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(Daily Mail)   Not news: Man gets cold called a lot. News: He bills them £10 per minute for his time Fark.com: He gets paid   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line 36
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2012-10-27 09:46:39 PM  
This is farking brilliant!
 
2012-10-27 10:24:11 PM  
I always wanted to do this, but didn't know if it would work.

I guess it does.
 
2012-10-27 10:28:29 PM  
Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.
 
2012-10-27 10:35:08 PM  

kroonermanblack: Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.


Those are the rules in America (fark yeah). This guy is a limey, where they are not as civilized.
 
2012-10-27 10:50:51 PM  

kroonermanblack: Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.


Four questions? I just received a one-question "political survey." Seriously, a call from a group terrified that the gays might marry in my home state of Washington, asked me one question, and then hung up.
 
2012-10-27 10:58:15 PM  
Regardless of his sudden windfall of cash, I would like to buy this man a pint.
 
2012-10-27 11:13:21 PM  

FormlessOne: Seriously, a call from a group terrified that the gays might marry in my home state of Washington, asked me one question, and then hung up.


So, IS your refrigerator running?
 
2012-10-27 11:27:28 PM  

LordOfThePings: FormlessOne: Seriously, a call from a group terrified that the gays might marry in my home state of Washington, asked me one question, and then hung up.

So, IS your refrigerator running GAY?


FTFY
 
2012-10-27 11:41:50 PM  
If people actually understood their local laws and could be bothered to spend the time to pursue idiots in small claims court - a lot less of this would happen.

/realize this is in the UK
 
2012-10-27 11:51:17 PM  
Given the amount of time he had to spend collecting evidence, filing court paperwork, and presenting his case, it probably wasn't worth the mere 195 quid he collected in the end.

/solution: start billing £20/minute
 
2012-10-28 12:05:50 AM  
How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article
 
2012-10-28 12:23:47 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article


Except there is, in many cases. Depending on the call type they're finable (US rules there) per offense, occasionally billable for 'my time' which the courts usually have to establish as roughly your hourly wage or rate.
 
2012-10-28 01:11:08 AM  

poot_rootbeer: Given the amount of time he had to spend collecting evidence, filing court paperwork, and presenting his case, it probably wasn't worth the mere 195 quid he collected in the end.

/solution: start billing £20/minute


In my opinion its not about the money, but the precedent. He was smart about his demands and the court ruled in his favor, opening the flood gates for others to follow suit.
 
2012-10-28 01:44:19 AM  
Finding the idiot running the company and hanging him for fraud would be more effective.
 
2012-10-28 02:00:22 AM  

kroonermanblack: Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.


I remember hearing a recorded call about taking a political survey and then I would be rewarded with a vacation. I hung up and thought the time share people had done that exact thing to try to get around the law.
 
2012-10-28 02:36:44 AM  

gingerjet: If people actually understood their local laws and could be bothered to spend the time to pursue idiots in small claims court - a lot less of this would happen.

/realize this is in the UK


Some of us do; I've got a court date coming up to try and claim the rest of the cost of my replacement car from the guy who rear-ended and totaled the other one...
 
2012-10-28 03:48:00 AM  
One of my psych professors would bill doctors and shiat like cable companies his full hourly compensation for therapy, rounding up, for cancellations.

He said they always paid out because they knew they would lose in court. He was a bit of an ass but the businesses and doctors he stuck it to were using the same business model. Funny stuff.
 
2012-10-28 04:46:33 AM  

HotWingAgenda: kroonermanblack: Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.

Those are the rules in America (fark yeah). This guy is a limey, where they are not as civilized.


Deny the political survey, advise them at the beginning your clock is running. Problem solved.

/Worked for RDD in Missoula, MT in 2006. We (as phone monkeys) were told this might come up, and the data is worth the cost.
 
2012-10-28 04:55:37 AM  
Don't answer your phone if you don't know the caller!!!! 

/And get a Google Number
 
2012-10-28 05:38:36 AM  

TheSwizz: IRregardless of his sudden windfall of cash, I would like to buy this man a pint.


FTFY

/sorry, pet peave
 
2012-10-28 05:54:05 AM  

Doctor Jan Itor: Don't answer your phone if you don't know the caller!!!! 

/And get a Google Number


We have a digital readout on our phone, if the number comes up and we don't know it, we don't answer. If 'Out of Area' shows, it's an Indian Call Centre and again, ignored. For two reasons, really. Firstly, because they're a pain in the arse, and secondly, a lot of these companies mass-call 5 random numbers at once. It's the people that pick up that automatically get entered into the system as genuine numbers, the others are discarded, until the random number generator digs it up again.
 
2012-10-28 07:37:51 AM  

kendelrio: TheSwizz: IRregardless of his sudden windfall of cash, I would like to buy this man a pint.

FTFY

/sorry, pet peave


Back in the days, Trolling meant something.

/Stop phoning it in or we're going to bill you £200
 
2012-10-28 08:03:35 AM  

EngineerAU: kendelrio: TheSwizz: IRregardless of his sudden windfall of cash, I would like to buy this man a pint.

FTFY

/sorry, pet peave

Back in the days, Trolling meant something.

/Stop phoning it in or we're going to bill you £200


I figured I'd throw it out for old times sake....

/hanging up the phone...
 
2012-10-28 09:12:42 AM  
Man, sadly I have to answer my phone for unknown numbers, for work or some personal matters, I can never be sure where I'm going to get a call from (it's not out of the ordinary for friends to relocate to DFW from anywhere in the US), and the call centers use routing phones in Jersey or Arizona or Utah or Seattle..
 
2012-10-28 09:24:07 AM  
I had some idiots calling and they wouldn't stop but I knew where they were calling from. After the "calls can be recorded for quality assurance" I mentioned to the person I needed to talk to the supervisor. I told him that if his center calls me again that is agreement of a contract where his company can harass me by phone but I get to cut one foot out of the phone cable to his office. He was very sure of himself until I mentioned that if I walked out of a well know pizza place in town, down the alley into the back lot of a dingy parking lot, there was a cable hanging low enough that it could be cut and that was my offer and he can call me back to accept it. I've never had a telemarketer backtrack so fast to say I was on the do not call list-- the same one that the owners were on and I would never get a call from them again. Its a shame. I would have liked to take them off line for a few days until someone could repatch the wire.
 
2012-10-28 10:29:33 AM  

HotWingAgenda: kroonermanblack: Technically they're not allowed to call period.

Except for 'political reasons'.

Hey, imagine that, every cold call now has a 4 question idiotic 'political survey' attached.

Those are the rules in America (fark yeah). This guy is a limey, where they are not as civilized.


Yeah, we are so uncivilized, politicians can't even call us on our phones. They do tend to dump a couple of pamphlets through the door, and they get some free time on TV (if they big enough a party, I forget the exact rules), but that is about it. In theory the TPS (Telephone Preference Service) should stop all cold calls, but their are ways they can get around that (surveys can cold call you, and if you answer their questions, that can count as "creating a business relationship" or something that allows third parties to call you).
 
2012-10-28 10:30:19 AM  

kroonermanblack: ArcadianRefugee: How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article

Except there is, in many cases. Depending on the call type they're finable (US rules there) per offense, occasionally billable for 'my time' which the courts usually have to establish as roughly your hourly wage or rate.


Here's what you do: Set your answering machine message (or have some other prerecorded message you can play when you pick up the phone) to specify that any unsolicited incoming calls will be billed at $x per minute and that continuing to remain on the line after the beep is agreement to this price, then after it's done playing the message, you just pick up the phone and actually listen/talk.
 
2012-10-28 10:47:52 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article


He told them that if they called again he would bill them ten pounds a minute.

They called again.

He did.
 
2012-10-28 11:01:10 AM  
I usually turn the calls into a sex call.
If a woman calls, I start by asking what they're wearing, and keep going.
If a guy calls, I pretend I'm gay and interested.
Keep going long enough, they'll hang up.
 
2012-10-28 11:22:00 AM  

kroonermanblack


Man, sadly I have to answer my phone for unknown numbers, for work or some personal matters, I can never be sure where I'm going to get a call from (it's not out of the ordinary for friends to relocate to DFW from anywhere in the US), and the call centers use routing phones in Jersey or Arizona or Utah or Seattle..


You could let it go to voicemail. An actual friend or someone from work would be more likely to leave a message.
 
2012-10-28 02:41:55 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article


As soon as they call inform them they will be billed for time spent? If they don't ask the price or hang up, their fault.

Best part is telemarketers are often under orders to not hang up on people.
 
2012-10-28 04:42:58 PM  

kendelrio: TheSwizz: IRregardless of his sudden windfall of cash, I would like to buy this man a pint.

FTFY

/sorry, pet peave


www.sonymoviechannel.com
Regardless
 
2012-10-28 06:01:46 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: kroonermanblack

Man, sadly I have to answer my phone for unknown numbers, for work or some personal matters, I can never be sure where I'm going to get a call from (it's not out of the ordinary for friends to relocate to DFW from anywhere in the US), and the call centers use routing phones in Jersey or Arizona or Utah or Seattle..


You could let it go to voicemail. An actual friend or someone from work would be more likely to leave a message.


And if they're calling from behind an automated phone system I need an extension to dial into, the caller ID either doesn't give that, or blocks the entire number.

I get some weird calls ok?
 
2012-10-28 06:52:54 PM  

DON.MAC: I had some idiots calling and they wouldn't stop but I knew where they were calling from. After the "calls can be recorded for quality assurance" I mentioned to the person I needed to talk to the supervisor. I told him that if his center calls me again that is agreement of a contract where his company can harass me by phone but I get to cut one foot out of the phone cable to his office. He was very sure of himself until I mentioned that if I walked out of a well know pizza place in town, down the alley into the back lot of a dingy parking lot, there was a cable hanging low enough that it could be cut and that was my offer and he can call me back to accept it. I've never had a telemarketer backtrack so fast to say I was on the do not call list-- the same one that the owners were on and I would never get a call from them again. Its a shame. I would have liked to take them off line for a few days until someone could repatch the wire.


Does anyone ever get the feeling that some of the people around here are taking some fairly strange drugs?
 
2012-10-29 07:20:12 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: How do you bill someone for something when there was no contract or understood pricing schedule beforehand?

/You all owe me $15 each for the time it took me to read your posts
//double if it was a Gawker-linked article


You warn them at the start of the call that should they wish to continue then you will bill them for your time at £10 per minute and give them a chance to say yes or no. Do not move on to other questions until they say yes or no. After they say yes, then quiz them as to their name, their department, the address of their company , the name of the person to bill, their direct line number, their email address and then, 5 minutes later say "Now, what was the question you wanted to ask me?"
 
2012-10-29 09:50:42 AM  
I spent about two months getting daily or even twice-daily calls from the "Free Security Center" scam calls. I didn't answer for awhile, but finally I did just to see how the system worked. I happened to have a lot of free time at work at the time, so I started wasting their time before "accidentally" hanging up, or just saying I had to go now but it was fun. Sometimes I'd be chatting with the guy or gal for an hour or so, and their annoyance once they realized what I was doing was great. I'd hoped they'd finally put my number on a blacklist or something, but they kept calling. Finally I'd figured out the system enough to prepare fake information and got them to actually dispatch a tech to an abandoned house not too far off. I got one confused call from them asking if I was not home or something, and haven't heard from them since.

/csb
//Probably could have done something like this but frankly the entertainment was worth it
 
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