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(Slate)   Who said it: a Christian conservative, or an Islamic fundamentalist?   (slate.com) divider line 239
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2012-10-26 11:25:14 PM
Imagine what they could do to us if they teamed up.
 
2012-10-26 11:32:25 PM
There's a difference?
 
2012-10-26 11:35:09 PM

Tarkus: There's a difference?


Hats
 
2012-10-26 11:44:26 PM
I got 5 out of 9. Goddammitsomuch. I had to admit I hoped a little bit that this one would turn out to be from some obscure jackass brushing away flies while talking into a VHS camcorder, 10 time zones away from me. Religion is like anal sex: Feel free to do it all you want with a consenting partner. In private, preferably But don't do it in front of me, don't ask me to pay for your crisco, and for jesusgoddamchrist's sake, don't try and do it TO me, idiot.

"A child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly."
- Charlie Fuqua, Republican candidate for Arkansas State House of Representatives, in his book God's Law: The Only Political Solution


F**k you, Charlie. I'm sorry your dad did bad things to you, but you don't have to take it out on your own children for f**king sake. Schmuck.
 
2012-10-26 11:56:45 PM
Ha ha! I got 4/9 correct.

I guess I really can't tell.

kxs401: Imagine what they could do to us if they teamed up.


Exonmoble?
 
2012-10-27 12:02:50 AM
I didn't meant to downvote this thread. Someone undo that for me, thanks.
 
2012-10-27 12:05:42 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Tarkus: There's a difference?

Hats


It's always hats
 
2012-10-27 12:13:06 AM

impaler: It's always hats


Or beards. I'd make a shiatty terrorist. I can't grow a beard to save my life.

*shakes tiny fist at Mohawk Indian great-great grandmother*
 
2012-10-27 12:16:12 AM
6/9. Pesky nuance gets you.
 
2012-10-27 12:17:02 AM
8/9. I mistakenly thought the line from Yusuf al-Qaradhawi was too liberal for an Islamic Fundamentalist.
 
2012-10-27 12:17:14 AM
6 of 9.

Some scary stuff.
 
2012-10-27 12:27:46 AM
Just based on those quotes, it seems as though Islamists lean towards viewing women as potentially too powerful- they are dangerous because of their sexual prowess and seductive power whereas as Christianists view women as powerless- weak and stupider than men. Both versions are patriarchal, though, and necessitate controlling women.
 
2012-10-27 12:28:34 AM
I missed two.
 
2012-10-27 12:33:35 AM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7403584/80295073#c80295073" target="_blank">violentsalvation</a>:</b> <i>I didn't meant to downvote this thread. Someone undo that for me, thanks.</i>

Done.

<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7403584/80295185#c80295185" target="_blank">SilentStrider</a>:</b> <i>6 of 9.

Some scary stuff.</i>

Indeed. I've been asking forever, though, why anyone thinks Christian fundamentalists are any different from the Islamists. I've never gotten an answer other than "Because WE worship the one TRUE God!"
 
2012-10-27 12:40:25 AM
Oh come on, this is impossible.
 
2012-10-27 12:42:13 AM
Someone feels left out.


/From who did Fundie Christianity and Fundie Islam pick up their misogyny?
 
2012-10-27 12:48:49 AM

markie_farkie: impaler: It's always hats

Or beards. I'd make a shiatty terrorist. I can't grow a beard to save my life.

*shakes tiny fist at Mohawk Indian great-great grandmother*



You can just go to a costume store and buy one you can glue on with spirit gum. Problem solved. You'll be out blowing up busloads of innocent civilians in no time.
 
2012-10-27 12:50:14 AM
It's almost like organized religions of all flavors don't want to acknowledge that the very reason we exist is because we emerged from a female womb, and that perpetuation of life is more profound than anything else we could dream up.
 
2012-10-27 12:52:04 AM

coco ebert: Just based on those quotes, it seems as though Islamists lean towards viewing women as potentially too powerful- they are dangerous because of their sexual prowess and seductive power whereas as Christianists view women as powerless- weak and stupider than men.


Particularly interesting once emphasis is added. Contrast:

Hierarchical Linear Modelling indicated that attitudes towards a 'dangerous' groups domain was significantly related only with RWA, attitudes toward a second 'derogated' groups domain was related only to SDO, and attitudes toward a third, 'dissident' groups, domain was significantly related to both, but powerfully with RWA and weakly with SDO. -- (doi:10.1002/per.614)
 
2012-10-27 12:53:04 AM

Fark Me To Tears: innocent


I seriously doubt they are all innocent. I mean, they're on a farking BUS for chrissake. That has to automatically discount their innocence by a significant amount.
 
2012-10-27 12:55:18 AM

Makh: Ha ha! I got 4/9 correct.

I guess I really can't tell.



I got the same score. I was startled by some of the ones I got wrong. I guess I just don't know my misogynistic religious zealots as well as I should.
 
2012-10-27 01:00:37 AM
i.imgur.com

/oblig
 
2012-10-27 01:16:11 AM
Got this one wrong:

"Woman possesses the weapon of seduction and temptation."

If I hadn't heard most of those quotes before, a coin-toss would have been the most appropriate method of choosing.
 
2012-10-27 01:18:39 AM
They can't even recognize themselves in the mirror though. This is why it amuses the hell out of me to watch American social conservatives flip the hell out about the election of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. "It is an outrage that such a conservative, fundamentalist religious person could be elected to the presidency where he may wish to impose his personal, conservative religious beliefs on his own people!" Indeed.

An American religious fundamentalist has a hell of a lot in common with an Iranian religious fundamentalist. You just have to change the names of some of the magical characters and the name of the magic books. Once that's done, they probably have more in common with each other than either of them do with the majority of the rest of Western Civilization. Yet, who is on the radar of American religious conservatives right now as the biggest threat to Western Civilization and humanity (well, maybe after Obama and Pelosi)?
 
2012-10-27 01:21:35 AM
I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.
 
2012-10-27 01:28:14 AM

jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.


that was my method as well.
 
2012-10-27 01:30:05 AM

jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.


Bravo.
 
2012-10-27 01:37:29 AM
1/9
 
2012-10-27 01:44:33 AM

log_jammin: jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.

that was my method as well.


Good point. I should have gone with that strategy. I was thinking more in terms of the media stereotypes when I made my selections. Apparently, these groups blend together better than I had given them credit for. My bad.
 
2012-10-27 01:49:53 AM
I got 8 out of 9.

coco ebert:
Just based on those quotes, it seems as though Islamists lean towards viewing women as potentially too powerful- they are dangerous because of their sexual prowess and seductive power whereas as Christianists view women as powerless- weak and stupider than men. Both versions are patriarchal, though, and necessitate controlling women.

Depending on what era of Muslim we're are talking about. One of the things that I heard from one of their stories, is that Women are considered more pure than men Morally. A man is expected to be weak, women are supposed to know better. They are supposed to be hid away like treasure.

The problem, however, is that we haven't been THAT different from them even 40 years ago. Women were vastly restricted in jobs. Expected to stay home and take care of their children.
 
2012-10-27 01:52:29 AM

jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.


Actually, the ones that seem to want to "protect" women and children were the ones I knew Islamic.

Big clue is in the Islamic faith, women can get a divorce, if the husband is terrible. On the other hand, a man can gain a wife via rape.-Hence why men insist that women they stay indoors...because the male men are ultimately responsible for their women safety/purity.
 
2012-10-27 02:31:04 AM

log_jammin: jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.

that was my method as well.


I've missed you in these wee hours. Glad to see you again.

/7/10, but it really could have gone either way
 
2012-10-27 02:34:50 AM
7 of 9, rather
 
2012-10-27 02:48:55 AM

dickfreckle: 7 of 9, rather


?

www.startreklibrary.com
 
2012-10-27 02:54:58 AM
5/9

A couple were pretty easy because of verbiage. The rest, not so much.

That said,

Tarkus: There's a difference?

 
2012-10-27 03:00:29 AM
why quibble?

Taleban is relevant noun

paste your desired adjective in front

christian
muslim
texan
baptist

/fundamentalist covers the lot
 
2012-10-27 03:05:37 AM
7/9.

Would have been 8/9. It seemed like the one by Charlie Fuqua sounded more western, but I thought at least one of them had to be a surprise, so I went with the other. Nope.

The only other I guessed wrong on was the last one by Syed Ghaisuddin which sounded more western too.
 
2012-10-27 03:07:56 AM
Wow, just wow.
As a woman, what did I ever do to them? Why can't bygones be bygones?
 
2012-10-27 03:08:55 AM
You don't have to be religious to hate women who don't behave themselves the way you think they should, or to think your own ideology and culture superior. Ever seen a redneck or fattie thread around here?
 
2012-10-27 03:15:25 AM

MissyLissy: Wow, just wow.
As a woman, what did I ever do to them? Why can't bygones be bygones?


Bewitched words from a cunning temptress. Lucifer himself would have you believe he is without sin when alas he is the cause of it.
 
2012-10-27 03:19:02 AM
damn, 6 out of nine.

If this was graded straight, I'd get a D.
 
2012-10-27 03:21:38 AM

MayoSlather: MissyLissy: Wow, just wow.
As a woman, what did I ever do to them? Why can't bygones be bygones?

Bewitched words from a cunning temptress. Lucifer himself would have you believe he is without sin when alas he is the cause of it.


Uh, thank you for calling me a cunning temptress. Might be the first time I've ever had the privilege.:) And wasn't Lucifer a guy angel...so doesn't that negate something or other.
 
2012-10-27 03:24:50 AM

kxs401: Imagine what they could do to us if they teamed up.


What makes you think they haven't?
 
2012-10-27 03:25:03 AM
Damn it, I was hoping to ace it.
6 out of 9. I should have done better.

I look forward to more holy wars. I think Islam will win Europe, but Christianity will be hard to dethrone in America.
 
2012-10-27 03:25:39 AM

Makh: Ha ha! I got 4/9 correct.

I guess I really can't tell.

kxs401: Imagine what they could do to us if they teamed up.

Exonmoble?


I got 4/9 also, and I'm married to a muslim woman, I thought I'd have an advantage...
 
2012-10-27 03:27:43 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Damn it, I was hoping to ace it.
6 out of 9. I should have done better.

I look forward to more holy wars. I think Islam will win Europe, but Christianity will be hard to dethrone in America.


Don't be hard on yourself. It was a very difficult test. It makes me wonder if this is what the Federalist papers were warning about Factions caring about their own interests over the welfare of others.
 
2012-10-27 03:29:00 AM
This game wasn't even fun back in the Twelph Century.
I know; let's do it again. It will definitely work this time!

Vote Mitt: Or Else
 
2012-10-27 03:29:36 AM
6 out of 9. Not much difference between the two, but then we already knew that.

Semi-relevant pic:

i560.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-27 03:34:18 AM

log_jammin: jake_lex: I got 7 out of 9. How did I guess? The ones that were more elegantly phrased I guessed were Islamic.

that was my method as well.


That is so weird... I did the exact same thing. I couldn't begin to tell you why exactly, though.
 
2012-10-27 03:35:19 AM

MissyLissy: MayoSlather: MissyLissy: Wow, just wow.
As a woman, what did I ever do to them? Why can't bygones be bygones?

Bewitched words from a cunning temptress. Lucifer himself would have you believe he is without sin when alas he is the cause of it.

Uh, thank you for calling me a cunning temptress. Might be the first time I've ever had the privilege.:) And wasn't Lucifer a guy angel...so doesn't that negate something or other.


No, because....faith
 
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