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(Herald Online)   Now that you've finally upgraded to High Definition television, first Ultra High Definition televisions go on sale in US. Still no cure for Honey Boo Boo   (heraldonline.com) divider line 94
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2012-10-26 04:39:03 PM
There's some nightmare fuel for you - her mom in 4K resolution.

/now with more neck crust
 
2012-10-26 04:45:49 PM
HDTV:
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Ultra HDTV:
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-10-26 06:27:49 PM

Solkar: now with more neck crust


hork!
 
2012-10-26 07:07:18 PM
I love how the article is literally the LG press release verbatim.
 
2012-10-26 07:12:54 PM
I'll be interested in this once my cable broadcasts in 1080p.
 
2012-10-26 07:23:37 PM
In a related story, CNN's Candy Crowley walked off the news set today. Some onlookers quoted her as saying, "Ultra High Definition? ULTRA High Definition? F*ck this sh*t, I give up..."
 
2012-10-26 07:26:47 PM
FTFA: *No "ultra high definition" or "4K" video content is currently available. No broadcast or other standard currently exists for "4K" or "ultra high definition" television, and the 84LM9600 may or may not be compatible with such standards if and when developed.

Just like the googolphonic stereo with the moon rock needle.
 
2012-10-26 07:38:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I love how the article is literally the LG press release verbatim.


Of course it's the LG press release.

Are you expecting hardcore investigative journalism from PRNewswire or something?
 
2012-10-26 07:41:34 PM

Shostie: cameroncrazy1984: I love how the article is literally the LG press release verbatim.

Of course it's the LG press release.

Are you expecting hardcore investigative journalism from PRNewswire or something?


F*ck, man. It even says "By LG Electronics USA" in the byline.

Jesus Christ...
 
2012-10-26 07:46:46 PM
I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I mean, it's there, and it's noticeable, but it doesn't impact my viewing experience.

I don't even play bluray movies anymore, the technology is so grossly awful to deal with. On my current BR player, which is pretty good compared to others I've owned, most movies take 5 minutes to load, and heaven forbid you fark up and accidentally stop it or power it down halfway in. (I've heard good things about the PS3 capabilities but it's not really worth it to me at this point.)

I'm much happier playing from HDD or DVD, or my 1080p system.
 
2012-10-26 08:36:58 PM
In over 60 years, they still haven't gotten that "brightness" knob to work.
 
2012-10-26 08:38:12 PM
Man, just imagine the clarity of the C-section scars and needle tracks you'll see while watching porn on one of those babies!
 
2012-10-26 08:40:04 PM

bdub77: I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I mean, it's there, and it's noticeable, but it doesn't impact my viewing experience.


This. I have to really wonder about how big the difference between 1080p and 4k would look to a person sitting 2-3 meters away from a TV set.
 
2012-10-26 08:44:53 PM
This is gonna end up like that whole megapixel thing we were all obsessed with 5 years ago, or the DPI thing in printers we were all obsessed with 15 years ago.
 
2012-10-26 08:45:46 PM
Keeping my 10+ year old TV with low resolution prevents horking neck crust
 
2012-10-26 08:46:45 PM
This will be adopted very slowly, much like the 3D tv fiasco. Most people won't upgrade until it's forced on them (i.e., low-end basic tvs have this tech). I'm just very skeptical this significantly adds to the viewing experience beyond HDTV.
 
2012-10-26 08:48:56 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

A 4k projector might be good stuff. Might be a wash with an 84" monitor, since I think they might be about the same size.
 
2012-10-26 08:53:07 PM

bdub77: I don't even play bluray movies anymore, the technology is so grossly awful to deal with. On my current BR player, which is pretty good compared to others I've owned, most movies take 5 minutes to load, and heaven forbid you fark up and accidentally stop it or power it down halfway in. (I've heard good things about the PS3 capabilities but it's not really worth it to me at this point.)


Ain't DRM fun? I've never even bothered with bluray, precisely because of its craptastic user-unfriendliness.

The likelihood of 4k content ever making it to OTA broadcasts or anything else that isn't hobbled with even worse DRM than bluray is pretty farking close to zero. Besides, even 1080i is pretty damn good - 4k is a solution in search of a problem unless you're talking theater-sized screens.
 
2012-10-26 08:56:56 PM
what internet service provider is going to let me stream 4k on netflix? I don't think there is an ISP anywhere (I've been) in this country fast enough..

farkers.
 
2012-10-26 08:57:27 PM

wildcardjack: [imgs.xkcd.com image 389x337]

A 4k projector might be good stuff. Might be a wash with an 84" monitor, since I think they might be about the same size.


It baffles me that someone as smart as the guy that does XKCD doesn't seem understand the concept of angular resolution.
 
2012-10-26 09:05:31 PM

Baron Harkonnen: bdub77: I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I mean, it's there, and it's noticeable, but it doesn't impact my viewing experience.

This. I have to really wonder about how big the difference between 1080p and 4k would look to a person sitting 2-3 meters away from a TV set.


THIS! I mean, Fox broadcasts in 720p, and the sports on Fox look *great*! And yes, I have seen stuff in 1080p (Inglorious Basterds in 1080p is *fantastic* to watch), but the difference is between great, and somewhat greater. 4k is, possibly, *too* sharp a resolution (there is only too much an "artificial" sharpness a human eye and brain can handle).
 
2012-10-26 09:13:26 PM
I've been waiting to buy a new TV until 60" 4K sets are a) available and b) under $2k.

Do I need that for TV? No.
Do I need that for movies? No.
Do I need that for my PC that I use from my couch? Fark YES!

42" 1920x1080 is okay from 8' away, but it's still quite a step-down from back when I had a proper monitor in front of my face. I know upping the diagonal will shave off much of the gains made by doubling the resolution, but I would like a wider FOV than I currently have, and 60" of 1920x1080 just looks god-awful.
 
2012-10-26 09:14:47 PM
You folks can have yer damned high def flatscreens and all that crap. I'll stick to either watching things on my computer, or on my old CRT TV. I've watched things in high def on high def screens before at other places and I just don't get the draw. Ok, picture's sharper and all, so what? Does that make the story of whatever I'm watching any better? Does it make the actors/actresses any better? Does it make the team I'm watching catch better or run faster or something? No? Well then screw you guys, I'll stick to my CRT until it dies.

/I'm also cheap.
 
2012-10-26 09:16:56 PM
Meh, 99.9% of TV programming will stil suck, but just like a 20 dollar whore vs. a 5k call girl, still the same jizz.
 
2012-10-26 09:23:21 PM

rickycal78: You folks can have yer damned high def flatscreens and all that crap. I'll stick to either watching things on my computer, or on my old CRT TV. I've watched things in high def on high def screens before at other places and I just don't get the draw. Ok, picture's sharper and all, so what? Does that make the story of whatever I'm watching any better? Does it make the actors/actresses any better? Does it make the team I'm watching catch better or run faster or something? No? Well then screw you guys, I'll stick to my CRT until it dies.

/I'm also cheap.


It's pretty sweet to actually be able to see offensive line holding in football. Or the puck in hockey.

Plus, videogames.
 
2012-10-26 09:26:12 PM

qsblues: Meh, 99.9% of TV programming will stil suck, but just like a 20 dollar whore vs. a 5k call girl, still the same jizz.


You haven't bought the jizz upgrade? Weird
 
2012-10-26 09:27:30 PM

jso2897: In over 60 years, they still haven't gotten that "brightness" knob to work.


That's for the picture, not the TV personalities.
 
2012-10-26 09:31:00 PM
I'm understanding that 4K is the same resolution that feature films are rendered at (and projected at when a digital projector is in use). I know an engineer at Dolby, who tells me that the DRM on these projectors is far beyond what's in a Blu-Ray player.

I don't think it's impossible that we'll ever see 4K content, but I can't imagine it anytime this decade - America's internet pipes simply aren't fat enough to handle the streams (fark you Comcast and AT&T for ensuring that the US isn't even in the top 10 anymore on this count).
 
2012-10-26 09:31:52 PM
Someone notify when programming shows any signs at all of improving enough to justify a better TV.
 
2012-10-26 09:33:27 PM

Kuroshin: I've been waiting to buy a new TV until 60" 4K sets are a) available and b) under $2k.

Do I need that for TV? No.
Do I need that for movies? No.
Do I need that for my PC that I use from my couch? Fark YES!

42" 1920x1080 is okay from 8' away, but it's still quite a step-down from back when I had a proper monitor in front of my face. I know upping the diagonal will shave off much of the gains made by doubling the resolution, but I would like a wider FOV than I currently have, and 60" of 1920x1080 just looks god-awful.


That's the reason I use my P4 for most internetsing and only use my quad core for games and movies.
 
2012-10-26 09:33:51 PM
DRM? Oh you mean the reason piracy will never go away?
 
2012-10-26 09:34:43 PM

Dafatone: It's pretty sweet to actually be able to see offensive line holding in football. Or the puck in hockey.


THIS. In fact, I'm currently taking in a Chicago Wolves hockey game right now (Wolves lead 1-0 after 2 periods, BTW), and 720p is wonderful in this situation.

/fark you, Bettman, for trashing the NHL season
 
2012-10-26 09:42:35 PM
What GROUND BREAKING TECHNOLOGY! For only $20,000 USD you too can own the same LCD technology that has been sitting in your computer monitor for the last 6 years.

/TVs are such a farking rip off
 
2012-10-26 09:45:29 PM
Man my porn and video games going to look so good on that.
 
2012-10-26 09:46:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: I love how the article is literally the LG press release verbatim.


I believe in the 21st century, they call that "journalism."
 
2012-10-26 09:48:37 PM
What 4k will look like in the future:

fubegra.net
 
2012-10-26 09:50:10 PM
4K won't be adopted widespread if that's the only selling point, HDTV brought a lot of changes along with it in content delivery - some of which had nothing to do with HDTV itself (like digital delivery), 4K will only be adopted as simply a cog in a wider push in the evolution of home entertainment - this is reason 3DTV failed, nobody cares enough about an optional extra to buy another tv, but if they needed a new tv anyways then it's a nice extra (despite probably not being used anyways)
 
2012-10-26 09:52:31 PM
I still have an SD tube TV. We bought it in 2003-2004 or so when HDTV was still novel and LCD/Plasma prices were through the roof. I hate throwing away stuff that still works, so no upgrade likely soon. I have mixed feeling about this.
 
2012-10-26 09:53:58 PM
UHD is only useful for very large televisions that display 1080p with jagged edges. For normal consumers with a 30-50" television, there's just no need for it. That's why you only see UHD on 70" monster televisions.
 
2012-10-26 10:01:14 PM

natmar_76: UHD is only useful for very large televisions that display 1080p with jagged edges. For normal consumers with a 30-50" television, there's just no need for it. That's why you only see UHD on 70" monster televisions.


I guarantee you they'll be selling UHD TV's in the 30-50 inch range. There's a sucker born every minute.
 
2012-10-26 10:02:40 PM
4K won't be a broadcast resolution. The OTA bandwidth just isn't there. For disc media, even a Blu-Ray would struggle to contain enough data. For internet downloads, yeah, not likely anytime soon.

The human eye flat cannot discern the difference between 720p and 1080p for normal viewing distances with fairly normally sized screens. While you might notice the difference between 1080p and 4K on a really huge screen, it would take mammoth screens for that to matter.

It's probably going to stay on the very high end for people with lots of disposable income. I really don't think everybody's 1080p or even 720p TVs are going anywhere anytime soon. IMO, it's probably going to be like 3D- something very few even bother with.
 
2012-10-26 10:06:53 PM
www.goldenspatula.net

Good, those spatula commercials will look amazing!
 
2012-10-26 10:15:07 PM
I will say this, though. LG makes some damn fine televisions for the price point.

// This is just a general statement about the brand, and not particularly in reference to this 4k monstrosity.
 
2012-10-26 10:32:41 PM

Oreamnos: I still have an SD tube TV. We bought it in 2003-2004 or so when HDTV was still novel and LCD/Plasma prices were through the roof. I hate throwing away stuff that still works, so no upgrade likely soon. I have mixed feeling about this.


I've got one of those. A 32" I think. That thing weighs a farking ton
 
2012-10-26 10:38:59 PM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: *No "ultra high definition" or "4K" video content is currently available. No broadcast or other standard currently exists for "4K" or "ultra high definition" television, and the 84LM9600 may or may not be compatible with such standards if and when developed.

Just like the googolphonic stereo with the moon rock needle.


Steve is that you?!?!
/love that bit
 
2012-10-26 10:54:07 PM

Fubegra: bdub77: I don't even play bluray movies anymore, the technology is so grossly awful to deal with. On my current BR player, which is pretty good compared to others I've owned, most movies take 5 minutes to load, and heaven forbid you fark up and accidentally stop it or power it down halfway in. (I've heard good things about the PS3 capabilities but it's not really worth it to me at this point.)

Ain't DRM fun? I've never even bothered with bluray, precisely because of its craptastic user-unfriendliness.

The likelihood of 4k content ever making it to OTA broadcasts or anything else that isn't hobbled with even worse DRM than bluray is pretty farking close to zero. Besides, even 1080i is pretty damn good - 4k is a solution in search of a problem unless you're talking theater-sized screens.


HDDVD loaded way faster, but then the copyright protection wasn't perceived to be as good, so it died.

/still have my toshiba a3...
 
2012-10-26 11:03:50 PM

Baron Harkonnen: bdub77: I can barely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I mean, it's there, and it's noticeable, but it doesn't impact my viewing experience.

This. I have to really wonder about how big the difference between 1080p and 4k would look to a person sitting 2-3 meters away from a TV set.


The fact they're debuting its release at 84" is your answer.
 
2012-10-26 11:05:58 PM
www.big13.net
 
2012-10-26 11:12:37 PM
I thought we just got a new status symbol with the mini-pad.

/Or was it the new iphone?
 
2012-10-26 11:13:20 PM
I guess this gives the cable companies a new excuse to jack up fees.
 
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