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(LA Times)   Parent's complaint gets Stephen King book removed from high school. But sometimes they come back   (latimes.com) divider line 119
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2012-10-28 04:53:50 PM  

geoduck42: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

And I guess they're now doing up The Breathing Method as well. Which probably isn't gonna work out real well, but we shall see.

King has kept Rage out of print for years, so it'd be a particularly dedicated librarian who tracked down a copy to stock..


I just googled it, and there are copies available, in paper and e-books. Rage itself, the 1977 stand alone, is expensive, but you can get it used from Amazon in The Bachman Books collection for under ten dollars.
 
2012-10-28 04:57:17 PM  
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2012-10-28 05:11:13 PM  
publishingperspectives.com

/that guy creeps me the fark out
 
2012-10-28 05:18:46 PM  

BronyMedic: RoyBatty: So um, can you give me chapter and verse so to speak?

Song of Solomon 5:4

4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.


Hilarious. Thank you.
 
2012-10-28 05:29:17 PM  
I honestly thought this was going to be over the scene towards the end of IT. The one where they're all in the sewer together after fighting the spider, that made me make this face. --> @_@ If you've read it, you know the one.
 
2012-10-28 05:37:10 PM  

Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.


the 4th, is about a pregnant lady who loses her head in a car crash. The baby lives.
THAT needs to be made into a movie.
 
2012-10-28 05:41:37 PM  

TrashcanMan: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

the 4th, is about a pregnant lady who loses her head in a car crash. The baby lives.
THAT needs to be made into a movie.


It is.

I am happy to see our local library still carrying Rage.
 
2012-10-28 05:44:55 PM  
Great book... required reading IMO.

Kings conversational, minimalist style are perfect to tantalize young readers and the unaccomplished adult readers among us.

With an occasional gem of literary excellence thrown in.

Skeleton Crew made me laugh and get scared and contemplate taboo topics when I was young...

Freaking Dolores Claiborne anyone?
 
2012-10-28 05:49:41 PM  
Anyone notice that the article correctly identifies the book as "Different Seasons", but it is called "Dark Seasons" in the photo caption?
 
2012-10-28 05:51:14 PM  

prince of peas: Anyone notice that the article correctly identifies the book as "Different Seasons", but it is called "Dark Seasons" in the photo caption?


Must be from the alternate universe.
 
2012-10-28 05:51:23 PM  
Wait. And it's not been stolen?

namegoeshere: TrashcanMan: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

the 4th, is about a pregnant lady who loses her head in a car crash. The baby lives.
THAT needs to be made into a movie.

It is.

I am happy to see our local library still carrying Rage.

 
2012-10-28 06:00:08 PM  

TrashcanMan: Wait. And it's not been stolen?

namegoeshere: TrashcanMan: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

the 4th, is about a pregnant lady who loses her head in a car crash. The baby lives.
THAT needs to be made into a movie.

It is.

I am happy to see our local library still carrying Rage.


Nope. Actually I should clarify: they have several copies of The Bachman Books. But they're all in or checked out - I just put one on hold.
 
2012-10-28 06:01:41 PM  
And a little child shall lead them...ok, maybe not so little, but still.
 
2012-10-28 06:02:45 PM  
Well hell, Everyone who likes King has the Bachmann books.

namegoeshere: TrashcanMan: Wait. And it's not been stolen?

namegoeshere: TrashcanMan: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

the 4th, is about a pregnant lady who loses her head in a car crash. The baby lives.
THAT needs to be made into a movie.

It is.

I am happy to see our local library still carrying Rage.

Nope. Actually I should clarify: they have several copies of The Bachman Books. But they're all in or checked out - I just put one on hold.

 
2012-10-28 06:06:56 PM  

James F. Campbell: FTA: The other members of the committee, all adults, reportedly didn't even read the book through before voting.

Frankly, it would have been more shocking if they had read it.


It's always like that. These douchebag "committees" hear about some book or other that maybe one of them has read, and apparently based on the word of that ONE member, go "okey-dokey!" and vote to ban it without even checking.

What is WITH people? Are you that stupid you don't want to be sure something is bad before you condemn it? Are you so anxious to be accepted by your peers? That's pathetic.
 
2012-10-28 06:07:13 PM  

Confabulat: Uchiha_Cycliste: It's a damn shame, and I'm usually zealously anti-censorship but RAGE really strikes me as a story that shouldn't be in a school.

King let Rage go out of print after a copy was found in some school shooter's locker. It's the only Stephen King book that's not being published anymore.


As far as I knew, I thought RAGE only existed in "the Bachman Books" Did it ever stand alone? Do the Bachman books now just have one less story? That was an amazing collection adn I would LOVE to see The Long Walk made into a movie, as long as they stuck to the ending religiously.
 
2012-10-28 06:08:37 PM  

eraser8: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

I'm probably the one person in North America who disliked The Shawshank Redemption. But, I really did. I thought it was crap. The film, I mean; I haven't read the story.


Hooray, you're different! Now stop talking while real people who can read discuss adult things.
 
2012-10-28 06:09:09 PM  

whidbey: prince of peas: Anyone notice that the article correctly identifies the book as "Different Seasons", but it is called "Dark Seasons" in the photo caption?

Must be from the alternate universe.


It's the crimson king's personal copy, or Randall Flagg changed it.
 
2012-10-28 06:10:48 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Confabulat: Uchiha_Cycliste: It's a damn shame, and I'm usually zealously anti-censorship but RAGE really strikes me as a story that shouldn't be in a school.

King let Rage go out of print after a copy was found in some school shooter's locker. It's the only Stephen King book that's not being published anymore.

As far as I knew, I thought RAGE only existed in "the Bachman Books" Did it ever stand alone? Do the Bachman books now just have one less story? That was an amazing collection adn I would LOVE to see The Long Walk made into a movie, as long as they stuck to the ending religiously.


Yes, Rage was released independently in 1977.
 
2012-10-28 06:12:05 PM  
I think namegoeshere answered my comment/question.
 
2012-10-28 06:12:49 PM  
I think namesgoeshere answered my comment/question again =D. heh.

I need to refresh more.
 
2012-10-28 06:15:26 PM  
From all knowing Wiki regarding The Bachman Books:

The US editions of this collection and the novel Rage were allowed to go out of print by the author and publisher because of the Heath High School shooting - a school shooting incident involving Michael Carneal. The remaining three novels are still in print and are published as separate books.
The Bachman Books is still in print in the United Kingdom although it no longer contains Rage. In a footnote to the preface of the more recent Bachman book Blaze (dated 30 January 2007) King wrote of Rage: "Now out of print, and a good thing."
 
2012-10-28 06:19:19 PM  

Confabulat: From all knowing Wiki regarding The Bachman Books:

The US editions of this collection and the novel Rage were allowed to go out of print by the author and publisher because of the Heath High School shooting - a school shooting incident involving Michael Carneal. The remaining three novels are still in print and are published as separate books.
The Bachman Books is still in print in the United Kingdom although it no longer contains Rage. In a footnote to the preface of the more recent Bachman book Blaze (dated 30 January 2007) King wrote of Rage: "Now out of print, and a good thing."


I guess I'm pretty stoked to have a couple copies of the old Bachman books. Further, I'll bet a ton of library used book stores have copies.
 
2012-10-28 06:24:47 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I think namesgoeshere answered my comment/question again =D. heh.

I need to refresh more.


How about a nice cold Fresca?
 
2012-10-28 06:26:53 PM  

whidbey: geoduck42: King has kept Rage out of print for years, so it'd be a particularly dedicated librarian who tracked down a copy to stock..

I'm sure you can find a copy of "The Bachman Books" somewhere.


I loved roadwork out of that one. I like common man revenge stories.
 
2012-10-28 06:31:55 PM  
The Bachman books were awesome, The Long Walk, being the best of the all IMO.
 
2012-10-28 06:32:57 PM  

whidbey: Uchiha_Cycliste: I think namesgoeshere answered my comment/question again =D. heh.

I need to refresh more.

How about a nice cold Fresca?


I think I want a Fanta (girl)
 
2012-10-28 06:38:42 PM  

thepostess: The Bachman books were awesome, The Long Walk, being the best of the all IMO.


For ONCE he didn't bungle the ending... and it was damn important that he didn't too.
 
2012-10-28 06:51:07 PM  

baufan2005: whidbey: geoduck42: King has kept Rage out of print for years, so it'd be a particularly dedicated librarian who tracked down a copy to stock..

I'm sure you can find a copy of "The Bachman Books" somewhere.

I loved roadwork out of that one. I like common man revenge stories.


And of course, "The Running Man."

Fun bunch of books that King didn't take too seriously. Otherwise, they'd be twice the length, I'm sure.
 
2012-10-28 07:04:32 PM  
The only books that are enlightening
are the books that we burn.
 
2012-10-28 07:12:58 PM  

Teresaol31: (He's also read all of the Xantha books by Piers XaAnthony,...


/FTFY
//pett peav
 
2012-10-28 07:49:40 PM  

Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.


I've been trying to forget that movie since the night I saw it. Horrible mangling of the novella.
 
2012-10-28 08:01:11 PM  

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Tramadol. My mum ended up in hospital after a seizure. Her symptoms were similar to a mild stroke - partial paralysis, unable to use language correctly. For example, she forgot how to refer to herself correctly and instead used 'she me'. She recovered within a couple of weeks but still has terrible short term memory.

Tramadol was the suspected culprit.
 
2012-10-28 08:04:09 PM  
For those looking for older, out of print books, like RAGE, try half.com. I can usually find a few copies of anything I want on there. (At least until SCOTUS rules on re-selling intellectual property rights and screws the entire known "used goods" industry but good.) http://www.ebay.com/itm/STEPHEN-KINGS-RAGE-Bachman-Books-Paperback-Edi tion-/261117983445?category=29223
 
2012-10-28 08:06:31 PM  

Shadowtag: eraser8: Krymson Tyde: 'Two of its stories have been made into movies: "The Shawshank Redemption" and "Stand by Me."'
Apt Pupil?

More to the point: this is stupid.

I'm probably the one person in North America who disliked The Shawshank Redemption. But, I really did. I thought it was crap. The film, I mean; I haven't read the story.

Hooray, you're different! Now stop talking while real people who can read discuss adult things.


benjimus4.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-28 08:11:36 PM  
My rural public HS was really run by the local Baptists who comprised the school board. Understand it was a PUBLIC school. But the school board was overwhelmingly Baptist.

Banning books was one of their favorite things to do.

They banned "Black Like Me" even tho nobody in my home town ever saw a black person.

Anything by George Orwell was automatically banned (too Communist), as was "Lord of the Flies" (because a pig got stuck in the butt).

The library had a subscription to Scientific American. That got pulled because of a single article about evolution.

It was embarrassing when we had a lyceum that involved some black African demonstrating native dances. The principal shut down the show, kicked them out of the gym and sent us all back to class. No reason given.

This was mid 1970's, Northeastern Wisconsin.
 
2012-10-28 08:47:09 PM  
Why do people have to try to screw the entire student body? Even my father, who should have been on a locked ward, didn't try to have books banned from the library. Every book on my AP English reading list was banned by his church and I was strictly forbidden to read them, but he rarely presumed to tell other people how to raise their kids and he never tried to have books banned from the school.

It was a pain hiding those books in the attic. We didn't have pull down stairs. There was just a little square hole in the ceiling of a closet. I had to stand on a chair, step over onto the clothing bar, get another foot on the shelf above the clothing bar, get my upper body through the hole, and heave myself up. Had to do the reverse coming down. I fell once and a ring I was wearing got caught on a nail in the wall. I was hanging by my finger unable to reach the floor. I wouldn't scream out because I wasn't sure whether my father was home. When my mother found me, first she jumped like she'd been shocked, then she started laughing so hard, she couldn't get me down. Didn't matter though, the plaster and nail gave way at that time and I dropped.

I miss that side of my mother. Thanks to mental illness she doesn't laugh anymore. Everything is all bad all the time.
 
2012-10-28 09:03:12 PM  

geoduck42: And I guess they're now doing up The Breathing Method as well. Which probably isn't gonna work out real well, but we shall see.


That one sucked ass... Probably my least favorite of all his stuff. He cpould have made it 15 pages long, and it might not have sucked as much.

geoduck42: King has kept Rage out of print for years, so it'd be a particularly dedicated librarian who tracked down a copy to stock..


Still for sale at Amazon.

The Bachman Books
 
2012-10-28 09:06:47 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I read IT in 6th grade, took all semester. =D. Read Pet Cemetery in 4th grade after Jurassic Park.


I read IT in 12th grade(When it came out). I was so taken by it that I read it in something like 4 days. Loaned it to a friend who decided it was just too much book for a busy, partying High Schooler. I got it back and re-read it again in another 4 days. God I love that book. Never actually got around to watching the movie, just bits and pieces.
 
2012-10-28 09:10:05 PM  
Actually THREE of the four novellas in Different Seasons have been made into movies.

1) "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" was made into the movie "The Shawshank Redemption"
2) "Apt Pupil" was made into a movie with the same name.
3) "The Body" was made into the movie called "Stand By Me"

One a side note, the Bachman Books were awesome. "Rage" and "Roadwork" were okay. "The Long Walk" and "The Running Man" were awesome.

I am still mad at that travesty of a movie "The Running Man". A faithful adaptation probably could not get made today due to the ending.
 
2012-10-28 09:10:39 PM  
Considering Stephen King's work over the years, Different Season's is pretty tame.
 
2012-10-28 09:10:41 PM  

Mikey1969: I was so taken by it that I read it in something like 4 days


That's true of a lot of his stuff. At least it starts out pretty damn inspired, and I can't put it down.
 
2012-10-28 09:12:14 PM  
In 6th grade, we were learning about the Holocaust and my teacher showed us the short film of The Lottery as a lesson about groupthink. I was simultaneously freaked out and fascinated.

I went home and told my mom about the film and she instantly gave me the story to read, which we then stayed up way past my bedtime to discuss.

Two days later, our teacher issued a tearful apology to the class for showing us the film. Apparently a bunch of parents biatched and my teacher was almost fired. That's when I knew my mom was awesome.

/and yes, she owns every Bachman and King book
//she's still awesome
 
2012-10-28 09:14:13 PM  

Teresaol31: I insist that my fifth grader read primarily from the banned book list: this semester he's re-reading Harry Potter for report purposes because I know the teacher has likely read those, over the summer he read Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn, Puddin'head Wilson (yes, we like Mark Twain around here) and To Kill a Mockingbird, and he just finished "The Hobbit," but we're saving LOTR for next semester. My parenting philosophy has always been to encourage the kids to read that which others say they should not read, because those are the books that actually TEACH you something about real life. Yes, I have made him a literary geek, but guess what? He reads at a 10th grade level while the other kids in his class are struggling with the generic "age appropriate" crap that the school approves of. (He's also read all of the Xantha books by Piers Anthony, but nobody but those are simply to kill time between the more serious stuff he's read.) I think that King's writing is rather vapid for the most part, but honestly getting a kid over the age of 12 to read AT ALL for pleasure is damn near impossible these days, so I'd rather them read King, Koontz, or any of the other modern thriller writers than not to read at all.


I can't get my stepsons to read ANYTHING. Thank God my daughter is here, she is the most inquisitive 4 year old I've ever run into, and already sits down with her books and reads them to her stuffed animals, making up stories based on the pictures. There is still hope. :-) She already made my wife buy us a telescope for looking at "the stars and moon and the planets".
 
2012-10-28 09:17:35 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: I can think of one story, just one that shouldn't be in schools... RAGE.
(maybe)


Yeah, not a censorship kind of guy, but this one is kind of bad form to have in schools after all of the school shootings and stuff. Maybe it's something that King has to officially say that he would appreciate not having this in school libraries and see if the libraries comply. Kind of a voluntary censorship thing. I'd rather not have this censorship bullshiat though.
 
2012-10-28 09:17:35 PM  

K3rmy: Actually THREE of the four novellas in Different Seasons have been made into movies.

1) "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" was made into the movie "The Shawshank Redemption"
2) "Apt Pupil" was made into a movie with the same name.
3) "The Body" was made into the movie called "Stand By Me"

One a side note, the Bachman Books were awesome. "Rage" and "Roadwork" were okay. "The Long Walk" and "The Running Man" were awesome.

I am still mad at that travesty of a movie "The Running Man". A faithful adaptation probably could not get made today due to the ending.


Considering the ending will never get approved as it is, I could accept a slightly altered ending if it gave us an otherwise faithful adaptation.
 
2012-10-28 09:25:08 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: As far as I knew, I thought RAGE only existed in "the Bachman Books" Did it ever stand alone? Do the Bachman books now just have one less story? That was an amazing collection adn I would LOVE to see The Long Walk made into a movie, as long as they stuck to the ending religiously.


They were all originally published separately. I agree that seeing The Long Walk as a movie would be great IF they could make it work, it might not work, and as a result, might just be a slow moving mess. If the right person directed it, the right person wrote the screenplay, and it was edited correctly, you could have an awesome movie. One of my all time favorite stories by anyone, that's for sure.
 
2012-10-28 09:29:30 PM  

K3rmy: I am still mad at that travesty of a movie "The Running Man". A faithful adaptation probably could not get made today due to the ending.


Yeah, some people think this movie was amazing. I thought if it didn't have the story to go on, it would have been great, but it was a disappointment after the story. Same with Total Recall, sure it was fun, but it doesn't have the 'something' that Philip K Dick gave it, instead it turned into a campy, silly movie rather than a sci-fi thriller.

Oh well...
 
2012-10-28 09:32:56 PM  

whidbey: Mikey1969: I was so taken by it that I read it in something like 4 days

That's true of a lot of his stuff. At least it starts out pretty damn inspired, and I can't put it down.


I have no problem with the length of his stuff. As a matter of fact, I like his attention to detail and backstory enough that I miss it when other writers don't add it. Unfortunately, his endings do seem to be the weakest part of his stuff. It's ok though, because when I take the whole, it is still worth it.
 
2012-10-28 09:33:49 PM  

ArmanTanzarian: Great book... required reading IMO.

Kings conversational, minimalist style are perfect to tantalize young readers and the unaccomplished adult readers among us.

With an occasional gem of literary excellence thrown in.

Skeleton Crew made me laugh and get scared and contemplate taboo topics when I was young...

Freaking Dolores Claiborne anyone?


Gerald's game gave me chills. I love me some kinky tied-up sex, but even though i'm an avid King reader/rereader, I've only read that one once.
 
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