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2012-10-27 07:01:13 AM
Continuing a proud tradition of NBC pissing money away. No real 'Murican wants to watch soccer.
 
2012-10-27 07:05:42 AM

It's a Trap!: Continuing a proud tradition of NBC pissing money away. No real 'Murican wants to watch soccer.


And no real foreigner wants to watch American channels.
 
2012-10-27 07:19:19 AM
I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.
 
2012-10-27 07:40:51 AM
I hope this doesn't mean the end of Saturday mornings with Sir Ian Darke.
 
2012-10-27 07:53:02 AM
Now that I have Fox Soccer Channel in HD I really don't care who broadcasts the matches.

If Fox loses the EPL they will have to pick up another league to broadcast which I hope will be the Bundesliga. Currently it is on GOL TV which I don't have in HD. It would also be nice if the Europa league were broadcast in HD too.

All in all this will be a good thing for American soccer fans.
 
2012-10-27 08:16:39 AM
God, I need hockey back.

Last night I resorted to watching the Russian league just to get a hockey fix.
 
2012-10-27 08:29:26 AM

Emrick: If Fox loses the EPL they will have to pick up another league to broadcast which I hope will be the Bundesliga. Currently it is on GOL TV which I don't have in HD.


GOL TV owns Bundesliga broadcast rights through the 2014/15 season. With BeIN Sport owning rights for Serie A, Ligue 1, and La Liga, there isn't much more for Fox to show on weekends.
 
2012-10-27 08:37:42 AM

It's a Trap!: Continuing a proud tradition of NBC pissing money away. No real 'Murican wants to watch soccer.


In 20 years when the NFL turns into the NSL people will watch.
 
2012-10-27 08:50:45 AM

alessandro: GOL TV owns Bundesliga broadcast rights through the 2014/15 season. With BeIN Sport owning rights for Serie A, Ligue 1, and La Liga, there isn't much more for Fox to show on weekends.


That isn't true. Do you think FSC will go black on weekends if they lose the EPL?

What will happen is they will buy the rights to the Jupiler or Eredivisie or some other B league and then sublet the rights to A league games from someone else. Worst case scenario is they buy GOL TV to get the rights to one of the A leagues. Like I said, this is good news for American Soccer fans.

Also, FYI for soccer fans BeIN Sports is supposedly on Direct TV and DISH as well as Comcast.
 
2012-10-27 08:58:44 AM

WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.


They can't possibly be worse than Speed. Not hiring Varsha would be a big start. But they've already said every race would be live, which is a vast improvement over having to watch Silverstone and the German GP on tape delay. Hell, even Valencia was worth watching this year if it had been live.

/can't wait to see how badly Ferrari is going to piss off the Indians
 
2012-10-27 09:01:56 AM
Dumbmittter,

MLS (summer/fall) and EPL (fall/winter/spring) have mostly different seasons. It won't impact them much at all.

/PSA for all 3 fark soccer fans
 
2012-10-27 09:09:06 AM

UNC_Samurai: can't possibly be worse than Speed


Amen, would love to see NBC buy the rights to Moto GP.
 
2012-10-27 09:47:20 AM

JerseyTim: I hope this doesn't mean the end of Saturday mornings with Sir Ian Darke.


I'm pretty sure it will, with the beginning of Saturday mornings with Arlo White. (That would be the guy who called all the US women's team's Olympic soccer matches. He's not bad; as long as they find someone other than Brandi Chastain to go alongside him...)
 
2012-10-27 10:04:25 AM
Bye Bye Fox Soccer Channel & Fox Soccer Plus.
 
2012-10-27 10:13:22 AM
I'd hate to see FSC lose the rights. They were the ones to be cool enough to carry the EPL for us all of these years. It would be a shame that they did all the leg work only to have the rights poached.
 
2012-10-27 10:18:53 AM
As much as I'd love to see the EPL on NBC, I'm worried that ESPN might treat the EPL like they did hockey after they lost the TV rights for the NHL
 
2012-10-27 10:25:29 AM

WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.


I'm guessing a tape delay to prime time for the US GP next year, and for the American GP year after next -- even for the Austin and NYC markets.

/at least they won't be able to cut away from whatever "action" Bernie decides the people want to see
 
2012-10-27 10:34:18 AM

UNC_Samurai: WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.

They can't possibly be worse than Speed. Not hiring Varsha would be a big start. But they've already said every race would be live, which is a vast improvement over having to watch Silverstone and the German GP on tape delay. Hell, even Valencia was worth watching this year if it had been live.

/can't wait to see how badly Ferrari is going to piss off the Indians


They have the flag of the Italian Navy on their cars for this race. They say it's solely in support of their brave sailors and in no way a political statement specifically to piss off India after a recent international incident between India and Italian Marines -- and I completely believe it, since the teams are expressly prohibited from using races or their cars as a political soapbox; Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro would never even consider deliberately running afoul of the rules; and there is absolutely no chance that the FIA would bend, break, repeal, rescind or otherwise alter the rules in order to make sure that Ferrari does not get punished in any way, shape or form whatsoever for doing things that the other teams are not allowed to do.
 
2012-10-27 10:56:09 AM
I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer sucks.
 
2012-10-27 11:05:19 AM

El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer Cricket sucks.


FTFY
 
2012-10-27 11:17:05 AM
It will not be long until the only broadcasts on TV are sports -- it's the only thing people won't DVR for later or watch on Netflix/Hulu/et al.

So grab what little market share you can, while you can.

Cable & broadcast are dead.
 
2012-10-27 11:21:43 AM
They found out Americans will watch boring sports from England with any time delay they choose to use during the Olympics.
 
2012-10-27 11:40:01 AM

Woolwine: El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer Cricket sucks.

FTFY


Probably. I wouldn't imagine that the national sport of Pakistan would be good. Soccer sucks.
 
2012-10-27 11:46:21 AM

WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.


"BRINGITY BRINGITY BRINGITY! Let's go racing chaps!"

Just PLEASE at least bring Matchett and Buxton over. That's all I ask. I could not handle Robin Miller's fat ass running up to Kimi and asking him a stupid breathless question...or trying to explain a double diffuser with his third grade education.
 
2012-10-27 12:17:43 PM

El Brujo: Woolwine: El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer Cricket sucks.

FTFY

Probably. I wouldn't imagine that the national sport of Pakistan would be good. Soccer sucks.


Yeah it needs to only have 10 minutes of actual action. Then it's a great spectator sport.
 
2012-10-27 12:24:32 PM
For farks sake, this is a pain in the ass. If FSC loses EPL, they'll have lost everything; they lost Serie A to Al Qaida Al Jazeera, they "lost" MLS to NBC. They will have have almost nothing unless they buy out Gol TV (which will probably go dark at that point). It'll be really hard to justify it and its cost to providers, who might drop it (especially if FSC can't get Bundesliga). Then, in 2018, we're all farked b/c nobody will have or want to pay for FSC, and then Fox has the World Cup, and nowhere to show it. Something similar is happening here in LA. Fox brought two regional channels (Fox Sports West and Fox Sports Prime Ticket), charge a fortune for them, and then lost the Lakers (and Galaxy) to Time Warner. If the Dodgers walk, they'll have almost nothing, definitely not enough to continue to charge what they currently charge. They'll have to drop one of the channels, a channel which currently shows a third Champions League match. Which means even LESS places to watch the World Cup in 6 years.

EPL/MLS et al need to stick to the old model most sports leagues still use. Have blocks of games and blocks of rights; Saturday early, Saturday late, Sunday. Don't sell all of them to one provider. Not surprised Italy and Spain were too stupid to figure this out, now I can't watch the Classico or San Siro anymore. And people wonder why Italian teams are struggling so much...
 
2012-10-27 12:34:00 PM
Pfft. If I want to see a bunch of effeminate wussies playing "football", I'll watch the Cowboys.
 
2012-10-27 12:37:08 PM

GRCooper: Pfft. If I want to see a bunch of effeminate wussies playing "football", I'll watch the Cowboys.


Don't forget your scarf.
 
2012-10-27 12:51:45 PM
New York Reds Bulls & Philladelphia Union this afternoon. I'll be sitting on my couch watching
 
2012-10-27 01:24:48 PM
And this is how soccer continues to slowly, steadily wedge itself into the American psyche. The NHL gave up timeslots and presumably fans. Every time one of the big sports does that, soccer steps in and takes a bit of the slack. That's how a boa constrictor works. Every time the prey breathes in, the snake constricts and takes up the slack, until there's no place left to breathe out to.
 
2012-10-27 01:39:03 PM
Americans aren't interested in F1 because we don't participate in F1.

Get GT coverage over here, dammit.
 
2012-10-27 01:51:29 PM
1) I don't think anyone remembers when Fox Soccer was called "Fox Sports World" and had more than just soccer on it. They could easily go back to that and have rugby and other international sports on it and be fine. As long as they don't go back to showing a live darts competition from Las Vegas on the 4th of July weekend (yes, they actually did that). Also, NBC could just as easily sublet matches to Fox Soccer like Fox did to ESPN.

2) If I'm NBC, I've already had Sir Ian Darke and Macca on the phone.

3) Re: F1 on NBC- the reality is that there's no one else qualified to call F1 races in the USA outside of the current Speed crew. I remember Varsha and Hobbs called F1 on ESPN in the 90s! And didn't Bob Jenkins try to call F1 for a while and suck? The best bet is that NBC brings in the whole Speed crew including Buxton and/or maybe bring Peter Windsor out of the mothballs he was shoved into after the USF1 team fark up.
 
2012-10-27 02:07:20 PM
I'm cool with this. Maybe it'll get me to break out the rabbit ears for the TV, but I usually just watch the matches on a live stream. I have a feeling that NBC is still not going to be committed to broadcasting football matches live, and that's a problem for fans.
 
2012-10-27 02:40:29 PM

El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer sucks.


subjective opinion is subjective.
 
2012-10-27 02:45:26 PM
Annnnnnd I'm not gonna watch that, either.
 
2012-10-27 02:45:46 PM

yelmrog: El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer sucks.

subjective opinion is subjective.


Astute observation.
 
2012-10-27 02:49:25 PM
Yeah, no thanks. There is no way in hell NBC will have the slightest farking idea how to do this correctly. Get ready for split screen commercials, horrible US announcers, a ticker to spoil all the other results, blatant homerism and priority for teams featuring USMNT players and probably Dick farking Enberg to ensure I have a farking aneurysm every time I tune in. They can't even do farking tennis properly for farks sake.
 
2012-10-27 02:50:33 PM

El Brujo: yelmrog: El Brujo: I'd rather watch those world's strongest man contests. I notice the difference in level of play between EPL and MLS, but I find it to be still a fundamentally bad spectator's game. Soccer sucks.

subjective opinion is subjective.

Astute observation.


one of these things is not like the others.
 
2012-10-27 02:58:18 PM

drewogatory: Get ready for split screen commercials


i hope not. That's one of the awesome things about soccer, that it doesn't require half a day to watch a match.
 
2012-10-27 03:28:04 PM
Why not rugby or WRC?

World rally is the only auto racing I find remotely compelling.

And rugby is like hockey on grass! Fast, brutal, tons of action even when they're not scoring...
 
2012-10-27 03:28:26 PM
NBC can't broadcast sports to save their life, so this is a horrible thing for soccer in the US.
 
2012-10-27 03:39:13 PM

Zombie Hitler: NBC can't broadcast sports to save their life, so this is a horrible thing for soccer in the US.


QFT. Especially for west coasters w/ satellite if they pull the same b.s. they do with tennis, i.e. showing the early match on the cable outlet, the "match of the day" on NBC proper, then switching back to cable thus ensuring a 3 hour delay for the MOD and the late games being blacked out due to territorial rights. Not to mention the ability of individual NBC franchises to choose whether or not to even show the game and instead show whatever b.s. infomercial or farm report they feel like. This is pretty much the worst possible news for US viewers.
 
2012-10-27 03:55:48 PM

King Something: WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.

I'm guessing a tape delay to prime time for the US GP next year, and for the American GP year after next -- even for the Austin and NYC markets.

/at least they won't be able to cut away from whatever "action" Bernie decides the people want to see



I'd gladly accept tape delay if I get to see all the laps. I PVR the races anyway, b/c who the hell gets up at 5:00 am for the Indian GP? What really irks me is when TSN will show a re-play of the race (though it's rare that it's not on TSN2), and they don't even bother re-cutting it so the commercials go full-screen when the race is 'paused' for broadcast. No, they just thrown up the same damn 2-picture screen they do during the live broadcast. Bastards...

/Almost makes me want to go back to torrenting the BBC broadcast
//Usually have to wait 'til Monday evening to watch, though, and that's a long time to go spoiler-free
 
2012-10-27 04:01:59 PM

Loomy: King Something: WhyteRaven74: I can't wait to see how they screw up F1 coverage next year.

I'm guessing a tape delay to prime time for the US GP next year, and for the American GP year after next -- even for the Austin and NYC markets.

/at least they won't be able to cut away from whatever "action" Bernie decides the people want to see


I'd gladly accept tape delay if I get to see all the laps. I PVR the races anyway, b/c who the hell gets up at 5:00 am for the Indian GP? What really irks me is when TSN will show a re-play of the race (though it's rare that it's not on TSN2), and they don't even bother re-cutting it so the commercials go full-screen when the race is 'paused' for broadcast. No, they just thrown up the same damn 2-picture screen they do during the live broadcast. Bastards...

/Almost makes me want to go back to torrenting the BBC broadcast
//Usually have to wait 'til Monday evening to watch, though, and that's a long time to go spoiler-free


Tape delay is an abomination in this day and age, unless you are dvr-ing it at home watching the race/match at the earliest opportunity. Us west coast soccer fans are used to getting up every Saturday at 4.30 am to watch the early game, or having to practice CIA levels of spoiler avoidance until we get a chance to catch up.
 
2012-10-27 09:46:49 PM

Halli: Yeah it needs to only have 10 minutes of actual action. Then it's a great spectator sport.


Yeah, like watching a bunch of guys running around and kicking a ball back and forth for an hour and a half while scoring once or twice (if you're lucky) counts as action.
 
2012-10-27 10:48:56 PM

Neondistraction: Halli: Yeah it needs to only have 10 minutes of actual action. Then it's a great spectator sport.

Yeah, like watching a bunch of guys running around and kicking a ball back and forth for an hour and a half while scoring once or twice (if you're lucky) counts as action.


Got a sport that has more than 10 minutes of action AND has more scoring

www.greatatlantictravel.com

Problem solved.
 
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