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(Think Progress)   Romney campaign chair John Sununu decides to go there as to why Gen. Colin Powell endorsed President Obama   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 168
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2012-10-25 11:42:12 PM
And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.
 
2012-10-25 11:44:32 PM
Nah. Powell supports Obama because Romney is an asshole.
 
2012-10-25 11:48:10 PM
John Sununu says something blisteringly stupid?

Well, I'm shocked.
 
2012-10-25 11:50:33 PM
From the comments:
He voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because its called Job Security, and the fact there was no white candidate opposing Bush. He voted for Obama in 2008, and will vote for him again this year, because both are black, and because Powell never had a shred of Republican in him to begin with. Whats wrong with telling the truth once in a while? Obama should try it.

That's right, Gore and Kerry, both black.
And I'd say going to the UN to push the Bush administration's lies about Iraq pretty well qualifies him as a Republican.
 
2012-10-26 02:54:41 AM
I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.
 
2012-10-26 02:55:45 AM

propasaurus: From the comments:
He voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because its called Job Security, and the fact there was no white candidate opposing Bush. He voted for Obama in 2008, and will vote for him again this year, because both are black, and because Powell never had a shred of Republican in him to begin with. Whats wrong with telling the truth once in a while? Obama should try it.

That's right, Gore and Kerry, both black.
And I'd say going to the UN to push the Bush administration's lies about Iraq pretty well qualifies him as a Republican.


I think he meant to say "there was no black candidate opposing Bush". Either way, he's an idiot.
 
2012-10-26 02:58:14 AM
wait...

He voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because its called Job Security, and the fact there was no white candidate opposing Bush. He voted for Obama in 2008, and will vote for him again this year, because both are black, and because Powell never had a shred of Republican in him to begin with. Whats wrong with telling the truth once in a while? Obama should try it.

So he voted for Obama, not because he agrees with him, It's because he's black. Oh, and because he agrees with him, AND he's black?
 
2012-10-26 02:59:03 AM
Sununu releases statement in response to controversy:

Colin Powell is a friend and I respect the endorsement decision he made, I do not doubt that it was based on anything but his support of the President's policies.


Ummm....he's still saying Powell did it cause he's black.

"I do not doubt" = "I believe"
"it was based on anything but his support of the President's policies" = "his support was not based on the President's policies"

"I believe""his support was not based on the President's policies."
 
2012-10-26 03:00:42 AM
inlinethumb59.webshots.com
 
2012-10-26 03:01:37 AM
OMG he really went there. yeah he is a dumb fark .
 
2012-10-26 03:03:18 AM

log_jammin: I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.


oh, if only wishing made it so
 
2012-10-26 03:03:51 AM
This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.
 
2012-10-26 03:04:38 AM
I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed
 
2012-10-26 03:04:56 AM

intelligent comment below: But don't you dare call them racist


You're the racist for thinking this is racist, racist.

Hang on a second, I just said "racist" 3 times... what does that mean?
 
2012-10-26 03:05:27 AM
Doesn't matter, had Sununu...
 
2012-10-26 03:06:57 AM
I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.
 
2012-10-26 03:07:30 AM
Oh my farking God. Can you stop it? I mean walk over the border, race and sexual orientation is a non issue. Evolve.
 
2012-10-26 03:09:10 AM

ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.



No way. This close to the election, it's solidarity all the way through. It's why Mourdock didn't get thrown under the bus the way Akin did. They'll do exactly what they did for Mourdock: say they disagree with the statement and then start talking about the greatness of John Sununu.

They won't chance giving the media anything to work with.

 
 
2012-10-26 03:09:53 AM

powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed


If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.
 
2012-10-26 03:11:00 AM

Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.


You said it better than I ever could have.
 
2012-10-26 03:11:43 AM
 
2012-10-26 03:14:40 AM

ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.


Sure. Like someone who believes in the Mark of Ham is going to get annoyed at this.
 
2012-10-26 03:15:30 AM
So what IS the nutritional content of shoe leather, anyway? After the last year for the GOP, someone has to have done some kind of study. Romney has his foot in his mouth pretty much 24/7, so he's either got nutrients being delivered intravenously, off camera, or you can live pretty decently this way.
 
2012-10-26 03:15:47 AM

Genevieve Marie: ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.


No way. This close to the election, it's solidarity all the way through. It's why Mourdock didn't get thrown under the bus the way Akin did. They'll do exactly what they did for Mourdock: say they disagree with the statement and then start talking about the greatness of John Sununu.

They won't chance giving the media anything to work with.


Care to make a $10,000 bet?

/I don't have $10,000
//I do have much more than that in student debt, if you'd like to win some of that
 
2012-10-26 03:16:17 AM

ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.


Romney will give the standard non-apology apology - "His words were misconstrued, blah blah" - then double down on backing him.

Guaran-friggin'-teed. He's just that clueless.
 
2012-10-26 03:17:35 AM
There was a time in the mid-90s when I figured Colin would be our first black president. I really did.
 
2012-10-26 03:18:56 AM

Ed Grubermann: ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.

Sure. Like someone who believes in the Mark of Ham is going to get annoyed at this.


Wow. I had no idea what that was until now. Jesus Chri... I mean... Joseph Smith, that's terrifying.
 
2012-10-26 03:18:57 AM

Blue_Blazer: powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed

If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.


Which is a damn shame. But I feel for ya. My mother is in the same boat. Regarding "anybody but N0bama" anyways. I'm sure it's pretty much one and the same. They all hate the blahhhh.
 
2012-10-26 03:20:11 AM
Romney will help restore our Anglo-Saxon heritage.
 
2012-10-26 03:20:27 AM

Omahawg: There was a time in the mid-90s when I figured Colin would be our first black president. I really did.



Yup. I read his book in high school, and I thought the same thing.
 
2012-10-26 03:22:16 AM

powhound: Blue_Blazer: powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed

If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.

Which is a damn shame. But I feel for ya. My mother is in the same boat. Regarding "anybody but N0bama" anyways. I'm sure it's pretty much one and the same. They all hate the blahhhh.


I just let him enjoy what I hope is his last chance to bask in the former glory days of the Old Grandpa Party. He knows Obama is gonna win, since all the blacks will be bused in to vote for Obama.
 
2012-10-26 03:26:56 AM
mimg.ugo.com

RIP Snu Snu
 
2012-10-26 03:28:27 AM
Old guy clause in effect * Before everybody was so farking worried that everything they said was going to be broadcast around the world seconds later and split into a billion arguments they said what they felt like saying.

Why is it wrong for a black guy to vote for a black guy because he is black? I am Irish Catholic and my family still have pictures of JFK on their walls. I would love to see a Shamus Kelly in office. When Jon Stewart is elected president in 2016 Jews will create a new, completely flavor free dish named after him for sure, and they should! It isn't racist to want to see people like you succeed, it is racist to want those who are different from you fail.

I am with Morgan Freeman - if we want to really stop racism in this country then STOP talking about it. We give it power it doesn't deserve by blabbing away about "equality" rather than just living and letting our best people do their best work. Titty Sprinkles.
 
2012-10-26 03:28:31 AM
Isn't Powell from Kenya? I'm just asking questions here.
 
2012-10-26 03:29:22 AM

Blue_Blazer: powhound: Blue_Blazer: powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed

If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.

Which is a damn shame. But I feel for ya. My mother is in the same boat. Regarding "anybody but N0bama" anyways. I'm sure it's pretty much one and the same. They all hate the blahhhh.

I just let him enjoy what I hope is his last chance to bask in the former glory days of the Old Grandpa Party. He knows Obama is gonna win, since all the blacks will be bused in to vote for Obama.


lol. Please tell me they aren't being bused in from Kenya?!!????!
 
2012-10-26 03:31:36 AM

powhound: Blue_Blazer: powhound: Blue_Blazer: powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed

If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.

Which is a damn shame. But I feel for ya. My mother is in the same boat. Regarding "anybody but N0bama" anyways. I'm sure it's pretty much one and the same. They all hate the blahhhh.

I just let him enjoy what I hope is his last chance to bask in the former glory days of the Old Grandpa Party. He knows Obama is gonna win, since all the blacks will be bused in to vote for Obama.

lol. Please tell me they aren't being bused in from Kenya?!!????!


We'll never really know I guess....
 
2012-10-26 03:34:10 AM

pissedoffmick: I am with Morgan Freeman - if we want to really stop racism in this country then STOP talking about it. We give it power it doesn't deserve by blabbing away about "equality" rather than just living and letting our best people do their best work


Yea, it doesn't work like that. In fact, that approach is why so many people have a hard time even recognizing racism.

 Here, here's one article on this subject. There are many. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/colorblind/201112/colorblind-ideo l ogy-is-form-racism

 
 
2012-10-26 03:34:58 AM
The moment I heard about Powell's endorsement I wondered

-how long until?

-who will be the first dick to say it?
 
2012-10-26 03:36:36 AM

log_jammin: I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.


Just between the ears.
 
2012-10-26 03:37:25 AM

powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed


Hard to be pissed about that lot eating each other alive. Schadenfreude, on the other hand...
 
2012-10-26 03:37:50 AM
I for one am enjoying watching the Republicans implode under the weight of their own derp.

I wonder why Romney is avoiding the national media like going on Letterman, O'Reilly, ect. So he wont have to talk about his positions to a national audience?
 
2012-10-26 03:38:40 AM
Is America ready for a white president?
 
2012-10-26 03:41:29 AM

skinnycatullus: And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.


I'm actually not so sure that this one is more offensive than his "Obama needs to learn to be an American" comment. That was equally disgusting IMHO.
 
2012-10-26 03:41:33 AM

Genevieve Marie: pissedoffmick: I am with Morgan Freeman - if we want to really stop racism in this country then STOP talking about it. We give it power it doesn't deserve by blabbing away about "equality" rather than just living and letting our best people do their best work

Yea, it doesn't work like that. In fact, that approach is why so many people have a hard time even recognizing racism.

 Here, here's one article on this subject. There are many. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/colorblind/201112/colorblind-ideo l ogy-is-form-racism
Yea, it doesn't work like that. In fact, that approach is why so many people have a hard time even recognizing racism.

 Here, here's one article on this subject. There are many. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/colorblind/201112/colorblind-ideo l ogy-is-form-racism/i>

I will read it - thanks. Is "not recognizing racism" now a BAD thing? As long as you are on top of the solution - what is it?

 
2012-10-26 03:41:38 AM

ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.



Mr. John Sunuh... Sunuh... Suh-not gonna work here anymore, anyway.
 
2012-10-26 03:41:44 AM

kmmontandon: John Sununu says something blisteringly stupid?

Well, I'm shocked.


this.jpg
 
2012-10-26 03:43:29 AM
Congrats, Sunununu, you have reached Limbaugh-esque levels shiatheadedness.
 
2012-10-26 03:45:25 AM
Sununu, indefensible and built to stay that way

/children of the 80s will get the reference
 
2012-10-26 03:50:55 AM

pissedoffmick: I will read it - thanks. Is "not recognizing racism" now a BAD thing? As long as you are on top of the solution - what is it?


That's kind of the problem- there is no quick and easy solution for something that's been built into every social structure we have. We're looking at a tradition of discrimination in this country that goes back to the formation of the original colonies. Legal segregation based on race was legal until my mother was 11 years old. That's one generation back. You can't undo the harm from that overnight. Recognizing that legacy is important though.

Read the article. Then do a little more research on a color-blind approach to studying racial issues. Basically, by empasizing only the way people are similar- we lose the ability to recognize the ways in which we're different. In this country, that often translates to differences in available education and career opportunities, in family income, and in other similar areas. There's another good piece on that- it's called "Unpacking the Invisible Backpack" and it's a classic piece on this issue.

I don't want to get too Tolstoy- but glossing over and ignoring all the ways in which racism has shaped our country is how you get ideas like "Welfare Queens". It's easy to look at poor black neighborhoods that have lived in poverty with disdain if you think they've had the same opportunities as you and simply chose not to take them. The tendency to do that has worked its way into our political system in really, really damaging ways.
 
2012-10-26 03:53:59 AM

intelligent comment below: pissedoffmick: I am with Morgan Freeman - if we want to really stop racism in this country then STOP talking about it. We give it power it doesn't deserve by blabbing away about "equality" rather than just living and letting our best people do their best work. Titty Sprinkles.


Morgan Freeman? What does he have his Ph.D. in? Social sciences?

Tell me all about how a white person and black person have the same chances in life. They both just need to work hard and they will both magically succeed.

How does it feel to live in such a delusional bubble?


It's ok most of the time - thanks so much for asking. I sometimes think that popular people, even those without doctorate degrees (who are actually black) who have created enormous success for themselves from nothing might have offer some perspective. I do think Rosa Parks was a real coont though - no degree havin' coont.
 
2012-10-26 03:55:33 AM
Oh here's the piece I was talking about- Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack. It's worth a read if any of the stuff I've said is of any interest.

http://ted.coe.wayne.edu/ele3600/mcintosh.html 
 
2012-10-26 03:57:32 AM

Genevieve Marie: pissedoffmick: I will read it - thanks. Is "not recognizing racism" now a BAD thing? As long as you are on top of the solution - what is it?

That's kind of the problem- there is no quick and easy solution for something that's been built into every social structure we have. We're looking at a tradition of discrimination in this country that goes back to the formation of the original colonies. Legal segregation based on race was legal until my mother was 11 years old. That's one generation back. You can't undo the harm from that overnight. Recognizing that legacy is important though.

Read the article. Then do a little more research on a color-blind approach to studying racial issues. Basically, by empasizing only the way people are similar- we lose the ability to recognize the ways in which we're different. In this country, that often translates to differences in available education and career opportunities, in family income, and in other similar areas. There's another good piece on that- it's called "Unpacking the Invisible Backpack" and it's a classic piece on this issue.

I don't want to get too Tolstoy- but glossing over and ignoring all the ways in which racism has shaped our country is how you get ideas like "Welfare Queens". It's easy to look at poor black neighborhoods that have lived in poverty with disdain if you think they've had the same opportunities as you and simply chose not to take them. The tendency to do that has worked its way into our political system in really, really damaging ways.


It is kinda cute that you assume I am white.
 
2012-10-26 03:58:16 AM

Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.


This, this and more this.

Apparently, only WHITE people vote based on rational thought. Black (and presumably brown, also yellow and red people) only vote based on skin color. Ergo, while a WHITE person might vote for a black (brown, yellow, red) person because they find their politics amenable, a person of color ONLY votes for such a person based on skin tone--although if they voted for a white person, it can only be because of the white person's superior political stance.

Why not just get out the hoods and sheets while you're at it, Sununu? Trot out the ol' bell curve while you're at it and unpack all those hoary old racist theories too. Let's get it all out there. Hell, go ahead and call General Powell a n*gger too, you're on a roll.
 
2012-10-26 04:01:05 AM

WhyteRaven74: Sununu, indefensible and built to stay that way

/children of the 80s will get the reference


(He's lying.)
 
2012-10-26 04:01:33 AM

pissedoffmick: It is kinda cute that you assume I am white.


Point to one thing I said where I made that assumption. You could *maybe* make the argument that I trended there in my third paragraph, but I tried to make it pretty clear that I was using "You" in the general sense there.

 Also, although I do make a conscious effort not to make that assumption when I talk about this stuff: you identified yourself as an Irish Cathollc and indicated that your family aligned racially with JFK, so... that would be a pretty decent reason to assume you were white- if that assumption was even relavent to anything I just said.
 
2012-10-26 04:06:42 AM
Look, this isn't new. They said the same things when Powell endorsed Obama in '08. I suppose the difference this time around is that someone directly connected to the campaign said it, instead of just the usual talking heads. But it's the same recycled crap.

And if you think this will have any impact whatsoever you're sadly mistaken. It won't be a blip in the campaigns, it'll have no impact in the polls, and there will be absolutely no repercussions for Sununu. He did his job, he got the nasty bit of messaging out there so Romney could keep his hands clean. If Romney wins, Sununu has a Cabinet position waiting for him.
 
2012-10-26 04:08:53 AM

intelligent comment below: pissedoffmick: might have offer some perspective


They sure do, perspective about their lives only. What next, you're going to quote Bill Cosby? You sound concerned for the plight of the black man. Only an educated research professional can make such blanket claims about an entire group of people. That's why you don't listen to celebrities unless they are only speaking about themselves. It's the only thing they know well.


Wow. I presented an opinion that was most prominently promoted by a popular american celebrity. That if race were talked about less and people were simply judged on their individual merits our country might be better off. I apologize. How that concept ended up with me being the dick I have no earthy idea. I can only say that in my life, considering people solely on their merits has been and continues to be wonderful.
 
2012-10-26 04:13:28 AM

pissedoffmick: How that concept ended up with me being the dick I have no earthy idea.



For what it's worth, I didn't think what you said was actively bad or malicious, I just thought that it showed that you probably haven't studied this stuff with any real depth- which is the case with most people, so I didn't view it as a negative character trait.

The "Oh, aren't you cute" line irked me a bit though.
 
2012-10-26 04:25:21 AM

intelligent comment below: pissedoffmick: Wow. I presented an opinion that was most prominently promoted by a popular american celebrity


And that totally makes it correct. My bad. Screw science, a CELEBRITY SAID IT

It must be true

pissedoffmick: I can only say that in my life, considering people solely on their merits has been and continues to be wonderful.


I bet you grew up in Comton. So you know all about the struggles of being black


Never claimed "truth" on anything asshole. Just offered an opinion. How about you make a counter point or STFU? Also, nobody grew up Comton you dunce.
 
2012-10-26 04:41:55 AM
I guess this probably isn't the best opportunity for an explanation of systemic misogyny, huh.

Ah well. Next time.
 
2012-10-26 04:50:01 AM

Genevieve Marie: I guess this probably isn't the best opportunity for an explanation of systemic misogyny, huh.

Ah well. Next time.


Hey hey - I typed "wonderful condescending person whos opinion I value" The filters do what they do.

1. to behave as if one is conscious of descending from a superior position, rank, or dignity.
 
2012-10-26 04:53:36 AM
It's cute when people think problems as vast and as ingrained into our society, like racism, will magically go away if we just don't talk about them.
 
2012-10-26 04:53:38 AM
Dude, I don't know what to tell you. Generally, if I take several minutes to work on a post and I bother to add citations and reading suggestions, it's because I'm genuinely trying to have a discussion on the topic at hand. You chose to interpret it differently, as is your right, but that's not on me.
 
2012-10-26 05:00:41 AM
I honestly didn't think that anyone would go to such overt racism instead of the normal dog whistling. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if some staffer accidentally drops an n-bomb before election day.

Seriously, when your campaign even sucks at racial dog whistles, something that the GOP has been perfecting for decades, you're terrible at your job.
 
2012-10-26 05:02:45 AM

log_jammin: It's cute when people think problems as vast and as ingrained into our society, like racism, will magically go away if we just don't talk about them.


OK - your solution is?
 
2012-10-26 05:06:10 AM

ShawnDoc: propasaurus: pissedoffmick: ...more unnecessary insults...

Yeah, that's enough outta you.

Did you expect anything less from a drunk Irishman?


www.barstoolu.com
 
2012-10-26 05:06:12 AM

pissedoffmick: OK - your solution is?


pretty much anything beyond "ignore it" is a step in the right direction. dare I say that "blabbing away about equality" might just be the best step in the right direction.
 
2012-10-26 05:08:28 AM

log_jammin: pissedoffmick: OK - your solution is?

pretty much anything beyond "ignore it" is a step in the right direction. dare I say that "blabbing away about equality" might just be the best step in the right direction.


ok. I am game. How do we begin to implement this?
 
2012-10-26 05:12:03 AM

pissedoffmick: ok. I am game. How do we begin to implement this?



easy. you open your mouth and express your ideas and opinions in a calm and respectful tone, and the second party does the same thing. eventually the two people talking may find they have many more similarities than differences. After seeing you call one of the women here a "coont" I'm not exactly shocked that you're unfamiliar with this process.
 
2012-10-26 05:18:35 AM

log_jammin: pissedoffmick: ok. I am game. How do we begin to implement this?


easy. you open your mouth and express your ideas and opinions in a calm and respectful tone, and the second party does the same thing. eventually the two people talking may find they have many more similarities than differences. After seeing you call one of the women here a "coont" I'm not exactly shocked that you're unfamiliar with this process.


Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.
 
2012-10-26 05:21:35 AM
Yes I read the while thread. I never said I could solve race relations. I said Ignoring it won't make it go away.
 
2012-10-26 05:22:28 AM

pissedoffmick: Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.


pissedoffmick's profile: Location: Either Florida or Cuba - it's hard to tell

You know, you're not as subtle as you think you are.
 
2012-10-26 05:22:34 AM

log_jammin: I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.


I did, too, until he popped up earlier this year as Romney's attack dog.

/It still kinda baffles me.
 
2012-10-26 05:24:19 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: pissedoffmick: Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.

pissedoffmick's profile: Location: Either Florida or Cuba - it's hard to tell

You know, you're not as subtle as you think you are.


nice
 
2012-10-26 05:25:12 AM

log_jammin: Yes I read the while thread. I never said I could solve race relations. I said Ignoring it won't make it go away.


Which is pretty much the conscise version of my Tolstoy up there.

Ah well.
 
2012-10-26 05:26:05 AM

Dwight_Yeast: log_jammin: I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.

I did, too, until he popped up earlier this year as Romney's attack dog.

/It still kinda baffles me.


I think it' because the last time I heard his name was dana carvey saying it during a sketch on SNL the week before Clinton was elected.
 
2012-10-26 05:26:25 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: pissedoffmick: Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.

pissedoffmick's profile: Location: Either Florida or Cuba - it's hard to tell

You know, you're not as subtle as you think you are.


I gave you a funny. I have never been accused of trying to be subtle.
 
2012-10-26 05:30:36 AM

log_jammin: Yes I read the while thread. I never said I could solve race relations. I said Ignoring it won't make it go away.


But you did say "pretty much anything" would be helpful. So... name some "helpful" stuff.
 
2012-10-26 05:33:31 AM

pissedoffmick: But you did say "pretty much anything" would be helpful. So... name some "helpful" stuff.


actually I think I'm going to test your theory out by ignoring you and seeing if that makes you go away.
 
2012-10-26 05:34:31 AM
well that's blindingly obvious, but it will nonetheless be interpreted as racist on the part of mr. sununu to point that out...
 
2012-10-26 05:34:48 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: pissedoffmick: Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.

pissedoffmick's profile: Location: Either Florida or Cuba - it's hard to tell

You know, you're not as subtle as you think you are.


Yeah, if the whole "account created in 2002, but never seen a single post from him before" thing wasn't a giveaway, that would have finished the job.
 
2012-10-26 05:35:01 AM

pissedoffmick: log_jammin: Yes I read the while thread. I never said I could solve race relations. I said Ignoring it won't make it go away.

But you did say "pretty much anything" would be helpful. So... name some "helpful" stuff.


Well... there's studying and reading about racial discrimination and economic disparity and bringing that knowledge into the political conversation. There's soeaking about and writing about it in order to make sure that this viewpoint isn't ignoredi n American politics.


 
 
2012-10-26 05:44:22 AM

log_jammin: pissedoffmick: But you did say "pretty much anything" would be helpful. So... name some "helpful" stuff.

actually I think I'm going to test your theory out by ignoring you and seeing if that makes you go away.


fair enough - I am obnoxious. I hope your plan to do "pretty much anything" catches on and ends racism. I can't see any flaws in that idea.
 
2012-10-26 05:46:49 AM

Last Man on Earth: Fluorescent Testicle: pissedoffmick: Yeah, you clearly didn't read the while thread. No matter. This is wonderful - you go first: solve race relations in the us by, doing all that shiat you just said. I will wait here.

pissedoffmick's profile: Location: Either Florida or Cuba - it's hard to tell

You know, you're not as subtle as you think you are.

Yeah, if the whole "account created in 2002, but never seen a single post from him before" thing wasn't a giveaway, that would have finished the job.


Dude: don't insult the account number. -FB was my father.
 
2012-10-26 05:47:05 AM
It didn't work :-(
 
2012-10-26 05:47:52 AM

skinnycatullus: And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.


Yeah, cause its totally far fetched, with 97 percent of African Americans supporting the president. its so obvioulsy RACIST of a white man to point it out. I get it.
 
2012-10-26 05:49:29 AM

log_jammin: It didn't work :-(


shiat. New plan?
 
2012-10-26 06:00:02 AM

I sound fat: skinnycatullus: And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.

Yeah, cause its totally far fetched, with 97 percent of African Americans supporting the president. its so obvioulsy RACIST of a white man to point it out. I get it.


"We know that all black people feel the same way on Obama, and all of them only think that way because he's black. There's no chance that some black people might back Obama for different reasons. Therefore, when this highly-regarded black man expresses support for Obama, we know that the only reason is because of his blackness, rather than any actual reasoning." Yes, it turns out that making a broad assumption about the beliefs and behaviors of an entire class of people, then attributing that assumption to every individual in that group is the very definition of prejudice. Prejudice toward a particular racial group is called racism. Shocking, I know, but true.
 
2012-10-26 06:01:17 AM
Oh damn that's gonna hurt. Even the liberal media might report this one.
 
2012-10-26 06:04:30 AM

Blue_Blazer: powhound: Blue_Blazer: powhound: I'm still pissed that Bush threw Powell under the bus.

/pissed

If you listen to my Fox News lovin' dad, Powell threw W under the bus by lying about the information, and then making Bush and the whole country look bad for getting us into a war of choice.

Powell is now just another casualty in the Republican War on Truth.

Which is a damn shame. But I feel for ya. My mother is in the same boat. Regarding "anybody but N0bama" anyways. I'm sure it's pretty much one and the same. They all hate the blahhhh.

I just let him enjoy what I hope is his last chance to bask in the former glory days of the Old Grandpa Party. He knows Obama is gonna win, since all the blacks will be bused in to vote for Obama.


My old grandpa helped start a union and remembers the house women used to go to for coat hanger abortions and remembers his wife joking that they "finally figured out what was causing it" when birth control became an option and they were able to stop having kids they couldn't quite afford.

I hope the country gets a little less depressing for him.
 
2012-10-26 06:06:34 AM

Last Man on Earth: I sound fat: skinnycatullus: And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.

Yeah, cause its totally far fetched, with 97 percent of African Americans supporting the president. its so obvioulsy RACIST of a white man to point it out. I get it.

"We know that all black people feel the same way on Obama, and all of them only think that way because he's black. There's no chance that some black people might back Obama for different reasons. Therefore, when this highly-regarded black man expresses support for Obama, we know that the only reason is because of his blackness, rather than any actual reasoning." Yes, it turns out that making a broad assumption about the beliefs and behaviors of an entire class of people, then attributing that assumption to every individual in that group is the very definition of prejudice. Prejudice toward a particular racial group is called racism. Shocking, I know, but true.


um... you can't say "black" anymore. You said it 5 times. You can't say black. Also the R word is now off-limits.
 
2012-10-26 06:12:46 AM
Hey look. Ignoring the problem has made it invisible.
 
2012-10-26 06:12:50 AM
I'd like to take this time to point out that the Romney campaign, which promises to lower the deficit, has hired John Sununu, a man who got drummed out of politics in the 80s after charging hundred thousand dollar ski vacations to taxpayers, as their spokesperson. The GOP has a terribly short memory, and it disappoints me greatly that no one in the "liberal" media calls them out for that.
 
2012-10-26 06:29:28 AM
Without even reading the article, I know what Sununu said.

Guess that makes ME the racist. . . .
 
2012-10-26 06:32:05 AM
John Sununu is a farking asshole. That is all you need to know about him.
 
2012-10-26 06:36:05 AM
Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.
 
2012-10-26 06:45:05 AM

shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.


Which is also why they line up to support Alan West.
 
2012-10-26 06:46:11 AM

Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.


This.
 
2012-10-26 06:50:46 AM

Bontesla: Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.

This.


The Republicans assume that since they vote against Obama because of his race, those who vote for him do so for the same reason.
 
2012-10-26 06:51:44 AM
Does anyone remember Sununu ever NOT being an asshole? Because I sure don't.
Not news.
 
2012-10-26 06:53:09 AM

jso2897: Does anyone remember Sununu ever NOT being an asshole? Because I sure don't.
Not news.


I don't feel like looking it up, but didn't Sununu get tossed out of Congress for taking vacations on the public dime, or something? You know, that thing the right's always accusing Michelle Obama of?
 
2012-10-26 06:54:51 AM

log_jammin: I think it' because the last time I heard his name was dana carvey saying it during a sketch on SNL the week before Clinton was elected.


Any time I hear his name, I'm transported back to the 1980s and Mark Russell Comedy Specials -the guy who used to show up on PBS and sing political song parodies.
 
2012-10-26 07:07:57 AM

shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.


I hear this percentage of 94%- 98% of the black vote going to Obama.
I am reminded of the old Soviet elections or communist countries in the past announcing that the Party leader had won 98% of the votes. Our teacher would just roll his eyes and continue to read the propaganda.

I also hear black commentators speak of the diversity of opinion in the black community.
This diversity seems to end at the voting booth.

The conservative pundits think Obama endorsement of Gay marriage is going to peel away support from " traditional black churches " Yeah ! Don't count on that, Sean.

I doubt that you will find a Jewish or Catholic or Hispanic or Asian candidate receiving anywhere near the 90% of the vote from their own people nation wide. 

We all have family or friends that are going to vote for "their own People" believing having one of your own close to the lever of power is more important than the issues.

Because someone points this out doesn't make them racist.
 
2012-10-26 07:09:19 AM

Dwight_Yeast: Any time I hear his name, I'm transported back to the 1980s and Mark Russell Comedy Specials -the guy who used to show up on PBS and sing political song parodies.


Oh yeah! I forgot all bout that guy!
 
2012-10-26 07:12:03 AM
A wealthy, old, conservative white guy making racist remarks and thinking he's being insightful? Why, I never...

Also, for all the cretin's in here defending Sununu, Sununu was backtracking on this bullshiat almost as soon as he said it.
 
2012-10-26 07:14:34 AM

Omahawg: There was a time in the mid-90s when I figured Colin would be our first black president. I really did.


If he'd run, he would have been, but that would have gotten in the way of PNAC's little schemes. Oh, how I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when that backroom deal was hammered out...
 
2012-10-26 07:21:47 AM
It seems like I remember a time when Sununu wasn't over-the-top derpity stupid. Did he suffer head trauma or something?
 
2012-10-26 07:26:05 AM

peasandcarrots: Omahawg: There was a time in the mid-90s when I figured Colin would be our first black president. I really did.

If he'd run, he would have been, but that would have gotten in the way of PNAC's little schemes. Oh, how I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when that backroom deal was hammered out...


Powell's got some Viet Nam-era skeletons in his closet, from what I hear. I always figured that was the reason he never ran.
 
2012-10-26 07:27:29 AM

markfara: shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.

Which is also why they line up to support Alan West.


All the people who believe blacks are voting for Obama because of blackness ignore this. Allen West has a higher unfavorable rating and gets less support from black people than his challenger Patrick Murphy.

Lola.
 
2012-10-26 07:33:04 AM
So black people are only voting for Obama because he's black, too, but white people voting for Romney are doing so based a rational decision on policies. Got it.

Do some of you idiots actually read what you type before you post it?
 
2012-10-26 07:33:25 AM
Yeah. Republicans are racists. I keep telling you guys.
 
2012-10-26 07:35:51 AM
www.free-picture-graphic.org.uk

John Sununu goes for a haircut.
 
2012-10-26 07:41:26 AM

Genevieve Marie: Generally, if I take several minutes to work on a post and I bother to add citations and reading suggestions, it's because I'm genuinely trying to have a discussion on the topic at hand.


I do this all the time and then kick myself for wasting it on the utterly dense. Like I have paying work and I am writing a thoroughly researched reply trying to change the viewpoint of Romney-bot who is -- I am not making this up -- too visually challenged to do any sustained research. He asked me to help him sort some things out. Despite much effort, they remain unsorted. Why try?

Waste.

Well, maybe not. Procrastination does have some survival value or it wouldn't persist as a human trait.
 
2012-10-26 07:42:38 AM
And, no matter what, the racist, pro-rape party will get at least 40% of the vote. Neither of these things are deal-breakers with a large chunk of the electorate.
 
2012-10-26 07:45:46 AM

President Merkin Muffley: [www.free-picture-graphic.org.uk image 280x241]

John Sununu goes for a haircut.


That plane just looks... uncircumcised.
 
2012-10-26 07:48:30 AM

propasaurus: From the comments:
He voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because its called Job Security, and the fact there was no white candidate opposing Bush. He voted for Obama in 2008, and will vote for him again this year, because both are black, and because Powell never had a shred of Republican in him to begin with. Whats wrong with telling the truth once in a while? Obama should try it.

That's right, Gore and Kerry, both black.
And I'd say going to the UN to push the Bush administration's lies about Iraq pretty well qualifies him as a Republican.


Yes, I'd prefer Powell endorse Romney - his endorsement is tainted.
 
2012-10-26 07:48:48 AM
emergency-pants.net
 
2012-10-26 08:03:14 AM
Typical lib, always playing the race card
 
2012-10-26 08:11:21 AM

keylock71: So black people are only voting for Obama because he's black, too, but white people voting for Romney are doing so based a rational decision on policies. Got it.

Do some of you idiots actually read what you type before you post it?


Cognitive dissonance for the win
 
2012-10-26 08:22:38 AM

jules_siegel: ?

Waste.

Well, maybe not. Procrastination does have some survival value or it wouldn't persist as a human trait.


Just remember when you do such things, its not necessarily a waste. This threads do not occur in a vacuum. True, the person you are engaging may or may not actually be interested, and may be stringing you along. But *other* people are reading to, and by engaging them (and, potentially, smacking them down), you do not allow their statements and beliefs to go unchallenged (and when being polite and well sourced, may even sway people to your side.)
 
2012-10-26 08:23:05 AM
the republican party: not racist, but #1 with racists.
 
2012-10-26 08:28:50 AM

Ed Grubermann: ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.

Sure. Like someone who believes in the Mark of Ham is going to get annoyed at this.


Is that when Germany's currency became worthless in the early 20's and they had to shift to a schnitzel based economy?
 
2012-10-26 08:30:13 AM

sprawl15: Is that when Germany's currency became worthless in the early 20's and they had to shift to a schnitzel based economy?


No, no, that's the Market of Spam. I think the Mark of Ham is a story about a young actor who was in a car crash, finished the movie series he was in, and then went on to become the Joker. And a fire bender bent on world domination.
 
2012-10-26 08:39:50 AM

Felgraf: sprawl15: Is that when Germany's currency became worthless in the early 20's and they had to shift to a schnitzel based economy?

No, no, that's the Market of Spam. I think the Mark of Ham is a story about a young actor who was in a car crash, finished the movie series he was in, and then went on to become the Joker. And a fire bender bent on world domination.


It seemed like Obama had this election in the bag
 
2012-10-26 08:40:05 AM
Duh!
 
2012-10-26 08:45:09 AM
Considering 95+ percent of blacks voted for Obama in 2008, it's statistically true, isn't it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/14/black-people-obama-2012-supp o rt-prejudice_n_1964609.html

Link 

Blacks overwhelmingly vote for black candidates when an election has a black candidate vs. a white one.
 
2012-10-26 08:46:17 AM

topcon: Considering 95+ percent of blacks voted for Obama in 2008, it's statistically true, isn't it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/14/black-people-obama-2012-supp o rt-prejudice_n_1964609.html

Link 

Blacks overwhelmingly vote for black candidates when an election has a black candidate vs. a white one.


Except that same trend holds for every democratic president since the Civil Rights act.
 
2012-10-26 08:47:23 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.

I hear this percentage of 94%- 98% of the black vote going to Obama.
I am reminded of the old Soviet elections or communist countries in the past announcing that the Party leader had won 98% of the votes. Our teacher would just roll his eyes and continue to read the propaganda.

I also hear black commentators speak of the diversity of opinion in the black community.
This diversity seems to end at the voting booth.

The conservative pundits think Obama endorsement of Gay marriage is going to peel away support from " traditional black churches " Yeah ! Don't count on that, Sean.

I doubt that you will find a Jewish or Catholic or Hispanic or Asian candidate receiving anywhere near the 90% of the vote from their own people nation wide. 

We all have family or friends that are going to vote for "their own People" believing having one of your own close to the lever of power is more important than the issues.

Because someone points this out doesn't make them racist.


Does the fact that black people usually vote democrat for every election at these numbers no matter the race of the politician put things into perspective for you? Gore got 90% of the black vote when he ran.
 
2012-10-26 08:47:33 AM
Did he add Powell is also so well spoken?
Why do so many of these Republican bigots look like pasty, corpulent, geriatric zombies?
 
2012-10-26 08:48:11 AM
OH that Powell!!!! I almost forgot.. The one with the evidence :))))



politics.blogs.foxnews.com
 
2012-10-26 08:50:10 AM
There are people who will vote for President Obama because he is black. SEC Powell isn't one of those people. GOV Sununu's comments are indefensible.

/Wonder if Powell will call him on an Obamaphone to tell him that.
 
2012-10-26 08:51:54 AM

jules_siegel: Genevieve Marie: Generally, if I take several minutes to work on a post and I bother to add citations and reading suggestions, it's because I'm genuinely trying to have a discussion on the topic at hand.

I do this all the time and then kick myself for wasting it on the utterly dense. Like I have paying work and I am writing a thoroughly researched reply trying to change the viewpoint of Romney-bot who is -- I am not making this up -- too visually challenged to do any sustained research. He asked me to help him sort some things out. Despite much effort, they remain unsorted. Why try?


Wow ! You and John Kerry both must suffer carrying such an intellectual burden.

I forget is it pronounced Genghis Khan or Gingiss Khan ?

 
2012-10-26 08:56:50 AM

A. Snatchfold: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.

I hear this percentage of 94%- 98% of the black vote going to Obama.
I am reminded of the old Soviet elections or communist countries in the past announcing that the Party leader had won 98% of the votes. Our teacher would just roll his eyes and continue to read the propaganda.

I also hear black commentators speak of the diversity of opinion in the black community.
This diversity seems to end at the voting booth.

The conservative pundits think Obama endorsement of Gay marriage is going to peel away support from " traditional black churches " Yeah ! Don't count on that, Sean.

I doubt that you will find a Jewish or Catholic or Hispanic or Asian candidate receiving anywhere near the 90% of the vote from their own people nation wide. 

We all have family or friends that are going to vote for "their own People" believing having one of your own close to the lever of power is more important than the issues.

Because someone points this out doesn't make them racist.

Does the fact that black people usually vote democrat for every election at these numbers no matter the race of the politician put things into perspective for you? Gore got 90% of the black vote when he ran.


Democratic primary in a black district. One candidate is white and has a good track record as a Democrat. The other candidate is black and has been arrested numerous times over the years for things like cocaine and has been investigated for questionable financial practices. Guess which one wins? Hint: This has really happened before.
 
2012-10-26 08:58:35 AM
www.rottenecards.com
 
2012-10-26 08:58:37 AM

ndubyaj: I'm guessing that tomorrow morning the Romney campaign cans his ass.


Ha!
 
2012-10-26 08:58:58 AM
It's pretty telling that all of Mitt Romney's public supporters are people who became famous 20+ years ago and are now clearly fighting the inevitable slide into obscurity. All while being completely out of touch with modern society.
 
2012-10-26 09:21:40 AM

Felgraf: Just remember when you do such things, its not necessarily a waste. This threads do not occur in a vacuum. True, the person you are engaging may or may not actually be interested, and may be stringing you along. But *other* people are reading to, and by engaging them (and, potentially, smacking them down), you do not allow their statements and beliefs to go unchallenged (and when being polite and well sourced, may even sway people to your side.)


Possibly, but the s/n ratio is daunting.
 
2012-10-26 09:32:10 AM

sleeps in trees: Oh my farking God. Can you stop it? I mean walk over the border, race and sexual orientation is a non issue. Evolve.


If it weren't there wouldn't be a 98% black support of Obama...
just sayin
 
2012-10-26 09:34:06 AM
OR...Powell could still be a little bitter about being forced to trot himself out in front of the U.N. and deliver a case filled with incorrect intelligence data to invade Iraq.
 
2012-10-26 09:38:02 AM
It could be worse. The Free Republic crowd's united reaction was that the reason he endorsed Obama was because both of them only got their jobs due to affirmative action.
 
2012-10-26 09:48:39 AM

topcon: A. Snatchfold: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.

I hear this percentage of 94%- 98% of the black vote going to Obama.
I am reminded of the old Soviet elections or communist countries in the past announcing that the Party leader had won 98% of the votes. Our teacher would just roll his eyes and continue to read the propaganda.

I also hear black commentators speak of the diversity of opinion in the black community.
This diversity seems to end at the voting booth.

The conservative pundits think Obama endorsement of Gay marriage is going to peel away support from " traditional black churches " Yeah ! Don't count on that, Sean.

I doubt that you will find a Jewish or Catholic or Hispanic or Asian candidate receiving anywhere near the 90% of the vote from their own people nation wide. 

We all have family or friends that are going to vote for "their own People" believing having one of your own close to the lever of power is more important than the issues.

Because someone points this out doesn't make them racist.

Does the fact that black people usually vote democrat for every election at these numbers no matter the race of the politician put things into perspective for you? Gore got 90% of the black vote when he ran.

Democratic primary in a black district. One candidate is white and has a good track record as a Democrat. The other candidate is black and has been arrested numerous times over the years for things like cocaine and has been investigated for questionable financial practices. Guess which one wins? Hint: This has really happened before.


Has fark all to do with a presidential election. You can't escape that your premise is flawed out of the gate.
 
2012-10-26 09:49:21 AM
Wait Colin Powell is black?
 
2012-10-26 09:54:50 AM

DeltaPunch: skinnycatullus: And I applaud Mr. Sununu for standing with fellow white man, Mitt Romney.

That's seriously in the running for most offensive thing said in this campaign.

I'm actually not so sure that this one is more offensive than his "Obama needs to learn to be an American" comment. That was equally disgusting IMHO.


I'm going with Newt's, "He must need to play basketball, watch ESPN, and take naps. He's not a real president. He doesn't do the things real presidents do."

That dog whistle is a freight train.
 
2012-10-26 09:59:25 AM

CPennypacker: Wait Colin Powell is black?


He's black now that he doesn't suit the GOP anymore.
 
2012-10-26 10:22:42 AM

Genevieve Marie: John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.


They did this crap in chicago when harold washington was running for mayor.

"If you are black and you vote for harold, you are showing pride; if you are white and you vote for Bernard Epton. you are racist."

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
2012-10-26 10:22:42 AM

Lorelle: Nah. Powell supports Obama because Romney is an asshole.


Funny, that's the same reason Sununu supports Romney - he's a fellow asshole.
 
2012-10-26 10:23:19 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Lorelle: Nah. Powell supports Obama because Romney is an asshole.

Funny, that's the same reason Sununu supports Romney - he's a fellow asshole-american .

 
2012-10-26 10:27:06 AM

poorcku: OH that Powell!!!! I almost forgot.. The one with the evidence :))))



[politics.blogs.foxnews.com image 850x592]


...that was rammed down his throat by the neocons.
 
2012-10-26 10:28:10 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Lorelle: Nah. Powell supports Obama because Romney is an asshole.

Funny, that's the same reason Sununu supports Romney - he's a fellow asshole.


I didn't even realize Sununu's involvement with Romney until recently. Talk about a blast-from-the-past-that-I'd-rather-have-forgotten.
 
2012-10-26 10:28:24 AM

Gyrfalcon: Apparently, only WHITE people vote based on rational thought. Black (and presumably brown, also yellow and red people) only vote based on skin color. Ergo, while a WHITE person might vote for a black (brown, yellow, red) person because they find their politics amenable, a person of color ONLY votes for such a person based on skin tone--although if they voted for a white person, it can only be because of the white person's superior political stance.

Why not just get out the hoods and sheets while you're at it, Sununu? Trot out the ol' bell curve while you're at it and unpack all those hoary old racist theories too. Let's get it all out there. Hell, go ahead and call General Powell a n*gger too, you're on a roll.


Don't forget, white people only vote for minorities because they're afraid of being called racist.
 
2012-10-26 10:31:55 AM
meh, might've worked in 2008. Now that dog don't hunt.
 
2012-10-26 10:37:00 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: ...that was rammed down his throat by the neocons.


Yes, it is all the neocons. The fact that the guy has no backbone had nothing to do with it.

"They told me to do it!" :)
 
2012-10-26 10:49:35 AM

log_jammin: I honestly thought John Sununu was dead.


Did you find any evidence to the contrary?
 
2012-10-26 10:52:08 AM
www.rottenecards.com

But only because they at last located an honest Republican 
 
2012-10-26 11:04:31 AM

lilbjorn: [www.rottenecards.com image 420x294]

But only because they at last located an honest Republican


This picture's so much more convincing the second time you see it in a thread.
 
2012-10-26 11:19:03 AM
I suppose it's too much to point out that Hillary initially had the majority of black support in the Primaries. Ah well race baiters are gonna bait.
 
2012-10-26 11:21:11 AM

Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.


May I use this? I would like to paste it to facebook
 
2012-10-26 11:24:20 AM

Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.


That was well stated.Favorited.
 
2012-10-26 11:47:14 AM

shotglasss: Obvious tag busy, trollmitter? Powell made it clear in 08 that Obama got his vote because of his skin. This election is no different because Powell is no different than the other 97% of blacks who will vote for Obama based on skin color.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-26 11:53:01 AM

intelligent comment below: They sure do, perspective about their lives only. What next, you're going to quote Bill Cosby? You sound concerned for the plight of the black man. Only an educated research professional can make such blanket claims about an entire group of people. That's why you don't listen to celebrities unless they are only speaking about themselves. It's the only thing they know well.


Right. That Marty King guy should have never shot off his mouth.
 
2012-10-26 12:23:01 PM
These farking guys.
 
2012-10-26 12:33:44 PM

knobmaker: intelligent comment below: They sure do, perspective about their lives only. What next, you're going to quote Bill Cosby? You sound concerned for the plight of the black man. Only an educated research professional can make such blanket claims about an entire group of people. That's why you don't listen to celebrities unless they are only speaking about themselves. It's the only thing they know well.

Right. That Marty King guy should have never shot off his mouth.


You're not one of those folks who think King only made one speech about having a dream are you?
 
2012-10-26 12:44:16 PM

TrollingForColumbine: May I use this? I would like to paste it to facebook



Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
 
2012-10-26 12:46:52 PM

pissedoffmick: I can only say that in my life, considering people solely on their merits has been and continues to be wonderful.


what kind of racist douche came up with that??
 
2012-10-26 12:48:17 PM

erik-k: intelligent comment below: But don't you dare call them racist

You're the racist for thinking this is racist, racist.

Hang on a second, I just said "racist" 3 times... what does that mean?


It means you really like racists.
 
2012-10-26 12:56:25 PM

TrollingForColumbine: Genevieve Marie: This is a really good example of what racism looks like though. There are people that would prefer not to acknowledge racism unless it involves burning crosses and KKK members, and who are happy to gloss over far more common examples of racism.
 
John Sununu seems to think that while black people vote based on race, white people do not, and the fact that he is a white man endorsing a white man isn't worth noting, but a black man endorsing a black man can't be based on logic and has to be based on racial identity. And in doing that, he completely and totally dismissed Colin Powell's very thoughtful and reasoned endorsement.

The Republican party was more than happy to point to Colin Powell as an example of a black person that they like for a long time- but the second he stepped out of line, it no longer matters that he's a retired four star general, former chairman of the joint chiefs, and a former secretary of state. He immediately becomes just another black guy, and they're happy to imply that he's a bit simple and that he's not capable of thinking things through like they are.

It's really, really gross. It also seems to be totally invisible to a lot of people.

May I use this? I would like to paste it to facebook


Never get involved in a land war in Asia, never engage in political discourse on facebook, never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
 
2012-10-26 02:05:37 PM

skullkrusher: pissedoffmick: I can only say that in my life, considering people solely on their merits has been and continues to be wonderful.

what kind of racist douche came up with that??


My mom. She was a real dick.
 
2012-10-26 04:06:56 PM
I'm in shock and awe.
 
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