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2012-10-27 04:15:38 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: You can argue that things could be better...


There's little doubt about it. The Reagan recovery was much better, all it took was flooding the economy with massive stimulus washed through the military. It's arguably part of Robney's deep concern with 1916.
 
2012-10-27 04:15:58 PM  

Bontesla: Where do you


Honestly, I'd like to see him put his money where his mouth is. After losing the election, Romney should position himself to take over a failing company like Kodak or HP or Amtrak. Let's see if he actually has the business skills that he claims he does, or if that was all just BS too.

Then in ten years, whenever Biff or Thwack or whatever his son's name is runs for office, he can talk about the business success of both his father and his grandfather.
 
2012-10-27 04:17:00 PM  
You can make a case that someone else would have done better. You can make a case that Obama is actually impeding the recover.

You cannot make a case that things are worse today than they were at this point in 2008 and expect to be taken remotely seriously
 
2012-10-27 04:17:02 PM  
What "new evidence" of a failing economy are they referring to?
 
2012-10-27 04:17:04 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: He's trying to appeal to mouthbreathers who will insist that "Obama's already raised taxes higher than they've been in American history" so it's a fairly target-rich environment.


But they are already going to vote for him.
 
2012-10-27 04:17:09 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I just got a 24% pay raise, so I'm getting a real kick out of the derp in this thread...


Lol, I just got a promotion and a good deal more money too... and the company I work for is way better than the one I was with a year ago. The GOP can cry doom all they want, after 8 years of Bush, I just don't believe any of their wolf cries any more.
 
2012-10-27 04:17:52 PM  

Mrbogey: neenerist: Get out there and short those stocks

The stock market, despite the derp from simple minded folks who think they're economic geniuses because they read a blog, is not a direct bellweather to the US economy. It will shift, shrink, and grow based upon specific market influences.

The economy will always recover. It's just a matter of how long and when. Obama's policies just aren't designed to grow economies. Steve Jobs knew it. CEO's who aren't trying to grift money from the gov't know it. Yet Obama's supporters don't.

Talk about optimistically ignorant.


The secret is even more tax cuts. It will totally work this time.
 
2012-10-27 04:18:48 PM  

BSABSVR: robsul82: shower_in_my_socks: 74% odds based on 538's model, which is better than Obama's chances were before the DNC.

Yeah, but he "looked thin and seemed effeminate" on Bill Maher's show last night, so he's a total liar and his math sucks. So say the usual suspects in RW online media, anyway.

Does anyone know how manly Sam Wang is? I need to know if I can trust him.


His name is Wang. What else do you need to know?
 
2012-10-27 04:18:53 PM  

FlashHarry: the economy is demonstrably better than when obama took office by every single measure. how the fark does this asshole get away with lying like that? why doesn't the press tell the truth?


They might be accused of being liberal.
 
2012-10-27 04:19:27 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: You can argue that things could be better or that things aren't improving quickly enough, but those are subjective judgments.

To flatly state that the economy has gotten worse in any objective sense is absolute bullshiat.


I farking hate hearing those arguments (I'm not saying you're making it, just commenting on your observation).

When we have access to this hypothetical parallel universe where McCain won the election, we can compare notes on how he did or didn't improve the economy.

Until then, Obama was handed a shiat sandwich by the Bush administration, and by most accounts, the economy is improving. By any account, he made NO disastrous decisions that made things worse. I can't say I believe the same would have been true of a McCain administration (based on his advisors and the positions of the Republicans the past four years).
 
2012-10-27 04:19:55 PM  
Romney openly lied on matters he did not understand. Again, and again, and again. He is literally clueless.
 
2012-10-27 04:20:38 PM  

firefly212: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I just got a 24% pay raise, so I'm getting a real kick out of the derp in this thread...

Lol, I just got a promotion and a good deal more money too... and the company I work for is way better than the one I was with a year ago. The GOP can cry doom all they want, after 8 years of Bush, I just don't believe any of their wolf cries any more.


That sucks. I got ripped off with only an 18% pay rise, doubling my vacation time, and much better benefits. I should try harder I guess.

We and all our customers are typically doing 200% better than we were doing in 2008.
 
2012-10-27 04:21:22 PM  
Old GOP talking point: Obama crashed the economy! Look at the stock market!

New GOP talking point: The stock market doesn't matter.
 
2012-10-27 04:22:15 PM  

Fart_Machine: The secret is even more tax cuts. It will totally work this time.


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/car elevators for the 1%, austerity for the rest
 
2012-10-27 04:23:45 PM  

Mrbogey: neenerist: Get out there and short those stocks

The stock market, despite the derp from simple minded folks who think they're economic geniuses ...Talk about optimistically ignorant..


That's your claim not mine, so props on a rare moment of honesty. You claim to know the businesses the Obama government seeded are doomed to bankruptcy. Shorting is almost guaranteed money.
Maybe you're unaware of the difference between individual stocks and index funds?
 
2012-10-27 04:24:16 PM  
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Republican solution:

1. Invade Iraq.
2. Create TSA.

"Making the problem worse"? Naaaaw, it's FREEDOMISM.
 
2012-10-27 04:24:35 PM  

BSABSVR: You can make a case that someone else would have done better. You can make a case that Obama is actually impeding the recover.

You cannot make a case that things are worse today than they were at this point in 2008 and expect to be taken remotely seriously


Empirical evidence is not required in Derpistan. It confuses the populace.
 
2012-10-27 04:25:10 PM  

Fart_Machine: Old GOP talking point: Obama crashed the economy! Look at the stock market!

New GOP talking point: The stock market doesn't matter.


But..but...gas prices!!! Solydra! We have to save the banks and let Detroit fail!!!

I mean, the GOP surely has had plenty of ideas that have been stifled by the President. It's not like they have based the last 4 years on "ensuring Obama is a one-term President".

/Hey, where did those quotation marks come from?
 
2012-10-27 04:25:20 PM  

BSABSVR: You can make a case that someone else would have done better. You can make a case that Obama is actually impeding the recover.

You cannot make a case that things are worse today than they were at this point in 2008 and expect to be taken remotely seriously


I just spent the better part of this week in FitzWalkerstan, WI. Not a day went by without hearing that we're worse off than we were four years ago. So don't be surprised that they keep spouting this bullshiat when half the voting populace believes it.
 
2012-10-27 04:25:23 PM  
I truly wonder how much of the bullshiat Romney talks about he actually believes. There is no way he is this ignorant about how economics and politics work, is there?
 
2012-10-27 04:28:10 PM  
you know what, fark you romney. Just personally, I've gotten a decent new job, am getting another degree, and am closing on a house this wednesday. I'm much better off than I was on jan 19th 2008. but I guess since I don't make enough to pay income tax and have taken advantage of pell grants, and local home-buyer grants I'm a horrible leech on society.

fark you with a rusty spoon, you've never had to work for anything for a day in your life. you've never worried about where you were going to sleep. Never had to pick between a meal, and enough gas to get to work. How anyone who isn't a trust fund baby can vote for this fark I'll never understand.
 
2012-10-27 04:30:55 PM  

BSABSVR: robsul82: shower_in_my_socks: 74% odds based on 538's model, which is better than Obama's chances were before the DNC.

Yeah, but he "looked thin and seemed effeminate" on Bill Maher's show last night, so he's a total liar and his math sucks. So say the usual suspects in RW online media, anyway.

Does anyone know how manly Sam Wang is? I need to know if I can trust him.


His last name is Wang, which I'm pretty sure is Chinese for penis.
 
2012-10-27 04:31:19 PM  

max_pooper: neenerist: tenpoundsofcheese: As he pointed out in two debates:

The economy is worse this year than last year.
And it was worse last year than the year before.

We are moving in the wrong direction (e.g. NOT FORWARD)

Surely you have the data to back him? Shirley?

www.unskewedjobreports.com
www.unskewedGDPreports.com
www.unskewedDJIAreports.com
www.unskewedpenismeasurements.com


www.unskewedPMIAreports.com
www.unskewedUFIAreports.com
www.unskewedATMreports.com
www.unskewedgoatsereports.com
 
2012-10-27 04:31:32 PM  
Romney was unsparing in his criticism of the man he hopes to unseat. "Despite all that he inherited, President Obama did not repair our economy, he did not save Medicare and Social Security, he did not tame the spending and borrowing..."

This is like saying despite his two broken legs, the runner still didn't win.

Romney is a liar AND a moron.
 
2012-10-27 04:32:48 PM  
10,230 comments on that Yahoo news stories and the handful I looked at were mostly derptastic.
 
2012-10-27 04:33:25 PM  

Thigvald the Big-Balled: max_pooper: neenerist: tenpoundsofcheese: As he pointed out in two debates:

The economy is worse this year than last year.
And it was worse last year than the year before.

We are moving in the wrong direction (e.g. NOT FORWARD)

Surely you have the data to back him? Shirley?

www.unskewedjobreports.com
www.unskewedGDPreports.com
www.unskewedDJIAreports.com
www.unskewedpenismeasurements.com

www.unskewedPMIAreports.com
www.unskewedUFIAreports.com
www.unskewedATMreports.com
www.unskewedgoatsereports.com


these days I have to ask, are those all real?
 
2012-10-27 04:34:23 PM  

NFA: Good GOD Romney is a lying f*cktard.


But it's working. Nearly half the country voters believe him.
 
2012-10-27 04:34:35 PM  
ftfa: Romney personalized his message at Friday's final campaign stop on frigid night in North Canton, Ohio: "How many single moms these days are scrimping and saving so they can put a good meal on the table at the end of the day for their kids?" Romney asked with Ryan at his side, later adding, "It's time to have a president and a vice president who care more about the people than care about politics.

Wait, what?

Vote for the GOP because they CARE MOAR?

Who the fark do they think they are kidding with that shiat?

Same with them playing the "the real problem is that Obama and the Dems haven't been bipartisan enough" card.

Republicans view compassion and empathy as weakness as a rule and the GOP in Congress, particularly the Teahadists of 2010, have been the most partisan, radical, obstructive politicians in living memory.

Every. Word. They. Say. Is. A. Lie.
 
2012-10-27 04:35:31 PM  
One of the greatest days in all of our lives will come when we no longer have to entertain the delusional ramblings of this crackpot. Please sweet FSM, may that day come next Tuesday.
 
2012-10-27 04:35:52 PM  

Mrbogey: The stock market, despite the derp from simple minded folks who think they're economic geniuses because they read a blog, is not a direct bellweather to the US economy. It will shift, shrink, and grow based upon specific market influences.

The economy will always recover.


And this is how you know the far right is scrambling. When they resort to "Things would be better anyway! Don't give the current guy credit!" they know they're farked.

Do you ever look at yourself and realize that you're hoping things get worse for you, your friends and your family just so Mitt Romney can have his lollipop? Or would really looking at that truth be too much for your fragile psyche?
 
2012-10-27 04:36:05 PM  

clkeagle: Bontesla: Where do you

Honestly, I'd like to see him put his money where his mouth is. After losing the election, Romney should position himself to take over a failing company like Kodak or HP or Amtrak. Let's see if he actually has the business skills that he claims he does, or if that was all just BS too.

Then in ten years, whenever Biff or Thwack or whatever his son's name is runs for office, he can talk about the business success of both his father and his grandfather.


It's like he named his kids after the sound effects in Adam West's "Batman" series.

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2012-10-27 04:36:34 PM  

Mrbogey: Obama's policies just aren't designed to grow economies.


How so? Name specific policies that somehow inhibit growth.

In what way could Obama's policies be different? What alternative would you have instead?

Please provide specifics, details, and citations.
 
2012-10-27 04:36:46 PM  

quatchi: Vote for the GOP because they CARE MOAR?

Who the fark do they think they are kidding with that shiat?


Well, "compassionate conservatism" has won them previous elections. Never mind that they're thieves and murderers.
 
2012-10-27 04:38:21 PM  
, President Obama 'made the problem worse' (news.yahoo.com)

Bullsh*t.

What made "the problem worse" is the incessant social conservatism of the Republican Party and the Blue Dog conservatives.

And you farking know it.
 
2012-10-27 04:39:07 PM  

EvilEgg: NFA: Yes Mr. Romney, fixing the Bush job loss hemorrhage of over 1 million American jobs lost per month, lowering unemployment and doubling the stock market is worse than the financial collapse we had after 8 years of Republican mismanagement.

Sure, a collapsed economy with huge corporations going bankrupt nearly daily, tent cities loaded with homeless children, millions of Americans losing their life savings and retirement funds was MUCH more desirable than what we have now.

Good GOD Romney is a lying f*cktard.

Well, if you are still obscenely wealthy, that scenario is more desirable. You can get servants so much cheaper.


That's the interesting problem though. The end goal of the neo-aristocrats is the revival of feudalism, but they have literally NO PLAN for how to keep the nation, nay the WORLD policed and the peasants controlled when they finally "drown government in the bathtub." They don't have stockpiles of weapons, they don't have loyal paramilitary "bannermen" to guard their properties, they often don't have a plan for when existing currency ceases to have value, they just think the system they actively try to destroy will somehow still be there forever for them to exploit and attack.
 
2012-10-27 04:41:38 PM  
no no no, you all misunderstood Mittens.

It could have been better, so Obama made the better worse by making it not as betterer as it wa when it was worse.

I think...
 
2012-10-27 04:42:44 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Lando Lincoln: He's such a lying sack of shiat. I cannot fathom how anybody would see that this guy would make a decent President.

There are those that believe the lies, no matter how blatantly obvious they are


Even the worst band in the universe has groupies.
 
2012-10-27 04:43:39 PM  
Here in NC the GOP PAC ads are running nearly non-stop, all hammering in the point that the economy isn't improving, "tough times" are here, it was Obama's fault for the "failed stimulus", our unemployment rate is one of the worst in the nation (again implying that's Obama's fault too), and implying that we're headed down the drain if Obama is re-elected.

It's all about saying something long enough and loudly enough, and a sizable amount of the population will start believing you.
 
2012-10-27 04:44:10 PM  
I hate it when lying liars lie their bullshiat lies and say that Romney's telling anything but the truth. Now; Obama, he's an absurd bullshiatter from a long line of Chicago dirty politics bullshiatters, so full of Obama-bullshiat that even his eyes are brown. Let's spend $11 for every $7 we take in. morans. Let's not entitle business owners who built their own businesses to success, but instead absolutely embrace socialist redistribution of those earnings because, after all, those people who built those buinsesses are entitled to anything more than the right to live amongst these other wonderful recepients of Marxists' largesse.
 
2012-10-27 04:44:28 PM  

Bendal: It's all about saying something long enough and loudly enough, and a sizable amount of the population will start believing you.


Well, who are they gonna believe? The GOP or their lying eyes?
 
2012-10-27 04:44:54 PM  

lantawa: I hate it when lying liars lie their bullshiat lies and say that Romney's telling anything but the truth


lying liar
 
2012-10-27 04:45:29 PM  

lantawa: I hate it when lying liars lie their bullshiat lies and say that Romney's telling anything but the truth. Now; Obama, he's an absurd bullshiatter from a long line of Chicago dirty politics bullshiatters, so full of Obama-bullshiat that even his eyes are brown. Let's spend $11 for every $7 we take in. morans. Let's not entitle business owners who built their own businesses to success, but instead absolutely embrace socialist redistribution of those earnings because, after all, those people who built those buinsesses are entitled to anything more than the right to live amongst these other wonderful recepients of Marxists' largesse.


This is a hard word-search.
 
2012-10-27 04:45:38 PM  
I'm doing really well. Maybe Romney's base is just lazy and should try to get a job instead of sponging off the rest of us.

/the Republican outlook on life
 
2012-10-27 04:45:55 PM  

limeyfellow: firefly212: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I just got a 24% pay raise, so I'm getting a real kick out of the derp in this thread...

Lol, I just got a promotion and a good deal more money too... and the company I work for is way better than the one I was with a year ago. The GOP can cry doom all they want, after 8 years of Bush, I just don't believe any of their wolf cries any more.

That sucks. I got ripped off with only an 18% pay rise, doubling my vacation time, and much better benefits. I should try harder I guess.

We and all our customers are typically doing 200% better than we were doing in 2008.


I think the next batch of Romney commercials will just be him screaming DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for no apparent reason.
 
2012-10-27 04:48:01 PM  
And he didn't change the mind or vote of one single person with that statement.
 
2012-10-27 04:48:02 PM  
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2012-10-27 04:48:24 PM  

Bendal: It's all about saying something long enough and loudly enough, and a sizable amount of the population will start believing you.


Bingo. And between the campaign ads, Fox News, CNN, Clear Channel Radio, and Yahoo News - that is one hell of a deafening voice. Obama's campaign ads, MSNBC, and Stewart/Colbert can be heard, but aren't remotely as loud. And the combined "investigative journalism" of CBS, ABC, and PBS don't even amount to a whisper.
 
2012-10-27 04:50:34 PM  
I just wish these right-wing layabouts that think that I should pay for their Hoverrounds and busing their fat-assed kids to school just because they live in a rural area would get jobs. They are really sponging off the rest of us.

No wonder they're all Romney supporters. He didn't work for any of his money, and they don't think they should have to do so either.
 
2012-10-27 04:57:35 PM  

Thigvald the Big-Balled: clkeagle: Bontesla: Where do you

Honestly, I'd like to see him put his money where his mouth is. After losing the election, Romney should position himself to take over a failing company like Kodak or HP or Amtrak. Let's see if he actually has the business skills that he claims he does, or if that was all just BS too.

Then in ten years, whenever Biff or Thwack or whatever his son's name is runs for office, he can talk about the business success of both his father and his grandfather.

It's like he named his kids after the sound effects in Adam West's "Batman" series.

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At least he didn't go with Don Martin cartoons.

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2012-10-27 04:57:41 PM  

Mrbogey: neenerist: Get out there and short those stocks

The stock market, despite the derp from simple minded folks who think they're economic geniuses because they read a blog, is not a direct bellweather to the US economy. It will shift, shrink, and grow based upon specific market influences.

The economy will always recover. It's just a matter of how long and when. Obama's policies just aren't designed to grow economies. Steve Jobs knew it. CEO's who aren't trying to grift money from the gov't know it. Yet Obama's supporters don't.

Talk about optimistically ignorant.


Unless pretending it is helps the GOP narrative. Like it did back when the stock market was good but everything else wasn't in 2005. Liberals know this, of course, just as they know that Obama's policies are too far-right to actually grow the economy like it should, but compromise and legislature being what it is we Americans have to accept compromises with idiots and greedy farks.

We'd be better off throwing the bankers in jail, but shills like you have to serve your lords, so we free men must abide.
 
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