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2012-10-27 01:38:50 PM  
Holly crap! Samsung's phones have rounded corners. How could the innovative genii at Apple who innovatively created corners that were not razor sharp allow Samsung to steal such incredible innovation as that from them?

/never met an Apple developer that wasn't a 3rd grader with an undeserved attitude
 
2012-10-27 01:52:03 PM  

intelligent comment below: jjorsett: I'm completely serious. Just built an Android app for the military.

Teabagger takes government handouts to pay the bills. I love hypocrisy


Wow, that wounds me to the quick. Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan. And hopefully it will find some use by other military members as well, once my friends have tried it out in the field. Keep hope alive, though, maybe that all-consuming hate that you lefties use as your primary fuel source will one day find a useful outlet.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-27 01:54:47 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: jjorsett: There are certain drawbacks such as a multitude of screen sizes, OS versions, and feature sets, which makes it tricky to get an app running on all possible devices...

As a PC developer, it somewhat boggles my mind that people think these issues are even worth mentioning. Those are just a given for most computing environments.


I hear it cited as one of the reasons that developing for the iPhone is supposed to be easier than for Android. Fewer configurations to have to worry about and adapt to.
 
2012-10-27 02:03:30 PM  

jjorsett: intelligent comment below: jjorsett: I'm completely serious. Just built an Android app for the military.

Teabagger takes government handouts to pay the bills. I love hypocrisy

Wow, that wounds me to the quick. Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan. And hopefully it will find some use by other military members as well, once my friends have tried it out in the field. Keep hope alive, though, maybe that all-consuming hate that you lefties use as your primary fuel source will one day find a useful outlet.

[i49.tinypic.com image 180x250]


That paragraph is such a pack of lies, it boggles the mind that you felt you needed to go there to maintain your "cred".

Go ahead, point us to the "app" and prove me wrong.
 
2012-10-27 02:10:22 PM  

jjorsett: Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan.


This Palin statement makes no sense, unless you weren't talking about the military at all but rather a church missionary group or something.
 
2012-10-27 02:20:41 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: jjorsett: Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan.

This Palin statement makes no sense, unless you weren't talking about the military at all but rather a church missionary group or something.


Oh no. The MILITARY is doing volunteer missions in Afghanistan. He "just made" an app for them. No need for it to be okay'd by the military, and the military accepts free apps all the time, with no review necessary! They know he is COOL...

What a farking moron.
 
2012-10-27 02:23:13 PM  

jjorsett: I hear it cited as one of the reasons that developing for the iPhone is supposed to be easier than for Android. Fewer configurations to have to worry about and adapt to.


Sure, that's great for iOS (although I imagine this advantage has been significantly eroded because of the tablets and iPhone 5). But you hear so much whining about fragmentation in Android that you'd think it's a problem unique to that environment in all of the industry. It's like none of these people have ever had to deal with a resizable dialog or a farking webpage. If you're writing GUIs then handling dynamic layouts is a very fundamental skill, and dealing with different OS versions is a simple matter of determining which APIs you'll be using and targeting the earliest supported version. biatching about basic stuff like this reminds me of CS students whining about having to manage memory in C/C++. They're the complaints of amateurs.

/steps down from soapbox
 
2012-10-27 02:50:45 PM  

Nexzus: The S3's a good phone, but it can be annoying to use.
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 360x640]


Try charging your battery.
 
2012-10-27 02:55:14 PM  

mediablitz: Yankees Team Gynecologist: jjorsett: Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan.

This Palin statement makes no sense, unless you weren't talking about the military at all but rather a church missionary group or something.

Oh no. The MILITARY is doing volunteer missions in Afghanistan. He "just made" an app for them. No need for it to be okay'd by the military, and the military accepts free apps all the time, with no review necessary! They know he is COOL...

What a farking moron.


---

It's the right-wing way nowadays:

1. Have no idea how X works
2. Invent imaginary world where X works how you wish it does, according to what you feel (not know)
3. Make comments, and vote, based on the premise of #2

Replace X with the military, economy, government, etc.
 
2012-10-27 02:58:55 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: It's the right-wing way nowadays:

1. Have no idea how X works
2. Invent imaginary world where X works how you wish it does, according to what you feel (not know)
3. Make comments, and vote, based on the premise of #2

Replace X with the military, economy, government, etc.


By the way, the left used to be huge offenders in this regard. I used to lean right, and I think it's fair to say I've changed a little, but it's more the right having gone full retard.
 
2012-10-27 06:21:36 PM  
I have a Huawei Ideos, so I'm really uncool, I guess.

I text. I don't even make phone calls. I've never been struck by the urge to google things whist I'm out and about. Not being a directionally-challenged learned-helpless idiot, I've never needed GPS, so it's off. I don't facebook or twitter so I don't feel adrift in a loveless universe if I can't tell people my "status" every 10 minutes. So I have basically no use for any of the "smart" features of a "smart" phone.

The RRP for both the 16GB iPhone 5 and Samsung Galaxy SIII in New Zealand is $1,049.

1. Why would I pay over $1,000 for a PHONE
2. No price fixing going on there, I'm sure. It's just a coincidence the RRP is identical.

/That's US$863
 
2012-10-27 07:17:08 PM  

jjorsett: I hear it cited as one of the reasons that developing for the iPhone is supposed to be easier than for Android. Fewer configurations to have to worry about and adapt to.


The whole way that Android apps are designed is that dialogues are size independent. You, as the developer don't even have to know what resolution you're dealing with, if you don't want to. This does mean that upfront, you have to think some more about your application than just specifying x,y coordinates. The problem is that once iOS got the longer screen of the iPhone 5, they had the same problem. They couldn't pull a trick like doubling pixels (as they did for the iPad). They had to implement something very similar to Android in terms of resolution independence.

This does mean that you probably want to test it on a few devices of different size and shape, but you certainly don't need to test it on each one. And there's nothing revolutionary about this. Microsoft have something very similar to this in XAML which is used in WPF and Silverlight and guess what? Developers cope with it just fine.

So, in summary: Android fragmentation is a lying fanboy whine.
 
2012-10-27 08:28:31 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: This kind of pointless bickering is why I have the ultimate phone- bow before

[www.cellguru.net image 458x332]

Suck it haters.


ASCII porn ftw
 
2012-10-27 10:48:02 PM  

farkeruk: jjorsett: I hear it cited as one of the reasons that developing for the iPhone is supposed to be easier than for Android. Fewer configurations to have to worry about and adapt to.

The whole way that Android apps are designed is that dialogues are size independent. You, as the developer don't even have to know what resolution you're dealing with, if you don't want to. This does mean that upfront, you have to think some more about your application than just specifying x,y coordinates. The problem is that once iOS got the longer screen of the iPhone 5, they had the same problem. They couldn't pull a trick like doubling pixels (as they did for the iPad). They had to implement something very similar to Android in terms of resolution independence.

This does mean that you probably want to test it on a few devices of different size and shape, but you certainly don't need to test it on each one. And there's nothing revolutionary about this. Microsoft have something very similar to this in XAML which is used in WPF and Silverlight and guess what? Developers cope with it just fine.

So, in summary: Android fragmentation is a lying fanboy whine.


I know that I tested mine on several different Android devices (Nexus 7, HTC Evo 3D, and HTC Incredible, plus a few different virtual ones) and ended up having to redo the layout a couple of times in order to make sure it would work on a wide range of screen sizes. Although it's possible to alter the layout dynamically according to the device's characteristics, I didn't feel like going to the trouble of doing that on this go around until I got some feedback from the users. Depending on the devices they choose to run on and what features, if any, they want added, I might go to the additional trouble. I also ran into a little difficulty with the Nexus 7 until I discovered that I had to target the build to an earlier version of Android before the Nexus 7 would let me have an Options Menu. So there's a certain amount of tinkering that has to be done to accommodate the variety of devices, but well worth it.
 
2012-10-27 11:03:18 PM  

mediablitz: jjorsett: intelligent comment below: jjorsett: I'm completely serious. Just built an Android app for the military.

Teabagger takes government handouts to pay the bills. I love hypocrisy

Wow, that wounds me to the quick. Too bad for your narrative that I built it for free because the end users are buddies of mine and needed this for their volunteer mission to Afghanistan. And hopefully it will find some use by other military members as well, once my friends have tried it out in the field. Keep hope alive, though, maybe that all-consuming hate that you lefties use as your primary fuel source will one day find a useful outlet.

[i49.tinypic.com image 180x250]

That paragraph is such a pack of lies, it boggles the mind that you felt you needed to go there to maintain your "cred".

Go ahead, point us to the "app" and prove me wrong.


Are you actually stupid enough to install an app that some stranger points you to? Wait, I withdraw the question. Of course you are.
 
2012-10-28 01:53:32 AM  
Just bought an S3 tonight. (My old LG flip-phone was 6 years old and falling apart at the hinge) Looked at the Note 2, but it was a little bigger than I'd want to put in a pocket, and I'd rather get a full size tablet for tablet stuff.
 
2012-10-28 05:41:05 AM  

jjorsett: I know that I tested mine on several different Android devices (Nexus 7, HTC Evo 3D, and HTC Incredible, plus a few different virtual ones) and ended up having to redo the layout a couple of times in order to make sure it would work on a wide range of screen sizes. Although it's possible to alter the layout dynamically according to the device's characteristics, I didn't feel like going to the trouble of doing that on this go around until I got some feedback from the users. Depending on the devices they choose to run on and what features, if any, they want added, I might go to the additional trouble. I also ran into a little difficulty with the Nexus 7 until I discovered that I had to target the build to an earlier version of Android before the Nexus 7 would let me have an Options Menu. So there's a certain amount of tinkering that has to be done to accommodate the variety of devices, but well worth it.


I'm not saying that getting the layout right isn't more effort than just using points on the screen. It's that Apple's "points on the screen" was a short term approach and was going to break the minute that they couldn't double or quadruple the resolution. Everyone who wrote apps for the iPhone 4S (unless they'd use some sort of resolution-independence library) either had to redo the layout for the iPhone 5, or have users with black borders.
 
2012-10-28 06:15:05 AM  
>>JohnBigBootay: Please. Samsung has sold a goddam gazillion phones. I even have one and I love the damn thing. That said I find cheering for corporations an extremely odd activity.

>gingerjet:Just goes to show you that most farkers don't have a fark'n clue about corporations. Samsung is a huge multi-national company with deep ties in oil, shipbuilding, chemicals and a dozen other businesses (some of them rather sketchy). The company has been charged and fined with price fixing and has had rather sketchy labor history including employing children.

But since its not Apple - that makes Samsung just hunky dory.

~
~
I got to this point and had to skip ahead to comment. How many more people are going to read stuff into JohnBigBootay's comment that simply isn't there? Hilarious to watch the total derp pile up.

However, in terms of TOTAL DERP FOR ONE COMMENT, pute kisses like a man's reply to Mitch Taylor's Bro is without peer:

>>Mitch Taylor's Bro:
1. The nature of technology means that even if your gadget is "the best" when you bought it, it will soon be second-best, then third-best, etc., ad infinitum.
2. Your last sentence implies that companies copy what sells. But if people "want their gadgets to be the best," they how would a crappy gadget maker get rewarded?
3. Your shift key is broken.

>pute kisses like a man: really? did I piss on your favorite product? I don't give a fark about either product. add some subjectivity to the notion of 'best' and i think your first two problems will be solved. regarding your third one, so sorry.
 
2012-10-28 11:22:25 AM  
Your choice of a mobile communications device is as meaningless as your existence.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-28 02:12:41 PM  
I was planning on making fun of apple, but it looks like everyone else beat me to it. Apple...the new Microsoft.
 
2012-10-28 03:21:48 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: SVenus: Biggest difference is the giant screen. Got a friend who was looking forward to getting a bigger screen on his iPhone, and while it's a great phone, the increase in size of his screen was just a tiny bit.
Once you put a Otter Box on the thing, it ends up being a bit bigger than seen in the "your thumb goes from here... to there..." commercials.

The iPhone has a great and bright screen, and a great camera. So, it's not a loss. And they're painlessly easy to work.

I have to say, pixel for pixel, the retina display is the best--nothing else comes close IMO, and the main reason for this is simply that there's less glass in front. This makes it more closely resemble print than anything else, and there doesn't seem to be much compromise in durability because it seems to perform okay in scratch/drop tests. All other phones look like the actual display is "behind" something, while with the iPhone it's right there.

That said, the screen is still too small for my tastes. Somehow it barely feels any larger than the 4S. A 4.5"+ retina display would probably be pretty amazing.


The screen on my HTC One X is fantastic, 4.7 inch, higher resolution than the iPhone (can actually play HD video at 720p which the iPhone cant), bigger screen and checking it out side by side with an iPhone it looks great.. That's even with the cheap screen protector on my phone. And it never feels bulky or a pain to carry round. I forgot about the size until I put it next to an iPhone...

Battery life is also great. I have sometimes forgotten to plug it in at night and it has lasted until the following evening with reasonable, use.
 
2012-10-29 12:38:21 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: This kind of pointless bickering is why I have the ultimate phone- bow before

[www.cellguru.net image 458x332]

Suck it haters.


And pressing "0" will connect you to
a live Jitterbug Operator:
sydneyswingkatz.com.au 

/They do look much hepper than the average Apple fanboy/fangirl.
 
2012-10-29 10:07:42 AM  

Flint Ironstag: The screen on my HTC One X is fantastic, 4.7 inch, higher resolution than the iPhone (can actually play HD video at 720p which the iPhone cant), bigger screen and checking it out side by side with an iPhone it looks great.. That's even with the cheap screen protector on my phone. And it never feels bulky or a pain to carry round. I forgot about the size until I put it next to an iPhone...


I have actually never used a One X or S, but I have heard that it too has that close-to-the-surface quality, so I'll have to check it out.
 
2012-10-29 10:20:28 AM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: Flint Ironstag: The screen on my HTC One X is fantastic, 4.7 inch, higher resolution than the iPhone (can actually play HD video at 720p which the iPhone cant), bigger screen and checking it out side by side with an iPhone it looks great.. That's even with the cheap screen protector on my phone. And it never feels bulky or a pain to carry round. I forgot about the size until I put it next to an iPhone...

I have actually never used a One X or S, but I have heard that it too has that close-to-the-surface quality, so I'll have to check it out.


They're perfectly good phones, and if I didn't get an S3 I would have gotten the One X.
 
2012-10-29 10:24:06 AM  

Big Ramifications: However, in terms of TOTAL DERP FOR ONE COMMENT, pute kisses like a man's reply to Mitch Taylor's Bro is without peer:

>>Mitch Taylor's Bro:
1. The nature of technology means that even if your gadget is "the best" when you bought it, it will soon be second-best, then third-best, etc., ad infinitum.
2. Your last sentence implies that companies copy what sells. But if people "want their gadgets to be the best," they how would a crappy gadget maker get rewarded?
3. Your shift key is broken.

>pute kisses like a man: really? did I piss on your favorite product? I don't give a fark about either product. add some subjectivity to the notion of 'best' and i think your first two problems will be solved. regarding your third one, so sorry.


thanks, I'll be here all week.

I'm sure that there was a context within which my comment may have made sense. someone else said something about corporatism as a religion in america, and I thought that was nonsense. It began as a argument to suggest that people may applaud a company's products without devolving into 'corporatism', i suggested that it is more likely that someone applauds a company because they like its product as opposed to the notion that a person likes a product because they have been indoctrinated to love that corporation. I doubt that I had said anything revolutionary, though it was attacked with some vitriol. So, I assumed I had accidentally struck some chord. it may have been an inaccurate assumption, but without that assumption, the response was just madness.
 
2012-10-29 10:45:29 AM  

emocomputerjock: They're perfectly good phones, and if I didn't get an S3 I would have gotten the One X.


I know--all these phones are great, and they all have great screens. I was specifically talking about one aspect of the screen, which is how close the pixels are to the surface (closer means it looks more like print). In my experience the iPhone stands out in this regard, although I have heard the HTC One does too I just haven't used one yet. I have used the S3, and while it is an amazing phone overall (I'd get it over the iPhone) I think the Retina Display beats it handily in just that close-to-the-surface regard.
 
2012-10-29 05:49:11 PM  

SVenus: Flint Ironstag: Especially when the "cheap knock off" has better spec, more features and less restricted operation....

Biggest difference is the giant screen. Got a friend who was looking forward to getting a bigger screen on his iPhone, and while it's a great phone, the increase in size of his screen was just a tiny bit.
Once you put a Otter Box on the thing, it ends up being a bit bigger than seen in the "your thumb goes from here... to there..." commercials.

The iPhone has a great and bright screen, and a great camera. So, it's not a loss. And they're painlessly easy to work.

I've learned that if you break the screen on the S3 like I did, it's twice as expensive to replace the thing as a simple cracked glass screen on the iPhone.

But at the moment, I'm lusting over the Note II, because I have big hands and
(I'll say this slowly for the ladies)
MY thumb goes from here... to there...


Half an inch on the screen?
 
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