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(BBC)   Unlimited election spending caused a sharp improvement in the US economy last quarter   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 104
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2012-10-27 07:41:50 PM  
No duh.
 
2012-10-27 07:42:19 PM  
This is not a good thing.
 
2012-10-27 07:42:53 PM  
It'll be over soon.
 
2012-10-27 07:43:24 PM  
How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Thank you.
 
2012-10-27 07:44:00 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.


For whom?
 
2012-10-27 07:46:03 PM  
Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.
 
2012-10-27 07:47:19 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.


Until everyone wants to prepare for midterms.
 
2012-10-27 07:47:37 PM  

ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.


Seriously.
 
2012-10-27 07:49:12 PM  
national defence spending rose by 13%.

Hey, that's what we need to get out of this slump -- another war! Why hasn't anyone ever thought of that before? Do there happen to be any antagonistic countries in the Middle East that might make good opponents?

/Oh yeah, that one. Hmm, that one too. That other one? Sure, why not.
 
2012-10-27 07:50:39 PM  
I have to pay for calls that come in on my phone. This election year I have been getting 20+ calls per day from political parties. This is literally the most number of bullshiat calls I have ever gotten in my entire life. I had to disconnect my answering machine because they were costing me about $100 a month in phone bills.

Can I send a bill to these farking jackholes for calling me so much?
 
2012-10-27 07:51:31 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.


Ya right
 
2012-10-27 07:52:17 PM  

Indubitably: ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.

Seriously.


Ah yes. Just imagine all caviar, champagne, and snuff porn that money could have bought for the oligarchs that funded these super PACs.
 
2012-10-27 07:52:48 PM  
Since spending bills have to go through Congress, then I guess you could say the Congressional Republicans want to help Obama get re-elected.
 
2012-10-27 07:54:29 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.


Yes, it will.
Election Campaign 2016 starts the next Wednesday.
 
2012-10-27 07:54:35 PM  

Indubitably: Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.

For whom?


For the sane people.
 
2012-10-27 07:54:49 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-27 07:55:28 PM  
I'm guessing you would find an unprecedented spike in the number of DVRs purchased.
 
2012-10-27 07:56:13 PM  
Gee, I wonder how many teachers you could have paid...
Maybe a payment to the Debt,,,
Coulda had a new shiney aircraft carrier,,,
Maybe a B3 Bomber or 2,,,
 
2012-10-27 07:57:06 PM  
Unintended consequences.
Bad for Obama
 
2012-10-27 07:57:34 PM  

rabidarmadillo24: Indubitably: ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.

Seriously.

Ah yes. Just imagine all caviar, champagne, and snuff porn that money could have bought for the oligarchs that funded these super PACs.


Your radar is broken.
 
2012-10-27 07:57:56 PM  

Indubitably: ...


HEY

YOU

STAHP

happyminutes.blog.com
 
2012-10-27 07:58:07 PM  
rabidarmadillo24: Ah yes. Just imagine all caviar, champagne, and snuff porn that money could have bought for the oligarchs that funded these super PACs.

The best part is that a very small number of people have given a very large sum of money to Romney, and when he loses it will all be for naught. It will only demonstrate how foolish they are with their money.

Freely give a fark-ton of your money so ideologues can get into office and fark things up for most people = Good.

Have your massive income taxed at a slightly higher percentage for the good of humanity = Worst. Thing. Ever.
 
2012-10-27 07:58:10 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Indubitably: Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.

For whom?

For the sane people.


And so is yours.
 
2012-10-27 07:59:02 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Indubitably: ...

HEY

YOU

STAHP

[happyminutes.blog.com image 391x430]


Nice...
 
2012-10-27 07:59:32 PM  
god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.
 
2012-10-27 08:01:00 PM  
static.guim.co.uk 

"So what your saying is that all that talking about improving the economy is actually improving the economy? Whooooaaaaaaaaaa." 
 
2012-10-27 08:01:19 PM  

BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.


BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.


Buh-but unlimited election spending=FREE SPEECH
 
2012-10-27 08:02:08 PM  

vodka: I have to pay for calls that come in on my phone. This election year I have been getting 20+ calls per day from political parties. This is literally the most number of bullshiat calls I have ever gotten in my entire life. I had to disconnect my answering machine because they were costing me about $100 a month in phone bills.

Can I send a bill to these farking jackholes for calling me so much?


You could always trade in your Jitterbug for a better plan
 
2012-10-27 08:03:27 PM  
Obviously, as usual, only about three people read the article.
 
2012-10-27 08:04:00 PM  

snocone: Gee, I wonder how many teachers you could have paid...
Maybe a payment to the Debt,,,
Coulda had a new shiney aircraft carrier,,,
Maybe a B3 Bomber or 2,,,


Maybe spelling lessons for everyone...

/shiny
 
2012-10-27 08:06:22 PM  

peterthx: snocone: Gee, I wonder how many teachers you could have paid...
Maybe a payment to the Debt,,,
Coulda had a new shiney aircraft carrier,,,
Maybe a B3 Bomber or 2,,,

Maybe spelling lessons for everyone...

/shiny


Or, maybe a broader mind
 
2012-10-27 08:06:22 PM  
Finally, real evidence of what I have always suspected. We have finally discovered America's one inexhaustible national resource that can feed on itself forever and never run dry....

....and it's a giant flowing river of bullshiat, running through every last state, district, and city in the whole country.
 
2012-10-27 08:07:59 PM  

Indubitably: rabidarmadillo24: Indubitably: ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.

Seriously.

Ah yes. Just imagine all caviar, champagne, and snuff porn that money could have bought for the oligarchs that funded these super PACs.

Your radar is broken.


The point I'm trying to make is that realistically this money would have sat in their accounts gathering dust, rather than creating jobs. This brings me to a very difficult crossroad in my life, because I've always been against the citizens united ruling. I fear my head may implode.
 
2012-10-27 08:11:52 PM  
What is this, I don't even.
 
2012-10-27 08:14:27 PM  
It wasn't worth all of the political attack adds, that's for sure.
 
2012-10-27 08:16:13 PM  

rabidarmadillo24: Indubitably: rabidarmadillo24: Indubitably: ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.

Seriously.

Ah yes. Just imagine all caviar, champagne, and snuff porn that money could have bought for the oligarchs that funded these super PACs.

Your radar is broken.

The point I'm trying to make is that realistically this money would have sat in their accounts gathering dust, rather than creating jobs. This brings me to a very difficult crossroad in my life, because I've always been against the citizens united ruling. I fear my head may implode.


"I've never met a rich man who created jobs, but I have met large men who made lives; I wish we could ALL meet beneficence equally, regardless of who we meet or don't..."
 
2012-10-27 08:22:56 PM  
I hope you're right, Subby, I hope you're right.

It would be cool if unlimited money votes for the super-rich were counterproductive and all that spending was actually undermining the Republican, Conservative and Plutocratic camps.

It would be really cool, Shakespearean in fact:

'Tis the very sport to see, the engineer, hoist with his own petard."

Baldrick (actor Tony Robinson) explained that saying in one of the TV shows he did but I already knew the explanation. Nonetheless, the visual aids were welcome. I like him. He reads a lot of Terry Pratchett novels on talking books. He's cool.
 
2012-10-27 08:23:40 PM  
it's the only time the rich as fark people actually spend their money instead of just sitting on it saying "we need more"
 
2012-10-27 08:26:31 PM  
Nah, a few billion in election spending isn't enough stimulus to make much difference.
 
2012-10-27 08:26:46 PM  

natmar_76: This is not a good thing.


Yes. Free speech is horrible.
 
2012-10-27 08:28:42 PM  

mike0023: natmar_76: This is not a good thing.

Yes. Free speech is horrible.


Let's see:

DERP.

No, wait. HERP.

Decisions, decisions...
 
2012-10-27 08:31:23 PM  

snocone: peterthx: snocone: Gee, I wonder how many teachers you could have paid...
Maybe a payment to the Debt,,,
Coulda had a new shiney aircraft carrier,,,
Maybe a B3 Bomber or 2,,,

Maybe spelling lessons for everyone...

/shiny

Or, maybe a broader mind


Naw, he had it right. Wlhelm Shiney was a pioneer in aquatic camouflage. Probably could have called it a new "Shiney aircraft carrier" with that capital "S" though.

Heres to you, Mr Shiney, designer of camouflaged aircraft carriers!
 
2012-10-27 08:34:14 PM  

ultraholland: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

No shiat; imagine all of the actual good that could come from that money.


Ah, the old "people should spend their money on thing I think are good.
 
2012-10-27 08:34:49 PM  
"
 
2012-10-27 08:36:10 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Ah, the old "people should spend their money on things I think are good.


Yes because " affordable housing and local, organic food for people" is pure shiat and should be avoided.
 
2012-10-27 08:37:22 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Ah, the old "people should spend their money on thing I think are good.


I think people not starving or dying of preventable/curable ailments is a good thing, you farking sociopath.
 
2012-10-27 08:39:18 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: "


Please try again.

*)
 
2012-10-27 08:40:39 PM  

vodka: I have to pay for calls that come in on my phone. This election year I have been getting 20+ calls per day from political parties. This is literally the most number of bullshiat calls I have ever gotten in my entire life. I had to disconnect my answering machine because they were costing me about $100 a month in phone bills.

Can I send a bill to these farking jackholes for calling me so much?


1) Voter registration lists are a matter of public record. I have access to the name, address, age, party affiliation, gender, voting history, and other data about every registered voter living in my city.
2) You DO NOT have to provide a phone number when you register to vote.

Based on these two things, I see an easy solution to your problem.
 
2012-10-27 08:41:58 PM  

GWSuperfan: I see an easy solution to your problem.


Vote early?

/the junk mail for the election fell off drastically after I sent my ballot in, anyway.
 
2012-10-27 08:45:00 PM  
I hate seeing people respond to negative, completely f--king BS ads. To the point where they simply refuse to listen to reason, even if three months ago they would have. Because IN THEIR GUT, which has more nerve endings than their brain, they KNOW THEY'RE RIGHT. Of course.

Thankfully I am now out of the persuade idiots game and just into the helping disenfranchised folks find their polling place / get a ride / get an absentee ballot game.

I will still be really f--king glad when November 7th rolls around.

/not making election bank
//I could, and have, but I like my soul just a bit too much
///and health care from an employer that's still gonna be around the day after elections are over
 
2012-10-27 08:48:17 PM  
Did I read the same article?
 
2012-10-27 08:50:52 PM  

themindiswatching: GWSuperfan: I see an easy solution to your problem.

Vote early?

/the junk mail for the election fell off drastically after I sent my ballot in, anyway.


That works assuming that the campaigns are getting updates from the Registrar of Voters on who has returned ballots. We remove people from our lists as they vote, but if the Registrar doesn't make that info available, or campaigns are working from a static list, it would continue.
 
2012-10-27 09:04:12 PM  

GWSuperfan: themindiswatching: GWSuperfan: I see an easy solution to your problem.

Vote early?

/the junk mail for the election fell off drastically after I sent my ballot in, anyway.

That works assuming that the campaigns are getting updates from the Registrar of Voters on who has returned ballots. We remove people from our lists as they vote, but if the Registrar doesn't make that info available, or campaigns are working from a static list, it would continue.


All the junk mail is campaigns that I'd rather waste money on me (since I'm registered independent and apparently the Republicans have more money to burn.. I've only gotten Dem related stuff from groups I donate money to endorsing people). So I'm not turning in my absentee until next week.

Yeah, yeah, I'm hitting them for like 20 cents each, and tossing every one in the recycle bin right after, but it's the principle dammit. Although considering how much mail Moroun has sent our house he probably dropped $5 on all the printing and postage and fancy touches and irregular sizes and extra postage for that... god I hate that Mr Burns SOB.

/$31 million dollars. That jackass has spent $31 million dollars on one ballot initiative. And you know what? It's gonna be money well spent. For him. Not the state, we're going to be f--ked again.
 
2012-10-27 09:04:15 PM  

vodka: I have to pay for calls that come in on my phone. This election year I have been getting 20+ calls per day from political parties. This is literally the most number of bullshiat calls I have ever gotten in my entire life. I had to disconnect my answering machine because they were costing me about $100 a month in phone bills.

Can I send a bill to these farking jackholes for calling me so much?


You must be a Romney voter.
 
2012-10-27 09:04:15 PM  

Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Thank you.


What's the yield per acre of purely organic food?
 
2012-10-27 09:05:47 PM  

Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?


Liberals love to tell other people how to spend their money.
 
2012-10-27 09:06:32 PM  

brantgoose: It would be cool if unlimited money votes for the super-rich were counterproductive and all that spending was actually undermining the Republican, Conservative and Plutocratic camps.


Well the voter suppression laws might actually be doing just that.

Link
 
2012-10-27 09:07:34 PM  
This campaign could have literally saved ones of Solyndras...

/ Dems why don't you put your PACs where your mouth is and donate to teachers, unions and poor people... lead by example
 
2012-10-27 09:10:53 PM  
Bread and circuses!

Are you not entertained?
 
2012-10-27 09:12:48 PM  

Elzar: This campaign could have literally saved ones of Solyndras...

/ Dems why don't you put your PACs where your mouth is and donate to teachers, unions and poor people... lead by example


You think we don't?
 
2012-10-27 09:13:03 PM  
Happy to be living in California - at least I'm only getting calls about local shiat - maybe half a dozen a day.
Haven't gotten a single call about the Prez race.
 
2012-10-27 09:13:19 PM  

mike0023: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Liberals love to tell other people how to spend their money.


CSB:

Funniest bumper sticker I saw on the road, some twenty-five hundred miles:

"I think, therefore I am a Republican."

Wait.

Wait.

Wait for it...

*)
 
2012-10-27 09:13:55 PM  

BgJonson79: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Thank you.

What's the yield per acre of purely organic food?


Does it matter?
 
2012-10-27 09:14:02 PM  

whidbey: ArcadianRefugee: Ah, the old "people should spend their money on things I think are good.

Yes because "affordable housing and local, organic food for people" is pure shiat and should be avoided.


Affordable housing, sure, but the whole "local organic food thing"? Meh. Food is food. People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.

themindiswatching:I think people not starving or dying of preventable/curable ailments is a good thing, you farking sociopath.

I see your point, but you obviously didn't see mine. It is their money to spend as they will. The whine "but they could have spent it on [insert your favorite thing here]" doesn't hold water. Never has, never will.
 
2012-10-27 09:15:06 PM  
You do know that the political parties are just going to steal back the campaign expense money from you, the Public, eh?
 
2012-10-27 09:16:04 PM  

Hilary T. N. Seuss: national defence spending rose by 13%.

Hey, that's what we need to get out of this slump -- another war! Why hasn't anyone ever thought of that before? Do there happen to be any antagonistic countries in the Middle East that might make good opponents?

/Oh yeah, that one. Hmm, that one too. That other one? Sure, why not.


If we could invade Greece and shut down Golden Dawn before they foment the resurgence of fascism in Europe, I wouldn't mind too much.
 
2012-10-27 09:26:30 PM  

CruJones: Obviously, as usual, only about three people read the article.


Why change anything now?
 
2012-10-27 09:31:21 PM  

snocone: Gee, I wonder how many teachers you could have paid...
Maybe a payment to the Debt,,,
Coulda had a new shiney aircraft carrier,,,
Maybe a B3 Bomber or 2,,,


Actually developing a B3 is estimated to cost 65 billion. Building another B2 would cost about 2 billion, though, so yeah we could get 1 more of those.
 
2012-10-27 09:35:04 PM  
Hella way to get those tightass 1%ers to cut loose with some spare change.
 
2012-10-27 09:35:05 PM  

mike0023: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Liberals love to tell other people how to spend their money.


And conservatives love to act like all collective actions and new ideas are evil, even though their worthless, parasitic idiot asses wouldn't be alive without them.
 
2012-10-27 09:37:11 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: whidbey: ArcadianRefugee: Ah, the old "people should spend their money on things I think are good.

Yes because "affordable housing and local, organic food for people" is pure shiat and should be avoided.

Affordable housing, sure, but the whole "local organic food thing"? Meh. Food is food. People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.

themindiswatching:I think people not starving or dying of preventable/curable ailments is a good thing, you farking sociopath.

I see your point, but you obviously didn't see mine. It is their money to spend as they will. The whine "but they could have spent it on [insert your favorite thing here]" doesn't hold water. Never has, never will.


Excep that is never the whole story, it's just the dumbass narrative that loser-ass idiot dogshiat conservatives like to use so that they can live like parasites on society while never contributing anything.
 
2012-10-27 09:38:37 PM  
Yeah, maybe Keynesian economic philosophy isn't so wrong after all. Does it really matter WHY the money is moving SO LONG AS it is moving?
 
2012-10-27 09:45:50 PM  

Indubitably: local


http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/11/14/the-inefficiency-of-local-food /

Local food harms the planet and hurts the poor.
 
2012-10-27 09:47:47 PM  

HumanBeingsSuck: Yeah, maybe Keynesian economic philosophy isn't so wrong after all. Does it really matter WHY the money is moving SO LONG AS it is moving?


Kind of. Like eating Taco Bell, it does matter if your bowels are moving if they're moving because you ate a Burrito Supreme, you know?
 
2012-10-27 09:48:58 PM  

vodka: I have to pay for calls that come in on my phone. This election year I have been getting 20+ calls per day from political parties. This is literally the most number of bullshiat calls I have ever gotten in my entire life. I had to disconnect my answering machine because they were costing me about $100 a month in phone bills.

Can I send a bill to these farking jackholes for calling me so much?


I constantly get mailings encouraging me to sign up for Medicare. Fark: I'm 43.

Of course they don't cost me anything except the energy required to throw them away.
 
2012-10-27 09:49:51 PM  
Interesting take on cause and effect, subby.
 
2012-10-27 09:52:13 PM  

Gyrfalcon: CruJones: Obviously, as usual, only about three people read the article.

Why change anything now?


Yeah, if it weren't for the troll headline completely misrepresenting the content of TFA we wouldn't get to biatch about campaign spending.

Weeeeee!
 
2012-10-27 10:20:44 PM  

Indubitably: Smeggy Smurf: It'll be over soon.

For whom?


It probably doesn't matter.
 
2012-10-27 10:21:09 PM  

Jesda: Indubitably: local

http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/11/14/the-inefficiency-of-local-food /

Local food harms the planet and hurts the poor.


Well hell, I'm all for that. Fark nature. Any nature that requires flies, hornets and a farking cold winter is no nature I want to enable.
 
2012-10-27 10:23:06 PM  
Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to look at the American political system and conclude that what it needs is more money.
 
2012-10-27 10:27:59 PM  
I've caught up on a number of movies that I've been meaning to watch because of these stupid attack ads. It's hard to believe negative political ads actually sway votes.
 
2012-10-27 10:36:01 PM  
I guess all the insanity that we experienced was worth it, cuz hey, Starbucks is doing much better
 
2012-10-27 10:44:19 PM  

Indubitably: BgJonson79: Indubitably: How about you spend that on affordable housing and local, organic food for people?

Thank you.

What's the yield per acre of purely organic food?

Does it matter?


Of course it does. You're familiar with supply and demand I presume?
 
2012-10-27 11:07:28 PM  
Time to change horses

/rafalca
 
2012-10-27 11:22:10 PM  
I am still waiting for some online genius to notice that the media and polling outfits make their living off making sure the election is close. They got romney back in the race to make sure they could make more money
 
2012-10-27 11:26:35 PM  

brantgoose: I hope you're right, Subby, I hope you're right.


Baldrick (actor Tony Robinson) explained that saying in one of the TV shows he did but I already knew the explanation. Nonetheless, the visual aids were welcome. I like him. He reads a lot of Terry Pratchett novels on talking books. He's cool.


Before you wax too lyrical about Baldrick, you need to inspect his family tree

Link
 
2012-10-27 11:39:05 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Affordable housing, sure, but the whole "local organic food thing"? Meh. Food is food. People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.


What a pathetically ignorant statement.
 
2012-10-28 12:01:44 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Kind of. Like eating Taco Bell, it does matter if your bowels are moving if they're moving because you ate a Burrito Supreme, you know?


Sounds better than starving to death.
 
2012-10-28 12:18:37 AM  
It's pretty sad if the only way to get the rich to put their money back into the economy instead of hoarding it is to set up a contest where they try to buy an election.
 
2012-10-28 12:32:07 AM  
Yep! And the price of gas has surprisingly come down.
Right before the election too. Imagine that!
 
2012-10-28 12:42:31 AM  

natmar_76: This is not a good thing.


Why not? Sure it isn't sustainable, but if it helps the recovery I don't see why the super PACs stimulating the economy using money from the wealthy isn't a good thing.
 
2012-10-28 12:50:58 AM  

whidbey: ArcadianRefugee: Affordable housing, sure, but the whole "local organic food thing"? Meh. Food is food. People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.

What a pathetically ignorant statement.


Do go on. Please explain how poor people are more interested in food being locally grown than they are in simply having food.
 
2012-10-28 12:58:55 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.


is what you actually said, and that pretty much covers all of us.
 
2012-10-28 01:07:16 AM  

Jimmysolson: Yep! And the price of gas has surprisingly come down.
Right before the election too. Imagine that!


Every election
 
2012-10-28 01:13:38 AM  

HumanBeingsSuck: Gyrfalcon: Kind of. Like eating Taco Bell, it does matter if your bowels are moving if they're moving because you ate a Burrito Supreme, you know?

Sounds better than starving to death.


Again, kind of. If you eat too many of those bowel-movement-inducing Burrito Supremes, you can't take in enough calories to make up for what gets flushed out of your colon. Starvation by burrito is not a great way to go.
 
2012-10-28 01:25:10 AM  

snocone: Election Campaign 2016 starts the next Wednesday.


It probably started 6-8 months ago. Say what you will about parliamentary systems, but at least they don't have to put up with this hell for very long.
 
2012-10-28 02:39:14 AM  

jst3p: Why not? Sure it isn't sustainable, but if it helps the recovery I don't see why the super PACs stimulating the economy using money from the wealthy isn't a good thing.


Peanuts for the peasants
 
2012-10-28 03:31:57 AM  

whidbey: ArcadianRefugee: People who need food don't really give a fark if it is local or not.

is what you actually said, and that pretty much covers all of us.


Oh, be a pedant why don't ya?

Price, nutrition, and even taste all seem to me to be things people consider before they think "did this grow locally?", especially when they aren't rolling in money. If you'd said "affordable housing and affordable, nutritious food" I couldn't argue with you, but when money's an issue I really don't think most people would think "Is this organic?" That seems to me to be something pretty low on the list of concerns.

But hey, shout "ignorance" without bothering to, I dunno, show me why I am wrong.
 
2012-10-28 12:09:01 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: But hey, shout "ignorance" without bothering to, I dunno, show me why I am wrong.


You've done more for that cause than I could ever do.
 
2012-10-28 12:15:35 PM  
ArcadianRefugee: Ah, the old "people should spend their money on thing I think are good.

That's exactly what I'm saying.
 
2012-10-28 01:19:40 PM  

Jimmysolson: Yep! And the price of gas has surprisingly come down.
Right before the election too. Imagine that!


And they say the Pres doesn't control the price of gas.

Maybe the price of gas controls the Pres,,,
 
2012-10-28 10:33:00 PM  

whidbey: BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.

BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.

Buh-but unlimited election spending=FREE SPEECH


How is it free if you have to pay for it. It's speech for the wealthy.
 
2012-10-29 11:21:43 AM  

kg2095: whidbey: BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.

BlippityBleep: god damn it's time to clean house of the farking robber barons here.

Buh-but unlimited election spending=FREE SPEECH

How is it free if you have to pay for it. It's speech for the wealthy.


"Free" implies you can afford it.
 
2012-10-29 06:48:44 PM  
Local doesn't have to mean what you think it does.

Paradigm change is difficult and can cause cognitive dissonance.

Just b/c somewhat writes a book about numbers from a "numbers" angle doesn't mean he knows really jack turd about really local food, folks.

Just b/c we can spend food on making fuel (which we really can't, btw, from a global perspective), doesn't mean we should.

Paradigm shift. Money isn't everything.

Check your schema at the door, baby...

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