked. What an ass.
 
2012-10-29 08:19:54 AM
If Obama hadn't shrunk the Navy down to the size of Bolivia's we wouldn't have to worry about this shiat. President Romney would just line up his thousand one-mile long Freedom Class Carriers into a wall like a Spartan phalanx that would not only prevent the hurricane from hitting the United States, but would deflect it onto Europe and wipe out all the socialist there.
 
2012-10-29 08:20:09 AM
All Obama needs to do to win this thing is go to the White House and make a Presidential Address about how the Federal Government is there for the states that need the assistance, and he's sending help right away. Doesn't even need to be an overt dig at Rmoney, just do his job and let people see him doing it. That's all! (and next week back on the campaign trail, remind people what Rmoney said about FEMA....)
 
2012-10-29 08:20:29 AM

wongway: So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?


Cause Grease is the word? Okay Danny...
 
2012-10-29 08:21:33 AM

wongway: Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in? Can we all just Say Greece?


Man, if you're not Winterwhile, you're the best damn Winterwhile impersonator I've sever seen.
 
2012-10-29 08:21:34 AM

wongway: So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?


Guess how I know you've never taken an economics class, let alone passed one?
 
2012-10-29 08:22:14 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: wongway: Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in? Can we all just Say Greece?

Man, if you're not Winterwhile, you're the best damn Winterwhile impersonator I've sever seen.


All you have to do is be really stupid and proud of it, it's not a hard act to imitate.
 
2012-10-29 08:23:05 AM

wongway: So just how will FEMA fix the OBAMA disaster?

25 Million out of work

16 Trillion in Debt?

Can anyone imagine whats thats going to look like if Obama get back in?

Can we all just Say Greece?


I'm not sure you even understand the words you posted. They just looked pretty to you in a FWD: FWD: FWD: so you copy and pasted. Well done on the copy and paste though, that must have taken a while to get right.
 
2012-10-29 08:23:30 AM

MayoSlather: JonnyG: Listen folks... For f*cks sake...

Attacking Romney is NOT an agenda!

He would want to make that clear.

I was floored when he said that...After repeatedly launching into anti-Obama diatribes, often unrelated to the subject at hand, he has the indignant cajones to whine about being attacked. What an ass.


The whole party has taken on the tone of a schoolyard bully who goes whining and crying to the teacher when one of the kids they've been picking on pops em in the mouth.
 
2012-10-29 08:25:16 AM
It will be SO much better to have 50 different EMAs controlled by legislatures packed with lawmakers who ask Grover Norquist's permission to use a second square of toilet paper and then seeing people trapped on rooftops waving over a Private Rescue helicopter...and seeing the crew lower a credit card swiper before lowering the basket.

"Who knows Morse Code for 'No, we don't take Discover?'"
 
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