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2012-10-27 10:58:29 AM
i37.tinypic.com
 
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2012-10-27 11:00:39 AM

FlashHarry: [i37.tinypic.com image 170x128]


Came to do that.
 
2012-10-27 11:07:29 AM
Thanks, Captain Obvious

/sorry... Colonel. Colonel Obvious
 
2012-10-27 11:11:22 AM
So is the other one.
 
2012-10-27 11:15:44 AM

CreamFilling: So is the other one.


Tea Party?
 
2012-10-27 11:19:34 AM

CreamFilling: So is the other one.


oi47.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-27 11:31:11 AM

cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?


Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.
 
2012-10-27 11:35:03 AM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


Not limited, no. But one party is number one with racists and is full of them while the other has one or two here or there.
 
2012-10-27 11:36:12 AM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


Ah yes, the old Both Sides Are Bad Because One Party Is Dominated By Racists and the Other One Has A Few argument.
 
2012-10-27 11:36:20 AM

CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article.


No, really? Your opinions seem so informed and nuanced.
 
2012-10-27 11:43:29 AM

CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


it's like 90/10 republican. but both sides are bad, amirite?
 
2012-10-27 11:56:22 AM
ct.fra.bz
 
2012-10-27 12:10:06 PM

FlashHarry: CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.

it's like 90/10 republican. but both sides are bad, amirite?


I didn't realize the latest numbers were out. What was the raw data?

It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.
 
2012-10-27 12:32:47 PM

verbal_jizm: CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.

Not limited, no. But one party is number one with racists and is full of them while the other has one or two here or there.


There are racists who want to help the disadvantaged races and racists who want to oppress them. Then there are people who don't give a shiat about race.
 
2012-10-27 12:43:07 PM
and rape. Don't forget Republicans love rape. The new GOP is the racistist, rapeyest racist rapesters ever.


//which is sad because it's true. Stay classy Teabaggers.
 
2012-10-27 02:17:38 PM

CreamFilling: FlashHarry: CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.

it's like 90/10 republican. but both sides are bad, amirite?

I didn't realize the latest numbers were out. What was the raw data?

It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.


Your own party leaders are saying it. Do you think Wilkerson and Powell are lying?

I mean I could understand your out of hand dismissal of the blatantly obvious if it was Olberman or Kos pointing it out to you. But when your own party leaders are admitting "Yep, the GOP is full of racists," why do you continue to deny it?
 
2012-10-27 02:19:05 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


Not all Republicans are racists. But almost all racists are Republicans. But come on, bring up Robert Byrd. You know you want to. Bring up those old tired lines about what people thought 40 years ago and have refuted them, while ignoring the fact that just this week Sarah Palin made blatantly racist statements.
 
2012-10-27 03:01:03 PM
I've been assured that both sides are bad. Move along now.
 
2012-10-27 04:29:05 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-27 05:09:43 PM
If you're black, gay, a woman, or make less than a few million dollars per year, the Republicans hate you, and wouldn't mind it if you had as many rights as the average slave off the boat in the 1800s.

Yet they still have the support of about half the country.

We're a very stupid nation.
 
2012-10-27 05:42:11 PM
My hovercraft is full of eels.
 
2012-10-27 05:47:51 PM
Well, who's going to listen to this race-baiting RINO, right?
 
2012-10-27 05:47:58 PM
Powell only endorsed Obama cause he's just him. It's going to bite back when Romney wins.
 
2012-10-27 05:48:01 PM
So he's a Democrat?
 
2012-10-27 05:48:31 PM

CreamFilling: So is the other one.


Yeah, but they're mostly holdovers from the dixiecrat days
 
2012-10-27 05:49:50 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


You need to bring up the whole Dixiecrat thing. That's always a winner.
 
2012-10-27 05:50:34 PM

BarkingUnicorn: There are racists who want to help the disadvantaged races and racists who want to oppress them. Then there are people who don't give a shiat about race.


This
 
2012-10-27 05:51:25 PM
Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry
 
2012-10-27 05:51:57 PM
In before somebody starts crying about "broad brushes" painting the entire party as racists (not racist, just number one with racists) while simultaneously refusing to differentiate themselves from the racists.
 
2012-10-27 05:52:02 PM

Fart_Machine: CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.

You need to bring up the whole Dixiecrat thing. That's always a winner.


Teabaggers = Dixiecrats + Birchers + Old Senile Republics
 
2012-10-27 05:52:39 PM
OK, let's define a term here.

RACISM is a belief system that one race (usually white people) are inherently superior to other races.

Voting FOR a candidate because he's "one of your people" is not racist, any more than voting for Romney because you're both rich or from Massachusetts.

Voting AGAINST a candidate based on race implies (not proves, just implies) that you think the fact that he is of that race inherently disqualifies him for the job.

A more accurate term for most people's behavior - on both sides - would be "PREJUDICED".
 
2012-10-27 05:53:04 PM
"Hey, this hole we dug for ourselves is filthy!"

~ from Top GOP Complaints Today
 
2012-10-27 05:53:43 PM

FirstNationalBastard: If you're black, gay, a woman, or make less than a few million dollars per year, the Republicans hate you, and wouldn't mind it if you had as many rights as the average slave off the boat in the 1800s.


You can't really "hate" property. We're property to them. A means to their ultimate end.
 
2012-10-27 05:55:32 PM
Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

Impossible. It is you, Larry, who is a racist for saying that other people are racists.
 
2012-10-27 05:56:22 PM
I thought of submitting this with just that quotation but my submissions never go green, so thanks subby!
 
2012-10-27 05:56:33 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


True, but if you wear your racism proudly for all to see, you're probably a republican.
 
2012-10-27 05:56:52 PM
Your racist for thinking they're racist.

Or something.
 
2012-10-27 05:57:07 PM
"My party is full of racpists."

Also works.
 
2012-10-27 05:57:35 PM

CreamFilling: It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.


I'm going to jump out on a limb here, and speculate that you're talking about Clarence Thomas. Two words my friend, Thurgood Marshall.
 
2012-10-27 05:59:35 PM

Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]


So blacks that have been voting for whites for decades (if they were allowed to vote at all) because of institutional, cultural, legal, and economic oppression are the racists?

As the song goes.

"Well if you told me you were drowning
I would not lend a hand
I've seen your face before, my friend
But I don't know if you know who I am?
Well I was there and I saw what you did
I saw it with my own two eyes
So you can wipe off that grin
Know where you've been
It's all been a pack of lies"
 
2012-10-27 05:59:53 PM

Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]


I don't think this is necessarily true. If it were true, Blacks would be more split in other Presidential races. The truth is African-Americans tend to vote Democratic instead of along racial lines. Otherwise Herman Cain would have had a lot more support from Black folk.
 
2012-10-27 06:00:08 PM

CreamFilling: FlashHarry: CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.

it's like 90/10 republican. but both sides are bad, amirite?

I didn't realize the latest numbers were out. What was the raw data?

It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.


They did the same thing in 2008. Sarah Palin and Michael Steele were part of their great "WE GOT ONE TOO" strategy.
 
2012-10-27 06:00:47 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


Obvious troll is obvious.

Come on, son. This is Fark. We expect a higher grade of trolling around here, especially if you ever want to graduate from the weekend shift.
 
2012-10-27 06:01:48 PM
So they're now going to support a guy who was only elected because of skin color. Racist much?
 
2012-10-27 06:03:44 PM
How the fark do you respect a loudmouthed bigot and a fool as a "member of my party, as a Republican"? This guy goes a little less than halfway and then does a U-turn.
 
2012-10-27 06:03:52 PM
"Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable." Wilkerson then went on to say, "Ehhh, but whaddya gonna do about it anyway, we'll take whatever votes we can get."
 
2012-10-27 06:04:35 PM

Smeggy Smurf: So they're now going to support a guy who was only elected because of skin color. Racist much?


3/10
 
2012-10-27 06:04:41 PM

Kibbler: How the fark do you respect a loudmouthed bigot and a fool as a "member of my party, as a Republican"? This guy goes a little less than halfway and then does a U-turn.


Yeah, it's the McCain effect. Say something courageous and then immediately backtrack. WTF?
 
2012-10-27 06:04:49 PM

coco ebert: I don't think this is necessarily true. If it were true, Blacks would be more split in other Presidential races. The truth is African-Americans tend to vote Democratic instead of along racial lines. Otherwise Herman Cain would have had a lot more support from Black folk.


You know, I've seen many of your posts here, and I find them sane and rational. But I would like you to examine the quoted text and see if you can spot the dog whistle. It's there and it's telling.
 
2012-10-27 06:06:21 PM
He's the racist one for pointing out Republicans are racist.
 
2012-10-27 06:08:34 PM
Go ahead and be racist all you want - free country.

However, when your newly minted GOP legislatures in states all over the country immediately set out to pass laws specifically targeting blacks and latinos in order to cut them from the rolls, prevent them from voting on days when black churches usually vote and make people present a form of ID that 25% of that specific group doesn't have, then I get pissed....and if people call you racist you had it coming.

I hope Barack can get this thing over the finish line, principally because I think he's been an effective president despite enormous challenges, but also because the GOP needs to be punished for the way they have behaved these last four years.

Historically abusing the fillibuster (from 1 on average a year to 70+ now), negotiating in bad faith and generally making the government an ineffective, national embarrassment.
 
2012-10-27 06:09:36 PM
"My party is full of shiat"
 
2012-10-27 06:12:45 PM
My panties are full of racists.

My hovercraft is full of eels.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-27 06:14:27 PM
, said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA
 
2012-10-27 06:14:48 PM
I just found this on AP. So actually everybody is bad and nobody likes black people. An actual survey of the parties on racism

Link
 
2012-10-27 06:17:44 PM

skullkrusher: , said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA


This made me laugh.
 
2012-10-27 06:20:09 PM

a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: I don't think this is necessarily true. If it were true, Blacks would be more split in other Presidential races. The truth is African-Americans tend to vote Democratic instead of along racial lines. Otherwise Herman Cain would have had a lot more support from Black folk.

You know, I've seen many of your posts here, and I find them sane and rational. But I would like you to examine the quoted text and see if you can spot the dog whistle. It's there and it's telling.


If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.
 
2012-10-27 06:20:12 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


Wow, seriously? That really sucks.
Just remember you have a sort of dysfunctional, incestuous, mentally ill second family here on Fark. You can even come over for Thanksgiving, as long as you bring beer and don't mind that tenpoundsofmoron is a distant cousin who comes and spreads feces on the bathroom wall.

/Seriously though, find yourself a group of liberals/secularist friends and you'll have a new family pretty damn quick.
 
2012-10-27 06:20:24 PM
blog.demonfactory.com

These panties are full of racists.
 
2012-10-27 06:20:27 PM
Democrats?
 
2012-10-27 06:20:51 PM
i262.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-27 06:20:59 PM
As a former Republican until 5 years ago. Yep. In my youth I thought that it was just a BS label by the Democratic Party. Nope, it is true. Sad.
 
2012-10-27 06:20:59 PM

skullkrusher: , said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA


So no Kosher foods this year?
 
2012-10-27 06:21:25 PM
In all fairness, if Republicans lost the racist vote they would be done as a national party. They would lose like 1/3 of their base. Factor in the 47% of Americans who already will never vote Republican...
 
2012-10-27 06:23:34 PM

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: , said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA

So no Kosher foods this year?


NEIN
 
2012-10-27 06:24:24 PM
FACT: Every openly racist person I know votes Republican.
 
2012-10-27 06:24:27 PM
The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,
 
2012-10-27 06:24:49 PM
Sounds like the man enjoyed some sweet, sweet black love while under Colin Powell.
 
2012-10-27 06:25:43 PM
I see the right-wing projection is dialed up to 11 already...
 
2012-10-27 06:25:55 PM

Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.


I'd go to war to bring that into my Union.
 
2012-10-27 06:27:56 PM
What the party of "not racists" looks like:

www.lawatchdog.com
 
2012-10-27 06:28:51 PM

oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,


Pfft, yeah right. And Grizzly Adams had a beard!
 
2012-10-27 06:28:51 PM

oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,


lobshots.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-27 06:29:45 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I just found this on AP. So actually everybody is bad and nobody likes black people. An actual survey of the parties on racism

Link

"Racial prejudice has increased slightly since 2008 whether those feelings were measured using questions that explicitly asked respondents about racist attitudes, or through an experimental test that measured implicit views toward race without asking questions about that topic directly."



That sounds legit.
 
2012-10-27 06:29:53 PM
ct.fra.bz

I love conservative humor. It's not nuanced, intelligent, or even remotely funny. It's simply underlining their frustration.

I imagine the person making this was thinking something like "Grrrrrr, I keep getting schooled in these racial arguments, I'll just HIGHLIGHT THE SOURCE OF MY FRUSTRATION ON A WILLY WONKA MEME. That'll teach 'em."
 
2012-10-27 06:29:59 PM

coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.


"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.
 
2012-10-27 06:30:50 PM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[www.lawatchdog.com image 550x350]


The black panther party claims to be the party of not racists? I don't follow.
 
2012-10-27 06:31:00 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thanks, Captain Obvious

/sorry... Colonel. Colonel Obvious


It's nice that he actually came out and said it, though. Most conservatives don't have the balls to actually admit it.
 
2012-10-27 06:32:53 PM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[www.lawatchdog.com image 550x350]


Awwww. Did the scawy bwack men scare you by standing outside doing scawy bwack things? It's okay, punkin.
Who's Glenny's big boy? Who's Glenny's big boy? That's right, scooter. You're Glenny's big boy.

Now go change your underwear, wipe yourself off, have a juice box, tighten your helmet, and STFU.
 
2012-10-27 06:33:01 PM

GBmanNC: oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,

Pfft, yeah right. And Grizzly Adams had a beard!


you are a puppet: oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,

[lobshots.files.wordpress.com image 637x371]



Hehehe. Fantastic simulpost.
 
2012-10-27 06:34:06 PM
Wow it took almost 75 posts before the Black Panthers showed up? Our pathetic trolls are slacking.
 
2012-10-27 06:34:25 PM

a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.

"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.


Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.
 
2012-10-27 06:35:17 PM

DeltaPunch: That'll teach 'em.


From what I keep hearing it's because I'm a poor, misguided woman who doesn't understand her place in the scheme of things... so... that's, what? Feminism?
 
2012-10-27 06:35:21 PM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[www.lawatchdog.com image 550x350]


1. Those two idiots are part of something called the "New black panther party", not the one you're thinking of. The only reason you know about them is because Fox News made their group famous - I doubt they have 100 members nationwide.

2. They didn't stop anyone from voting, no one filed complaints and from what I read were asked to leave by the authorities and moved right along.
 
2012-10-27 06:35:48 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

At least Mitt tries.
 
2012-10-27 06:35:54 PM

you are a puppet: beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[www.lawatchdog.com image 550x350]

The black panther party claims to be the party of not racists? I don't follow.


Those aren't the Black Panthers. They are the New Black Panther party, a group the actual Black Panthers have dismissed as a bunch of AWing clowns.

They have about as much influence among minority leadership groups as your fantasy football team has on the NFL.
 
2012-10-27 06:37:09 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Wow it took almost 75 posts before the Black Panthers showed up? Our pathetic trolls are slacking.


I think our trolls spend Saturday days drinking and surfing Stormfront to gather material. I only ever see them late Saturday nights and by then they're mostly incoherent.
 
2012-10-27 06:39:40 PM
Yes. Yes it is.

We're all racist in some way or another. People who claim they don't see color are liars, we all see it and it affects us in some way. Most of us actively work to overcome these parts of ourselves and it makes us ashamed to have these thoughts. Others, not so much. So I have this idea that all these distractions about Obama are just reasons that racists have to make it OK to hate him. They can't say he's a bad president because he's black, but it's perfectly OK for them to hate him because he's a socialist. So they have concocted all these lies about who he is and what he's done so they feel justified in hating him so they don't have to admit they just don't like the black guy in the White House.
 
2012-10-27 06:41:00 PM

Gyrfalcon: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Wow it took almost 75 posts before the Black Panthers showed up? Our pathetic trolls are slacking.

I think our trolls spend Saturday days drinking and surfing Stormfront to gather material. I only ever see them late Saturday nights and by then they're mostly incoherent.


...they're coherent the rest of the time?
 
2012-10-27 06:42:30 PM

JerkStore: Yes. Yes it is.

We're all racist in some way or another. People who claim they don't see color are liars, we all see it and it affects us in some way. Most of us actively work to overcome these parts of ourselves and it makes us ashamed to have these thoughts. Others, not so much. So I have this idea that all these distractions about Obama are just reasons that racists have to make it OK to hate him. They can't say he's a bad president because he's black, but it's perfectly OK for them to hate him because he's a socialist. So they have concocted all these lies about who he is and what he's done so they feel justified in hating him so they don't have to admit they just don't like the black guy in the White House.


That became apparent the day after the 2008 election, when republicans suddenly became concerned over the economy at the same time.
 
2012-10-27 06:43:13 PM
I'm impressed, two dolts managed to threadjack and deflect this thread within.. what, maybe 10 posts
 
2012-10-27 06:43:24 PM
If black people are voting for president Obama because he's black, why has every democratic candidate for president since Franklin Roosevelt received the majority (70%+) of the black vote?

I know you're not real big on introspection republicans, but just this once you might want to look at your policies, your candidates, your platforms, your major contributors and SuperPacs, your ideas, your legislative voting records, your legislative agenda, your entire party - hell just look in the farking mirror - and think really really REALLY hard about why most black people don't and won't vote for you.

Go ahead, let us know when you've figured it out. We'll wait.
 
2012-10-27 06:44:04 PM
The Republicans are divided on this issue. Here's an interesting artcle from the New Yorker describing the G.O.P. split over whether to emphasize misogyny or racism

FTA: In one camp is the Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who says that his view that God is sometimes O.K. with rape is "gaining real traction with a key demographic: men who don't like women very much."


"I can't tell you how many misogynists have come up to me at my rallies and said, 'Thank you for saying what you said,' " he told reporters today. "I think they're like, finally, someone's taking a more nuanced position on rape."

(. . .)

Hoping to heal a possible rift with so little time left until Election Day, the R.N.C. chairman Reince Priebus said today that there is room for both views in today's Republican Party: "Our 'big tent' message to voters should be this: come for the misogyny, stay for the racism."
 
2012-10-27 06:44:15 PM

DemonEater: Wow, seriously? That really sucks.
Just remember you have a sort of dysfunctional, incestuous, mentally ill second family here on Fark. You can even come over for Thanksgiving, as long as you bring beer and don't mind that tenpoundsofmoron is a distant cousin who comes and spreads feces on the bathroom wall.

/Seriously though, find yourself a group of liberals/secularist friends and you'll have a new family pretty damn quick.


Yeah, I'm done with them. It wasn't just this election cycle; I was told my ex putting me in the hospital was my fault for not obeying his ridiculous demands of control. It took the DA actively barring them from the courthouse when the ex was put on trial for them to finally get it... kind of...

Thanks, that's why I'm here on a Saturday :) I's gots a group of other misfits coming over for Thanksgiving turkey, too!
/no poop on the walls allowed though
 
2012-10-27 06:44:49 PM

coco ebert: Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.


Thank you. It's very similar to "those people", and I have a higher opinion of you.
 
2012-10-27 06:44:54 PM
I think the best shirt i have seen said
"Don't ReNIG in 2012"
 
2012-10-27 06:45:03 PM
CapeFearCadaver




Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry



Where is my violin?
 
2012-10-27 06:45:13 PM

Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.


I'd Tecumseh all over that, Sher man.
 
2012-10-27 06:45:51 PM

Buffalo77: CapeFearCadaver

Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


Where is my violin?


Here, I found it in my vagina... it's a bit sticky, though. Sorry.
 
2012-10-27 06:47:33 PM
This just in. White and black people don't like each other. News at eleven.

whitegirlbleedalot.com
 
2012-10-27 06:47:48 PM
Not all republicans are racist and not all racist are republicans but the majority of racist are republicans.
 
2012-10-27 06:48:43 PM

OneBrightMonkey: Go ahead and be racist all you want - free country.

However, when your newly minted GOP legislatures in states all over the country immediately set out to pass laws specifically targeting blacks and latinos in order to cut them from the rolls, prevent them from voting on days when black churches usually vote and make people present a form of ID that 25% of that specific group doesn't have, then I get pissed....and if people call you racist you had it coming.

I hope Barack can get this thing over the finish line, principally because I think he's been an effective president despite enormous challenges, but also because the GOP needs to be punished for the way they have behaved these last four years.

Historically abusing the fillibuster (from 1 on average a year to 70+ now), negotiating in bad faith and generally making the government an ineffective, national embarrassment.


Don't forget how they ruined our credit rating!
 
2012-10-27 06:48:58 PM

SavageWombat: OK, let's define a term here.

RACISM is a belief system that one race people) are inherently superior to other races.


Nope. Racism is making judgements based on race. That's the long, short, and very broad of it.

Voting FOR a candidate because he's "one of your people" is not racist, any more than voting for Romney because you're both rich or from Massachusetts.

It most certnaily IS, but the presumption that Colin Powell is doing so is, itself, racist (and insulting and stupid.) There are racists voting for Obama because he's black, there are a lot more racists voting AGAINST Obama because he's black. Like most falsely equivocated things it is a question of scale.

A more accurate term for most people's behavior - on both sides - would be "PREJUDICED".

And there's that implied BSABSVR, how *did* I know it was coming? I must be one of those stinking psykers.
 
2012-10-27 06:50:02 PM

CapeFearCadaver: DeltaPunch: That'll teach 'em.

From what I keep hearing it's because I'm a poor, misguided woman who doesn't understand her place in the scheme of things... so... that's, what? Feminism?


Only when you point it out to them. In fact, what are you doing online anyhow? Isn't there some kitchen you should be in? ;)
 
2012-10-27 06:50:44 PM

a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.

Thank you. It's very similar to "those people", and I have a higher opinion of you.


I don't think that's true. African-Americans use that amongst one another, and it's not viewed as a pejorative. I tend to pick up dialects and usages easily so when I hear people use phrases I inadvertently start using them (I'm trying to avoid the "hey, I have African-American friends" line.) :) But indeed, I shouldn't be using phrases like that.
 
2012-10-27 06:50:52 PM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[newblackpanthers]


The fact that FOX spent much of election day 2008 showing those scary black mens over and over, blowing their racist dog whistle as loudly as they could in a last minute desperate attempt to prevent Obama from winning, is just more proof that the GOP have not abandoned their shameful racist political tactics they've used for generations, so thanks for the reminder in case there was anyone left who hadn't actually made that connection yet.
 
2012-10-27 06:51:45 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Yeah, I'm done with them. It wasn't just this election cycle; I was told my ex putting me in the hospital was my fault for not obeying his ridiculous demands of control. It took the DA actively barring them from the courthouse when the ex was put on trial for them to finally get it... kind of...


Holy shiat, that's... excessive. Sorry you had to go through that. What the fark were they doing that made the DA kick their asses out?
Although I'd sort of liked to have seen it, I love when people like that get their asses handed to them, but that's your family, so I'd feel a little bad about enjoying it.

CapeFearCadaver: Buffalo77:
Where is my violin?

Here, I found it in my vagina... it's a bit sticky, though. Sorry.


I have the weirdest boner right now
 
2012-10-27 06:52:15 PM
Is there a "most honest Republican award" I mean nobody has probably won it for 34 years but lets dust it off!
 
2012-10-27 06:52:24 PM

coco ebert: a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.

"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.

Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.


Man, you can say "black folks." I say "white folks." I can't speak for EVERY black person, of course, but I doubt anyone would care.
 
2012-10-27 06:52:38 PM

rewind2846: If black people are voting for president Obama because he's black, why has every democratic candidate for president since Franklin Roosevelt received the majority (70%+) of the black vote?


Roosevelt had a cane and a top hat (pimp)
Truman ordered the destruction of two entire Japanese towns (gangsta)
Kennedy was a very handsome man (cream in their coffee)
LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, pissing off a lot of crackers (like a BOSS)
Carter's brother made his own beer (knows how to party)
Clinton was Clinton
 
2012-10-27 06:52:56 PM

DeltaPunch: CapeFearCadaver: DeltaPunch: That'll teach 'em.

From what I keep hearing it's because I'm a poor, misguided woman who doesn't understand her place in the scheme of things... so... that's, what? Feminism?

Only when you point it out to them. In fact, what are you doing online anyhow? Isn't there some kitchen you should be in? ;)


I'm getting drunk.

What? Is that wrong?
 
2012-10-27 06:53:42 PM

Vectron: This just in. White and black people don't like each other. News at eleven.

[whitegirlbleedalot.com image 192x313]


What DOES Hitler's cock taste like?
 
2012-10-27 06:53:59 PM

FlashHarry: [imageshack.us image 396x594]



lol

another model american who wasn't told the south lost the war.
 
2012-10-27 06:55:27 PM
 
2012-10-27 06:55:27 PM
In other news, they are reporting sky is blue, sun is hot and this all was painfully obvious for a long time.
 
2012-10-27 06:55:50 PM
As Election Day 2012 nears, Obama appears unlikely to come anywhere near to attracting the percentage of overall white voters he did four years ago......How bad are Obama's prospects with white voters? A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll put Obama's support among white voters at 38 percent, dangerous territory for a president seeking re-election.



I think this is all a ploy to get more white people to vote for Obama.
The biggest fear white people have is being called a racist. It wrecks careers and moves one outside respectable society.
White people are pussies that are easily manipulated.
 
2012-10-27 06:56:22 PM

Funk Brothers: Powell only endorsed Obama cause he's just him. It's going to bite back when Romney wins.



ah-oh!

the only way, electorally, Rmoney can win is if he wins most of the swing states. you and i know that will not happen. if Obama wins only a few of them, he'll win.

i suggest you purchase some Preparation H now so as to avoid the rush on november 7.
 
2012-10-27 06:56:49 PM
Then why is it still your party?
 
2012-10-27 06:57:08 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Gyrfalcon: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Wow it took almost 75 posts before the Black Panthers showed up? Our pathetic trolls are slacking.

I think our trolls spend Saturday days drinking and surfing Stormfront to gather material. I only ever see them late Saturday nights and by then they're mostly incoherent.

...they're coherent the rest of the time?


Ah, it's all relative.
 
2012-10-27 06:57:33 PM

GBmanNC: GBmanNC: oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,

Pfft, yeah right. And Grizzly Adams had a beard!

you are a puppet: oryx: The retired colonel also said that "to say that Colin Powell would endorse President Obama because of his skin color is like saying Mother Theresa worked for profit."

Actually she did work for profit,

[lobshots.files.wordpress.com image 637x371]


Hehehe. Fantastic simulpost.


www.areyouscreening.com

It was is the greatest simulpost I've ever seen.
 
2012-10-27 06:58:51 PM

coco ebert: But indeed, I shouldn't be using phrases like that.


I'm a fifty-something white male raised in west Texas, and I think that you examining that whistle just made me think that there are people who will change the world because they are willing to examine how they think about the world. Kudos to you.
 
2012-10-27 06:58:52 PM

Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.



they put the coont back into coontry.
 
2012-10-27 06:59:03 PM

indylaw: Vectron: This just in. White and black people don't like each other. News at eleven.

[whitegirlbleedalot.com image 192x313]

What DOES Hitler's cock taste like?


Screw you. What did I say? Are you telling me white and black people like each other?
 
2012-10-27 07:01:45 PM

Vectron: indylaw: Vectron: This just in. White and black people don't like each other. News at eleven.

[whitegirlbleedalot.com image 192x313]

What DOES Hitler's cock taste like?

Screw you. What did I say? Are you telling me white and black people like each other?


The idiotic part of what you're doing is acting like whites and blacks are monolithic blocks that all have the same feelings.
 
2012-10-27 07:02:36 PM
Sympathizes.

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-10-27 07:02:38 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thanks, Captain Obvious

/sorry... Colonel. Colonel Obvious


is there a General Obvious or is it General Oblivious?
 
2012-10-27 07:03:48 PM
By defining racism as about specific actions, it helps deflect any serious investigation into both the history of contemporary culture of American structural racism as part of our political and socioeconomic institutions. It isn't really about personal actions--those are outgrowths of the enabling structure underneath--affecting Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Amerindians and others too.
 
2012-10-27 07:03:58 PM
If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?
 
2012-10-27 07:04:10 PM

spelletrader: Then why is it still your party?


Perhaps there were other reasons why he is a Republican and perhaps he is trying to change it from the inside. It isn't like Republicans listen and learn from anyone else... perhaps they will listen and learn from one of their own?

I doubt it, but the only people who can purge the racist elements from the Republican party are Republicans. I just think the vast majority are too pussy to try. This guy, so far, is the exception.
 
2012-10-27 07:05:19 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


I don't know why I didn't assume you were a troll at first, but good to know.
 
2012-10-27 07:05:38 PM

JerkStore: Yes. Yes it is.

We're all racist in some way or another. People who claim they don't see color are liars, we all see it and it affects us in some way. Most of us actively work to overcome these parts of ourselves and it makes us ashamed to have these thoughts. Others, not so much. So I have this idea that all these distractions about Obama are just reasons that racists have to make it OK to hate him. They can't say he's a bad president because he's black, but it's perfectly OK for them to hate him because he's a socialist. So they have concocted all these lies about who he is and what he's done so they feel justified in hating him so they don't have to admit they just don't like the black guy in the White House.


I don't think so, Sparky. It's okay to see color. I can look at Michael Jordan and acknowledge he's black, and look at myself and acknowledge I'm white. That's not racist. There's no racism in seeing and understanding that there are different colors and cultures on this planet. What IS racist is thinking that your race is superior to another. I don't think any racial group is superior to another. There's winners and losers in every race, creed, color, and ethnicity. Look at the white supremacists who claim that they're the "master race." Ever see some of these people? Master race my left ass cheek. I'd love to tell them, "If you're the best your God can do, your God is a lazy and stupid God."

I can honestly look at myself in the mirror and say that I don't hate any man because of the color of his skin, and I don't think because I'm a different race than that man, I'm better. Saying "well, everyone is a little bit racist" is trying to rationalize your own issues by projecting them on other people, and that's an intellectually dishonest cop-out.
 
2012-10-27 07:05:46 PM

a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: But indeed, I shouldn't be using phrases like that.

I'm a fifty-something white male raised in west Texas, and I think that you examining that whistle just made me think that there are people who will change the world because they are willing to examine how they think about the world. Kudos to you.


Cool. :) Thanks for the sentiment. Same goes for you, I think.
 
2012-10-27 07:05:55 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


Your premise is incorrect.
 
2012-10-27 07:06:00 PM

LasersHurt: Vectron: indylaw: Vectron: This just in. White and black people don't like each other. News at eleven.

[whitegirlbleedalot.com image 192x313]

What DOES Hitler's cock taste like?

Screw you. What did I say? Are you telling me white and black people like each other?

The idiotic part of what you're doing is acting like whites and blacks are monolithic blocks that all have the same feelings.



Black people certainly don't vote as a monolithic block.
 
2012-10-27 07:06:42 PM

LasersHurt: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

I don't know why I didn't assume you were a troll at first, but good to know.


Election year... account is a month old.
 
2012-10-27 07:06:45 PM

Smelly McUgly: coco ebert: a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.

"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.

Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.

Man, you can say "black folks." I say "white folks." I can't speak for EVERY black person, of course, but I doubt anyone would care.


Come to think of it, I use the term"white folk", but I'm not sure why. One of those strange colloquialisms I guess.
 
2012-10-27 07:07:39 PM
CFC - I'm going through the same thing. EIP if you ever wanna talk it out.
 
2012-10-27 07:07:55 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


I've walked through several black neighborhoods safely. Maybe you're just a coward.
 
2012-10-27 07:08:57 PM

coco ebert: Smelly McUgly: coco ebert: a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.

"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.

Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.

Man, you can say "black folks." I say "white folks." I can't speak for EVERY black person, of course, but I doubt anyone would care.

Come to think of it, I use the term"white folk", but I'm not sure why. One of those strange colloquialisms I guess.


Yeah, I think it's more of a southern thing than anything. I picked it up when I lived in Texas for awhile.

I certainly thought you sounded more like you were from the South than anything. I don't know anyone who would be offended by that term.
 
2012-10-27 07:09:06 PM

TheBigJerk:

And there's that implied BSABSVR, how *did* I know it was coming? I must be one of those stinking psykers.


For your information, I'm one of those flaming liberals.
 
2012-10-27 07:10:06 PM

Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.



Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.
 
2012-10-27 07:11:00 PM

GAT_00: But come on, bring up Robert Byrd. You know you want to.


i want them to bring it up too.

So I put them on ignore where they belong.
 
2012-10-27 07:11:16 PM

Granny_Panties: FACT: Every openly racist person I know votes Republican.

 
2012-10-27 07:11:23 PM

indylaw: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

I've walked through several black neighborhoods safely. Maybe you're just a coward.


Was that for you boy scout merit badge?
 
2012-10-27 07:11:31 PM

coco ebert: Cool. :) Thanks for the sentiment. Same goes for you, I think


LOL I enjoy plenty of prejudices. but they mostly involve close mindedness. You seem to be immune. That was a genuine compliment.

Back on topic, all but me in my shop are Rep voters. They haven't a clue how Romney will fix things, but he's not "the black guy".
 
2012-10-27 07:11:46 PM

Vectron: I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.


THAT'S what you're bringing? "N****r-lover"? Go fark yourself with a pineapple, you racist turd.
 
2012-10-27 07:12:01 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


They can... Is it safe to assume that you're speaking out of an ignorant belief designed to cause fear of black people, or do you regularly get beat up walking through predominantly black neighborhoods?

I've walked through all kinds of neighborhoods... and oddly the only people who have assaulted me were white people. Once a couple of black guys actually saw me being assaulted and kicked the shiat out of the white guy who attacked me... then they gave me a beer and smoked a joint with me! So... from my own personal experiences, I'd say you're speaking from ignorance and fear, not experience.
 
2012-10-27 07:13:46 PM

Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Only if you assume that a "white" neighborhood is inherently safe and a "black" neighborhood is inherently unsafe--for anyone of the other race. There are plenty of white areas where ANY outsider--of any race--would be instantly set upon and possibly killed; think of "Deliverance" for instance (not a black person in sight). And there are black areas where no black person would dare set foot.

Just another stereotype run amok.
 
2012-10-27 07:13:47 PM

Vectron: Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.


Bye.
 
2012-10-27 07:14:05 PM

JohnnyC: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

They can... Is it safe to assume that you're speaking out of an ignorant belief designed to cause fear of black people, or do you regularly get beat up walking through predominantly black neighborhoods?

I've walked through all kinds of neighborhoods... and oddly the only people who have assaulted me were white people. Once a couple of black guys actually saw me being assaulted and kicked the shiat out of the white guy who attacked me... then they gave me a beer and smoked a joint with me! So... from my own personal experiences, I'd say you're speaking from ignorance and fear, not experience.


Was it... malt liquor?

/window seat please.
 
2012-10-27 07:14:23 PM

czetie: Come on, son. This is Fark. We expect a higher grade of trolling around here, especially if you ever want to graduate from the weekend shift.


Eh, it's election season, home stretch. This is like the world series of Trolling in progress.

They're bringing trolls up from the minor leagues to fill it out, we've got third and fourth-stringers here trying to knock one out of the park and make a name for himself before he strikes out and gets plonked too many times.
 
2012-10-27 07:15:57 PM

Gotfire: panti


My pantry is full of rices?
 
2012-10-27 07:15:57 PM

Silverstaff: czetie: Come on, son. This is Fark. We expect a higher grade of trolling around here, especially if you ever want to graduate from the weekend shift.

Eh, it's election season, home stretch. This is like the world series of Trolling in progress.

They're bringing trolls up from the minor leagues to fill it out, we've got third and fourth-stringers here trying to knock one out of the park and make a name for himself before he strikes out and gets plonked too many times.


Too bad trolling is so 2008, and isn't really cool or impressive anymore.
 
2012-10-27 07:16:43 PM

Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.


There are whole states that I won't even put up with the trouble of going into as a black person, so that part of your premise is incorrect. I know quite a few white folks that have walked through primarily black neighborhoods and lived (without being harassed, even!), so that other part of your premise is also wrong, but that's not the point, I guess.

The point is that you're bored on a Saturday afternoon, I guess.
 
2012-10-27 07:18:03 PM
somebody at work was flabbergasted when i said i thought a picture was in asia somewhere because of the decor and an asian was in the photograph. she said i shouldn't say 'asian' when describing a person. wtf ever.
 
2012-10-27 07:18:38 PM

whidbey: Silverstaff: czetie: Come on, son. This is Fark. We expect a higher grade of trolling around here, especially if you ever want to graduate from the weekend shift.

Eh, it's election season, home stretch. This is like the world series of Trolling in progress.

They're bringing trolls up from the minor leagues to fill it out, we've got third and fourth-stringers here trying to knock one out of the park and make a name for himself before he strikes out and gets plonked too many times.

Too bad trolling is so 2008, and isn't really cool or impressive anymore.


don't go, W!
 
2012-10-27 07:18:52 PM

Smeggy Smurf: So they're now going to support a guy who was only elected because of skin color. Racist much?


cry harder.
 
2012-10-27 07:19:13 PM
John Sununu has always been a creep.
 
2012-10-27 07:19:35 PM

Smelly McUgly: Yeah, I think it's more of a southern thing than anything. I picked it up when I lived in Texas for awhile.


I was raised in Texas. I don't refer to people as white folks and black folks. I refer to them as Bill or Steve or Lena or Georgia. If I refer to a group of people, they are people.
 
2012-10-27 07:19:55 PM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:


Holy shiat! Black people! Get in the car and lock the doors! Hurry!

Hold me, I'm so scared.
 
2012-10-27 07:20:10 PM
I also think it's weird that Republicans are shocked that most black people vote for the Democratic Party. They act like Barry Goldwater was the one threatening US senators to get the Civil Rights Act passed rather than LBJ.

I can't think of an argument for voting for a party that is pretty openly contemptuous of me because of my skin color - look at the party's own spokespeople like Limbaugh, Santorum, pretty much every Republican from the South, etc.
 
2012-10-27 07:20:15 PM

a_bilge_monkey: I refer to them as Bill or Steve or Lena or Georgia


ANYTHING BUT SUE!
 
2012-10-27 07:20:33 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-27 07:22:42 PM

indylaw: Vectron: I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

THAT'S what you're bringing? "N****r-lover"? Go fark yourself with a pineapple, you racist turd.



You sound like scumbag, cockroach lawyer, putting words in someone's mouth. Go chase an ambulance. Or better yet do some pro bono work for a whore and get your blowjob.
 
2012-10-27 07:23:43 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 377x270]


Did no one notice that he didn't start the thread out like this? That he kinda did a 180 right in the middle there?
 
2012-10-27 07:25:39 PM

Smelly McUgly: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

There are whole states that I won't even put up with the trouble of going into as a black person, so that part of your premise is incorrect. I know quite a few white folks that have walked through primarily black neighborhoods and lived (without being harassed, even!), so that other part of your premise is also wrong, but that's not the point, I guess.

The point is that you're bored on a Saturday afternoon, I guess.


true!

But I would imagine you would be perfectly safe in those states just I might survive a walk though Oakland.
 
2012-10-27 07:26:08 PM

Vectron: I think this is all a ploy to get more white people to vote for Obama.
The biggest fear white people have is being called a racist. It wrecks careers and moves one outside respectable society.
White people are pussies that are easily manipulated.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If racists are afraid of being called racists - why wouldn't they just vote for the misogynistic gay-hating white guy but then CLAIM to have voted for Obama? No one ever sees their ballot.
 
2012-10-27 07:28:36 PM

whidbey: a_bilge_monkey: I refer to them as Bill or Steve or Lena or Georgia

ANYTHING BUT SUE!


Unless it's a boy.
 
2012-10-27 07:28:46 PM

Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.


Came for this one. Thanks!
 
2012-10-27 07:29:49 PM

buster_v: Vectron: I think this is all a ploy to get more white people to vote for Obama.
The biggest fear white people have is being called a racist. It wrecks careers and moves one outside respectable society.
White people are pussies that are easily manipulated.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If racists are afraid of being called racists - why wouldn't they just vote for the misogynistic gay-hating white guy but then CLAIM to have voted for Obama? No one ever sees their ballot.



I don't think it is the dumbest thing you have ever heard. Really!
It is speculation. But you're right. They could just get a I VOTED FOR OBAMA sticker to wear after they voted for Romney.
 
2012-10-27 07:30:15 PM

Vectron: indylaw: Vectron: I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

THAT'S what you're bringing? "N****r-lover"? Go fark yourself with a pineapple, you racist turd.


You sound like scumbag, cockroach lawyer, putting words in someone's mouth. Go chase an ambulance. Or better yet do some pro bono work for a whore and get your blowjob.


Bwahahahaha. O cupcake. If you ever end up in jail played Chinese fingercuffs, give me a call.
 
2012-10-27 07:30:15 PM

buster_v: Vectron: I think this is all a ploy to get more white people to vote for Obama.
The biggest fear white people have is being called a racist. It wrecks careers and moves one outside respectable society.
White people are pussies that are easily manipulated.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If racists are afraid of being called racists - why wouldn't they just vote for the misogynistic gay-hating white guy but then CLAIM to have voted for Obama? No one ever sees their ballot.


Why can't I vote this Smartest and Funniest?
 
2012-10-27 07:30:18 PM

CreamFilling: So is the other one.


So vote Republican.
 
2012-10-27 07:31:18 PM
Please. We know the Republican party is full of nubianr lovers. Just look at their advertising.
 
2012-10-27 07:31:42 PM

intelligent comment below: Vectron: Or better yet do some pro bono work for a whore and get your blowjob.


That's strange since the only way you get a girlfriend is to hang out with strippers and give them drugs and money


I object, your honor. That is just speculation from the counsel!
 
2012-10-27 07:32:29 PM
There are many black folks that are intelligent. I'm a big fan of Rev Manning, because he speaks the truth, and has the balls to stand up to Sharpton, Jackson, and Liberal race baiters

Link
 
2012-10-27 07:33:16 PM
www.indecisionforever.com

Colonel, Please. We know the Republican party is full of nubianr lovers. Just look at their advertising.
 
2012-10-27 07:35:11 PM

DeltaPunch: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]

I love conservative humor. It's not nuanced, intelligent, or even remotely funny. It's simply underlining their frustration.

I imagine the person making this was thinking something like "Grrrrrr, I keep getting schooled in these racial arguments, I'll just HIGHLIGHT THE SOURCE OF MY FRUSTRATION ON A WILLY WONKA MEME. That'll teach 'em."


I don't get it. Voting (or not voting) for someone because of their race is bigoted. This controversial for you?
 
2012-10-27 07:38:16 PM

Gyrfalcon: whidbey: a_bilge_monkey: I refer to them as Bill or Steve or Lena or Georgia

ANYTHING BUT SUE!

Unless it's a boy.


MY NAME IS SUE
HOW DO YOU DO
NOW YOU'RE GONNA DIE!
 
2012-10-27 07:38:29 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: [www.indecisionforever.com image 400x496]

Colonel, Please. We know the Republican party is full of nubianr lovers. Just look at their advertising.


Well they do claim to sympathize with the taxpayer, so there's that...
 
2012-10-27 07:39:45 PM

hbk72777: There are many black folks that are intelligent. I'm a big fan of Rev Manning, because he speaks the truth, and has the balls to stand up to Sharpton, Jackson, and Liberal race baiters

Link


"Ahem and boom shakalacka!"

Did he say that?

I would vote for him.
 
2012-10-27 07:40:11 PM

phantomht: Smeggy Smurf: So they're now going to support a guy who was only elected because of skin color. Racist much?

cry harder.


More like mock and abuse the Democrats for being the party of racism since forever
 
2012-10-27 07:40:57 PM

Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.


4/10

too obvious

a.abcnews.com
 
2012-10-27 07:42:45 PM

Vectron: As Election Day 2012 nears, Obama appears unlikely to come anywhere near to attracting the percentage of overall white voters he did four years ago......How bad are Obama's prospects with white voters? A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll put Obama's support among white voters at 38 percent, dangerous territory for a president seeking re-election.


And it's almost entirely a Southern problem. Obama is actually leading among whites in the Midwest, and is only a couple of points behind Romney among whites in the West and Northeast. It's in the eternally ignorant and backwards South that he has a huge deficit.

www.motherjones.com
 
2012-10-27 07:43:14 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


Yep, the 90% plus White Republican party isn't the only party with racism problems.

I just love this quote by the Republican subject of the article I just have to post it here:

...the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

The reason a considerable portion of Republicans want Obama defeated:

1. content of his character
2. competence as commander-in-chief
3. competence as president
4. he's a Nibong
 
2012-10-27 07:44:52 PM

valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]



Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.
 
2012-10-27 07:44:56 PM
If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal. Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.
 
2012-10-27 07:45:46 PM

soia: I think the best shirt i have seen said
"Don't ReNIG in 2012"


I used to work with a guy that had that bumper sticker. Swore up and down there was nothing racist about it. When I asked how it wasn't racist to not only misspell the word "renege" with the first part of a racial slur, but to capitalize only the letters of which said racial slur consists of, he accused me of projecting my own racism onto him. When I asked him to explain how voting for Obama has anything to do with "failing to carry out a promise or commitment," he asked what made me think that bumper sticker had anything to do with Obama. When I responded by asking him what the hell else it could possibly be about, he told me to figure it out myself.

/I don't miss that racist asshole
//I do miss schooling his ass and watching other people school his ass
///So I guess I do kinda miss him.
 
2012-10-27 07:46:00 PM

DeltaPunch: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]

I love conservative humor. It's not nuanced, intelligent, or even remotely funny. It's simply underlining their frustration.

I imagine the person making this was thinking something like "Grrrrrr, I keep getting schooled in these racial arguments, I'll just HIGHLIGHT THE SOURCE OF MY FRUSTRATION ON A WILLY WONKA MEME. That'll teach 'em."



It's the old "My party is full of racists who keep trying to take away the right to vote from black people and enact legislation that puts more of them in jail than white people and is just generally terrible for blacks, and as a result 97% of all black people are voting for the democratic candidate, who happens to be black, therefore black people are voting for the black guy and are 100% racist" argument.

/Republicans are stupid
//And getting stupider by the minute.
 
2012-10-27 07:47:01 PM
Oh Lawdy, there's three of 'em in the house now... I'm gonna go outside.
 
2012-10-27 07:49:24 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal. Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.



I hit the smart buttton for that.
This "racist" thing is just a club to hit Republicans with. Its a guilt trip.

/not a Republican. Would never vote for Mitt.
 
2012-10-27 07:50:37 PM

mrlewish: Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]

So blacks that have been voting for whites for decades (if they were allowed to vote at all) because of institutional, cultural, legal, and economic oppression are the racists?

As the song goes.

"Well if you told me you were drowning
I would not lend a hand
I've seen your face before, my friend
But I don't know if you know who I am?
Well I was there and I saw what you did
I saw it with my own two eyes
So you can wipe off that grin
Know where you've been
It's all been a pack of lies"


BA DAM BA DAMP BA DAMP BADAM DAMP DAMP

/sorry
//I just have to do that every time I hear it
 
2012-10-27 07:50:52 PM

Vectron: I hit the smart buttton for that.
This "racist" thing is just a club to hit Republicans with. Its a guilt trip.


Not sure if stupid, ignorant, or just racist yourself.
 
2012-10-27 07:51:13 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


as a white person who lived in west africa, I find this statement hilariously stupid

/and no, I didn't live in a gated community, nor did I have a guard, nor did I have a car.
 
2012-10-27 07:51:19 PM
I thought that said "panty" in the headline.
That would have been a far better story.
 
2012-10-27 07:51:34 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Oh Lawdy, there's three of 'em in the house now... I'm gonna go outside.



If you can't take the heat, get our of the kitchen.
 
2012-10-27 07:53:45 PM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I just found this on AP. So actually everybody is bad and nobody likes black people. An actual survey of the parties on racism

Link


Interesting. What I find to be ironic is that a majority of people thought that race relations would get better when a black president was elected. But what I think really happened is that older white people were already frustrated because of 9/11 and "dem muslums." People forget that some of the people who protested segregation are still around and voting. Once President Obama took office, the dog whistle was loud and clear and all of the dogs showed up. Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and so on. So you have a set of people who are completely amazed and shocked at the level of hatred for a man who is just trying to do his job. And you have another set of people who feel a true loss of control. Then you had Fox News telling them that it was perfectly fine to feel hatred toward this illegitimate president and that it's ok, it doesn't mean you're racist. The sad part is that people are working themselves up in a frenzy for absolutely NO GOOD REASON. Yet, they are making that inevitable hike to a civil or a race war. And not to mention that this all has to do with money and power. Somewhere out there is an old white man laughing at all of us.
 
2012-10-27 07:54:13 PM
So... Kenyan or Mexican... who to pick.. who to pick?
 
2012-10-27 07:55:27 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal. Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.


I know you're just trolling for hits, but black people don't like Condoleezza Rice either. It's because she's, you know, a Republican, and you mother farkers are pure evil.

Also, I have lived in red states before (unfortunately). Nope, Republicans are the Real Racists. Sorry bud.
 
2012-10-27 07:55:40 PM

Vectron: randomjsa:[words]


I hit the smart buttton for that.


I hit the funny button for this.
 
2012-10-27 07:56:14 PM

deadcrickets: So... Kenyan or Mexican... who to pick.. who to pick?


More like Secret Muslin or Magic Underwear
 
2012-10-27 07:56:42 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-27 07:58:31 PM

Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.


Premise 1: a black can walk through a white neighborhood [unmolested]. Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].

I offered a very simple refutation of Premise 1. And your obvious agitation shows you know it.
 
2012-10-27 07:59:20 PM

hbk72777: I'm a big fan of Rev Manning,


Eli or Peyton?
 
2012-10-27 08:00:15 PM
mrlewish:
coco ebert:


I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.
 
2012-10-27 08:00:29 PM

Hebalo: Was it... malt liquor?


It was a Bell's Oberon.
 
2012-10-27 08:03:32 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Thanks, Captain Obvious

/sorry... Colonel. Colonel Obvious


25.media.tumblr.com
Disappointed at a golden missed opportunity
 
2012-10-27 08:04:38 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal. Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.


instead of condemning Sununu, you are instead going with the "both sides are bad" nonsense. so you are supporting Romney because he is white?
 
2012-10-27 08:06:00 PM

SavageWombat: RACISM is a belief system that one race (usually white people)....


Good example, or maybe you haven't experienced Asian attitudes towards race.
 
2012-10-27 08:06:29 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Vectron: As Election Day 2012 nears, Obama appears unlikely to come anywhere near to attracting the percentage of overall white voters he did four years ago......How bad are Obama's prospects with white voters? A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll put Obama's support among white voters at 38 percent, dangerous territory for a president seeking re-election.

And it's almost entirely a Southern problem. Obama is actually leading among whites in the Midwest, and is only a couple of points behind Romney among whites in the West and Northeast. It's in the eternally ignorant and backwards South that he has a huge deficit.

[www.motherjones.com image 439x279]


cloudfront.qualtrics.com
 
2012-10-27 08:07:43 PM
One would think Sununu is politically experienced enough not to go anywhere in this direction. Proved me wrong. Deserves the Al Campanis Award.
 
2012-10-27 08:08:19 PM

Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.


So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"
 
2012-10-27 08:09:07 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


I used to bike through a "bad" black neighborhood on my way to work every day. My friends and family all said I was going to get mugged or killed. I never once had an issue, and got friendly waves by many of the people in the neighborhood when I biked by.

This white fear of black neighborhoods is quite frankly unfounded and horribly racist.
 
2012-10-27 08:09:13 PM

neenerist: SavageWombat: RACISM is a belief system that one race (usually white people)....

Good example, or maybe you haven't experienced Asian attitudes towards race.


Which is a big problem in today's Republican party.
 
2012-10-27 08:10:41 PM

Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"


No. I just think that the idea that nobody actually voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black is a joke.
 
2012-10-27 08:10:55 PM

Silly Jesus: I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.


Do you feel that's because they hate whitey or because Obama represents a very high and unexpected watermark in American race relations? (Not really expecting an honest answer.....)
 
2012-10-27 08:11:14 PM

MithrandirBooga: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

I used to bike through a "bad" black neighborhood on my way to work every day. My friends and family all said I was going to get mugged or killed. I never once had an issue, and got friendly waves by many of the people in the neighborhood when I biked by.

This white fear of black neighborhoods is quite frankly unfounded and horribly racist.


Ditto, but change "bike to work" with "stumble drunk". Poor+Segregated != crime ridden.
 
2012-10-27 08:11:43 PM
Barack Obama's mother was obviously passing. So tired of this nonsense. The President, like a growing number of Americans, is multi-racial. Get over it.

sprocketink.com
 
2012-10-27 08:12:56 PM

Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"

No. I just think that the idea that nobody actually voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black is a joke.


White people have PBS and Fox.
 
2012-10-27 08:13:13 PM

MithrandirBooga: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

I used to bike through a "bad" black neighborhood on my way to work every day. My friends and family all said I was going to get mugged or killed. I never once had an issue, and got friendly waves by many of the people in the neighborhood when I biked by.

This white fear of black neighborhoods is quite frankly unfounded and horribly racist.


It's all personal experience. In my college town there were projects that bordered the small downtown area that was full of bars. Once a week, at least, one of the drunk college kids would wander into the projects and get mugged / stabbed / robbed / raped and be in the police blotter and college newspaper. The police went so far as to specifically tell college students, via the school newspaper, to steer clear of the area.
 
2012-10-27 08:13:26 PM

valar_morghulis: Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.

Premise 1: a black can walk through a white neighborhood [unmolested]. Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].

I offered a very simple refutation of Premise 1. And your obvious agitation shows you know it.



I misunderstood. You are right. That is a good example and we are all aware of it. Seemingly a black youth in American today cannot attack a white man without getting shot. Shameful. And the media totally ignored this story.

The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.
 
2012-10-27 08:13:46 PM

valar_morghulis:
Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].


I know someone who couldn't walk through a black neighborhood unmolested:

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-27 08:14:06 PM

Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"

No. I just think that the idea that nobody actually voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black is a joke.


So, all those same people would have voted for Herman Cain, is that what you're saying?

Because as it turns out you're wrong.
 
2012-10-27 08:14:17 PM

Harry_Seldon: One would think Sununu is politically experienced enough not to go anywhere in this direction. Proved me wrong. Deserves the Al Campanis Award.


I would think than a person who misappropriated hundreds of thousands of dollars in government services would pay for them or go to prison for a very long time. I would also think that a man internationally famous for being a liar, and a thief would be openly ridiculed for the rest of his life unless he's accomplished some noteworthy feat of redemption.
 
2012-10-27 08:14:28 PM

Harry_Seldon: Barack Obama's mother was obviously passing. So tired of this nonsense. The President, like a growing number of Americans, is multi-racial. Get over it.

[sprocketink.com image 332x460]


Passing? ... for white? ... gas? ... laterally?
 
2012-10-27 08:14:51 PM

neenerist: Silly Jesus: I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

Do you feel that's because they hate whitey or because Obama represents a very high and unexpected watermark in American race relations? (Not really expecting an honest answer.....)


The latter, but it would still be racism if you're voting for, or against, someone specifically due to their skin color. I completely understand the rational in this case, but it is what it is.
 
2012-10-27 08:16:55 PM

Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.

Premise 1: a black can walk through a white neighborhood [unmolested]. Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].

I offered a very simple refutation of Premise 1. And your obvious agitation shows you know it.


I misunderstood. You are right. That is a good example and we are all aware of it. Seemingly a black youth in American today cannot attack a white man without getting shot. Shameful. And the media totally ignored this story.

The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.


9beers, is that you?
 
2012-10-27 08:18:02 PM

Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.


liar
 
2012-10-27 08:20:27 PM

Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.

Premise 1: a black can walk through a white neighborhood [unmolested]. Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].

I offered a very simple refutation of Premise 1. And your obvious agitation shows you know it.


I misunderstood. You are right. That is a good example and we are all aware of it. Seemingly a black youth in American today cannot attack a white man without getting shot. Shameful. And the media totally ignored this story.

The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.


Please, by all means, cite your sources for this unsettling claim.
 
2012-10-27 08:20:49 PM

Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"

No. I just think that the idea that nobody actually voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black is a joke.

So, all those same people would have voted for Herman Cain, is that what you're saying?

Because as it turns out you're wrong.


No, because he's an evil Republican.

Do you think that there weren't people who only voted because they had the opportunity to vote for a black man? Just as I'm sure there were whites who only voted because they didn't want a black man in office.

There are quite a few rappers who don't strike me as lifelong voters who started campaigns to bring out the vote for Obama etc. That's the sort of thing that I'm talking about that some people are denying for some unfathomable reason.
 
2012-10-27 08:21:44 PM

MithrandirBooga: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

I used to bike through a "bad" black neighborhood on my way to work every day. My friends and family all said I was going to get mugged or killed. I never once had an issue, and got friendly waves by many of the people in the neighborhood when I biked by.

This white fear of black neighborhoods is quite frankly unfounded and horribly racist.


I love how realtors attempt to rename traditionally black neighborhoods in order to attract white people.

In Brooklyn, they are currently attempting to eliminate Crown Heights (by hilariously extending the borders of Prospect Heights) and Bedford-Stuyvesant (Clinton Hill and Williamsburg are taking over the area).

the sections of these neighborhoods that were white (Orthodox Jews mostly) are being allowed to keep their identities somewhat, by being labeled as historic districts.
 
2012-10-27 08:22:23 PM

Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: valar_morghulis: Vectron: Smelly McUgly: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Your premise is incorrect.


Maybe, but not too far off. I'm playing contrary man tonight for laughs. People don't think enough about race. I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

4/10

too obvious

[a.abcnews.com image 640x360]


Isn't he cute! Why did that bad WHITE man kill him? I wish the racist media would have covered that story. I heard on one of the news channels a recording of the 911 call that made it obvious the WHITE man killed him because he was black.

Premise 1: a black can walk through a white neighborhood [unmolested]. Premise 2: a white man cannot walk through a black neighborhood [unmolested].

I offered a very simple refutation of Premise 1. And your obvious agitation shows you know it.


I misunderstood. You are right. That is a good example and we are all aware of it. Seemingly a black youth in American today cannot attack a white man without getting shot. Shameful. And the media totally ignored this story.

The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.


Go back and sit at the little table
Adults are talking
 
2012-10-27 08:23:04 PM

G.I.R.B.: Go back and sit at the little table
Adults are talking


Fark, make him eat outside. Preferably in the middle of the street.
 
2012-10-27 08:26:18 PM

Harry_Seldon: One would think Sununu is politically experienced enough not to go anywhere in this direction. Proved me wrong. Deserves the Al Campanis Award.


It's a closer race than 2008, but Romney is losing. When you're losing, you start tossing out anything that might get some traction. If you have no morals to begin with, and consider winning at any costs to be the only objective, that is.
 
2012-10-27 08:26:30 PM
whitegirlbleedalot.com


"The first and only book to document the recent epidemic of black mob violence: Hundreds of examples in more than 75 cities. All since 2010."


So what does this mean? Are these stories of racial attacks statisically meaningful? They may not be. As Pastor Manning said in the above linked video, White people are afraid of a meaningful dialogue on race. We tip toe around black people. The media especially. The media ignores terrible, brutal crimes based on race. If the perps were not black they would be national news. They are afraid of feeding black stereotypes.
What is interesting is that in the 1950's Time magazine had an editorial on the media underreporting black crime. So nothing has changed.
 
2012-10-27 08:26:31 PM

herrDrFarkenstein: Harry_Seldon: Barack Obama's mother was obviously passing. So tired of this nonsense. The President, like a growing number of Americans, is multi-racial. Get over it.

[sprocketink.com image 332x460]

Passing? ... for white? ... gas? ... laterally?


White. It was sarcasm. I just wish people would quit saying the President is black. He is not. He is multi-racial, which might actually be a worse sin in the bigot's eye.
 
2012-10-27 08:28:03 PM

whidbey: G.I.R.B.: Go back and sit at the little table
Adults are talking

Fark, make him eat outside. Preferably in the middle of the street.


be careful where you put him. he might get violated by a black person.

he does protest a bit too much about that, no?
 
2012-10-27 08:31:54 PM

Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

So, the fact that some people consider the first election of a non-white person to be worthy of celebration, that to your perception is Racism?

Are you by any chance one of those guys who says things like "Why is having a Black Entertainment Television channel okay, but not a White one?"

No. I just think that the idea that nobody actually voted for Obama BECAUSE he's black is a joke.

So, all those same people would have voted for Herman Cain, is that what you're saying?

Because as it turns out you're wrong.

No, because he's an evil Republican.


So, it's not about race. What are you even arguing at this point?

Do you think that there weren't people who only voted because they had the opportunity to vote for a black man? Just as I'm sure there were whites who only voted because they didn't want a black man in office.

I accept your suggestion that some people were more motivated to vote in 2008 because that it represented a new achievement in racial equality. I reject your contention that minorities wanting to promote equality between races and other people wanting to preserve or reestablish white privilege are both forms of Racism.

There are quite a few rappers who don't strike me as lifelong voters who started campaigns to bring out the vote for Obama etc. .

Like who? And please be specific on how you feel qualified to judge their political motivations.
 
2012-10-27 08:33:13 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Sununu was full of racists.

Burritos, pork rinds, elands, racists. Whatever.
 
2012-10-27 08:35:47 PM
They're not racist. They're just racists. Can't you people see the difference?
 
2012-10-27 08:35:53 PM

Vectron: [whitegirlbleedalot.com image 200x300]


Account created: 2012-09-28 17:19:06

Go back to Stormfront, idiot.
 
2012-10-27 08:35:58 PM

whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar


October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK
 
2012-10-27 08:38:38 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Vectron: [whitegirlbleedalot.com image 200x300]

Account created: 2012-09-28 17:19:06

Go back to Stormfront, idiot.


Facts are raciss.

Enjoy your nap.

www.ostrichheadinsand.com
 
2012-10-27 08:39:02 PM

CreamFilling: cameroncrazy1984: CreamFilling: So is the other one.

Tea Party?

Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article. But if you believe that racism is limited to one party you're deluding yourself.


A paper cut might as well be a bullet wound if you're already bleeding. If a Toyota Camry and a Ferrari are both cars, shouldn't they cost the same? Eating a spoonful of ice cream is just as unhealthy as eating 5 gallons of ice cream. All things are exactly the equal.
 
2012-10-27 08:39:38 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: The reason a considerable portion of Republicans want Obama defeated:

1. content of his character
2. competence as commander-in-chief
3. competence as president
4. he's a Nibong


The only thing wrong with Obama's character is that Republicans think he's uppity. I'd add that total to #4.
 
2012-10-27 08:40:50 PM

Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK


If I can read the story, it isn't "censored."

Liar.
 
2012-10-27 08:42:15 PM

Silly Jesus: I completely understand the rational in this case, but it is what it is.


The post to which I responded was about pictures and haircuts, which you chose to paint as racist without even knowing if those people voted. Ooops.
 
2012-10-27 08:43:11 PM
Instatroll = *plonked*
 
2012-10-27 08:43:24 PM

Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.


blog.demonfactory.com

I can assure you that these panties accept all races. These are real Southern gals. You're only a Soco and Coke away from The Real South.
 
2012-10-27 08:43:27 PM

Vectron: A Dark Evil Omen: Vectron: [whitegirlbleedalot.com image 200x300]

Account created: 2012-09-28 17:19:06

Go back to Stormfront, idiot.

Facts are raciss.

Enjoy your nap.

[www.ostrichheadinsand.com image 520x342]


Drew, whatever you are paying this troll, you should get your money back. It isn't even entertaining.
 
2012-10-27 08:44:03 PM
Why is it every time a thread about racism comes up, the same people who complain about being unfairly branded as racist turn so "race realist" that John Derbyshire is telling them to dial it down?
 
2012-10-27 08:44:48 PM

whidbey: Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK

If I can read the story, it isn't "censored."

Liar.


I said censored by the national media.
But you've done it. You've called me a bad name and hurt my feelings. I hope you're happy. I'm going to watch the World Series. I may not be back.
 
2012-10-27 08:45:23 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-27 08:45:40 PM

FirstNationalBastard: If you're black, gay, a woman, or make less than a few million dollars per year, the Republicans hate you, and wouldn't mind it if you had as many rights as the average slave off the boat in the 1800s.

Yet they still have the support of about half the country.

We're a very stupid nation.


Pretty farking much this.
 
2012-10-27 08:47:24 PM

Vectron: I may not be back.


i142.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-27 08:47:35 PM

Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK


So you post an article about a white person being attacked by a black person that was carried by a mainstream, widely circulated national newspaper and then an article about a black person being attacked by a white person that is only being being reported by DailyKos and ignored by the media.

Did you just disprove your own point?
 
2012-10-27 08:49:29 PM
Hello. Guy known as "Hispanic" here.

If I may, I'd like to speak for myself, rather than have someone else speak for me, so here goes:

The vast majority of times, when I see someone say things like "Messicans" or "Wetbacks" or make insinuations that I wouldn't ever in a million years assimilate or speak proper English, it's not someone who votes Democratic saying it.

Just an FYI.
 
2012-10-27 08:50:37 PM

Cubicle Jockey: And it's almost entirely a Southern problem. Obama is actually leading among whites in the Midwest, and is only a couple of points behind Romney among whites in the West and Northeast. It's in the eternally ignorant and backwards South that he has a huge deficit.

www.motherjones.com


Obama had the same problem with white Democrats in the South. Hillary Clinton beat Obama by 41% in the West Virginia Democratic primary.

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans have embraced their racists, Democrats have (at least) tried to marginalize them.

Obviously, there are lots of people in both parties that are not racists. W, to his credit, seemed genuinely colorblind when it came to appointments in his administration.
 
2012-10-27 08:51:20 PM

Rapmaster2000: Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.

[blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

I can assure you that these panties accept all races. These are real Southern gals. You're only a Soco and Coke away from The Real South.


way too thin to be real southern gals
 
2012-10-27 08:51:31 PM

Hickory-smoked: No, because he's an evil Republican.

So, it's not about race. What are you even arguing at this point?

It would have been Cain against Obama...of course they aren't going to vote Cain.

Do you think that there weren't people who only voted because they had the opportunity to vote for a black man? Just as I'm sure there were whites who only voted because they didn't want a black man in office.

I accept your suggestion that some people were more motivated to vote in 2008 because that it represented a new achievement in racial equality. I reject your contention that minorities wanting to promote equality between races and other people wanting to preserve or reestablish white privilege are both forms of Racism.

Is "I voted for X because his skin is X" not be a racist statement to you?

There are quite a few rappers who don't strike me as lifelong voters who started campaigns to bring out the vote for Obama etc. .

Like who? And please be specific on how you feel qualified to judge their political motivations.

Here Jay-Z all but comes out and says it and then goes on to say that he otherwise hates politics and then talks about his political leanings which would actually seem to be Republican.

 
2012-10-27 08:52:09 PM

neenerist: Silly Jesus: I completely understand the rational in this case, but it is what it is.

The post to which I responded was about pictures and haircuts, which you chose to paint as racist without even knowing if those people voted. Ooops.


They did. They were wearing "I Voted" stickers at work the next day.
 
2012-10-27 08:54:51 PM

randomjsa: If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal. Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.


How did the Left react when Rice became Secretary of State? What's the so on and so forth exactly?
 
2012-10-27 09:00:32 PM

whidbey: Vectron: I hit the smart buttton for that.
This "racist" thing is just a club to hit Republicans with. Its a guilt trip.

Not sure if stupid, ignorant, or just racist yourself.


Both.

But it's a closeted, self-hating kind of racism. Racism's gotten all kinds of weird in America. Even the white supremacists have been rebranding themselves as "White Separatists" instead of "supremacists." Nobody will say, "them Porch Monkeys is an inferior subspecies," but they'll constantly talk about certain ethnic groups on welfare and their "(negative term) culture" and usually make lots of references to welfare and handouts regardless of their actual socioeconomic status. They won't use the word "inferior" but they'll use all kinds of synonyms and they won't talk about race but they will talk about "culture" and they won't say that black people are the root of all evil but they will wax eloquent about how unfairly treated and abused white people are.

And the thing is these aren't just code words, these people HONESTLY BELIEVE they aren't being racist. They take their racism and shove it so far down into their subconscious that they can't even recognize it, and then just like the homophobe who watches epic amounts of homoerotic wrestling and "brotherly love*" (Nudge nudge wink wink) movies they go on about their racist lives.

*I can't remember the examples that used to get play, but essentially any movie with a "bromance" as bad (awesome?) as Frodo and Sam's.
 
2012-10-27 09:00:50 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK

So you post an article about a white person being attacked by a black person that was carried by a mainstream, widely circulated national newspaper and then an article about a black person being attacked by a white person that is only being being reported by DailyKos and ignored by the media.

Did you just disprove your own point?


Yes. That's why he ran. His fool's "fight or flight" response kicked in, as it always does when you confront a fool with clear evidence of his foolishness, and so he ran. Seems straightforward.
 
2012-10-27 09:02:49 PM

vartian: CreamFilling: Oh, I don't know. I didn't actually read the article.

No, really? Your opinions seem so infromed and nuanced.


FTFY
 
2012-10-27 09:04:09 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK

So you post an article about a white person being attacked by a black person that was carried by a mainstream, widely circulated national newspaper and then an article about a black person being attacked by a white person that is only being being reported by DailyKos and ignored by the media.

Did you just disprove your own point?


The KKK took his babby away.
 
2012-10-27 09:04:51 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com

Seriously guys, just stop feeding him.
 
2012-10-27 09:06:54 PM
I have a couple of rabid right wing friends..

One steadfastly believes that the only reason Liberals voted for Obama is white guilt.

The other steadfastly believes that Obama is pushing the Cloward-Piven strategy because keeping black people poor and dependent on government guarantees support for the Democratic party. He says "when your party depends on the votes of poor people, what is your incentive to make them not poor?"

Both of them are farking nuts.
 
2012-10-27 09:07:33 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Vectron: whidbey: Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.

liar

October 24

Oh and here is a terrible racist attack by the KKK

So you post an article about a white person being attacked by a black person that was carried by a mainstream, widely circulated national newspaper and then an article about a black person being attacked by a white person that is only being being reported by DailyKos and ignored by the media.

Did you just disprove your own point?


The black person person attacked by the KKK turned out to be a hoax. Again. I thought everybody knew that.
I will try to explain my point again about national censorship of black crime. Local papers do report the stories. The brutality of most of these stories seem like they would warrant national coverage. Here is the most famous one that did not get national attention until enough people complained about it.
 
2012-10-27 09:08:26 PM
Oh, and the second one also firmly believes that the Democrats are the racists for wanting to keep minorities poor and voting Democrat.
 
2012-10-27 09:10:23 PM

Silly Jesus: I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.


WTF? Clinton is, and was, a frickin' demi-god to many Black Americans. Do a lot have Obama shirts now? Yes.

Didn't a lot of Caucasians have shirts with Larry Bird even if they weren't fans of the Celtics?

Not mad at you dude, you are allowed to have an opinion but you are way wrong on the Clinton front. As far as Carter, I don't think anyone outside his family would have a picture of dude during his Presidency
 
2012-10-27 09:11:42 PM

tical: Drew, whatever you are paying this troll, you should get your money back. It isn't even entertaining.


It's Saturday night, the A-list trolls are probably out getting blitzed. These B and C-list trolls they bring in to fill the gap really lack the chops for good trolling.

I mean this Vectron guy, he posts offensive stuff, and he's got this racist schtick to him, but he's not really making peoples blood boil and get angry, just feel sorry for him. He seems more pathetic really, either he's just saying it to get a rise, and can't come up with anything better, or he really believes this crap, which is sad. No nuances, no subtlety.

In any case, nice try there, go back to the minor leagues. I'm sure that whatever local small-town paper comment system you came from will take you back. Maybe in another season or two when you get your numbers up.
 
2012-10-27 09:13:44 PM

coco ebert: Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]

I don't think this is necessarily true. If it were true, Blacks would be more split in other Presidential races. The truth is African-Americans tend to vote Democratic instead of along racial lines. Otherwise Herman Cain would have had a lot more support from Black folk.


See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?
 
2012-10-27 09:15:24 PM

Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.


www.retrocampaigns.com

You were saying?
 
2012-10-27 09:15:46 PM
New freeper, same newspaper clippings.
 
2012-10-27 09:20:05 PM

Silverstaff: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

[www.retrocampaigns.com image 360x600]

You were saying?


I think he meant in reality. That's an advertisement with a model being paid to wear that shirt. Nice try though.
 
2012-10-27 09:21:21 PM

Vectron: The truth is, almost every day there are stories of black males attacking white people in the most unspeakable, animalistic ways that are censored from the national dialogue.


That's the awesomest troll I've seen this month.
 
2012-10-27 09:23:23 PM

Silverstaff: tical: Drew, whatever you are paying this troll, you should get your money back. It isn't even entertaining.

It's Saturday night, the A-list trolls are probably out getting blitzed. These B and C-list trolls they bring in to fill the gap really lack the chops for good trolling.

I mean this Vectron guy, he posts offensive stuff, and he's got this racist schtick to him, but he's not really making peoples blood boil and get angry, just feel sorry for him. He seems more pathetic really, either he's just saying it to get a rise, and can't come up with anything better, or he really believes this crap, which is sad. No nuances, no subtlety.

In any case, nice try there, go back to the minor leagues. I'm sure that whatever local small-town paper comment system you came from will take you back. Maybe in another season or two when you get your numbers up.



That was a lot of work for you. It certainly saves you from thinking independantly or arguing congently.
You may return now to your

www.andregardner.com 

echo chamber
 
2012-10-27 09:26:13 PM
Enters thread, looks around:
 
2012-10-27 09:27:12 PM

Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: No, because he's an evil Republican.

So, it's not about race. What are you even arguing at this point?

It would have been Cain against Obama...of course they aren't going to vote Cain.


You must have misunderstood my question. If there was an election between Cain and a white Democrat, do you think black voters would have supported Cain to the same degree they did Obama?


I accept your suggestion that some people were more motivated to vote in 2008 because that it represented a new achievement in racial equality. I reject your contention that minorities wanting to promote equality between races and other people wanting to preserve or reestablish white privilege are both forms of Racism.

Is "I voted for X because his skin is X" not be a racist statement to you?


I think we've established in the previous question that nobody has made that statement.


There are quite a few rappers who don't strike me as lifelong voters who started campaigns to bring out the vote for Obama etc. .

Like who? And please be specific on how you feel qualified to judge their political motivations.

Here Jay-Z all but comes out and says it and then goes on to say that he otherwise hates politics and then talks about his political leanings which would actually seem to be Republican.


Oh, Jesus, "IJReview." I'm sure they didn't spin anything.

(NOTE: the previous sentence was sarcasm.)

"I support Barack because I gotta respect that sort of vision. I gotta respect a man who is the first black President ever," he said. "To have that sort of vision and dream, I have to support that."

See, you're doing the same thing FOX News does, replacing nuance with mental ellipsis to confirm your pre-established narrative.

"I support Barack because ... that ... man ... is ... black"

And you think because he dislikes politicians that means he doesn't vote or is politically apathetic? Seriously?

So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nationalism?
 
2012-10-27 09:28:07 PM

Vectron: Silverstaff: tical: Drew, whatever you are paying this troll, you should get your money back. It isn't even entertaining.

It's Saturday night, the A-list trolls are probably out getting blitzed. These B and C-list trolls they bring in to fill the gap really lack the chops for good trolling.

I mean this Vectron guy, he posts offensive stuff, and he's got this racist schtick to him, but he's not really making peoples blood boil and get angry, just feel sorry for him. He seems more pathetic really, either he's just saying it to get a rise, and can't come up with anything better, or he really believes this crap, which is sad. No nuances, no subtlety.

In any case, nice try there, go back to the minor leagues. I'm sure that whatever local small-town paper comment system you came from will take you back. Maybe in another season or two when you get your numbers up.


That was a lot of work for you. It certainly saves you from thinking independantly or arguing congently.
You may return now to your

[www.andregardner.com image 640x480] 

echo chamber


img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com

Give it up already.

As someone else pointed out earlier on, you started off in this thread by making mundane, non-troll posts. Then you realized that no one was paying attention to you so you upped the ante and started with the race-baiting. When you make a blatantly obvious face-heel-turn like that in the same thread, it's kind of easy for people to tell that you're just a troll.

/also, I thought you were leaving
 
2012-10-27 09:35:24 PM

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Vectron: Silverstaff: tical: Drew, whatever you are paying this troll, you should get your money back. It isn't even entertaining.

It's Saturday night, the A-list trolls are probably out getting blitzed. These B and C-list trolls they bring in to fill the gap really lack the chops for good trolling.

I mean this Vectron guy, he posts offensive stuff, and he's got this racist schtick to him, but he's not really making peoples blood boil and get angry, just feel sorry for him. He seems more pathetic really, either he's just saying it to get a rise, and can't come up with anything better, or he really believes this crap, which is sad. No nuances, no subtlety.

In any case, nice try there, go back to the minor leagues. I'm sure that whatever local small-town paper comment system you came from will take you back. Maybe in another season or two when you get your numbers up.


That was a lot of work for you. It certainly saves you from thinking independantly or arguing congently.
You may return now to your

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echo chamber

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Give it up already.

As someone else pointed out earlier on, you started off in this thread by making mundane, non-troll posts. Then you realized that no one was paying attention to you so you upped the ante and started with the race-baiting. When you make a blatantly obvious face-heel-turn like that in the same thread, it's kind of easy for people to tell that you're just a troll.

/also, I thought you were leaving


www.crocktees.com
 
2012-10-27 09:37:20 PM
randomjsa (farkied: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass) If you want to see racism, be a minority that disagrees with a liberal.

Roight. Antonin Scalia spews derp, we call him out. Clarence Thomas spews derp, we call him out. Somehow that's racist.

Not only will they gladly use racial epithets they might even go so far as to start hitting you (SEIU members beating a black man). The racist vitriol that got spewed at that Af. American actress. How the left reacted when Rice became Sec of State. So on and so forth.

As with all things, the left only ever has a problem with offensive ideas and or behaviors when it's a non-liberal doing them.


i260.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-27 09:45:15 PM

Smelly McUgly: coco ebert: Smelly McUgly: coco ebert: a_bilge_monkey: coco ebert: If there's a dog whistle, I'm not sure to whom because it certainly wasn't intentional. Are you referring to the fact that I assumed the picture referenced African-Americans instead of any voter who votes for Obama? On that you got me I guess.

"Black folk" . If I walked in to a bar, restaurant, grocery store, what have you, and asked "Hey, who are you black folk voting for?", I would be roundly and deservedly chastised for it.

Oh, ha! I didn't even think of that because it's just a colloquialism my friends and I use when chatting. As a white person I should be careful of my phrasing, though.

Man, you can say "black folks." I say "white folks." I can't speak for EVERY black person, of course, but I doubt anyone would care.

Come to think of it, I use the term"white folk", but I'm not sure why. One of those strange colloquialisms I guess.

Yeah, I think it's more of a southern thing than anything. I picked it up when I lived in Texas for awhile.

I certainly thought you sounded more like you were from the South than anything. I don't know anyone who would be offended by that term.


Actually, I did grow up in the South. I think you may be right.
 
2012-10-27 09:48:03 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Clarence Thomas spews derp, we call him out.


To be fair, that would require him to speak at all, which...well, it's been what, over six years since he asked a question during oral arguments?
 
2012-10-27 09:49:21 PM

hbk72777: There are many black folks that are intelligent. I'm a big fan of Rev Manning, because he speaks the truth, and has the balls to stand up to Sharpton, Jackson, and Liberal race baiters

Link


A black separatist who wants every non-black resident (along with black race traitors) evicted from Harlem? Yeah, you go with that.

You've posted some stupid shiat before, but congrats on actually earning a Farky.
 
2012-10-27 09:55:04 PM

Silverstaff: Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.

[www.retrocampaigns.com image 360x600]

You were saying?


One picture of one person wearing a retro shirt that was obviously not taken at the time of his presidency. You have disproved my point. I am ashamed. May I ever win your forgiveness?
 
2012-10-27 09:55:24 PM

intelligent comment below: Bisu: See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?

Bush won the white vote in similar fashions. Your point?


Like I keep saying: People of color only vote based on skin tone. White people vote based on a careful consideration of the candidate's position on the issues. Thus, when black people vote for a black candidate: Racism. White people vote for a white candidate: Careful, rational thought. AND NOTHING ELSE.

(Oh, and if black people vote for a white candidate? Careful, rational thought. White people vote for a black candidate? They don't want to look like racists. Got that?)
 
2012-10-27 09:55:24 PM
In other Des Moines area news, an Urbandale Man Cited For Hunting Squirrels. The man, clad in camouflage, was reportedly hunting squirrels in his backyard Friday morning, Urbandale police said.

"The 23-year-old man did not say why he was shooting them, said Officer Randy Peterson, police spokesman. Erickson did tell police, however, that he had to shoot the critters in the head to kill them, Peterson said. When police arrived, two squirrels were dead on the deck." 

I am relieved to know Iowa is safer with this patriot around from the scourge of jihadist rodents.
 
2012-10-27 09:57:34 PM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


To be fair, it's alot safer for a black person to walk through a white neighborhood than through a black neighborhood, too.

Not sure what you're trying to say.
 
2012-10-27 09:59:54 PM

Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: No, because he's an evil Republican.

So, it's not about race. What are you even arguing at this point?

It would have been Cain against Obama...of course they aren't going to vote Cain.

You must have misunderstood my question. If there was an election between Cain and a white Democrat, do you think black voters would have supported Cain to the same degree they did Obama?


I accept your suggestion that some people were more motivated to vote in 2008 because that it represented a new achievement in racial equality. I reject your contention that minorities wanting to promote equality between races and other people wanting to preserve or reestablish white privilege are both forms of Racism.

Is "I voted for X because his skin is X" not be a racist statement to you?

I think we've established in the previous question that nobody has made that statement.


There are quite a few rappers who don't strike me as lifelong voters who started campaigns to bring out the vote for Obama etc. .

Like who? And please be specific on how you feel qualified to judge their political motivations.

Here Jay-Z all but comes out and says it and then goes on to say that he otherwise hates politics and then talks about his political leanings which would actually seem to be Republican.

Oh, Jesus, "IJReview." I'm sure they didn't spin anything.

(NOTE: the previous sentence was sarcasm.)

"I support Barack because I gotta respect that sort of vision. I gotta respect a man who is the first black President ever," he said. "To have that sort of vision and dream, I have to support that."

See, you're doing the same thing FOX News does, replacing nuance with mental ellipsis to confirm your pre-established narrative.

"I support Barack because ... that ... man ... is ... black"

And you think because he dislikes politicians that means he doesn't vote or is politically apathetic? Seriously?

So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nation ...


Snoop Dogg tweeted his list of reasons for voting for Obama. "He's Black" was #1.
 
2012-10-27 10:00:11 PM

intelligent comment below: Bisu: See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?

Bush won the white vote in similar fashions. Your point?


I'd ask, "Bush vs whom?" but it doesn't matter because your claim isn't true for ANY primary or election Bush was in.
 
2012-10-27 10:01:11 PM

homelessdude: In other Des Moines area news, an Urbandale Man Cited For Hunting Squirrels. The man, clad in camouflage, was reportedly hunting squirrels in his backyard Friday morning, Urbandale police said.

"The 23-year-old man did not say why he was shooting them, said Officer Randy Peterson, police spokesman. Erickson did tell police, however, that he had to shoot the critters in the head to kill them, Peterson said. When police arrived, two squirrels were dead on the deck." 

I am relieved to know Iowa is safer with this patriot around from the scourge of jihadist rodents.


If you can come up with a better way to get a Jakobs Varmint-bane skin I'd like to hear it.
 
2012-10-27 10:02:16 PM

Gyrfalcon: intelligent comment below: Bisu: See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?

Bush won the white vote in similar fashions. Your point?

Like I keep saying: People of color only vote based on skin tone. White people vote based on a careful consideration of the candidate's position on the issues. Thus, when black people vote for a black candidate: Racism. White people vote for a white candidate: Careful, rational thought. AND NOTHING ELSE.

(Oh, and if black people vote for a white candidate? Careful, rational thought. White people vote for a black candidate? They don't want to look like racists. Got that?)


Perhaps you should have considered the fact that his post was 100% incorrect before using it to support your trolling.
 
2012-10-27 10:02:27 PM
Hickory-smoked: Also, not a rapper, but one of the celebs that came to mind when making the claim...

The actor Samuel L. Jackson said much the same thing: 'I voted for Barack because he was black,' he told Ebony magazine. 'Cuz that's why other folks vote for other people - because they look like them.'
 
2012-10-27 10:06:38 PM

Bisu: Gyrfalcon: intelligent comment below: Bisu: See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?

Bush won the white vote in similar fashions. Your point?

Like I keep saying: People of color only vote based on skin tone. White people vote based on a careful consideration of the candidate's position on the issues. Thus, when black people vote for a black candidate: Racism. White people vote for a white candidate: Careful, rational thought. AND NOTHING ELSE.

(Oh, and if black people vote for a white candidate? Careful, rational thought. White people vote for a black candidate? They don't want to look like racists. Got that?)

Perhaps you should have considered the fact that his post was 100% incorrect before using it to support your trolling.


Sarcasm. The word you were looking for is sarcasm. Cracker.
 
2012-10-27 10:06:54 PM

Silly Jesus: mrlewish:
coco ebert:

I'll just say this. None of the AfAm owned businesses that is patronize had pictures of any other Democratic president all over their walls. And I've never seen AfAm folks wearing t-shirts and jeans with Clinton on them or Jimmy Carter's face shaved into their hair.


Well if Romney wins you can shave his face into your hair and wear the T-shirt and Jeans.

You don't get it.
 
2012-10-27 10:06:59 PM

Silly Jesus: So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nation ...

Snoop Dogg tweeted his list of reasons for voting for Obama. "He's Black" was #1.


i.huffpost.com

Here's a hint for people like you who are unfamiliar with the man's act; Snoop Dogg is not being entirely serious at all times. 

Got anything else? You done now?
 
2012-10-27 10:07:39 PM

DeltaPunch: I love conservative humor. It's not nuanced, intelligent, or even remotely funny. It's simply underlining their frustration.


Q. How do all the best Republican jokes begin?
A. (nervously looks around the room to make sure no minorities are around)
 
2012-10-27 10:07:55 PM
FTFA: My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

The man is correct. The Republican power base -- i.e., most of the rich people in the U.S. -- cannot pull in enough votes on its own to win elections. So, they go after the right-wing kooks, which include the "conservative" religious zealots and the white supremacist bigots (those are not mutually exclusive btw) and a vast majority of the undereducated hotheads. I don't believe in my heart that the true core of the Republican party really likes having most of these idiots in their constituency, but from a vote-count perspective they really have no choice but to court them. I would think that most of the real leadership in the Republican party finds a significant portion of their constituency to be repugnant at best. They see it as a necessary evil.
 
2012-10-27 10:08:48 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Cracker.


That's *our* word, you don't get to use that word. You may instead use "biscuits"
 
2012-10-27 10:12:10 PM

Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nation ...

Snoop Dogg tweeted his list of reasons for voting for Obama. "He's Black" was #1.

[i.huffpost.com image 570x570]

Here's a hint for people like you who are unfamiliar with the man's act; Snoop Dogg is not being entirely serious at all times. 

Got anything else? You done now?


So it's supposed to only be rappers that you deem serious?

3.bp.blogspot.com

Yep, I'm done with you now. Toodles.
 
2012-10-27 10:17:33 PM

Vectron: while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


Yes because all black neighborhoods are violent and crime ridden and there's no such thing as a safe black neighborhood.

/this is what idiots actually believe
 
2012-10-27 10:18:06 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Bisu: Gyrfalcon: intelligent comment below: Bisu: See: http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2008/06/democratic-nomination-voter-tota ls-by.html

2008 Democratic Primary results, by race

Blacks: 85.1% Obama, 14.9% Clinton

That's quite a spread there, wouldn't ya say?

Bush won the white vote in similar fashions. Your point?

Like I keep saying: People of color only vote based on skin tone. White people vote based on a careful consideration of the candidate's position on the issues. Thus, when black people vote for a black candidate: Racism. White people vote for a white candidate: Careful, rational thought. AND NOTHING ELSE.

(Oh, and if black people vote for a white candidate? Careful, rational thought. White people vote for a black candidate? They don't want to look like racists. Got that?)

Perhaps you should have considered the fact that his post was 100% incorrect before using it to support your trolling.

Sarcasm. The word you were looking for is sarcasm. Cracker.


My sarcasm is often too subtle for these folks. It's my curse, subtlety. I need to swap out that 2x4 for something less delicate, like a Peterbilt.
 
2012-10-27 10:18:38 PM

Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nation ...

Snoop Dogg tweeted his list of reasons for voting for Obama. "He's Black" was #1.

[i.huffpost.com image 570x570]

Here's a hint for people like you who are unfamiliar with the man's act; Snoop Dogg is not being entirely serious at all times. 

Got anything else? You done now?

So it's supposed to only be rappers that you deem serious?


If you accusation is that there is a movement of Black Americans who only support Obama because they hate whitey, then yeah, maybe you should find an example that is serious instead of unthinkingly repeating what you read off of Free Republic.

Yep, I'm done with you now. Toodles.

Good night!
 
2012-10-27 10:20:59 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


So, you're the stupid one?
 
2012-10-27 10:22:36 PM

Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: Hickory-smoked: Silly Jesus: So who are these other "quite a few rappers" you're accusing of Black Nation ...

Snoop Dogg tweeted his list of reasons for voting for Obama. "He's Black" was #1.

[i.huffpost.com image 570x570]

Here's a hint for people like you who are unfamiliar with the man's act; Snoop Dogg is not being entirely serious at all times. 

Got anything else? You done now?

So it's supposed to only be rappers that you deem serious?

If you accusation is that there is a movement of Black Americans who only support Obama because they hate whitey, then yeah, maybe you should find an example that is serious instead of unthinkingly repeating what you read off of Free Republic.

Yep, I'm done with you now. Toodles.

Good night!


1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.
2. Never read Free Republic.

Sweet Dreams!
 
2012-10-27 10:23:00 PM

Muta: The Republicans are divided on this issue. Here's an interesting artcle from the New Yorker describing the G.O.P. split over whether to emphasize misogyny or racism

[ ... ]



I know you mean well, but Andy Borowitz is not a news journalist. He is a humorist who makes up "funny" stuff at the New Yorker. It's kind of like the Onion but ever-so-slightly less obvious; picture a sledgehammer swaddled in angora.
 
2012-10-27 10:29:59 PM

Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.


What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?
 
2012-10-27 10:34:32 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?


That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.
 
2012-10-27 10:36:18 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


a lot of people struggle with family members who have a different political beliefs then they do. the trick is to realize that as adults we are all strangers to each other, and keep the conversation focus on non-political subjects.

there is a book called "the righteous mind" that came out recently that I really recommend to people who find themselves in this position. the central thesis is that having different answers to particular moral questions than your own, does not make a person immoral.

most people compartmentalize their political/religious beliefs. and arriving at different answers to moral questions, while frustrating, shows that they are not immoral or evil, but instead very concerned about moral behavior.

all this is a long winded way to say good people can sometimes become passionate advocates for opposing viewpoints while remaining "good" people and speaking cordially to each other.

sadly, in this day and age, the younger generation has to be the bigger persons far too often. those we once feared and respected as a demigods (parents) turn out to be people like anyone else, just as capable of becoming scared and confused of a changing world that seems to be passing them by.

still, for what its worth I hope you can patch things up with your parents at least a little bit. assuming they aren't terrible people by nature, as I've grown older, I've come to believe that a strong relationship with your parents is one of the single best things an adult can have. very few other people in this world will ever unquestionably want what is best for you. even if you and them disagree on what exactly that is, their hearts are always in the right place. the older you get, the more you will treasure it.

I hope for your sake, that after next Tuesday fails to begin a thousand year reign of darkness, your parents will slowly start to chill out, and you guys will be able to start patching things up.
 
2012-10-27 10:39:20 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Q. How do all the best Republican jokes begin?


A hypocrite, a Republican, and a closeted gay walk into a bar...
 
2012-10-27 10:40:40 PM

DeltaPunch: Lenny_da_Hog: Q. How do all the best Republican jokes begin?

A hypocrite, a Republican, and a closeted gay walk into a bar...


They only took up one stool.
 
2012-10-27 10:43:42 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.


Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.
 
2012-10-27 10:45:22 PM

runcible spork: He is a humorist who makes up "funny" stuff at the New Yorker.


That doesn't mean his work doesn't contain insight into the workings of things. Same with The Onion, sure it's satire but often there is some damn good insight involved.
 
2012-10-27 10:48:59 PM
i18.photobucket.com

"My...party is...full..of...racists!"
 
2012-10-27 10:51:08 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.


You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?
 
2012-10-27 10:54:00 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.


Can you give a reason why that is "not the correct number to look at", other than because it destroys your entire argument? Your anecdote should be more convincing why exactly?
 
2012-10-27 10:54:31 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?


So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.
 
2012-10-27 10:55:53 PM

Silly Jesus:
That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.


That Obama's being black inspired the patriotic duty of citizens (of any race) to vote in this country, considering our history, does not "reek of racism". I know you understand this as you hint around at the matter. It was a proud and overdue moment for us all.
 
2012-10-27 10:57:19 PM

Abner Doon: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Can you give a reason why that is "not the correct number to look at", other than because it destroys your entire argument? Your anecdote should be more convincing why exactly?


Um...because that's not the point that I've been trying to make?

I don't know that any statistics on what we were talking about were collected. I sort of doubt it...so other than anecdotes and common sense, I can't really "prove" anything to you. Oh well.
 
2012-10-27 10:58:01 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?

So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.


You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.
 
2012-10-27 10:59:29 PM

Ablejack: Silly Jesus:
That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

That Obama's being black inspired the patriotic duty of citizens (of any race) to vote in this country, considering our history, does not "reek of racism". I know you understand this as you hint around at the matter. It was a proud and overdue moment for us all.


I see both sides of the thing. I see the "proud moment in history" angle but it is also, factually, "I'm voting for X because his skin is X."
 
2012-10-27 11:00:05 PM

Hickory-smoked: Vectron: I may not be back.
[i142.photobucket.com image 300x170]


I put that guy on ignore in the very first thread I saw him in. I'm not usually that fast.

Here's a hint for people like you who are unfamiliar with the man's act; Snoop Dogg is not being entirely serious at all times.

Oh Snoopy. You da man.  Let's smoke a bowl together.
 
2012-10-27 11:00:35 PM

Silly Jesus: You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.


That was your claim you mouthbreather.

So I'll ask again. What percentage of black Americans voted for Kerry and Gore?
 
2012-10-27 11:00:49 PM

CapeFearCadaver: DemonEater: Wow, seriously? That really sucks.
Just remember you have a sort of dysfunctional, incestuous, mentally ill second family here on Fark. You can even come over for Thanksgiving, as long as you bring beer and don't mind that tenpoundsofmoron is a distant cousin who comes and spreads feces on the bathroom wall.

/Seriously though, find yourself a group of liberals/secularist friends and you'll have a new family pretty damn quick.

Yeah, I'm done with them. It wasn't just this election cycle; I was told my ex putting me in the hospital was my fault for not obeying his ridiculous demands of control. It took the DA actively barring them from the courthouse when the ex was put on trial for them to finally get it... kind of...

Thanks, that's why I'm here on a Saturday :) I's gots a group of other misfits coming over for Thanksgiving turkey, too!
/no poop on the walls allowed though


fark. Ignore my schmaltzy post above. I was talking about your garden variety bakes-you-cookies-and-changes-your-oil-while-mentioning-a-forwarded-em ail-proving-Obama-is-the-AntiChrist sort of parents. There's a lot of those in Kansas.

But I know in the bottom of my heart that my parents, bless their Derpy little hearts would never take the side of am abusive spouse over me.

And I am so so sorry for you that you don't know that for your self. No child should be made to feel that way. Hope you have a support network strong enough to replace the one they owed you as their child. Make those people, the good people in your life, your family. And god bless you all.

Sorry again for my tactlessness
 
2012-10-27 11:03:24 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?

So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.

You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.


The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

It's not surprising a group would stick with the party that first acknowledged that they were equal to them.

And before you trot out Lincoln, remember that the Emancipation Proclamation made them free, not equal.
 
2012-10-27 11:05:28 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.

That was your claim you mouthbreather.

So I'll ask again. What percentage of black Americans voted for Kerry and Gore?


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-27 11:06:36 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.

That was your claim you mouthbreather.

So I'll ask again. What percentage of black Americans voted for Kerry and Gore?

[media.tumblr.com image 235x206]


Now the picspam starts. Lovely.
 
2012-10-27 11:06:57 PM

Silly Jesus: Abner Doon: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Can you give a reason why that is "not the correct number to look at", other than because it destroys your entire argument? Your anecdote should be more convincing why exactly?

Um...because that's not the point that I've been trying to make?

I don't know that any statistics on what we were talking about were collected. I sort of doubt it...so other than anecdotes and common sense, I can't really "prove" anything to you. Oh well.


You're arguing that a significant number of black people voted for Obama because he is black, correct? That would easily show up in the simple percentage of black people that voted for Obama vs. those that have voted for other politicians with similar views. So why would you not look at the people who voted for Kerry? How is that not where you'd obviously look?
 
2012-10-27 11:08:18 PM

stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?

So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.

You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.

The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

It's not surprising a group would stick with the party that first acknowledged that they were equal to them.

And before you trot out Lincoln, remember that the Emancipation Proclamation made them free, not equal.


Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.
 
2012-10-27 11:08:23 PM

Silly Jesus: Ablejack: That Obama's being black inspired the patriotic duty of citizens (of any race) to vote in this country, considering our history, does not "reek of racism". I know you understand this as you hint around at the matter. It was a proud and overdue moment for us all.

I see both sides of the thing. I see the "proud moment in history" angle but it is also, factually, "I'm voting for X because his skin is X."


I understand and I believe we both in fact see both sides. We differ in that only you find it "reeks of racism", whereas I felt racism was somewhat overcome.
 
2012-10-27 11:09:15 PM

WhyteRaven74: runcible spork: He is a humorist who makes up "funny" stuff at the New Yorker.

That doesn't mean his work doesn't contain insight into the workings of things. Same with The Onion, sure it's satire but often there is some damn good insight involved.



Of course it doesn't. Fiction so often provides more insight than dry reportage. I just wanted to make sure that Muta understood the whence and the context, since he presented it here as an article, and seemingly a factual one.
 
2012-10-27 11:09:59 PM

Abner Doon: Silly Jesus: Abner Doon: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Can you give a reason why that is "not the correct number to look at", other than because it destroys your entire argument? Your anecdote should be more convincing why exactly?

Um...because that's not the point that I've been trying to make?

I don't know that any statistics on what we were talking about were collected. I sort of doubt it...so other than anecdotes and common sense, I can't really "prove" anything to you. Oh well.

You're arguing that a significant number of black people voted for Obama because he is black, correct? That would easily show up in the simple percentage of black people that voted for Obama vs. those that have voted for other politicians with similar views. So why would you not look at the people who voted for Kerry? How is that not where you'd obviously look?


PA had a black person (who happened to be a former player for the Pittsburgh Steelers) run on the GOP ticket for Governor against Ed Rendell and African-Americans still voted for Ed Rendell overwhelmingly.

Soo....yeah.
 
2012-10-27 11:11:08 PM

Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.


Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.
 
2012-10-27 11:12:19 PM
It would not bother me if anyone who voted for Obama listed "because he is black" among their reasons.
 
2012-10-27 11:13:31 PM

Silly Jesus: stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?

So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.

You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.

The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

It's not surprising a group would stick with the party that first acknowledged that they were equal to them.

And before you trot out Lincoln, remember that the Emancipation Proclamation made them free, not equal.

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's ...


Hip hop stars have been telling people to vote and who to vote for since Clinton in 96. Remember "Vote or Die?"
Hell, Eminem put out a song telling people to vote Dubya out of office. It gets them extra publicity.

But you have lots of hearsay and conjecture, and those are "kinds of evidence." 

Anyway, I get your point. Both sides racist, so vote Republican.
 
2012-10-27 11:16:27 PM
I came by this thread hoping to find a weak argument to pick apart. Instead I'm just finding a massively target-rich environment for improving my ignore list.
 
2012-10-27 11:17:39 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.


I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.
 
2012-10-27 11:17:44 PM

stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.


Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.
 
2012-10-27 11:18:29 PM

stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: 1. I never called it a movement. I merely suggested that black Americans voting based solely on race is not a myth. And that I deem it just as racist as the idiots voting against Obama solely because he's black.

What percentage of blacks do you think that voted for Gore and Kerry?

That's not the correct number to look at. It's the number that voted for the first time or for the first time in a good while, for Obama, because he's black. The janitor at work is in his 50's and never voted before. He didn't try to keep it a secret that he was voting for the first time because a black man was running. He spoke of his wife doing the same thing. I don't think that this mentality was entirely uncommon. I completely understand why he did it and don't necessarily fault him for it, but "I'm voting for X because his skin is X" still reeks of racism.

Anecdotal evidence is the magic number alright.

You don't think that that may have been a common sentiment among AfAm's who experienced the civil rights movement?

So anecdotal evidence from a troll trumps actual statistics. Got it.

You have statistics on the number of AfAm's that voted solely because Obama was black? I'd love to see them.

The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

It's not surprising a group would stick with the party that first acknowledged that they were equal to them.

And before you trot out Lincoln, remember that the Emancipation Proclamation made them free, not equal.

Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement b ...


Nope. Both sides are racist, so vote libertarian or Mickey Mouse.
 
2012-10-27 11:19:46 PM

MisterTweak: I came by this thread hoping to find a weak argument to pick apart. Instead I'm just finding a massively target-rich environment for improving my ignore list.

 

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-27 11:20:23 PM
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-27 11:22:18 PM

CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.


blog.2modern.com
 
2012-10-27 11:22:57 PM

Silly Jesus: Nope. Both sides are racist, so vote libertarian or Mickey Mouse.


Both are a waste of a good vote.

/Hey-o!
 
2012-10-27 11:24:09 PM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

The man is correct. The Republican power base -- i.e., most of the rich people in the U.S. -- cannot pull in enough votes on its own to win elections. So, they go after the right-wing kooks, which include the "conservative" religious zealots and the white supremacist bigots (those are not mutually exclusive btw) and a vast majority of the undereducated hotheads. I don't believe in my heart that the true core of the Republican party really likes having most of these idiots in their constituency, but from a vote-count perspective they really have no choice but to court them. I would think that most of the real leadership in the Republican party finds a significant portion of their constituency to be repugnant at best. They see it as a necessary evil.


"I don't wanna bang that beast, but damn, her daddy's loaded and I need the money, so I'll just nail the pre-nup to the bedpost, whine about it to all my friends, and stuff that beast's muffin."

Really? That's the best the GOP can do?
 
2012-10-27 11:24:38 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.

I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.


Only against obvious trolls.
 
2012-10-27 11:26:26 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.

I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.

Only against obvious trolls.


And again...
 
2012-10-27 11:27:07 PM

Ablejack: It would not bother me if anyone who voted for Obama listed "because he is black" among their reasons.


One reason I'm voting for Obama this year because he is not Mormon.

I have to admit, that's one of the reasons.
 
2012-10-27 11:28:02 PM

Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]


John Kerry got 88% of the African American vote in 2004.
Link

4 years later, Obama got about 93% of the African American vote.

That's not an earth shaking increase.
 
2012-10-27 11:28:29 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.

I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.

Only against obvious trolls.

And again...


oi52.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-27 11:28:57 PM

stoli n coke: DeltaPunch: Lenny_da_Hog: Q. How do all the best Republican jokes begin?

A hypocrite, a Republican, and a closeted gay walk into a bar...

They only took up one stool.


Stacked ass-to-cock like a human totem pole?

Oh wait...
 
2012-10-27 11:33:08 PM

stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]

John Kerry got 88% of the African American vote in 2004.
Link

4 years later, Obama got about 93% of the African American vote.

That's not an earth shaking increase.


Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.
 
2012-10-27 11:34:04 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.

I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.

Only against obvious trolls.

And again...

[oi52.tinypic.com image 477x346]


s3.favim.com
 
2012-10-27 11:34:22 PM

Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.


You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.
 
2012-10-27 11:34:29 PM

Vectron: I will try to explain my point again about national censorship of black crime. Local papers do report the stories. The brutality of most of these stories seem like they would warrant national coverage. Here is the most famous one that did not get national attention until enough people complained about it.


No, the honorable thing to do here is drop the point and admit you're full of it.

In fact, I insist on it.
 
2012-10-27 11:37:49 PM
That's nothing - my hovercraft is full of eels!
 
2012-10-27 11:38:25 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.


Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.
 
2012-10-27 11:38:36 PM
Thanks for locking my computer up Huffington Post .....ASSHOLES !!!!!
 
2012-10-27 11:43:05 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.


So it was barely up and black Americans still voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat like they have done since the sixties.

Shocking that you guys were wrong.
 
2012-10-27 11:44:25 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.


Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.
 
2012-10-27 11:45:01 PM

stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]

John Kerry got 88% of the African American vote in 2004.
Link

4 years later, Obama got about 93% of the African American vote.

That's not an earth shaking increase.


Walter Mondale got 91% of the black vote in 1984, Dukakis got 89% in 1988, and Al Gore got 90% in 2000.

1984

1988 

2000
 
2012-10-27 11:46:29 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.


Whoops, sorry. I did misstate it. I calculated from the trough in 1996, not 2004. From 2004 to 2008 the actual increase was 8.1%, or 4.9 percentage points.
 
2012-10-27 11:48:42 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.


So, the surge in African American voters in 2008 was demographically in line with all registrations that year and not the 20% bullshiat that was being bandied about?

I am shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.
 
2012-10-27 11:54:39 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

So it was barely up and black Americans still voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat like they have done since the sixties.

Shocking that you guys were wrong.


I never argued any change in voting for the Democrat...I simply argued that a certain number of extra AfAm's voted (5%) and I think that it was logically due to race.
 
2012-10-27 11:55:02 PM

stoli n coke: YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.

So, the surge in African American voters in 2008 was demographically in line with all registrations that year and not the 20% bullshiat that was being bandied about?

I am shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.


But but black janitor!
 
2012-10-27 11:55:26 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.


It was the largest AfAm increase in 20 years, so yea.
 
2012-10-27 11:56:43 PM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

So it was barely up and black Americans still voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat like they have done since the sixties.

Shocking that you guys were wrong.

I never argued any change in voting for the Democrat...I simply argued that a certain number of extra AfAm's voted (5%) and I think that it was logically due to race.


Or you know the increased participation from 2004 across the board. You simply argued badly.
 
2012-10-27 11:57:08 PM

stoli n coke: YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.

So, the surge in African American voters in 2008 was demographically in line with all registrations that year and not the 20% bullshiat that was being bandied about?

I am shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.


No. It was the largest AfAm increase in 20 years. Other demographics actually decreased.

You are finally on the right track though and no longer entirely missing the point...so congrats on that.
 
2012-10-27 11:58:35 PM

Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

So it was barely up and black Americans still voted overwhelmingly for the Democrat like they have done since the sixties.

Shocking that you guys were wrong.

I never argued any change in voting for the Democrat...I simply argued that a certain number of extra AfAm's voted (5%) and I think that it was logically due to race.

Or you know the increased participation from 2004 across the board. You simply argued badly.


WTF?
 
2012-10-27 11:58:51 PM

Silly Jesus: No. It was the largest AfAm increase in 20 years. Other demographics actually decreased.


How exactly does this make sense with 7% increase in voting from 2004?

Silly Jesus: It was the largest AfAm increase in 20 years, so yea.


So what?
 
2012-10-27 11:59:11 PM
www.goodlightscraps.com
 
2012-10-27 11:59:11 PM

stoli n coke: YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Yea but not as significant as the 7 percent overall increase in voter turnout from 2004, so yea.

So, the surge in African American voters in 2008 was demographically in line with all registrations that year and not the 20% bullshiat that was being bandied about?

I am shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.


Voter turnout actually decreased 0.2 percentage points from 2004 to 2008. There were just more eligible voters. The surge in African American voters was a huge part of that. The actual number of African American voters increased by over 2 million.
 
2012-10-28 12:01:52 AM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.


Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.
 
2012-10-28 12:03:34 AM
 
2012-10-28 12:04:14 AM

CreamFilling: Voter turnout actually decreased 0.2 percentage points from 2004 to 2008.


Voter turnout in 2004: 56.2%
Voter turnout in 2008: 63.0%

lolwut
 
2012-10-28 12:05:54 AM

YoungSwedishBlonde: CreamFilling: Voter turnout actually decreased 0.2 percentage points from 2004 to 2008.

Voter turnout in 2004: 56.2%
Voter turnout in 2008: 63.0%

lolwut


Math has a liberal bias.
 
2012-10-28 12:06:08 AM

Ablejack: It would not bother me if anyone who voted for Obama listed "because he is black" among their reasons.


Would it bother you if anyone listed "because he is white" as a reason to vote for Romney?
 
2012-10-28 12:06:59 AM

CreamFilling: Actual facts and statistics


That has to be the only source that claims voter turnout was higher in 2004.
 
2012-10-28 12:07:12 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Ablejack: It would not bother me if anyone who voted for Obama listed "because he is black" among their reasons.

Would it bother you if anyone listed "because he is white" as a reason to vote for Romney?


I believe that is phrased "Straight Ticket Republican" on the ballot.
 
2012-10-28 12:09:02 AM

stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]

John Kerry got 88% of the African American vote in 2004.
Link

4 years later, Obama got about 93% of the African American vote.

That's not an earth shaking increase.


Actually it was 95 percent in 2013 I believe. And statistically, that's a huge increase.
 
2012-10-28 12:11:25 AM

Halli: CreamFilling: Actual facts and statistics

That has to be the only source that claims voter turnout was higher in 2004.


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2004G.html
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf

All of these also show it pretty much flat, no statistical significance. Who has it as a 7% overall increase?
 
2012-10-28 12:12:03 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: stoli n coke: Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]

John Kerry got 88% of the African American vote in 2004.
Link

4 years later, Obama got about 93% of the African American vote.

That's not an earth shaking increase.

Actually it was 95 percent in 2013 I believe. And statistically, that's a huge increase.


5% higher than Al Gore, in fact.
 
2012-10-28 12:13:58 AM

CreamFilling: Halli: CreamFilling: Actual facts and statistics

That has to be the only source that claims voter turnout was higher in 2004.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2004G.html
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf

All of these also show it pretty much flat, no statistical significance. Who has it as a 7% overall increase?


So that was wrong but then again so was your 20% claim.
 
2012-10-28 12:14:58 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Actually it was 95 percent in 2013 I believe. And statistically, that's a huge increase.


What other news is there from the future?
 
2012-10-28 12:16:17 AM

CreamFilling: Halli: CreamFilling: Actual facts and statistics

That has to be the only source that claims voter turnout was higher in 2004.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html
http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2004G.html
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf

All of these also show it pretty much flat, no statistical significance. Who has it as a 7% overall increase?


The amount of registered voters went up as there were more than 10 million additional people above voting age in the population from 2004 to 2008.
 
2012-10-28 12:18:44 AM

Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Not what I'm saying. I'm saying that AfAm's who don't ordinarily vote, voted for the first time or for the first time in a while solely because of Obama and his race. A lot registered to vote because hip hop stars told them to etc. There was a movement because AfAm's were proud to have made such progress, and that's entirely understandable. I just don't understand the adamant denial by the libs that this took place.

Probably because you're an idiotic troll who trotted out your lame anecdotal evidence in support of your inane theory.

I've noticed that you resort to name calling a lot.

Only against obvious trolls.

And again...

[oi52.tinypic.com image 477x346]

[s3.favim.com image 500x244]


This is the second thread you produced that exact same image. Either you are trolling and have a preset series of images to use as a retort, or have something strange going on for Justin Beiber.
 
2012-10-28 12:20:04 AM
There was also similar increase in support amongst Asians but hispanics went up from 53% in 2004 to 67% in 2008.

Maybe there is a reason for this.
 
2012-10-28 12:22:24 AM

stoli n coke: The amount of registered voters went up as there were more than 10 million additional people above voting age in the population from 2004 to 2008.


Right, and turnout was more or less the same, which is a statistic independent of the number of voters.

Halli: So that was wrong but then again so was your 20% claim.


Yes, as I acknowledged, and explained where I made the mistake. Care to do the same?
 
2012-10-28 12:23:39 AM

Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.


I will not buy this record. It is scratched.
 
2012-10-28 12:24:15 AM

Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.


Per the roper center, Bush beat Kerry 58-41 among white voters, while McCain beat Obama 55-43 among white voters.

Obama beat McCain 95-4 among blacks, while Kerry beat bush 88-11. That's a much stronger gain amongst blacks, which would indicate that race factored much more into the voting decision of blacks than whites.

Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry, and that the modest gains among whites relativr to blacks was due to racism among whites rather than racial preference among blacks, because Obama did so much better than any white dem, even those who won nationally. Clinton only won 84-12 among blacks against bob dole in '96.

Based on these stats, it's very difficult to believe your assertion that there are more whites voting against Obama because he's black than there are blacks voting for him because of his race.
 
2012-10-28 12:24:44 AM
In the end, this thread shows the mentality of your typical Republican. Instead of looking inward and saying, "What can we do to honestly reach out to black folks," they instead lash out and try to claim WELL DEMOCRATS AND BLACKS ARE RACIST TOO, EVEN MORE THAN WE ARE.

You see it all the time. President Obama loses a debate according to popular opinion - Democratic voters fret and worry and honestly criticize the President's approach. Governor Romney loses a debate according to popular opinion, and OH NO LIBRUL MEDIA IS OUT TO GET US ACTUALLY ROMNEY WON WITH THE SILENT MAJORITY AND THOSE POLL NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING.

This is why the Republicans will continue to marginalize themselves. They dictate to their audience rather than listen to them at all times, no matter what.
 
2012-10-28 12:25:56 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry,


lol wut?
 
2012-10-28 12:26:42 AM

MisterTweak: I came by this thread hoping to find a weak argument to pick apart. Instead I'm just finding a massively target-rich environment for improving my ignore list.


Walked in, 284 posts. Ignored two people -- just two -- went down to 191. Turned off ignore to see what would happen, and saw 389. Almost all of that was people arguing with and fact checking people who at best neither know nor care about the facts and at worst do know the facts because they couldn't be so relentlessly contemptuous of them if they didn't.

I guess there's people who'd look at that and declare success. For myself, I won't even enter troll threads anymore. When someone gets a greenlight by pasting the headline from WND or NewsBusters, I just close the tab and explore Reddit some more.
 
2012-10-28 12:29:03 AM

jesdynf: For myself, I won't even enter troll threads anymore.


You don't, huh?
 
2012-10-28 12:29:23 AM

Mrtraveler01: Debeo Summa Credo: Actually it was 95 percent in 2013 I believe. And statistically, that's a huge increase.

What other news is there from the future?


Oh no, I've said too much! You earthlings weren't supposed to know about the constitutional crisis that will prompt the first ever election do-over next year. Now I have to post a mind erasing laser gif as soon as I figure out the HTML tags. Stay here.

Hold on, I've got a better one: Umm, yeah I'm anticipating Obama will get 95% of the black vote when he runs for dogcatcher in his local district next year after he vacates the white house next january.

/where the hell did I get 2013 from?
 
2012-10-28 12:32:52 AM

Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry,

lol wut?


Sorry, I skipped a few words. it's hard to suggest that the reason for Obama doing so much better than Kerry among blacks was solely because he was a better candidate, because other Dem candidates who were clearly superior to the GOP candidate (like Clinton in '96) did much worse among blacks than Obama did.
 
2012-10-28 12:34:48 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry,

lol wut?

Sorry, I skipped a few words. it's hard to suggest that the reason for Obama doing so much better than Kerry among blacks was solely because he was a better candidate, because other Dem candidates who were clearly superior to the GOP candidate (like Clinton in '96) did much worse among blacks than Obama did.


Obama also posted gains similar or greater amongst Asians and Hispanics. I wonder why that is.
 
2012-10-28 12:44:39 AM

beta_plus: What the party of "not racists" looks like:

[www.lawatchdog.com image 550x350]


oh lordy, that "ooh scary Black Panthers" crap again. Big black men in scary uniforms are loitering suspiciously at every single polling place in the country, every election. [rolls eyes]
 
2012-10-28 12:49:16 AM

Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry,

lol wut?

Sorry, I skipped a few words. it's hard to suggest that the reason for Obama doing so much better than Kerry among blacks was solely because he was a better candidate, because other Dem candidates who were clearly superior to the GOP candidate (like Clinton in '96) did much worse among blacks than Obama did.

Obama also posted gains similar or greater amongst Asians and Hispanics. I wonder why that is.


While you are correct that obama did better among hispanics than kerry, if you compare to how he did againsy the last dem candidate to win he did worse.

Obama beat McCain 95-4 among blacks, 67-31 among Hispanics.

Clinton beat Dole 84-12 among blacks, 73-21 among hispanics. In other words, Obama did MUCH better among blacks than Clinton did, while clinton did significantly better among hispanics.

The only real historic statistical outlier is Obama's performance among blacks.
 
2012-10-28 12:50:50 AM
I'm loving where this thread is trying to go.

White people aren't voting for Romney because he's WHITE, White people are voting for Obama because he's BLACK.

And other related wharrrgaarbl.
 
2012-10-28 01:03:35 AM

whidbey: I'm loving where this thread is trying to go.

White people aren't voting for Romney because he's WHITE, White people are voting for Obama because he's BLACK.

And other related wharrrgaarbl.


And you must be a white Obama for pointing out that white people are voting for Obama...or something like that.
 
2012-10-28 01:05:06 AM

Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

[blog.2modern.com image 340x480]



Since black people are willing to support a politician simply because he's also black means what exactly? Jim Crowe is a-okay or something? Is this suppose to be some sort of justification for something else? That's certainly what you seem to allude to.
 
2012-10-28 01:06:14 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Halli: Debeo Summa Credo: Its hard to suggest that Obama was a much stronger candidate than Kerry,

lol wut?

Sorry, I skipped a few words. it's hard to suggest that the reason for Obama doing so much better than Kerry among blacks was solely because he was a better candidate, because other Dem candidates who were clearly superior to the GOP candidate (like Clinton in '96) did much worse among blacks than Obama did.

Obama also posted gains similar or greater amongst Asians and Hispanics. I wonder why that is.

While you are correct that obama did better among hispanics than kerry, if you compare to how he did againsy the last dem candidate to win he did worse.

Obama beat McCain 95-4 among blacks, 67-31 among Hispanics.

Clinton beat Dole 84-12 among blacks, 73-21 among hispanics. In other words, Obama did MUCH better among blacks than Clinton did, while clinton did significantly better among hispanics.

The only real historic statistical outlier is Obama's performance among blacks.


Huh that 73 number could be considered a statistical outlier. But we were talking about Kerry and 2004. Minorities overall flocked to the Dems. Surely there must be a reason for that.
 
2012-10-28 01:09:32 AM

Halli: Minorities overall flocked to the Dems. Surely there must be a reason for that


Have you heard the way some conservatives talk about them publically? Have you seen the laws enacted that tend to have some sort of negative outcome for minorities? I believe the answer to both of those are 'yes' and the reason they tend to not just flock to Dems, but run far away from Repubs.
 
2012-10-28 01:10:24 AM

PhtoShpHero: whidbey: I'm loving where this thread is trying to go.

White people aren't voting for Romney because he's WHITE, White people are voting for Obama because he's BLACK.

And other related wharrrgaarbl.

And you must be a white Obama for pointing out that white people are voting for Obama...or something like that.


Shut up, Whitey.
 
2012-10-28 01:14:30 AM

whidbey: PhtoShpHero: whidbey: I'm loving where this thread is trying to go.

White people aren't voting for Romney because he's WHITE, White people are voting for Obama because he's BLACK.

And other related wharrrgaarbl.

And you must be a white Obama for pointing out that white people are voting for Obama...or something like that.

Shut up, Whitey.


....this is just what I've learned here in the politics tab, anyway.

/amidoingitright?
//shutting up
 
2012-10-28 01:15:08 AM
The election shouldn't really be about race anyhow. It should be about whether or not you're willing to hand off the car keys to the same type of turdbiscuits that crashed the last one.
 
2012-10-28 01:24:54 AM

Smelly McUgly: In the end, this thread shows the mentality of your typical Republican. Instead of looking inward and saying, "What can we do to honestly reach out to black folks," they instead lash out and try to claim WELL DEMOCRATS AND BLACKS ARE RACIST TOO, EVEN MORE THAN WE ARE.

You see it all the time. President Obama loses a debate according to popular opinion - Democratic voters fret and worry and honestly criticize the President's approach. Governor Romney loses a debate according to popular opinion, and OH NO LIBRUL MEDIA IS OUT TO GET US ACTUALLY ROMNEY WON WITH THE SILENT MAJORITY AND THOSE POLL NUMBERS MEAN NOTHING.

This is why the Republicans will continue to marginalize themselves. They dictate to their audience rather than listen to them at all times, no matter what.


Oh, yeah. In everything. It's always because "they do it too" or "somebody else is doing X" or "we know what the people REALLY want". And, usually, there are enough yup-yups and yes-men surrounding them to assure them of what they want to hear, regardless of what happens.

And regardless of how the election pans out, the same thing will happen: If Obama wins, they've convinced themselves it's because the "liberal media" and Democrat spinmeisters and assorted evildoers have stolen their election, distorted their message and twisted the polls against them. If Romney wins, it will be because their message got out DESPITE those same evil whoevers and somehow got through to their True Believers and etc. etc.

I've been re-reading Hunter Thompson's "Great Shark Hunt" and it's pretty shocking, how much things haven't changed since Nixon was campaigning against Humphrey---and how little things haven't changed since Humphrey was campaigning against McGovern. It's all the same crap.
 
2012-10-28 01:30:08 AM
What does it say about America when half of it's voting citizens favor a party that is constantly belittling women, is racist, pro war, anti infrastructure, anti science, anti evolution, pro creationism, anti labor, and constantly endorse the erosion of educational programs?

Seriously, Americans are the dumbest people in the developed world, you'd have to go to a mud hut in the middle of India to find more ignorance.
 
2012-10-28 01:30:34 AM

Halli: And again...


oi52.tinypic.com

I made that one.

You're welcome ;)
 
2012-10-28 01:33:52 AM

pippi longstocking: What does it say about America when half of it's voting citizens favor a party that is constantly belittling women, is racist, pro war, anti infrastructure, anti science, anti evolution, pro creationism, anti labor, and constantly endorse the erosion of educational programs?


It says that the right wing in America has the best propaganda system in the world. North Korea could learn a thing or two from the GOP.
 
2012-10-28 01:34:09 AM

alltim: Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.

I will not buy this record. It is scratched.


My nipples explode with delight.
 
2012-10-28 01:38:52 AM

Notabunny: alltim: Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.

I will not buy this record. It is scratched.

My nipples explode with delight.


Did you just say titty sprinkles?
 
2012-10-28 01:41:56 AM

whidbey: jesdynf: For myself, I won't even enter troll threads anymore.

You don't, huh?


Well, I was talking about mod trolling, and I don't think this thread counted.
 
2012-10-28 01:45:09 AM
So let me get this straight, fark needed more Alt Trolls so someone went and created one called Silly Jesus and now he just sits and trolls as many threads as he can while trying to boost page counts?

There have been more than one thread proving that is what his job is yet he is allowed to keep posting. I understand marketing dollars are important to keep things going but it gets beyond annoying. It's like when Phil Herup use to run around thread after thread crapping on everything.
 
2012-10-28 01:52:18 AM

FreetardoRivera: Rapmaster2000: Gotfire: [blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

These panties are full of racists.

[blog.demonfactory.com image 600x450]

I can assure you that these panties accept all races. These are real Southern gals. You're only a Soco and Coke away from The Real South.

way too thin to be real southern gals


why has no one mentioned they are bikini bottoms?
 
2012-10-28 01:53:40 AM

BlippityBleep: somebody at work was flabbergasted when i said i thought a picture was in asia somewhere because of the decor and an asian was in the photograph. she said i shouldn't say 'asian' when describing a person. wtf ever.


Actually she had it exactly wrong; people are Asian, stuff is orential.
 
2012-10-28 01:54:43 AM

Notabunny: alltim: Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.

I will not buy this record. It is scratched.

My nipples explode with delight.


Drop your panties, Sir William. I cannot wait until lunchtime.
 
2012-10-28 01:59:03 AM

Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?


Looks like you waited a month after account creation to start trolling.
 
2012-10-28 02:08:10 AM

alltim: Notabunny: alltim: Mentat: My hovercraft is full of eels.

I will not buy this record. It is scratched.

My nipples explode with delight.

Drop your panties, Sir William. I cannot wait until lunchtime.


You have beautiful thighs.
 
2012-10-28 02:12:51 AM

log_jammin: It says that the right wing in America has the best propaganda system in the world. North Korea could learn a thing or two from the GOP.


Best Korea has bestester photoshoopers.
 
2012-10-28 02:32:47 AM

Funk Brothers: Powell only endorsed Obama cause he's just him. It's going to bite back when Romney wins.


Translation: you've already set up your login for Nov 7th
 
2012-10-28 02:38:25 AM
If you are voting Republican, and are not a very wealthy white male, you are voting against your self-interest. Whether that's because of racism or good ol' fashioned stupidity is irrelevant.

/Will be voting for Democrats on the national level, and the most liberal candidates I can find at the local level.
 
2012-10-28 02:44:01 AM

a_bilge_monkey: CreamFilling: It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.

I'm going to jump out on a limb here, and speculate that you're talking about Clarence Thomas. Two words my friend, Thurgood Marshall.


Do you know how I know you don't know a damn thing about Thurgood Marshall's career?

Or are you going to claim arguing for seperate-but-equal isn't equal is on par with a pubic hair on a coke can?

Please, please, I beg you, argue Clarence Thomas is a Constitutional scholar on par with Thurgood Marshall.

Please. Seriously.
 
2012-10-28 02:49:21 AM

Alphax: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Looks like you waited a month after account creation to start trolling.


bbsimg.ngfiles.com

And speaking of trolls, look at which former Fark troll has derailed a thread over at the Guardian today and gotten lots of bites. Just scroll down to the furst comment:

Link 

/best part ... forever
//That stupid sunovabiatch at least appears to be capitalising the first words in his sentences now
///The Guardian US Election threads have been absolutely packed full of derp from American trolls over the last few weeks.
 
2012-10-28 02:53:37 AM

Trapper439: Alphax: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Looks like you waited a month after account creation to start trolling.

[bbsimg.ngfiles.com image 250x264]

And speaking of trolls, look at which former Fark troll has derailed a thread over at the Guardian today and gotten lots of bites. Just scroll down to the furst comment:

Link 

/best part ... forever
//That stupid sunovabiatch at least appears to be capitalising the first words in his sentences now
///The Guardian US Election threads have been absolutely packed full of derp from American trolls over the last few weeks.


that's hilarious!
 
2012-10-28 02:55:01 AM

Vectron: indylaw: Vectron: I get tired of knee jerk white liberals. God, they love themselves their black people.

THAT'S what you're bringing? "N****r-lover"? Go fark yourself with a pineapple, you racist turd.


You sound like scumbag, cockroach lawyer, putting words in someone's mouth. Go chase an ambulance. Or better yet do some pro bono work for a whore and get your blowjob.


bye
 
2012-10-28 03:03:05 AM

TheBigJerk: people HONESTLY BELIEVE they aren't being racist. They take their racism and shove it so far down into their subconscious that they can't even recognize it


Thank you for posting this, especially on Fark. It needs to be said more often and discussed. After some reading and talking to people of minority races, I was able to finally see how I had prejudices embedded within myself. Before that I would have sworn up and down that no such conditioning (social programming) existed in me. Then I became motivated to learn more about what it feels like to be on the other side of the equation.
 
2012-10-28 03:11:01 AM

skullkrusher: , said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA


I have some very intelligent, very conservative friends. Their positions are extremely well reasoned.

They just are based on assumptions that are contradicted by well established evidence, but they relentlessly ignore such evidence. If pressed they will insist the main stream media (which does not include the highest rated news network or 90% of talk radio) is wrong.

I like them. I like you. I cannot fathom why intelligent people remain so willfully - note, willfully - ignorant.
 
2012-10-28 03:17:58 AM

TreeHugger: TheBigJerk: people HONESTLY BELIEVE they aren't being racist. They take their racism and shove it so far down into their subconscious that they can't even recognize it

Thank you for posting this, especially on Fark. It needs to be said more often and discussed. After some reading and talking to people of minority races, I was able to finally see how I had prejudices embedded within myself. Before that I would have sworn up and down that no such conditioning (social programming) existed in me. Then I became motivated to learn more about what it feels like to be on the other side of the equation.


I was just talking about this scenario with the husband the other day. How can you get through to people who are genuinely good people but who don't see that they are prejudiced? And I'm not saying that I'm not prejudiced - I am, it's the way we are all programmed in our society - but I acknowledge my prejudices and I actively work against them.

It seems like the white people I know either 'get it' or they don't when it comes to race. Those who don't get it really believe that they are suffering from reverse racism, etc.

HOW did you come to see that you were prejudiced? And is there a way we can replicate that experience on a mass scale?
 
2012-10-28 03:20:49 AM
Does anyone else use the abbreviation "AfAm" or is it just this one idiot?
 
2012-10-28 03:24:32 AM

TaterTot_HotDish: It seems like the white people I know either 'get it' or they don't when it comes to race. Those who don't get it really believe that they are suffering from reverse racism, etc.

HOW did you come to see that you were prejudiced? And is there a way we can replicate that experience on a mass scale?



I think the only way people like that will ever "get it" is to see someone they know and respect/love/care about be effected by racism.
 
2012-10-28 03:28:23 AM

TreeHugger: TheBigJerk: people HONESTLY BELIEVE they aren't being racist. They take their racism and shove it so far down into their subconscious that they can't even recognize it

Thank you for posting this, especially on Fark. It needs to be said more often and discussed. After some reading and talking to people of minority races, I was able to finally see how I had prejudices embedded within myself. Before that I would have sworn up and down that no such conditioning (social programming) existed in me. Then I became motivated to learn more about what it feels like to be on the other side of the equation.


You can become like me. I'm not prejudiced: I hate everyone.
 
2012-10-28 04:00:46 AM

log_jammin: TaterTot_HotDish: It seems like the white people I know either 'get it' or they don't when it comes to race. Those who don't get it really believe that they are suffering from reverse racism, etc.

HOW did you come to see that you were prejudiced? And is there a way we can replicate that experience on a mass scale?


I think the only way people like that will ever "get it" is to see someone they know and respect/love/care about be effected by racism.


that's the conclusion we came to, as well. Which is a little disheartening when you think that the people I'm talking about don't tend to be friends with anyone from a different race. Well, except for the one "black friend" that they have to prove to themselves they're not racist, of course
 
2012-10-28 04:01:49 AM
I could give a flying fark whether black people are voting for Obama because he's black. When you are brought to a country in chains, watch your children taken from you and sold to the highest bidder, remain second-class citizens after emancipation, are forced to drink from separate drinking fountains, use different bathrooms and send your children to inferior schools, and are not allowed to vote for generations - all because of the color of your skin - then I have no problem with you voting for a president whose skin is the same color as yours.

The election of the first black POTUS was/is historic and important, and I applaud black Americans for wanting to be a part of it. Obama's election was a big farking deal.

Anyone who believes that a black person voting for Obama because he's black and a white person voting for Romney because he's white are in any way morally equivalent is a racist.
 
2012-10-28 04:16:22 AM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: The election of the first black POTUS was/is historic and important, and I applaud black Americans for wanting to be a part of it. Obama's election was a big farking deal.

Anyone who believes that a black person voting for Obama because he's black and a white person voting for Romney because he's white are in any way morally equivalent is a racist.


+1
 
2012-10-28 04:52:05 AM
Just as a reminder because this has swayed into Trollivia.

A Republican said that his party is full of racists.

Full... of... racists... Repulicans


Just making sure we stay on point here... because a Republican admitting anything is wrong with their party is pretty farking rare and this is a big thing to admit.
 
2012-10-28 04:54:31 AM

JohnnyC: A Republican said that his party is full of racists.


Not just "a republican", but a republic that was in the Bush White House.
 
2012-10-28 04:58:20 AM

Trapper439: Alphax: Vectron: If this guy is right, why is it that any black person can walk through and white neighborhood safely while a white person cannot walk through a black neighborhood safely?

Looks like you waited a month after account creation to start trolling.

[bbsimg.ngfiles.com image 250x264]

And speaking of trolls, look at which former Fark troll has derailed a thread over at the Guardian today and gotten lots of bites. Just scroll down to the furst comment:

Link 

/best part ... forever
//That stupid sunovabiatch at least appears to be capitalising the first words in his sentences now
///The Guardian US Election threads have been absolutely packed full of derp from American trolls over the last few weeks.


I read the actual article first.. a very smart and well informed article.

So WW is following Romney's lead and embarrasing himself overseas? Joy.
 
2012-10-28 05:17:40 AM

log_jammin: JohnnyC: A Republican said that his party is full of racists.

Not just "a republican", but a republic that was in the Bush White House.


True.

And while I applaud him for having the guts to come right out and say that, I'm having a very hard time figuring out how the problem gets fixed. Most Republicans won't even admit it to themselves... and if they can't admit the problem; they certainly can't fix it. But in general, I don't see a clear path to reducing or eliminating racism from our society and culture.
 
2012-10-28 05:24:06 AM

intelligent comment below: I don't know one position of Colin Powell that is Republican besides the fact of the old myth that the military always votes GOP


You know it wasn't him, but one of his former aides, Lawrence Wilkerson, who said it, right? Powell was a moderate Republican from his time. The modern Republican party has moved so far towards the extreme that at this point Powell would look downright liberal today... He was very much a Republican, but Republicans just aren't what they used to be.
 
2012-10-28 05:33:51 AM

stoli n coke: JerkStore: Yes. Yes it is.

We're all racist in some way or another. People who claim they don't see color are liars, we all see it and it affects us in some way. Most of us actively work to overcome these parts of ourselves and it makes us ashamed to have these thoughts. Others, not so much. So I have this idea that all these distractions about Obama are just reasons that racists have to make it OK to hate him. They can't say he's a bad president because he's black, but it's perfectly OK for them to hate him because he's a socialist. So they have concocted all these lies about who he is and what he's done so they feel justified in hating him so they don't have to admit they just don't like the black guy in the White House.

That became apparent the day after the 2008 election, when republicans suddenly became concerned over the economy at the same time.


Not living in the US, I didn't see much of their turnaround on the economy. What really showed through, though, was how all the claims that "criticizing the president during wartime is giving aid and comfort to the enemy" vanished overnight.
 
2012-10-28 05:35:32 AM

Vectron: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

At least Mitt tries.


You're right. I can't recall a single instance of Obama speaking to white people.
 
2012-10-28 05:48:17 AM

whidbey: Vectron: I hit the smart buttton for that.
This "racist" thing is just a club to hit Republicans with. Its a guilt trip.

Not sure if stupid, ignorant, or just racist yourself.


Nah, just pathetic.
 
2012-10-28 06:35:50 AM

TaterTot_HotDish: TreeHugger: TheBigJerk: people HONESTLY BELIEVE they aren't being racist. They take their racism and shove it so far down into their subconscious that they can't even recognize it

Thank you for posting this, especially on Fark. It needs to be said more often and discussed. After some reading and talking to people of minority races, I was able to finally see how I had prejudices embedded within myself. Before that I would have sworn up and down that no such conditioning (social programming) existed in me. Then I became motivated to learn more about what it feels like to be on the other side of the equation.

I was just talking about this scenario with the husband the other day. How can you get through to people who are genuinely good people but who don't see that they are prejudiced? And I'm not saying that I'm not prejudiced - I am, it's the way we are all programmed in our society - but I acknowledge my prejudices and I actively work against them.

It seems like the white people I know either 'get it' or they don't when it comes to race. Those who don't get it really believe that they are suffering from reverse racism, etc.

HOW did you come to see that you were prejudiced? And is there a way we can replicate that experience on a mass scale?


"What does it take to change the essence of a man?"

If I knew the magic trick to changing a viewpoint I'd rule the world, but I *think* one more-effective method is to point it out in other unrelated people and work your way in. Slide in edgeways with the black guy who hates the chinese or the atheist who hates the religious (that second one plays well with the victim-complex types) and sidle up closer with examples of OTHER white people who "don't see color but never rent to a black man" before pointing out their own subtle cues.
 
2012-10-28 06:49:11 AM
Oh, and I don't know the answer to the other question. Morality plays and upbringing led me to believe that one should never lie to oneself, a random class in social psychology taught me we're all secretly sheeple (and taught me the proper terms for subconscious racism, which I promptly forgot), and I have always been taught that an American should struggle against that herding instinct.

Enough complicated thoughts of philosophy and psychology! Hatred is the emperor's greatest gift to humanity!

i75.photobucket.com

Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.

FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
 
2012-10-28 06:59:47 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


Voting with your vagina? Weird tradition....just make sure you clean the lever off for the next person.
 
2012-10-28 07:19:40 AM
Lawrence Wilkerson

That's as far as I needed to read.
 
2012-10-28 08:02:50 AM

Granny_Panties: FACT: Every openly racist person I know votes Republican.


That's not true in my case; I've known openly racist Democrats.

However, I'm afraid I can't think of a single Republican I know who hasn't made openly racist statements at one point or another. Some of them are pretty good friends, and overall, very reasonable and good people. So it pains me to hear the stuff.
 
2012-10-28 08:37:34 AM

Cubicle Jockey: It's in the eternally ignorant and backwards South...


That's it... let your bigotry out. You'll feel better.
 
2012-10-28 08:39:27 AM

CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry


I'm nit even sure what that means but it sounds very, very disturbing. My condolences on your family going off the rails.
 
2012-10-28 09:09:31 AM
s16.postimage.org
 
2012-10-28 09:29:38 AM

Gordon Bennett: CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry

I'm nit even sure what that means but it sounds very, very disturbing. My condolences on your family going off the rails.


I do understand hun,

My family (sisters, both BIL, many cousins) have ostracized myself and my kids for our "Libtard Traitor to Dad's Memory" views.

Many of the same cousins boycotted my late wife's funeral because she was a tireless Democrat.

I've also been "shunned" for, and I quote: "Poisoning your nephew's mind." He's 32 and I moved away in 1987 fer Chrissakes!

/You can pick your nose and your friends but you can't pick your family
 
2012-10-28 09:35:35 AM

G.I.R.B.: Gordon Bennett: CapeFearCadaver: Yep. And if I were to go up to my estranged Father and tell him that the only reason he's voting for Romney is because he's white...

Can everyone just shut the fark up? Peas? And carrots too?

/miss my family, but I'm 'doing the devil's work by voting with my vagina'; so, I don't know that I'll ever speak with them again after this...
//fark you Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Tea Party, etc for ruining what used to be a decent family. Now I have no one.
///5th beer today, sorry

I'm nit even sure what that means but it sounds very, very disturbing. My condolences on your family going off the rails.

I do understand hun,

My family (sisters, both BIL, many cousins) have ostracized myself and my kids for our "Libtard Traitor to Dad's Memory" views.

Many of the same cousins boycotted my late wife's funeral because she was a tireless Democrat.

I've also been "shunned" for, and I quote: "Poisoning your nephew's mind." He's 32 and I moved away in 1987 fer Chrissakes!

/You can pick your nose and your friends but you can't pick your family


I was written out my grandparent's will because I supported Obama. Not that I would need the money but still, kinda dick move.
 
2012-10-28 09:38:23 AM

MisterRonbo: skullkrusher: , said the guy in charge of running this year's Northeastern Neo-Nazi Potluck Dinner and Blind Auction Charity Event

/DNRTFA

I have some very intelligent, very conservative friends. Their positions are extremely well reasoned.

They just are based on assumptions that are contradicted by well established evidence, but they relentlessly ignore such evidence. If pressed they will insist the main stream media (which does not include the highest rated news network or 90% of talk radio) is wrong.

I like them. I like you. I cannot fathom why intelligent people remain so willfully - note, willfully - ignorant.


do your friends not make jokes about obvious new stories?
 
2012-10-28 10:34:51 AM
hypervocal.com
abcnews.go.com 

/It's not racist, it's patriotism.
 
2012-10-28 10:41:14 AM
legalinsurrection.com

We're going to burn an upper case T on his lawn.

For TIME TO LEAVE! 


/Vote Romney
//I've got rapes to commit and I don't want to be charged.
 
2012-10-28 10:45:47 AM

G.I.R.B.: My family (sisters, both BIL, many cousins) have ostracized myself and my kids for our "Libtard Traitor to Dad's Memory" views.

Many of the same cousins boycotted my late wife's funeral because she was a tireless Democrat.


I've lost three old friends for the same reason, but compared to you and CapeFearCadaver I've gotten off pretty easy. How is it even possible for politics to ruin longstanding personal relationships? This is so farking stupid. 

/"And you know that I could have me a million more friends / and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." ~John Prine
 
2012-10-28 11:43:41 AM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

The man is correct. The Republican power base -- i.e., most of the rich people in the U.S. -- cannot pull in enough votes on its own to win elections. So, they go after the right-wing kooks, which include the "conservative" religious zealots and the white supremacist bigots (those are not mutually exclusive btw) and a vast majority of the undereducated hotheads. I don't believe in my heart that the true core of the Republican party really likes having most of these idiots in their constituency, but from a vote-count perspective they really have no choice but to court them. I would think that most of the real leadership in the Republican party finds a significant portion of their constituency to be repugnant at best. They see it as a necessary evil.


And they are in the process of getting what they deserve for striking a bargain like that - along with a lot of other slimy bargains - just so their team can win the Big Game. And in a few more years the "true core" will have been crowded out entirely by the scumbags they brought in.

/can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding
 
2012-10-28 11:46:54 AM
Silly Jesus and Vectron are the same troll. What's worse, a possible mod.
 
2012-10-28 11:49:32 AM
Login: Vectron
Account created: 2012-09-28 17:19:06

Protip: When you see someone saying absurdly stupid or offensive things, or in general making an ass of themselves in such a way it generates a large amount of attention...check their profile before replying. They might be a newly created troll account.
 
2012-10-28 12:05:17 PM

Anonymous Bosch: Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people -- not all of them, but most of them -- who are still basing their positions on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists, and the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin, and that's despicable.

The man is correct. The Republican power base -- i.e., most of the rich people in the U.S. -- cannot pull in enough votes on its own to win elections. So, they go after the right-wing kooks, which include the "conservative" religious zealots and the white supremacist bigots (those are not mutually exclusive btw) and a vast majority of the undereducated hotheads. I don't believe in my heart that the true core of the Republican party really likes having most of these idiots in their constituency, but from a vote-count perspective they really have no choice but to court them. I would think that most of the real leadership in the Republican party finds a significant portion of their constituency to be repugnant at best. They see it as a necessary evil.

And they are in the process of getting what they deserve for striking a bargain like that - along with a lot of other slimy bargains - just so their team can win the Big Game. And in a few more years the "true core" will have been crowded out entirely by the scumbags they brought in.

/can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding


Are you saying this is where the Party ends?
 
2012-10-28 12:13:45 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Login: Vectron
Account created: 2012-09-28 17:19:06

Protip: When you see someone saying absurdly stupid or offensive things, or in general making an ass of themselves in such a way it generates a large amount of attention...check their profile before replying. They might be a newly created troll account.


I don't have TF, and I've seen comments where people talk about being banned or having those comments deleted for pointing out who has a troll account. Should I worry about ousting the trolls? I want engaged discussion. To weed out the trolls from the genuinely stupid and offensive people allows us to engage with people who actually should discuss their viewpoints to show justification for them.

I rarely get on the kick of commenting on FARK, but I recently have gotten back into the swing of things. I just don't want to be discouraged about commenting here and engaging with actual people to see their justification, not see their stupid and never hear from them again or defend their comments.
 
2012-10-28 12:42:35 PM
So, been reading the last 200 comments after I passed out last night... sobbing; yet sobbing with a strange mixture of hurt, elation, loneliness and companionship. I just wanted to say that I love all of you.
 
2012-10-28 02:34:28 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: I was written out my grandparent's will because I supported Obama. Not that I would need the money but still, kinda dick move.


Wow! Lots of dysfunctional families out there, by the sound of things.

I disagree on many political topics with my family, but they would never stab me in the back over something like that...

/ that really sucks
 
2012-10-28 02:39:24 PM

Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327] "Not voting for Obama because he's black is racist? Tell me again how voting for him because he is black isn't"


Easy actually, pride in ones race or group is a different thing than hate for another race or group. Lets say for example, you are from New Jersey, and Snookie is running for President. And you vote for Snookie because you love everything Jersey. It doesn't mean you hate the guy who isn't from Jersey. But you have a certain pride for Jersey Shore, and you think Snookie would represent you best and you want her in the Oval Office.
 
2012-10-28 02:42:03 PM

CreamFilling: It is peculiar that Republicans have appointed minorities to the highest non-elected position in the country. I'm sure it's part of a "Some of my best friends are black" defense, but they seem really committed to it.


If you are referring to Clarence Thomas, it was exactly that. Please look up the terms "token" and "Uncle Tom". If you are referring to Colin Powell, he appears to have broken ranks with the Republican party on...well, damn near everything. And when they appointed Michael Steele to be chairman of their party, they promptly ignored him and made him apologize when he said that Rush Limbaugh did not speak for the Republican Party.
 
2012-10-28 03:01:09 PM

sugardave: And they are in the process of getting what they deserve for striking a bargain like that - along with a lot of other slimy bargains - just so their team can win the Big Game. And in a few more years the "true core" will have been crowded out entirely by the scumbags they brought in.


Numerically, they already are and have been for some time. From a long ago thread, "People like Palin were supposed to be the base, not on the ticket."

/can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding

Are you saying this is where the Party ends?


Another article made the point that, demographically, this is the last time the Republican party can possibly hope to win an election on the white vote alone, and they know it. So, yes, in order for the GOP to continue to exist on a national level, it would have to become something totally different and repugnant to most of its current membership.

But then, the Dems have been there--"Democrat" used to mean something entirely different in the former Confederacy than it meant in New England. Now those "problem children" are firmly ensconced in the GOP. Well played, actually.
 
2012-10-28 03:21:25 PM

Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]


One is a question of racism based on hatred of another race, while the other is an example of "racism" based on hope, and on seeing a representative of their long-repressed race succeed. But the latter isn't "racism" with its negative connotations of hate like the former is.

Just like how women pointing to successful female pioneers in politics and business isn't sexism, but denying women rights based on the fact that they are women would be.
 
2012-10-28 07:16:09 PM

Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.


1. citation needed.
2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark.
 
2012-10-28 07:21:05 PM

burning_bridge: Silly Jesus: CreamFilling: stoli n coke: The actual statistics have shown the overwhelming majority of African Americans have voted Democratic since Kennedy and LBJ. May have had something to do with the whole "pushing for and signing the civil rights act" deal.

Those are the statistics for people who voted. The actual percentage of eligible African Americans who voted at all was barely above 50%. Certainly not an overwhelming majority of African Americans as a whole voting for any particular party. In 2008, the number of eligible African Americans who voted jumped 20%. Of course you can't ascribe any one motivation to why African American turnout suddenly leaped in 2008, but you'd have to be absolutely farking stupid to believe that race wasn't a factor.

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Since black people are willing to support a politician simply because he's also black means what exactly? Jim Crowe is a-okay or something? Is this suppose to be some sort of justification for something else? That's certainly what you seem to allude to.


Was just pointing out that reverse racism is still racism. Lots of libs disagree with that assertion, obviously.
 
2012-10-28 07:23:42 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: So let me get this straight, fark needed more Alt Trolls so someone went and created one called Silly Jesus and now he just sits and trolls as many threads as he can while trying to boost page counts?

There have been more than one thread proving that is what his job is yet he is allowed to keep posting. I understand marketing dollars are important to keep things going but it gets beyond annoying. It's like when Phil Herup use to run around thread after thread crapping on everything.


It's weird to hear ideas outside of your echo chamber, isn't it? It's interesting that the result is lashing out with absurd conspiracy theories. I thought libby libs were better than that.

Anywho, carry on with your complaining.

Love you long time.
 
2012-10-28 07:26:18 PM

MindStalker: Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327] "Not voting for Obama because he's black is racist? Tell me again how voting for him because he is black isn't"


Easy actually, pride in ones race or group is a different thing than hate for another race or group. Lets say for example, you are from New Jersey, and Snookie is running for President. And you vote for Snookie because you love everything Jersey. It doesn't mean you hate the guy who isn't from Jersey. But you have a certain pride for Jersey Shore, and you think Snookie would represent you best and you want her in the Oval Office.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-28 07:27:11 PM

The Great Gazoo: Silly Jesus: [ct.fra.bz image 311x327]

One is a question of racism based on hatred of another race, while the other is an example of "racism" based on hope, and on seeing a representative of their long-repressed race succeed. But the latter isn't "racism" with its negative connotations of hate like the former is.

Just like how women pointing to successful female pioneers in politics and business isn't sexism, but denying women rights based on the fact that they are women would be.


Fair enough. Sort of...
 
2012-10-28 11:53:35 PM

Silly Jesus: Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.

1. citation needed.
2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark incredibly dishonest because although both things exist, they occur on vastly different scales, but by artifically equating them I can attempt to make my own contemptable positions appear slightly less so.

 
2012-10-29 07:16:47 AM

Jorn the Younger: Silly Jesus: Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.

1. citation needed.
2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark incredibly dishonest because although both things exist, they occur on vastly different scales, but by artifically equating them I can attempt to make my own contemptable positions appear slightly less so.


citation needed

Also, please tell me what my own contemptible position is?
 
2012-10-29 07:31:12 AM

Silly Jesus: Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.

1. citation needed.
2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark.


2008
2004

Notice that the racial breakdown is virtually identical, meaning there wasn't a significant change in a single racial demographic.

Not only that, but Obama did better with ALL RACES than Kerry. So it's curious that you singled out the black demographic, and are so ready to believe that only did better among the blacks, and don't see any differences between "for" and "against".
 
2012-10-29 07:41:52 AM

Silly Jesus: Jorn the Younger: Silly Jesus: 2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark incredibly dishonest because although both things exist, they occur on vastly different scales, but by artifically equating them I can attempt to make my own contemptable positions appear slightly less so.

citation needed


Primaries

Select a state, click 'exit polls' and one of the questions is "How Important was race?" and you can see the difference in those voting for Hillary and those voting for Obama.

General

And this is for the general election.
 
2012-10-29 05:42:53 PM

Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Dan the Schman: Silly Jesus: Halli: Silly Jesus: Jesus Christ...this isn't that difficult. I'm talking about the number of AfAm's who voted at all increasing by 20%. Prior to 2008, there were 20% fewer AfAm votes cast.

You have a citation for that?

Oh wait some other guy just said it earlier and you are just copying his post. I'm sure you will deliver.

Yeah, I shouldn't have taken his word for it. Was closer to 5%. Still significant though.

Aside from the fact that a 5% increase isn't that significant, and that ALL demographics were up, the fact remains that the number of people who vote "for" Obama because he's black have never, and will never, approach the number of people who vote "against" Obama because he's black.

And yet, curiously, you're oh so concerned about the former form of "racism" rather than the latter.

1. citation needed.
2. I'm not concerned about one more than the other...I'm merely equating the two...which is evidently contentious here at Fark.

2008
2004

Notice that the racial breakdown is virtually identical, meaning there wasn't a significant change in a single racial demographic.

Not only that, but Obama did better with ALL RACES than Kerry. So it's curious that you singled out the black demographic, and are so ready to believe that only did better among the blacks, and don't see any differences between "for" and "against".


I suppose that a good bit of anecdotal evidence may have skewed my perception.
 
2012-10-30 11:58:59 AM
Well I guess it ain't yo party no mo.
 
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