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2012-10-27 01:16:43 AM
The greatest threat to our national defense is not the size of our military, but the ever-escalating size of our national debt. We must get government spending under control, across the board.

this about the guy who brags on increasing defense spending. that is just one of several schizophrenic things they wrote. there were times it looked like they just threw a dart at a chart of talking points then wrote about the one it landed on.
 
2012-10-27 01:16:50 AM
I'm a little drunk, but I skimmed through it and it seemed intelligent enough - though I disagree that it's "cut taxes and we'll create jobs!" plan will work. But then again, I'm not even sure that's what they said.

The moral here? Don't drink and fark.com/politics post
 
2012-10-27 01:18:30 AM
Yes The economy improved under Obama, so let's go back to the policies that destroyed it in the first place!

Weak Sauce from Scum-Senile.com
 
2012-10-27 01:22:45 AM
can someone explain to me how our sovereign debt is a national security issue. I mean, do we need the pacific fleet to protect us against a sketchy bill collector?

is china gonna start a war which they would lose in about ten farking seconds over 8% of the total tbills? is japan? Are pensioners and other people with investments in government bonds going to rough up Treasury department personnel on the way home?

what is the supposed end game?
 
2012-10-27 01:22:46 AM
The Orlando Sentinel endorsed him, too.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-10-19/opinion/os-ed-endorsem e nt-president-mitt-romney-101912-20121018_1_trillion-deficit-reduction- plan-mitt-romney-obama-s-republican

Of course, the locals think it's a liberal paper.
 
2012-10-27 01:23:36 AM
One other thing to remember: the next president will likely affect the makeup of the Supreme Court, as four justices are in their 70s. Whether that will put women's rights and other policies in danger is something voters need to consider.

www.myfacewhen.net 

I think the person who wrote this editorial probably had to take a shower afterwards, just to wash the stench of derp off.
 
2012-10-27 01:31:02 AM
FTFA: Brush away all the rhetoric, all the vitriol, all the divisiveness from the presidential campaign. To most Americans, only one thing matters - the economy.

This is the exact same bullsh*t Romney supporters keep spouting whenever they get nailed on any other issue. The Sun-Sentinel has bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker.

The truth of the matter is that Romney isn't going to have any more direct influence on the economy than Obama has. The only thing that Romney has going for him is that he might have better luck at getting certain legislation passed in a Congress that doesn't want to cooperate with a Democratic president for any reason whatsoever. I'm sorry, but that's not a enough of a reason for me to support a presidential candidate.

And if the folks at the Sun-Sentinel would just stop for a minute and think about what they're saying -- the economy was in the toilet when Obama was elected. That's WHY he was elected. How is putting another rich Republican into office at this point going to fix the economy?

People like Romney are greatly responsible for the mess we're in right now anyway. Anyone who thinks that willfully sending American jobs out of the country -- to improve profit margins and bolster stock prices -- doesn't understand what drives the American economy to begin with. Regardless of Obama's lack of efficacy in office, I have no illusions that Romney would be any better. Romney is a typical greedy American business tycoon who thinks that the middle and lower economic classes exist to serve people like him. With the general population in its current state of economic distress and employers doing everything they can to drive down wages, we don't need a president who is so detached from the economic reality of most of the people in this country.

The Sun-Sentinel got this wrong. Just plain wrong. The fact that they're using the economy as their reasoning for their endorsement of Romney tells you that they must be just as detached from reality as he is.
 
2012-10-27 01:31:46 AM

SuperT:

what is the supposed end game?


repo men.
 
2012-10-27 01:36:36 AM

SuperT: can someone explain to me how our sovereign debt is a national security issue. I mean, do we need the pacific fleet to protect us against a sketchy bill collector?

is china gonna start a war which they would lose in about ten farking seconds over 8% of the total tbills? is japan? Are pensioners and other people with investments in government bonds going to rough up Treasury department personnel on the way home?

what is the supposed end game?


The Pacific Fleet protects shipping lanes in the world's largest body of open water. Likewise, they tend to be in range of any distress signals from distressed ships and boats in the area.

Also, they're big enough on their own to take on the navy of pretty much any other nation and, with the planes that land on their aircraft carriers, are easily one of the ten biggest air forces in the world* -- behind only such powerhouses as (in no particular order) the RAF, the USAF, and the rest of the US Navy's aircraft. So it's not like they need to vastly increase their numbers any time soon, and the only people really advocating that are war profiteers.


/*you read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice
 
2012-10-27 01:50:52 AM

SuperT: can someone explain to me how our sovereign debt is a national security issue. I mean, do we need the pacific fleet to protect us against a sketchy bill collector?

is china gonna start a war which they would lose in about ten farking seconds over 8% of the total tbills? is japan? Are pensioners and other people with investments in government bonds going to rough up Treasury department personnel on the way home?

what is the supposed end game?


China wouldn't be buying our debt (or put more positively, investing in US Government bonds) if they didn't think 1) They'd be paid back in interest, which they are. 2) They thought US Government bonds were a bad investment.

Anti-China saber-rattling is an election cycle rite of passage, but our relationship with the PRC is so complicated and intertwined that the kind of nuance required for actually explaining what the hell is going on with it any given time is way beyond anything the news cycle or debate format or even a stump speech can really convey.

For example, how is Mitt Romney going to go about strengthening international pressure on Syria and Iran if he's alienated China in a trade war, you know... the China that's on the Security Council? How is the economy gonna do that he purports to improve via his various economic schemes when he's implementing tariffs on Chinese imports that keeps prices down for American consumers?

In short: The US and China need each other - cheap goods and a market to sell them to, respectively - and thus have to tolerate each others' bullshiat.
 
2012-10-27 01:50:57 AM
This article just reeks of mental gymnastics and misinterpretations in order to avoid endorsing Obama.

The unemployment rate is lower than it was when Obama took office, but because it does not satisfy an arbitrary metric that has never been used to measure success for other presidents, it doesn't count?

The auto bail out (which Romney opposed) and stimulus (which Romney opposed) were great policies and have both helped America and Florida...so vote for Romney?

Obama overhauled healthcare to make it better, but because the process wasn't the way we wanted...so vote for the guy who wants to repeal (maybe? who knows what Romney's stance on the ACA is) it?

Romney closed a budget gap as governor without raising taxes...except he did it by massively raising fees and shifting the tax burden onto cities and municipalities, actually raising the the total tax burden on citizens. But hey! He didn't literally raise taxes!

We need to cut defense spending...so vote for the guy who vows to increase defense spending.

We don't need to get into another middle east war, and diplomacy must remain first...so vote for the guy who couldn't even go to Britain without farking up and who's been sabre rattling war with Iran for years (up until his abrupt turn at the debate).

If you don't want to endorse Obama, then don't endorse Obama. But if you have to make up reasons to endorse the other guy, perhaps you should just endorse...nobody. I guess this is why there's a Florida tag.
 
2012-10-27 01:57:27 AM
Sun Sentinel is a piece of crap paper, you can find simple errors in spelling and grammar in the majority of their articles. Your mom's blog is written better.

Additionally they've had "polls" they run daily and ever since they turned to mainly political questions the polls have come out overwhelmingly in favor of Romney, all of them. Pretty sure it's not a Republican leaning area they're in yet their poll results for yesterday's poll ( Poll

"Do you agree with the Sun Sentinel's endorsement of Gov. Romney?"

Yes. He is obviously the right man for the job (17381 responses)
81%

No. Obama has earned a second term (757 responses)
4%

Yes. And it's surprising to see the liberal media do the right thing (2614 responses)
12%

No.Obama's plans are starting to work well (583 responses)
3%
21335 total responses
***

And all of the Romey/Obama polls come out like this. 90%+ for Romney. So either the SS is starting the poll with Romney at 90% of the votes or someone is running a script of some sort to sway their polls.

Oddly enough their little polls rarely used to get even 1000 votes per day. Shady shady.

/Yes, I'm annoyed by it.
 
2012-10-27 02:01:56 AM

sforce: Sun Sentinel is a piece of crap paper, you can find simple errors in spelling and grammar in the majority of their articles. Your mom's blog is written better.

Additionally they've had "polls" they run daily and ever since they turned to mainly political questions the polls have come out overwhelmingly in favor of Romney, all of them. Pretty sure it's not a Republican leaning area they're in yet their poll results for yesterday's poll ( Poll

"Do you agree with the Sun Sentinel's endorsement of Gov. Romney?"

Yes. He is obviously the right man for the job (17381 responses)
81%

No. Obama has earned a second term (757 responses)
4%

Yes. And it's surprising to see the liberal media do the right thing (2614 responses)
12%

No.Obama's plans are starting to work well (583 responses)
3%
21335 total responses
***

And all of the Romey/Obama polls come out like this. 90%+ for Romney. So either the SS is starting the poll with Romney at 90% of the votes or someone is running a script of some sort to sway their polls.

Oddly enough their little polls rarely used to get even 1000 votes per day. Shady shady.

/Yes, I'm annoyed by it.


Are you saying a media outlet may be manipulating their numbers to drive viewership and ad buys?
 
2012-10-27 02:02:21 AM

Gepetto: We need to cut defense spending...so vote for the guy who vows to increase defense spending.


Romney's wrong on that. But returning defense to 2008 baselines (without Iraq and Afghanistan), and inflating at less than the rate of growth as your starting point for cuts doesn't work, either. Especially when defense is the only part of Federal spending you're willing to cut.

The portion of the total Federal budget that's non-discretionary spending keeps growing. Very few politicians have been willing to even look at it. Ryan's plan (which isn't Romney's plan) at least makes an attempt.

And just raising taxes on the rich isn't going to even begin to cover the shortfall in revenue. But it might be enough to keep paying for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which, clearly, is the most vital role of the Federal government.

So, what happens? Fiscal cliff, a return to 2000 tax rates, budget that's magically close to being balanced, probably a two-year recession, and Medicare still teetering on the brink of insolvency.
 
2012-10-27 02:03:25 AM

Curious: The greatest threat to our national defense is not the size of our military, but the ever-escalating size of our national debt. We must get government spending under control, across the board.

this about the guy who brags on increasing defense spending.



And Mittens wants to do that while slashing even more revenue via even more massive tax cuts. The Republican reputation of being "fiscally responsible" is as much of a f*cking joke as their claims to being stronger on national defense.

9/11, Republicans at the wheel.
Great Recession, Republicans at the wheel.
Massive debt from unnecessary wars and unnecessary tax cuts for the rich, Republicans at the f*cking wheel again.

Fark all of them.
 
2012-10-27 02:05:42 AM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: Brush away all the rhetoric, all the vitriol, all the divisiveness from the presidential campaign. To most Americans, only one thing matters - the economy.

This is the exact same bullsh*t Romney supporters keep spouting whenever they get nailed on any other issue. The Sun-Sentinel has bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker.

The truth of the matter is that Romney isn't going to have any more direct influence on the economy than Obama has. The only thing that Romney has going for him is that he might have better luck at getting certain legislation passed in a Congress that doesn't want to cooperate with a Democratic president for any reason whatsoever. I'm sorry, but that's not a enough of a reason for me to support a presidential candidate.

And if the folks at the Sun-Sentinel would just stop for a minute and think about what they're saying -- the economy was in the toilet when Obama was elected. That's WHY he was elected. How is putting another rich Republican into office at this point going to fix the economy?

People like Romney are greatly responsible for the mess we're in right now anyway. Anyone who thinks that willfully sending American jobs out of the country -- to improve profit margins and bolster stock prices -- doesn't understand what drives the American economy to begin with. Regardless of Obama's lack of efficacy in office, I have no illusions that Romney would be any better. Romney is a typical greedy American business tycoon who thinks that the middle and lower economic classes exist to serve people like him. With the general population in its current state of economic distress and employers doing everything they can to drive down wages, we don't need a president who is so detached from the economic reality of most of the people in this country.

The Sun-Sentinel got this wrong. Just plain wrong. The fact that they're using the economy as their reasoning for their endorsement of Romney tells you that they must be just as detac ...


you seem to have it nailed 100%. yet i have friends and family on facebook that cannot understand or accept any one of the things you stated. it is so frustrating it makes me angry. finding out people you know are complete idiots is a heart break.
 
2012-10-27 02:06:13 AM

Summoner101: sforce: Sun Sentinel is a piece of crap paper, you can find simple errors in spelling and grammar in the majority of their articles. Your mom's blog is written better.

Additionally they've had "polls" they run daily and ever since they turned to mainly political questions the polls have come out overwhelmingly in favor of Romney, all of them. Pretty sure it's not a Republican leaning area they're in yet their poll results for yesterday's poll ( Poll

"Do you agree with the Sun Sentinel's endorsement of Gov. Romney?"

Yes. He is obviously the right man for the job (17381 responses)
81%

No. Obama has earned a second term (757 responses)
4%

Yes. And it's surprising to see the liberal media do the right thing (2614 responses)
12%

No.Obama's plans are starting to work well (583 responses)
3%
21335 total responses
***

And all of the Romey/Obama polls come out like this. 90%+ for Romney. So either the SS is starting the poll with Romney at 90% of the votes or someone is running a script of some sort to sway their polls.

Oddly enough their little polls rarely used to get even 1000 votes per day. Shady shady.

/Yes, I'm annoyed by it.

Are you saying a media outlet may be manipulating their numbers to drive viewership and ad buys?


No ... more conspiracy like ... like the people in charge of the polls are skewing them because they want Romney's pole.

Even Fox "News" doesn't skew their polls this bad.
 
2012-10-27 02:11:51 AM
The Salt Lake Tribune's endorsement of Obama is far more impressive and telling.

So is Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama.

If I was running Obama's campaign I would hand deliver a summary of Ryan's budget to every voter in Florida and play commercials 24x7 of Romney's endorsement of switching Medicare to a voucher system.

Sorry Granny, you're late for your night shift at 7-Eleven. And don't forget you are working the early shift at Krispy Kreme.
 
2012-10-27 02:12:16 AM
How is the Sun-Sentinel practicing journalism? The endorsement claims that Obama ran up the debt, yet even Forbes and the Washington Post have talked about how little Obama has contributed to deficit spending compared the previous administration. Anybody who claims otherwise is either a fool or a liar, including the Sun-Sentinel.
 
2012-10-27 02:15:59 AM
Wait, isn't his appeal in Florida his constant promising the elderly Red Sea pedestrians that we'll fight Israel's fights for them?

How is that going to improve the economy?
 
2012-10-27 02:17:17 AM

hurdboy: But it might be enough to keep paying for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which, clearly, is the most vital role of the Federal government.



The budget for CPB is 0.06% the size of our Defense Budget. That you would even mention it, after casually dismissing other remedies that would take trillions off of our national debt, discredits and embarrasses your entire argument.

The Republican long-game for decades has been to blow-up our our national debt, and then use debt-reduction as an excuse to cut programs they don't like. Fark them and anyone else who goes along with it. And fark anyone who suggests more tax cuts, much less any extension of the deficit-ballooning "Bush Tax Cuts," which completely FAILED to create jobs, which was the farking lie they were sold to us on in the first place.
 
2012-10-27 02:24:36 AM
Lead, follow or GTF out of the way.

He didn't lead

He didn't follow

I guess there's only one thing left.
 
2012-10-27 02:25:13 AM
Business owners are reluctant to assume risk in the face of unending uncertainty.

Oh look, they invoked the Confidence Fairy. That's where I stopped reading.
 
2012-10-27 02:34:00 AM

WaffleStomper: Lead, follow or GTF out of the way.

He didn't lead

He didn't follow

I guess there's only one thing left.


What?
 
2012-10-27 02:34:03 AM
Comments:

God is on the side of Romney and Ryan ... Rev. Wright (who is very much Wrong) is on obama's side... It doesn't take a genius to undserstand who the better candidate is. Once the Dems Booed God at their own convention, they sealed their fate. I mean they actually BOOED The Holy Father, The Creator of Heaven and Earth .. The One who gave us life. Let's get back to our Christian Values in this Country as our Founding Fathers intended. Fight for God and Country! You take God out of America and God will take America out ... Guaranteed.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-27 02:37:10 AM

King Something: /*you read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice


Nope.

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-10-27 02:41:39 AM

WaffleStomper: Lead, follow or GTF out of the way.

He didn't lead

He didn't follow

I guess there's only one thing left.


That's not fair.

Romney DID follow. The only reason he's rich is because of his father.

/Romney can still GTFO of the way, though.
 
2012-10-27 02:44:59 AM
FTFA: The greatest threat to our national defense is not the size of our military, but the ever-escalating size of our national debt. We must get government spending under control, across the board.

Seriously? That's the game we're playing here? We're going to pretend that our bloated military and overseas deployments aren't massive chunks of our government spending?

Ah, well, I'm sure some more tax cuts for the wealthy will fix that.
 
2012-10-27 03:15:35 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: King Something: /*you read this in Jeremy Clarkson's voice

Nope.

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Holy crap. I immediately read your post in that dude's voice. GG childhood. GG.
 
2012-10-27 03:26:18 AM
Yeah. Its just the economy. So let put the k-12 team in on foreign policy too
 
2012-10-27 03:35:36 AM
As far as I can tell, the Florida Tag became self-aware about the same time Bapp came online. Now, I'm not sayin' that either one is a robot but, one of them was spawned by Mitt. Study it out for yourselves and question: "Where were you when Florida was founded, Mr. Curtis?"
 
2012-10-27 03:38:35 AM

Local_User: As far as I can tell, the Florida Tag became self-aware about the same time Bapp came online. Now, I'm not sayin' that either one is a robot but, one of them was spawned by Mitt. Study it out for yourselves and question: "Where were you when Florida was founded, Mr. Curtis?"


You're full of shiat. Bapp has been kept in the stable since Mitt dropped him on his head. Of course, he had to be put in shackles later in his life when it became clear his tard-strength would tear Josh apart upon the next attempted rape.

THE ARISTOCRATS!
 
2012-10-27 03:40:11 AM

crab66: Comments:

God is on the side of Romney and Ryan ... Rev. Wright (who is very much Wrong) is on obama's side... It doesn't take a genius to undserstand who the better candidate is. Once the Dems Booed God at their own convention, they sealed their fate. I mean they actually BOOED The Holy Father, The Creator of Heaven and Earth .. The One who gave us life. Let's get back to our Christian Values in this Country as our Founding Fathers intended. Fight for God and Country! You take God out of America and God will take America out ... Guaranteed.

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That is farking frightening. Or it would be if I still had anything left to be frightened about. At this point, my fear has been voided by disbelief and that is scarier than anything these farktards can imagine or pray to.
 
2012-10-27 03:42:07 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Anyone who thinks that willfully sending American jobs out of the country -- to improve profit margins and bolster stock prices


i am not trying to start an argument, but a dialogue, but what would be the alternative? if the reason they leave is because wages are lower in other countries, or environmental/governmental restrictions are less, how could we compete? if the government forbade them from moving there, wouldn't some other country take our place? i'm not saying we should make the US a 3rd world country or anything, i am just curious how to stop them.
 
2012-10-27 03:51:15 AM

SuperT: can someone explain to me how our sovereign debt is a national security issue. I mean, do we need the pacific fleet to protect us against a sketchy bill collector?

is china gonna start a war which they would lose in about ten farking seconds over 8% of the total tbills? is japan? Are pensioners and other people with investments in government bonds going to rough up Treasury department personnel on the way home?

what is the supposed end game?


You have to remember that 80% of the Florida population still remembers WWII, either because they're actual veterans or they were kids during the war (and I don't mean war babies, I mean they were actually alive and have memories of daddy fighting the Japanazis.) So talking about "defense" and "national security" to them means something totally different than it does to anyone under 60. These are folks to whom "We have fewer battleships than we did in 1935!" actually sounds frightening and something to be alarmed about because they still remember when battleships were something we needed to fight naval battles with.

So framing our debt as a "national security" issue to Floridians makes it resonate with them in a way that you or I don't feel. It links them to a history they can understand, even if it has exactly zero to do with either debt or national security.
 
2012-10-27 04:41:53 AM

crab66: Comments:

God is on the side of Romney and Ryan ... Rev. Wright (who is very much Wrong) is on obama's side... It doesn't take a genius to undserstand who the better candidate is. Once the Dems Booed God at their own convention, they sealed their fate. I mean they actually BOOED The Holy Father, The Creator of Heaven and Earth .. The One who gave us life. Let's get back to our Christian Values in this Country as our Founding Fathers intended. Fight for God and Country! You take God out of America and God will take America out ... Guaranteed.

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If I was God, I would Smite the original poster, wherever they are.
 
2012-10-27 04:53:19 AM
"Now, four years later, we have little reason to believe he can turn things around."

Therefore, vote for the people who purposely blocked him at every turn from being able to do anything about the economy for the past four years. Vote for the people who decided to sacrifice the American people for the sake of getting a guy they don't like out of office.

Are these people sentient?
 
2012-10-27 05:17:49 AM

Alphax: crab66: Comments:

God is on the side of Romney and Ryan ... Rev. Wright (who is very much Wrong) is on obama's side... It doesn't take a genius to undserstand who the better candidate is. Once the Dems Booed God at their own convention, they sealed their fate. I mean they actually BOOED The Holy Father, The Creator of Heaven and Earth .. The One who gave us life. Let's get back to our Christian Values in this Country as our Founding Fathers intended. Fight for God and Country! You take God out of America and God will take America out ... Guaranteed.

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If I was God, I would Smite the original poster, wherever they are.


Christ that comment is bad. This is why sane people are unable to use logic against fundamentalists. It makes me sick that people so openly display their idiocy.
 
2012-10-27 05:57:59 AM
1) Defund Planned Parenthood.
2) Defund the CPB.
3) Moar tax cuts for the rich.
4) Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
5) ???
6) Balanced budget!
 
2012-10-27 06:06:10 AM

crab66: Comments:

God is on the side of Romney and Ryan ... Rev. Wright (who is very much Wrong) is on obama's side... It doesn't take a genius to undserstand who the better candidate is. Once the Dems Booed God at their own convention, they sealed their fate. I mean they actually BOOED The Holy Father, The Creator of Heaven and Earth .. The One who gave us life. Let's get back to our Christian Values in this Country as our Founding Fathers intended. Fight for God and Country! You take God out of America and God will take America out ... Guaranteed.

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imageshack.us
 
2012-10-27 06:56:07 AM
"We believe Romney will help this nation find the political will to address the challenges with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We'd like to see him exercise equal fiscal discipline at the Pentagon, whose budget has grown 50 percent in 10 years and exceeds that of the next 10 largest nations combined."

Bwahahahahahahahahahah!
 
2012-10-27 07:05:26 AM
It's almost election time, and I've never seen a Romney supporter say something about President Obama that's factual.

This article went straight into false statements of doom and gloom about the economy in paragraph 2.
 
2012-10-27 07:31:15 AM

Alphax: It's almost election time, and I've never seen a Romney supporter say something about President Obama that's factual.

This article went straight into false statements of doom and gloom about the economy in paragraph 2.


The republican version of Obama is the biggest strawman I have ever seen in my life. If he were a wicker man he would be 50 stories tall.
 
2012-10-27 08:16:36 AM

Gepetto: This article just reeks of mental gymnastics and misinterpretations in order to avoid endorsing Obama.

The unemployment rate is lower than it was when Obama took office, but because it does not satisfy an arbitrary metric that has never been used to measure success for other presidents, it doesn't count?

The auto bail out (which Romney opposed) and stimulus (which Romney opposed) were great policies and have both helped America and Florida...so vote for Romney?

Obama overhauled healthcare to make it better, but because the process wasn't the way we wanted...so vote for the guy who wants to repeal (maybe? who knows what Romney's stance on the ACA is) it?

Romney closed a budget gap as governor without raising taxes...except he did it by massively raising fees and shifting the tax burden onto cities and municipalities, actually raising the the total tax burden on citizens. But hey! He didn't literally raise taxes!

We need to cut defense spending...so vote for the guy who vows to increase defense spending.

We don't need to get into another middle east war, and diplomacy must remain first...so vote for the guy who couldn't even go to Britain without farking up and who's been sabre rattling war with Iran for years (up until his abrupt turn at the debate).

If you don't want to endorse Obama, then don't endorse Obama. But if you have to make up reasons to endorse the other guy, perhaps you should just endorse...nobody. I guess this is why there's a Florida tag.


There's been a lot of that going around this cycle, and not just from newspapers. We accept dishonesty from our candidates--heck, we expect it. They're running for the most powerful position in the free world. But there's no reason for the voters to lie about their intentions. Come on, people. Be honest with yourselves and tell us how you really feel. I'd love to know what's really going on in your heads so I won't have to settle for the many cynical explanations we've been using for you.
 
2012-10-27 08:30:25 AM
FTFA: "Americans want our tax code to be fair..."

Not me. I would be totally OK with sticking it to the rich for a few years. Make those assholes suffer a lot for a while.
 
2012-10-27 08:44:11 AM

Emrick: FTFA: "Americans want our tax code to be fair..."

Not me. I would be totally OK with sticking it to the rich for a few years. Make those assholes suffer a lot for a while.


The thing is. The entire drama surrounding taxing the wealthy will not make them suffer. They will end up paying another 5% or so.

And of course paying 5% more in taxes is exactly the same as slavery.
 
2012-10-27 08:47:29 AM

crab66: Emrick: FTFA: "Americans want our tax code to be fair..."

Not me. I would be totally OK with sticking it to the rich for a few years. Make those assholes suffer a lot for a while.

The thing is. The entire drama surrounding taxing the wealthy will not make them suffer. They will end up paying another 5% or so.

And of course paying 5% more in taxes is exactly the same as slavery.


They won't be able to tell it happened without the help of an accountant, most likely.
 
2012-10-27 08:57:28 AM
4 million people gave up looking for work... How many of the were *gasp* unemployable?
 
2012-10-27 09:04:28 AM

crab66: Emrick: FTFA: "Americans want our tax code to be fair..."

Not me. I would be totally OK with sticking it to the rich for a few years. Make those assholes suffer a lot for a while.

The thing is. The entire drama surrounding taxing the wealthy will not make them suffer. They will end up paying another 5% or so.

And of course paying 5% more in taxes is exactly the same as slavery.


5% of $5,000,000 is $250,000. Would you pay tax attorneys and accountants $80,000 to save $250,000 on your taxes each year? The rich will find a way around any tax we throw their way. What needs to happen is a constant stream on new income, excise and luxury taxes aimed at the wealthy each year so they don't have time to find the loopholes.

It might happen in 25 years after we finally get back to the gilded age like the Republicans want but a lot of people are going to suffer so rich assholes like Romney can pay 15% on their millions and millions of income.

The US will look like Mexico if the Republicans get their way.
 
2012-10-27 09:21:07 AM
Oh noes! The Semi-Mental has endorsed Rmoney!

GAME OVER, MAN! GAME OVER!
 
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