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2012-10-27 02:36:22 PM  

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,..stop beating around the bush and tell us how you did!
 
2012-10-27 02:40:55 PM  

spongeboob: It is only a matter of time until the Christians actually embrace Muslims, "because at least they believe in God". As more and more people decide that they either don't believe in God or religion simply isn't worth it, the Christians will have to expand their net to keep being a force in American culture.

Just as they are now accepting Mormons and decided years ago to throw their political weight in with the Catholics, a few years from now they age going to look for more allies.

I can't wait till they have to explain to their church members that they were wrong all this time about Islam


Christians will continue to have power in the United States as long as both the Republicans and Democrats continue to kowtow to them (especially the cowardly way the Democrats did at the DNC, a way that rules out my ever voting for Ted Strickland again.)
 
2012-10-27 03:19:15 PM  

abb3w: 8/9. I mistakenly thought the line from Yusuf al-Qaradhawi was too liberal for an Islamic Fundamentalist.


Same score and the same one tripped me up.
 
2012-10-27 03:19:35 PM  

fluffy2097: Mr. Breeze: fluffy2097: 9 out of 9

The Muslims all treat their women with SOME level of respect and reverence, you can see that faint inkling of 'we really do think this is in your best interests'.

The Christians just flat out hate women.

Um... No. Find me the most recent example of a woman shot in the face by a Christian just for wanting the right to attend school.

I'm waiting...

You know how I know you didn't RTFA?

I'll shut you down anyways though. Look at all these religious folks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States


You said Muslims all treat their women with some level of respect.

I gave an example that was extremely to the contrary.

How are you shutting me down again?
 
2012-10-27 03:26:32 PM  

edmo: I often point out that Islam and Christianity are not very different, much to the annoyance of my Christian friends. But in the big scheme of things, if you've learned about a lot of religions, they are practicably the same.


Everyone wants to be a snowflake.

The fundie side of my family got all hot and bothered when I posted pics of the insides of mosques after my trip to Turkey.
"Weren't you scared?" they asked. "Why in the world would I be scared?!"
They really didn't like it when I said, "They're pretty much just like you, except they sing from a loudspeaker rather than ring bells."

Part of me wonders what they expected and the dominant part will accept willful ignorance to preserve my sanity and respect for my kin.
 
2012-10-27 03:30:54 PM  
Fundamentalists from Abrahamic religions tend to have similarities - and none of them should ever hold political power.
 
2012-10-27 04:21:26 PM  

beta_plus: Both Christian Fundamentalists and Islamists are equally bad,
so let Islamists murder American Diplomats!


I think you may be having a stroke.
 
2012-10-27 04:25:09 PM  

MisterTweak: I got 5 out of 9. Goddammitsomuch. I had to admit I hoped a little bit that this one would turn out to be from some obscure jackass brushing away flies while talking into a VHS camcorder, 10 time zones away from me. Religion is like anal sex: Feel free to do it all you want with a consenting partner. In private, preferably But don't do it in front of me, don't ask me to pay for your crisco, and for jesusgoddamchrist's sake, don't try and do it TO me, idiot.

"A child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly."
- Charlie Fuqua, Republican candidate for Arkansas State House of Representatives, in his book God's Law: The Only Political Solution

F**k you, Charlie. I'm sorry your dad did bad things to you, but you don't have to take it out on your own children for f**king sake. Schmuck.


i was thinking honor killings and got it wrong.
 
2012-10-27 04:30:59 PM  

Amos Quito:
intelligent comment below: What's even more bizarre is to claim Jewish fundamentalists are in any way similar to fundamentalist Christians and Muslims.


LOL!

I see SOMEONE didn't read the article, which was written by a Jewish woman, no less.


So was "The Social Significance of the Modern Drama", but I'm betting you didn't read that either.

It's irrelevant anyway. Whether Fundamentalist Judaism is a good code or ethics of not, I have yet to meet to meet a Jew who believes that everyone needs to live by the same rules as he or she does.

That's the difference between them and the two religions being discussed, and it's a significant one.
 
2012-10-27 04:43:29 PM  

intelligent comment below: Amos Quito: I see SOMEONE didn't read the article, which was written by a Jewish woman, no less.


Ah yes, a Jew wrote it. Sounds legit

Just like your posts quoting Jews who disagree with Zionism and that proves that Zionism is the worst evil and Hitler did a good thing.

Those Jews only had themselves to blame for the Holocaust (your words)

Don't forget your argument that Jews supported Hitler AND Stalin

More ignorant trash spewing from your pathetic mouth. You're such a coward you hide behind the internet to show what a pathetic waste of oxygen you are


He's just here to balance out Tatsuma. Nature has an equilibrium.
 
2012-10-27 05:04:17 PM  

intelligent comment below: Uncle Tractor: Besides not wanting to take over Planet earth, what's the difference? Jewish fundies are no less scumbags than their christian and muslim brothers. (NSFW language)

Oh great a youtube video.


Three, actually, and buckets more if you follow the links.

9/11 Truthers have branched into other areas of expertise

Not sure what that's supposed to mean.
 
2012-10-27 05:23:46 PM  

kxs401: Imagine what they could do to us if they teamed up.


Like in Libya?
 
2012-10-27 05:35:25 PM  
beta_plus (farkied: Farkied in red. Ought to be brown.): Both Christian Fundamentalists and Islamists are equally bad,
so let Islamists murder American Diplomatsbomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!


FTFY
 
2012-10-27 06:49:12 PM  

WhyteRaven74: BTW there are liberal Baptists still around.
What a liberal Baptist may look like

[jesse jackson image]


That's... well...
...

Maybe it's okay if liberal baptists go extinct after all.
 
2012-10-27 07:56:23 PM  
zealots and bigots in all of the Abrahamic religions are zealots and bigots
 
2012-10-27 07:58:21 PM  
6 out of 9.
 
2012-10-27 08:06:09 PM  

MrEricSir: Women voting for social conservatives should have their pulses sanity checked.

 
2012-10-27 08:34:52 PM  

intelligent comment below: Amos Quito: I find it interesting that your position is so pathetically weak that you feel compelled to lie out of sheer desperation. Wouldn't it be better to just keep quiet?


Do you have multiple personality disorder?



No, you're just a liar. Plain and simple.


intelligent comment below: Do you think the internet forgets your past words?



It must, otherwise you'd be able to post exact quotes - in context, and with links. But you cant. FAIL


intelligent comment below:
You can't champion the cause of white European superiority

When? Where? Exact quotes with links? No? Then I guess you're a liar, ICB.


intelligent comment below: talk about blacks having "bad culture" that causes their violence and ignorance



Unlike you, who believes that they are an "inferior subspecies", right ICB?


intelligent comment below: and every day of every week come on Fark when a topic can be warped into a tirade about those evil Jews who control the world.



When? Where? Exact quotes with links? No? Then I guess you're a liar, right ICB.


intelligent comment below: Amos Quito: I see SOMEONE didn't read the article, which was written by a Jewish woman, no less.


Ah yes, a Jew wrote it. Sounds legit



Um, yeah. A Jewish woman did write it. A Jewish woman named Becky Sharper, in fact. You can read it all here - if you can read, ICB

.The Ultra-Orthodox: Old World Misogyny in the New World

Then you can go back to lying - pretending I said things that I didn't say.

intelligent comment below: Those Jews only had themselves to blame for the Holocaust (your words)



My words, eh? But you can't dig up a quote on that, can you? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're Jewish - is that right, ICB.

I'm also going to guess that as a Jew, you're somewhat of an anomaly, and that other Jews that you THINK you are "helping" with your dishonest diatribes and outright LIES aren't terribly appreciative of your efforts - because you make THEM look bad.

Do you understand, ICB?


intelligent comment below: More ignorant trash spewing from your pathetic mouth. You're such a coward you hide behind the internet to show what a pathetic waste of oxygen you are



Go ahead, threaten me, intelligent comment below. You KNOW you want to.
 
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2012-10-27 11:27:15 PM  

intelligent comment below: More derp thoughts

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http://www.fark.com/comments/6588780/Palestine-formally-requests-stat e hood-from-UN-Article-to-left-determining-who-this-is-bad-for-to-right? cpp=1

On the history of Israel


Israel is the bastard child of a scheme hatched to swipe the land back in the late 1800's when it was still under Ottoman rule.

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Claim most Jews (with no proof) do not support Zionism and how it has been bad for them

Initially most Jews vehemently opposed the idea of Political Zionism, and continued to do so right up until WWII, and many Jews continue to oppose it to this day, because they can see that no good will come from it - especially not for Jews.

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Jews want to exterminate Arabs

with the racist entity that has been brutally oppressing them and driving them into ever shrinking corners of existence for the past six decades, so I guess Israel's only choice is to kill them all.

Which was pretty much the plan from the get-go, wasn't it?

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And passing off their homeland as insignificant and worthless to want to go back to

Why in the ancient "homeland" where only a tiny percentage of Jews live, and where the vast majority of Jews worldwide havent set foot for hundreds and hundreds of years.

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Jewish conspiracy to discredit everyone who dares say anything bad about them


Oh yes, there is definitely a world press conspiracy to make Israel look bad.

mycatbirdseat.com

Just ask Helen.

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back to comparing Jews to Nazis

The sympathies that were generated as a result of the Holocaust were quickly squandered as the world witnessed what the "victim" became once it donned the jackboots.

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Hoping for the next Holocaust to teach them a final lesson

Israel has become a pariah. The only reason that it is tolerated at all is because of the powerful political, monetary and media influence its supporters wield in diaspora - especially in the US. That intelligent comment below: More derp thoughts

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http://www.fark.com/comments/6588780/Palestine-formally-requests-stat e hood-from-UN-Article-to-left-determining-who-this-is-bad-for-to-right? cpp=1

On the history of Israel


Israel is the bastard child of a scheme hatched to swipe the land back in the late 1800's when it was still under Ottoman rule.

------------------

Claim most Jews (with no proof) do not support Zionism and how it has been bad for them

Initially most Jews vehemently opposed the idea of Political Zionism, and continued to do so right up until WWII, and many Jews continue to oppose it to this day, because they can see that no good will come from it - especially not for Jews.

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Jews want to exterminate Arabs

with the racist entity that has been brutally oppressing them and driving them into ever shrinking corners of existence for the past six decades, so I guess Israel's only choice is to kill them all.

Which was pretty much the plan from the get-go, wasn't it?

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And passing off their homeland as insignificant and worthless to want to go back to

Why in the ancient "homeland" where only a tiny percentage of Jews live, and where the vast majority of Jews worldwide havent set foot for hundreds and hundreds of years.

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Jewish conspiracy to discredit everyone who dares say anything bad about them


Oh yes, there is definitely a world press conspiracy to make Israel look bad.

mycatbirdseat.com

Just ask Helen.

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back to comparing Jews to Nazis

The sympathies that were generated as a result of the Holocaust were quickly squandered as the world witnessed what the "victim" became once it donned the jackboots.

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Hoping for the next Holocaust to teach them a final lesson

Israel has become a pariah. The only reason that it is tolerated at all is because of the powerful political, monetary and media influence its supporters wield in diaspora - especially in the US. That tolerance is wea ...


Shame? For the shiatrolls of Fark... I think not. There will be no concessions and no admissions.

 
2012-10-27 11:29:20 PM  
Why is it "fundamentalist" when describing an Islamic extremist, but "conservative" when describing a Christian extremist?
 
2012-10-28 12:55:02 AM  

Alicious: Same score and the same one tripped me up.


...so, you didn't think an Islamist would be in favor of women reading books, either?

/Yes, I've some prejudices
//I try to keep modifying them based on empirical evidence
///Yourself?

Diagonal: 9/9


[Profile check...] "Professor of Philosophy." Huh. So, that's actually good for something after all.

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So, if you don't mind a bit of ignorant poking, what's your stance on the Is-Ought problem?
Or, if you'd prefer, your stance on the Commutativity of Logical Inclusive Disjunction?
 
2012-10-28 02:29:23 AM  

abb3w: Alicious: Same score and the same one tripped me up.

...so, you didn't think an Islamist would be in favor of women reading books, either?

/Yes, I've some prejudices
//I try to keep modifying them based on empirical evidence
///Yourself?


Islam actually supports women to be educated. The Q'uran encourages both men and women to seek knowledge.

I had a World Religions professor who had spent quite a bit of time studying Islam. I learned a lot from him about it. Americans have trouble understanding the difference in cultural traditions of the populations who converted to Islam and what Islam actually says. FGM is an example of that.
 
2012-10-28 09:49:41 AM  

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Amos Quito

 
2012-10-28 11:19:35 AM  
Most of those things said are stupid, but what's wrong with the first one? All children, not just daughters, should be raised to have good manners. Nobody likes it when children won't behave
 
2012-10-28 12:07:49 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: but what's wrong with the first one?


I'm thinking context factors into that a bit.
 
2012-10-28 03:00:18 PM  
9 out of 9.

It was easy.
 
2012-10-28 03:19:38 PM  

intelligent comment below: More derp thoughts


I would add Amos Quito claiming that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is legit, the 9/11 conspiracy and the ones who are behind it (take a guess) but overall you covered all the basics. Even added some new stuff i wasn't aware of. The guy sure is a prolific anti-semite shiatstain.

it's all in details here.
 
2012-10-28 03:49:27 PM  

Alicious: I had a World Religions professor who had spent quite a bit of time studying Islam. I learned a lot from him about it. Americans have trouble understanding the difference in cultural traditions of the populations who converted to Islam and what Islam actually says. FGM is an example of that.


Is a society's religion what the people in that society say it is, or what your professor says it is? I claim that for those Islamic societies who believe that Allah has commanded them to mutilate women's genitals, FGM is part of their religion. For those shiatstains in Afghanistan and Pakistan who try to maim or kill girls who go to school, preventing women from learning is part of their religion. Bombing the olympics and abortion clinics is part of Eric Rudholf's religion. Allowing children to die in unimaginable suffering rather than seek medical treatment is a part of some parents' religion. Is it so surprising that some of us hate religion in all its forms?
 
2012-10-28 04:01:00 PM  

pciszek:

Is a society's religion what the people in that society say it is, or what your professor says it is? I claim that for those Islamic societies who believe that Allah has commanded them to mutilate women's genitals, FGM is part of their religion. For those shiatstains in Afghanistan and Pakistan who try to maim or kill girls who go to school, preventing women from learning is part of their religion. Bombing the olympics and abortion clinics is part of Eric Rudholf's religion. Allowing children to die in unimaginable suffering rather than seek medical treatment is a part of some parents' religion. Is it so surprising that some of us hate religion in all its forms?


You illustrate my professor's point perfectly.

FGM originates as an African tradition. It predates Islam.

Preventing women and girls from learning is cultural, not religious. Many of the cultures in those areas have distinct and separate roles for men and women in their culture. Those also predate Islam.

Bombing abortion clinics and the Olympics are not part of the Christian religion. Neither is withholding medical treatment. The Bible does not encourage either.

You can hate religion all you want. I think doing so is nonprodutive and prefer to focus my energies on changing cultural attitudes.
 
2012-10-28 04:17:52 PM  
Howdy intelligent comment below!

Sorry I couldn't reply last night - I was out. Had a WONDERFUL evening, and I hope you did too!

When we last spoke, you made several claims WRT what I supposedly said, and I called you a liar. You then went on to make a long list of out-of-context quotes and took the liberty of attaching your little labels of "WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN" in the hopes of distracting us from the fact that you are INDEED a shameless apologist and a spineless liar.

Let's see how you did.

First, your lying accusations (from upthread):

1. "I find it strange how people who preach white power and White European dominance over every other living creature like Amos Quito claims can simultaneously cry about being controlled by such a small number of Semites past and present."

Do you show examples of me "preaching white power and European dominance" below? We shall see.


2. "You can't champion the cause of white European superiority, talk about blacks having "bad culture" that causes their violence and ignorance, and every day of every week come on Fark when a topic can be warped into a tirade about those evil Jews who control the world."

Do you provide examples of my writing about "European superiority", "black culture" or that "Jews control the world", or are you lying again? We shall see.


3. "Just like your posts quoting Jews who disagree with Zionism and that proves that Zionism is the worst evil and Hitler did a good thing."

Do I say that "Zionism is the worst evil and Hitler did a good thing", as you claim? We shall see.


4. "Those Jews only had themselves to blame for the Holocaust (your words)"

My words, ICB? MY WORDS? Or are you lying again? We shall see.


5. "Don't forget your argument that Jews supported Hitler AND Stalin"

Will ICB back this up with quotes, or is he stretching the "truth" in the name of defending his Zionist Creed?


Now watch as intelligent comment below does his famous limbo routine. How low can you go, ICB?

intelligent comment below: Here you are blaming Jews for killing JFK


AQ Quote
: And there was this ONE president that was DETERMINED that Israel would NOT get nuclear weapons.

He demanded that the Israelis open Dimona - their nuclear facility - for inspections.

njtoday.net

Unfortunately, he had an accident.

But that's okay, because the guy who replaced him was VERY pro-Zionist.


/Sure glad that Israel is our ally

http://www.fark.com/comments/7270278/Israel-begins-to-Cheney-ize-a-wa r -with-Iran-It-will-last-a-month-only-kill-500-Israelis?cpp=1



Jews killed JFK? Is that what you inferred from what I wrote? Interesting insight into your psycology, ICB.


ICB:

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And calling Israel Izzy

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And demanding sanctions on Israel for worrying about Iran getting wmd's threatening to start WWIII


AQ quote Barry needs to grow some balls and throw down sanctions on Israel NOW.

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Oooh! I called Israel "Izzy" (have a kleenex) AND failed to pledge fealty to the paranoid mad-dog Zionist Regime? Off with my head?

Next:

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ICB: And agreeing that they setup Clinton with Lewenski to control him

Some other Farker: Obama needs a couple of months before he can grow any balls. The last time a President started pushing Israel to quit acting like a genocidal monster Lucianne Goldberg unleashed the Lewinsky "scandal". Clinton shut up about Israel.

AQ quote: "Indeed."


"Indeed" was the only word I wrote in that quote, ICB. Out of context and irrelevant, as usual.

Have you proven any of your charges (1-5 above) yet? No? Well, let's carry on, shall we?

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ICB flings some poo: And claiming that Jews had it coming with the Holocaust

AQ Quote: The first 50 years of the 20th Century is an interesting study once you get beyond the sanitized soundbites of "Nazis bad, Allies good, Jews innocent victims".

There was a LOT of political skulduggery that went on behind the scenes that most people are unaware of, and the mere mention of these things is certain to bring out troops of poo-flinging monkeys.


So the only thing you "proved" is that you're a poo-flinging monkey, ICB.


ICB: ----------------------

By blaming Jewish bankers

AQ quote: You want the names of the countries, or the names of their central bankers?


So now we see that ICB believes that all central bankers are Jews. That sounds anti-Semitic, ICB.


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ICB: And trying to finally weasle your way out of it, and claim that Jews just call people Nazi's when they don't like what they say

AQ quote: Second if someone DID blame "Jews" for the Holocaust, that would not make them a "nazi" (Unless you define "nazi" as "anyone who says things that Jews don't like).

Weasel my way out of what? Your lies and misrepresentations? And YOU DO call anyone who dares criticize Jews, Zionists, or the Zionist regime a "Nazi", don't you intelligent comment below?


MOVING ON TO YOUR NEXT POST:

intelligent comment below: And here is another topic

http://www.fark.com/comments/7191436/Miss-Holocaust-Survivor-beauty-p a geant-held-in-Israel?cpp=1

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ICB: Blacks Palestinians should be thankful for slavery Zionist occupation FTFY.

Context added: liam76 The fact is that according to the UN HDI Palestenians, under Israel, did better than many of their arab neighbors.

AQ to liam76: Yeah, well, on the whole, it seems that the descendants of black slaves brought to the US have fared far better than their relatives who remained in Africa. No?

As you can see, liam76 and the poo-flinging troops were trying to defend Izzy's brutal 60 year occupation of the Palestinian people, claiming that THEY should be grateful. My statement called them on their bullshiat.

Sucks to be you, intelligent comment below.


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ICB: Palestinian refugee camps are

concentration camps


I used that phrase nowhere in the link you cited. Guess you're lying again, intelligent comment below.

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ICB: Blame Israel for the war of independence Zionist Invasion FTFY

AQ quote: thanks to the invasion of the interloping European Jews.

AQ quote IN CONTEXT:

Amos Quito:
Your implication seems to be that the Palestinians are better of thanks to their brutal occupation under the Israelis.

Sounds like you're saying the Pallies should be grateful for the "comforts" with which the Zionist boot-heel has blessed them. No?



Tatterdemalian: I'll say it if he won't: the Palestinians are provably better off under an Israeli democracy than under an Islamic theocracy.


Amos Quito: Okay then, prove it.

And remember, we're not just talking about the small number of Palestinians that live in "Israel proper", but those that live in Gaza, the West Bank and the various concentration refugee camps that they were forced to flee to thanks to the invasion of the interloping European Jews.


Looks a little different when you're deprived of your Selective Zionist Editing, doesn't it, intelligent comment below?

LOL!


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ICB: Jews ZIONISTS are just as bad as Nazis (also strange to read in the face of you claiming it's Jews who call other people Nazis) FTFY.

AQ quote: I seem to recall that the Nazis sought to enforce the dominance of a single ethnic group over others, to expand their territory in the name of "living space" and manifest destiny, and rationalized their doing so by claiming that out-group members were inferior, subversive, of dubious loyalty, and that they posed a threat to state security.

They uprooted, isolated and concentrated the targeted groups, depriving them of liberty, property, means of livelihood and of life itself, all in the name of "security" and the betterment of the Reich.

Any of this sound familiar?


Spot-on accurate, intelligent comment below. Don't you just HATE it when people have the NERVE to call you racist, supremacist ZIONISTS for what you are? There's a way to fix that: Stop acting like Nazis, and people will stop comparing you to Nazis. Is that so hard to understand?

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ICB again relies on Selective Zionist Editing as he flails miserably: Trivializing the plight of holocaust victims


AQ as quoted by ICB: Yeah, but we're only supposed to cry about the Jews that Hitler hit, right?

"Poor Us! Whore Us!"


AQ quote IN CONTEXT (minus ICB's careful and deceptive editing):

Amos Quito: They uprooted, isolated and concentrated the targeted groups, depriving them of liberty, property, means of livelihood and of life itself, all in the name of "security" and the betterment of the Reich.

Any of this sound familiar?


Porous Horace:The US? Mongolians? Islamists? Lots of people have done that.

Amos Quito: Yeah, but we're only supposed to cry about the Jews that Hitler hit, right?

Porous Horace: Btw, are you happy now that people are playing with you? Who's a good little shiat, eh? Who's a good little shiat? Want a cookie? They're halal!

cdn1.spiegel.de

Amos Quito: "Poor Us! Whore Us!"

Innat right, Porous Horace



ICB finishes his Selective Zionist Editing session by saying: Do you want to keep getting biatch slapped like the inbred trash that you really are? Or are you finally going to run away after losing another debate?

What was that, pathetic liar?

Isn't it funny that you and those of your ilk can NEVER win an argument on facts. You MUST rely on lying, misrepresentation, SELECTIVE, OUT OF CONTEXT QUOTING, and appealing to the baser instincts of emotional melodrama - and even then YOU FAIL.

I stand by every word I wrote - IN CONTEXT (and minus you lying little tag lines implying that they mean something other than what they do).

If you want to talk FACTS (you don't, because you'll lose, and you know it) feel free to point out where I have been factually incorrect in anything I have written, and we'll discuss it.

But you have shown that all you're capable of doing is lying, misquoting / misrepresenting others, and then crying like whiny little ethnocentric racist supremacist BIATCH that you are.

LULZ!


Oh, and one more little ICB quote:

intelligent comment below: You're a pathetic angry drunk

Yeah my "dishonest diatribes" projection much?

OUTRIGHT LIES. boy you're really off your meds now

I make them look bad? LOL do you even know who I am?



Okay, I'll bite: WHO ARE YOU, intelligent comment below? From your posts, I'd say that you're a nobody Zionist zealot, a racist Jewish Supremacist who clearly sees the ugly, reprehensible movement that he is a part of, yet chooses to actively work to defend it because he puts his Zionist ideology above everything - including the best interests of the planet, humanity, or even his fellow Jews.

Is that about right? intelligent comment below?


Finally from the top of this post, let's see how you did in your "honesty test". Did you prove your accusations?

1. "I find it strange how people who preach white power and White European dominance over every other living creature like Amos Quito claims can simultaneously cry about being controlled by such a small number of Semites past and present."

Do you show examples of me "preaching white power and European dominance" below? We shall see.

ICB FAIL


2. "You can't champion the cause of white European superiority, talk about blacks having "bad culture" that causes their violence and ignorance, and every day of every week come on Fark when a topic can be warped into a tirade about those evil Jews who control the world."

Do you provide examples of my writing about "European superiority", "black culture" or that "Jews control the world", or are you lying again? We shall see.

ICB FAIL


3. "Just like your posts quoting Jews who disagree with Zionism and that proves that Zionism is the worst evil and Hitler did a good thing."

Do I say that "Zionism is the worst evil and Hitler did a good thing", as you claim? We shall see.


ICB FAIL


4. "Those Jews only had themselves to blame for the Holocaust (your words)"

My words, ICB? MY WORDS? Or are you lying again? We shall see.


ICB lies. FAIL


5. "Don't forget your argument that Jews supported Hitler AND Stalin"

Will ICB back this up with quotes, or is he stretching the "truth" in the name of defending his Zionist Creed?

ICB lies. FAIL


Well, I guess we're done here intelligent comment below.

Thanks for your efforts, however pathetic, to defend the indefensible.

You have yourself a nice day, mmmmkay?

;-)
 
2012-10-28 05:04:54 PM  
Well, we've just seen that the ONLY way intelligent comment below can argue is through out-of-context quoting, misrepresentation, and outright lies.

Is TappingTheVein of a higher character? Or will he holds true to the modus operandi of Spineless Zionist Apologists?

Let's find out:


TappingTheVein: intelligent comment below: More derp thoughts

I would add Amos Quito claiming that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is legit

[...] it's all in details here.


So, I claim that "the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is legit"???

Let's have a look at what I actually said:

TappingTheVein: What do you think about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ? truth or lie ?

Amos Quito: Lie, of course.

We know that it is a lie because whoever wrote "The Protocols" (lol) loosely paraphrased a few lines from another work by some guy named Maurice Joly, who had in turn plagiarized another author named Eugene Sue.

So because of this paraphrasing, we know that the whole thing can and should be tossed out the window BURNT, don't we, TappingTheVein?


[Emphasis and links in original]

True to the Zionist Apologist form, TappingTheVein is every bit the liar as his buddy intelligent comment below has shown himself to be.

Maybe you guys should get a room so that you can lie side-by-side, day and night, without fear of being disturbed?

/Cozy
 
2012-10-28 05:16:32 PM  

Amos Quito: So, I claim that "the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is legit"???

Let's have a look at what I actually said:


Yes, you sure did.

And the explanation of your "method" as usual: You never say it, that's the genius of it. You only hint at it, only ask innocent questions. you just said, in your extremely sophisticated method, *cough*, that the proof for the Protocols being a forgery is insubstantial, the claims about it being a forgery is questionable. Just like you blamed 'the jews', i'm sorry, 'the Zionists' for the assassination of JFK.

Amos Quito:
True to the Zionist Apologist form, TappingTheVein is every bit the liar as his buddy intelligent comment below has shown himself to be.

Maybe you guys should get a room so that you can lie side-by-side, day and night, without fear of being disturbed?


Do you say that with a straight face when your anti-semitic drivel is detailed all over this thread ?

What a pathetic anti-semitic sack of shiat.
 
2012-10-28 05:23:08 PM  

Alicious: You illustrate my professor's point perfectly.

FGM originates as an African tradition. It predates Islam.


You say FGM is not part of their people's religion, but the people doing it say it is. Whom should I accept as an authority their religion, the people practicing it, or some American guy who isn't a member of their religion OR their culture?
 
2012-10-28 06:03:23 PM  

intelligent comment below: Amos Quito: You have yourself a nice day, mmmmkay?


Nice try but your attempt to weasel your way out of your own past posts sadly falls flat on your face, just like you in life.



As I said, there is nothing in those posts that is inaccurate, or that I would "deny", your pathetic attempts to twist their meaning via your out-of-context Selective Zionist Spin Quoting, misrepresentations and outright lies notwithstanding.


intelligent comment below: In every topic when faced with your past statements you claim ignorance and people just misunderstood you. You are a sad worthless little man



No, you don't like what I say, but you can't argue against it with fact, so you lie. Lie lie lie lie, naively assuming that you won't get called out. You'd think that you'd have learned by now, but then again, folks of your ilk are not terribly adept at learning from their mistakes, are they? Witness TappingTheVein following in your footsteps that lead to the edge and off into the abyss.

Tisk tisk.

intelligent comment below: Even in the face of your own words you still cannot admit defeat. So sad.


What defeat? You told a pack of lies in this thread that I listed at both the top AND bottom of my L-O-N-G post above. Then in your pathetic attempt to COVER for those lies, you made a long list of out of context quotes prefaced by "explanations" implying that they "mean" something other than what they say. Your insertion of the word JEW to replace the word ZIONIST at every opportunity shows how pathetically desperate you are.

As usual, the Zionist position CANNOT be defended on its "virtues", so you MUST depend on lies, deception, subterfuge, misdirection and misrepresentation at EVERY turn if you hope to win ANY points at all.

Have you ever considered whether your bigoted, racist, ethnocentric "cause" is really worthy of defending, intelligent comment below? I mean, it seems like a LOT of work to be putting into a project that is FAIL by design.

Don't you think?
 
2012-10-28 06:03:47 PM  

pciszek:

You say FGM is not part of their people's religion, but the people doing it say it is. Whom should I accept as an authority their religion, the people practicing it, or some American guy who isn't a member of their religion OR their culture?


You could actually read the book that the religion is based upon - the Q'uran. Or you could research their cultural history. Or do both and compare and contrast. Also, if you talk to the people who practice FGM, they don't claim that it is part of their religion but rather it is tradition. Surprisingly enough, it is mainly older women that defend the tradition of FGM.

My professor wasn't an American. You certainly do jump to conclusions easily.
 
2012-10-28 07:36:36 PM  

Amos Quito: No, you don't like what I say, but you can't argue against it with fact, so you lie. Lie lie lie lie, naively assuming that you won't get called out. You'd think that you'd have learned by now, but then again, folks of your ilk are not terribly adept at learning from their mistakes, are they? Witness TappingTheVein following in your footsteps that lead to the edge and off into the abyss.


Projection is an understatement. he probably thinks this is as ingenious as his posting technique of anti-semitic bullshiat.

Too bad things do not vanish from the good old internet and all his antisemitic insanity, conspiracy theories and infantile pathetic attempts to squirm his way out of his posts is present in all its anti-semitic glory.
 
2012-10-28 09:51:10 PM  

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: No, you don't like what I say, but you can't argue against it with fact, so you lie. Lie lie lie lie, naively assuming that you won't get called out. You'd think that you'd have learned by now, but then again, folks of your ilk are not terribly adept at learning from their mistakes, are they? Witness TappingTheVein following in your footsteps that lead to the edge and off into the abyss.

Projection is an understatement. he probably thinks this is as ingenious as his posting technique of anti-semitic bullshiat.



I'm afraid I just don't follow you, Fapping-In-Vain.

I mean, you asked me straight out "What do you think about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ? truth or lie ?", and I gave you a straightforward answer: "

Lie, of course.".

I even went so far as to describe the long-accepted proof that the Protocols are a forgery, and even cited evidence of that proof.

The fact that you cannot accept the answer and explanation I offered (which is identical to the standard Protocols narrative), but that I MUST be speaking in "anti-Semitic code-talk" make me wonder whether you are a delusional paranoid - an affliction that seems to be unusually prevalent among the poo-flinging Zionist Apologist crowd - at least here on Fark.

Which leads me to ponder: Does devotion to Zionism somehow bring out latent delusional paranoid tendencies in people? Or are the delusionally paranoid attracted to Zionism for some strange reason? I think that this topic is worthy of investigation by researchers in the field of psychiatry. Don't you agree, Fapping-In-Vain?

TappingTheVein: Too bad things do not vanish from the good old internet and all his antisemitic insanity, conspiracy theories and infantile pathetic attempts to squirm his way out of his posts is present in all its anti-semitic glory.



Of course you do not truly understand that the posts you link to do NOT support the wild-eyed conclusions that you embrace - but if you did, you wouldn't be a delusional paranoid, would you?

And what of your repeated accusations of "anti-Semitism"? You know, I re-read every post I made in that thread, and I'll be damned if I can find a single statement that I MADE that could possibly be construed as "anti-Semitic" (except perhaps by the mentally infirm). I am decidedly anti-Zionist, however, and that may well be your launch-pad from reality - as you seem (like many of your fellow travelers) unable to differentiate Political Zionism from one's Jewish ethnicity.

Ironically, as you repeatedly accuse me of anti-Semitism, you yourself expressed a loathing disdain for Jews that don't share your Zionist ideals - saying that they are "ten times worse" than anti-Semites.

Yes, you are an odd character, Fapping-In-Vain - a self-described "atheist Jew" who lives in Israel, and who is wholeheartedly devoted to Political Zionism. But how do you justify that? I mean, as an atheist you certainly don't subscribe to the "God gave this land to us" fairytale that MOST Jews try to use to "justify" their aggressive colonization of Palestine, right? I mean, if there is no God, there can be no promise, and no "chosen people" for god to favour above all others, right?

So how DO you reconcile your rabid devotion to a political movement that was founded to hack out, by hook or by crook, a land SPECIFICALLY intended to be populated by ONE group of people from anywhere and EVERYWHERE on the planet that shared ONE thing: Common genetic heritage traced back to Abraham, Issac and Jacob (AKA Israel)?

Religious Jews who are staunch Zionists MAY be able to use their quirky religious beliefs to "justify" their devotion to this inherently bigoted society, but atheists like you? Well frankly, it appears that you're nothing more than a racist - and of the worst stripe.

Or it could just be a manifestation of the delusional paranoia?

Please feel free to explain.
 
2012-10-29 03:30:15 AM  

thamike: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: but what's wrong with the first one?

I'm thinking context factors into that a bit.


Good point
 
2012-10-29 04:47:17 AM  

Amos Quito: I mean, you asked me straight out "What do you think about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ? truth or lie ?", and I gave you a straightforward answer: "Lie, of course.".

I even went so far as to describe the long-accepted proof that the Protocols are a forgery, and even cited evidence of that proof.

The fact that you cannot accept the answer and explanation I offered (which is identical to the standard Protocols narrative), but that I MUST be speaking in "anti-Semitic code-talk" make me wonder whether you are a delusional paranoid - an affliction that seems to be unusually prevalent among the poo-flinging Zionist Apologist crowd - at least here on Fark.


And the explanation of your "method" as usual: You never say it, that's the genius of it. You only hint at it, only ask innocent questions. you just said, in your extremely sophisticated method, *cough*, that the proof for the Protocols being a forgery is insubstantial, the claims about it being a forgery is questionable.

As evident by his own given link you can see the elaborate genius of it, Sophisticated mix of sarcasm, doubt and retardation, if you will. Amos Quito thinks he can express his doubt that the Protocols are a forgery but since he didn't out right say it he's in the clear. He never said it, you see.

Amos Quito: but that I MUST be speaking in "anti-Semitic code-talk"


What code talk ? it obvious to a brick wall. When you present the assassination of JFK as a zionist plot the Amos Quito(tm) way of course, your meaning is not exactly shrouded in mystery.

Amos Quito: Of course you do not truly understand that the posts you link to do NOT support the wild-eyed conclusions that you embrace - but if you did, you wouldn't be a delusional paranoid, would you?


So was it your evil twin who blamed the jews for the Holocaust ? WWII and WWI ? Kennedy assassination ? 9/11 ? or claimed that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are legit ?

You just stumbled into this thread by mistake to bring the Jews to the mix ?just couldn't help yourself.

Amos Quito: And what of your repeated accusations of "anti-Semitism"? You know, I re-read every post I made in that thread, and I'll be damned if I can find a single statement that I MADE that could possibly be construed as "anti-Semitic"


Because in your delusional retarded little mind since you only hinted and 'asked questions here' you never MADE anything. An insult to any sentient being's intelligence.

Amos Quito: Ironically, as you repeatedly accuse me of anti-Semitism, you yourself expressed a loathing disdain for Jews that don't share your Zionist ideals - saying that they are "ten times worse" than anti-Semites.


And some more projections. I said the insane cult of Neturei Karta are ten times worse. You of course adore them because like you they pray for the eradication of Israel. There is a reason every other jewish community shuns them.

Amos Quito: Yes, you are an odd character, Fapping-In-Vain - a self-described "atheist Jew" who lives in Israel, and who is wholeheartedly devoted to Political Zionism. But how do you justify that? I mean, as an atheist you certainly don't subscribe to the "God gave this land to us" fairytale that MOST Jews try to use to "justify" their aggressive colonization of Palestine, right? I mean, if there is no God, there can be no promise, and no "chosen people" for god to favour above all others, right?


Not just an anti-semite turd but an ignorant farktard as well. judaism is a nationality as well as a religion, most israelis are not orthodox but secular, the early settlers were atheist eastern Europeans, jews lived in the region as well, the authority was the British Mandate, there was no 'Palestine' nation or country etc and so on.

Amos Quito: So how DO you reconcile your rabid devotion to a political movement that was founded to hack out, by hook or by crook, a land SPECIFICALLY intended to be populated by ONE group of people from anywhere and EVERYWHERE on the planet that shared ONE thing: Common genetic heritage traced back to Abraham, Issac and Jacob (AKA Israel)?


Yes because we all know all jews live in Israel and everyone living in Israel is a jew, including the 20% Muslim Israelis, the christians, Druze, Bedouin etc.

Amos Quito: Religious Jews who are staunch Zionists MAY be able to use their quirky religious beliefs to "justify" their devotion to this inherently bigoted society, but atheists like you? Well frankly, it appears that you're nothing more than a racist - and of the worst stripe.


So projecting is your new favorite defense mechanism ? well, whatever you think works i guess.
 
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