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2012-10-27 03:59:06 PM  

themindiswatching: /awaits statisticals


Hi There!
 
2012-10-27 04:00:44 PM  

HeartBurnKid: theinsultabot9000: Hell, I live in texas and I shiat you not, even some of my teabagging Obama is a Muslim Limbaugh snorting friends and relatives that have flat out stated they would vote for Hillary if she was on the ticket even if it was democratic.

They're lying to you. If they're really Limbaugh listeners, then they remember how Hillary was History's Greatest Monster™ in the '90s.


Yeah, it's completely ridiculous. It's like all the conservatives that went the entire primary season bashing Romney. Now, all of the sudden, he's their Messiah*.

*Actually used correctly in this case since they think he will save them from something.
 
2012-10-27 04:00:59 PM  
BTW am I the only one who thinks Dean Chambers looks like Torg's Brother?

Does he count to Potato too?
 
2012-10-27 04:05:49 PM  

statisticals: themindiswatching: /awaits statisticals

Hi There!


Awesome username, btw :D
 
2012-10-27 04:06:32 PM  
Wow the entire comment section is gold. Dean the Hutt himself pops in and is quickly eviscerated
 
2012-10-27 04:15:46 PM  

simplicimus: dletter: bugontherug: Okay cons, pay attention. Below, you'll find links to Real Conservative Propaganda's "no swing state" electoral map, which distributes the map according to who they say is currently leading in each state's polls. And to Karl Rove's own electoral map.

You'll notice that Real Conservative Propaganda's map doesn't look all that different from Nate Silver's. And if you distributed Karl Rove's map according to who currently leads in each state, you'd see Obama wins it too.

Link

Link

Nate Silver really isn't spinning anything. He's just taking into account more data, and weighing it according to a wider variety of empirically demonstrable factors, than any of the other sites--which also say Obama is leading.

And while they complain about Nate being "biased" somehow, they are the ones that strangely have had states like Arizona, Tennessee, Montana and South Carolina as not "Solid GOP" states. I mean, other than maybe AZ (maybe 8-10%), does anyone really think there is even a 1% chance of Obama winning any of those?

Depends on who shows up to vote. Sure, the Geico Gecko is funny, but who wants a chameleon as President?


Really, I mean, South Carolina? I'll give you $1:$10,000 odds Romney:Obama if you want to take Obama in South Carolina... I could use a dollar ;)
 
2012-10-27 04:17:37 PM  
LMAO

"You don't live in a bubble. You are one."

That one owes me a new keyboard
 
2012-10-27 04:21:39 PM  

simplicimus: dletter: bugontherug: Okay cons, pay attention. Below, you'll find links to Real Conservative Propaganda's "no swing state" electoral map, which distributes the map according to who they say is currently leading in each state's polls. And to Karl Rove's own electoral map.

You'll notice that Real Conservative Propaganda's map doesn't look all that different from Nate Silver's. And if you distributed Karl Rove's map according to who currently leads in each state, you'd see Obama wins it too.

Link

Link

Nate Silver really isn't spinning anything. He's just taking into account more data, and weighing it according to a wider variety of empirically demonstrable factors, than any of the other sites--which also say Obama is leading.

And while they complain about Nate being "biased" somehow, they are the ones that strangely have had states like Arizona, Tennessee, Montana and South Carolina as not "Solid GOP" states. I mean, other than maybe AZ (maybe 8-10%), does anyone really think there is even a 1% chance of Obama winning any of those?

Depends on who shows up to vote. Sure, the Geico Gecko is funny, but who wants a chameleon as President?


This guy....

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-27 04:36:05 PM  
Fat Stupid and Republican is no way to go through life son
 
2012-10-27 04:36:09 PM  

i1199.photobucket.com

i.imgur.com

 
2012-10-27 04:42:00 PM  
Not sure if hideous
 
2012-10-27 04:44:18 PM  

Fista-Phobia: [i1199.photobucket.com image 831x143]

[i.imgur.com image 400x300]


Well, Rush Limbaugh is a little slimmer, and still an idiot. And Nate is a math guy, but Republicans aren't exactly the pro-math party.
 
2012-10-27 04:50:34 PM  

simplicimus: Fista-Phobia: [i1199.photobucket.com image 831x143]

[i.imgur.com image 400x300]

Well, Rush Limbaugh is a little slimmer, and still an idiot. And Nate is a math guy, but Republicans aren't exactly the pro-math party.


=============

Nope Republicans are the now the party of medieval ignorance.

BTW, Intrade is calling it for Obama. Intrade is capitalism in it's purest form, so that has to be especially galling for the Randoids.
 
2012-10-27 04:51:22 PM  

Fista-Phobia: [i1199.photobucket.com image 831x143]

[i.imgur.com image 400x300]


Is that a real post?
 
2012-10-27 04:52:43 PM  

DamnYankees: Fista-Phobia: [i1199.photobucket.com image 831x143]

[i.imgur.com image 400x300]

Is that a real post?


Yep, he actually posted that in the comments
 
2012-10-27 04:58:39 PM  

simplicimus: Well, Rush Limbaugh is a little slimmer, and still an idiot. And Nate is a math guy, but Republicans aren't exactly the pro-math party.


Pure, uncut projection.QStar News? Sounds legit.

I think a pack of hotdogs fell out of the back of that guy's neck.
 
2012-10-27 05:02:19 PM  
I suggest everyone answer this douche's poll and provide him the answers he wants to hear. Say you're from Ohio.
 
2012-10-27 05:06:17 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Is Nate Silver Jewish? Couldn't he have worked that in somehow? Or is effeminate supposed to connote 'Jew' as well?


I believe he is, yes. It's a small sample size I know, but everyone I've ever met with the last name "Silver" has been Jewish. So I wouldn't be surprised if he is as well.
 
2012-10-27 05:24:10 PM  

Fissile:
Nope Republicans are the now the party of medieval ignorance.

Just because the party consists of mystics, jesters and magicians (we'll cut the deficit, but won't tell you how) doesn't make it medieval.
/Well, maybe it does.
 
2012-10-27 05:28:40 PM  

simplicimus: Fissile:
Nope Republicans are the now the party of medieval ignorance.
Just because the party consists of mystics, jesters and magicians (we'll cut the deficit, but won't tell you how) evil viziers, Inquisition priests and thieving noblemen doesn't make it medieval.
/Well, maybe it does.


FTFAccuracy
 
2012-10-27 05:30:17 PM  
Routinely he assigns percentage odds of a candidate (usually his beloved Obama) winning a state far higher and disproportionate any reasonable odds of that candidate winning a state as indicated by the polls.

Let me guess, if a poll says Obama is leading 52% to Romney's 48%, and the poll says there is +-4% margin of error, you don't think Obama has an 80% chance of winning because "it's within the margin of error!"

Derp.
 
2012-10-27 05:42:06 PM  

vpb: And this was worthy of publishing in someone's estimation.


He did give us a screen shot of Nate Silver's web page.
 
2012-10-27 05:50:37 PM  

Fista-Phobia: I suggest everyone answer this douche's poll and provide him the answers he wants to hear. Say you're from Ohio.


I just tried. Got an error message.

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Element VOTE is undefined in FORM.


I like how convenient he made it for White Christian Males to answer, though. 

Very thoughtful.
 
2012-10-27 06:01:56 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: simplicimus: Fissile:
Nope Republicans are the now the party of medieval ignorance.
Just because the party consists of mystics, jesters and magicians (we'll cut the deficit, but won't tell you how) evil viziers, Inquisition priests and thieving noblemen doesn't make it medieval.
/Well, maybe it does.

FTFAccuracy


You could have left in the mystics, jesters and magicians and just added to it.
 
2012-10-27 06:03:56 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

What a thin man with a high pitched voice might look like.
 
2012-10-27 06:15:57 PM  
This is right-wing 'tards turning on the smarter, more competent guy because they can't understand how he does it.

It's exactly the same impulse as raging Muslims in Middle-East shiatholes saying the west is evil and will succumb to Allah's wrath. Or fundie Christians rejecting science and evolution.

I don't know if they understand that Nate Silver isn't saying Obama WILL win--just that he has a better chance of it (at the moment). Romney can win without Silver being wrong.
 
2012-10-27 06:22:21 PM  
Examiner.com doesn't take much pride in its content, does it?
 
2012-10-27 06:32:12 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: This is right-wing 'tards turning on the smarter, more competent guy because they can't understand how he does it.

It's exactly the same impulse as raging Muslims in Middle-East shiatholes saying the west is evil and will succumb to Allah's wrath. Or fundie Christians rejecting science and evolution.

I don't know if they understand that Nate Silver isn't saying Obama WILL win--just that he has a better chance of it (at the moment). Romney can win without Silver being wrong.


That's way too much nuance for these kinds of people.
 
2012-10-27 06:39:04 PM  

evil saltine: Examiner.com doesn't take much pride in its content, does it?


Really. I should just make a bunch of inflammatory derp to generate clicks and make a few extra bucks. Too bad I have a pesky conscience.
 
2012-10-27 07:01:12 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Yankees Team Gynecologist: This is right-wing 'tards turning on the smarter, more competent guy because they can't understand how he does it.

It's exactly the same impulse as raging Muslims in Middle-East shiatholes saying the west is evil and will succumb to Allah's wrath. Or fundie Christians rejecting science and evolution.

I don't know if they understand that Nate Silver isn't saying Obama WILL win--just that he has a better chance of it (at the moment). Romney can win without Silver being wrong.

That's way too much nuance for these kinds of people.


Yep. If Romney does win I don't want to imagine the mass circlejerk that will occur under the banner STUPID LIB GOD NATE SILVER WAS WRONG HAHAHAHAHA, not at all.
 
2012-10-27 07:13:12 PM  

robsul82: Yep. If Romney does win I don't want to imagine the mass circlejerk that will occur under the banner STUPID LIB GOD NATE SILVER WAS WRONG HAHAHAHAHA, not at all.


If Romney does win, that's the least of the world's worries.
 
2012-10-27 07:17:41 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels:
I heard an interview on NPR and he said he was libertarian leaning, but between the 2 parties, he sides most with the Democrats. Interestingly enough, he said he got into political prognostication around 2005 or so because he was making a living off online poker and Congress made that illegal. He wanted to know which of those bastards was going to get voted out.


'Signal' And 'Noise': Prediction As Art And Science
 
2012-10-27 07:26:51 PM  
of course its some fat fark
 
2012-10-27 07:30:33 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: This is right-wing 'tards turning on the smarter, more competent guy because they can't understand how he does it.

It's exactly the same impulse as raging Muslims in Middle-East shiatholes saying the west is evil and will succumb to Allah's wrath. Or fundie Christians rejecting science and evolution.

I don't know if they understand that Nate Silver isn't saying Obama WILL win--just that he has a better chance of it (at the moment). Romney can win without Silver being wrong.


==================

You think this guy passed his statistics 101 final? You're wasting your time trying to explain it.


evans-politics.com
 
2012-10-27 07:30:50 PM  

The Gentleman Caller: Maybe, but look in his eyes and tell me he's capable of writing satire.


quatchi: I think that for a second but then I look at the guy's pic again and immediately discount the notion.


True, but he could be like a Sacha Baron Cohen character - that may all justl be part of the act. I mean I know that's probably a tad optimistic on my part, but this is one of the rare guys whose derpings are actually hilarious (as opposed to merely stupid or offensive).
 
2012-10-27 07:42:41 PM  

thamike: [upload.wikimedia.org image 225x281]

What a thin man with a high pitched voice might look like.


Come on, nobody would make a giant statue out of somebody unless they had a deep, booming voice, so it doesn't seem silly in case the statue comes to life.
 
2012-10-27 07:45:30 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Wondering why the author is so obsessed with Nate Silver's physical attributes...


The odd part is that Nate doesn't come off as gay. He comes off as a big geek. One wonders if this guy is missing his high school days of torturing the math team.

/gay geek
 
2012-10-27 07:51:46 PM  

gingerjet: Empty Matchbook: Wondering why the author is so obsessed with Nate Silver's physical attributes...

The odd part is that Nate doesn't come off as gay. He comes off as a big geek. One wonders if this guy is missing his high school days of torturing the math team.

/gay geek


FWIW, IIRC Nate is actually gay. Not that it matters.
 
2012-10-27 08:03:34 PM  

DamnYankees: gingerjet: Empty Matchbook: Wondering why the author is so obsessed with Nate Silver's physical attributes...

The odd part is that Nate doesn't come off as gay. He comes off as a big geek. One wonders if this guy is missing his high school days of torturing the math team.

/gay geek

FWIW, IIRC Nate is actually gay. Not that it matters.


I was going after the perception of Nates mannerisms by the right wing stooge. The fact that he is gay doesn't change that.
 
2012-10-27 08:05:47 PM  

simplicimus: Anyone know if Nate has ever responded to the numerous attacks against him?


He responded on Twitter something like Skinny+Possibly gay=ROMNEY LANDSLIDE!!!!!!?!!!?!
 
2012-10-27 08:13:43 PM  
Ad hom from desperate losers? GOP much?
 
2012-10-27 08:17:01 PM  

Fista-Phobia: I suggest everyone answer this douche's poll and provide him the answers he wants to hear. Say you're from Ohio.


Did and done.
"wealthy female vet repub ohio"
 
2012-10-27 08:18:26 PM  

MorrisBird: log_jammin: wow.

To be fair, he's on pain medication. His pelvis is broken in 6 places.


Sounds like he needs to take a few days vacation.
 
2012-10-27 08:23:29 PM  

simplicimus: Anyone know if Nate has ever responded to the numerous attacks against him?


His book just got published. He's done tons of interviews so it's likely someone asked him about that.
 
2012-10-27 08:30:58 PM  
FWIW, during the 2008 runup, Silver was obvious about his being Dem. During the 2010 midterms he was sometimes very vocal about his leanings. However, since the NYT took over the 538 hosting, he hasn't much commented on it any more.

I like the "Unskewed" guy and his site, at least he has the (ample) guts to publicly post his "scientific methodology", and for that I commend him. Putting your point of view out there like that does deserve some respect.

However, as a well published science-type, I find his lack of objectivity a little disturbing...

538 works very hard to be objective, and that's where its credibility comes from among the "statisticals" in the group.

And for them as what can't stand the Ivory Tower approach, try the Vegas approach: but what happens in Vegas, won't be staying in Vegas.

Vegas should be easy money for the R&R crowd, don't understand why they're not buying up all the easy bets, and trying to keep the odds IN their favor by chatting up the O&B stats...
 
2012-10-27 08:32:38 PM  

bemused outsider: FWIW, during the 2008 runup, Silver was obvious about his being Dem. During the 2010 midterms he was sometimes very vocal about his leanings. However, since the NYT took over the 538 hosting, he hasn't much commented on it any more.


Silver started doing this stuff just as a commenter at Daily Kos. He would break down the 2008 Dem Primaries in the very early stages, going state by state. He just put up his thoughts as comments. It was really impressive.
 
2012-10-27 08:37:22 PM  

DamnYankees: bemused outsider: FWIW, during the 2008 runup, Silver was obvious about his being Dem. During the 2010 midterms he was sometimes very vocal about his leanings. However, since the NYT took over the 538 hosting, he hasn't much commented on it any more.

Silver started doing this stuff just as a commenter at Daily Kos. He would break down the 2008 Dem Primaries in the very early stages, going state by state. He just put up his thoughts as comments. It was really impressive.



Not being a Kos fan (too over-the-top, seems to bind up my browser too often), I only knew his views from his 538 site. His correct use of stats was refreshing, and appreciated.
 
2012-10-27 08:41:41 PM  
Hmm, so "not fat" is finally starting to be something worthy of insult in this country.
I was wondering when it was going to arrive, all the signs were already there.
 
2012-10-27 09:14:31 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Nate Silver is a man of very small stature, a thin and effeminate man with a soft-sounding voice

It's fun to watch the Right flailing like this.


That's not flailing, sadly. You're seeing the same anti-intellectual arguments we used early in this country's history. The "milksop" image is one traditionally invoked to demonstrate an anti-intellectual argument - "well, that man's not robust, tall, or demonstrating any real experience at working with his hands - he's obviously bookish, an egghead who believes that his education and training is somehow better than my provincial wisdom and life experience. I can't trust that man."

Combine that with the upswing of homophobia pushed by religious conservatives, and, yes, this is a lovely, calculated attack on Nate Silver as a person. They have to attack him, you see, as they can't attack his figures - his methodology, data, and results are open and readily understood.

They're not flailing. They're doing their best to undermine what could be a devastating election not just for the GOP's Presidential candidate, but also for their moronic Congressional candidates busily making fools of themselves in the real world. If the GOP loses their ability to grind legislative practice to a halt, we'd actually be, y'know, successful - and the GOP can't have the country successful under the obviously tyrannical rule of a half-black secret Muslim socialist Kenyan Manchurian Candidate intellectual Democrat, now, can they?

If they can undermine the process, even just a little bit, well, wiggle room is all a roach needs to nest, and the GOP loves their wiggle room. Cast enough aspersion, and perhaps the Supreme Court will decide this Presidency, too.
 
2012-10-27 09:24:32 PM  

Nem Wan: thamike: [upload.wikimedia.org image 225x281]

What a thin man with a high pitched voice might look like.

Come on, nobody would make a giant statue out of somebody unless they had a deep, booming voice, so it doesn't seem silly in case the statue comes to life.


Uh....

What?
 
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