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(RealClearPolitics)   Their senate candidates are losing, a big chunk of their 2010 class of representatives are on track to be drummed from office and their presidential candidate has abandoned them in his etch-a-sketch to the center: the Tea Party is dead   (realclearpolitics.com) divider line 165
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2012-10-26 06:25:10 AM

homelessdude: I think we are due for another cycle of stupidity from the right. They are not quite done yet. While this election very well may be the death of the GOP, there is still enough support of stupid see/hear/speak no evil monkey thinking from the electorate to support the perverted thoughts of the right. Of course, it does not help with the MSM spending its days massaging the numbers back and forth so keep the narrative alive and supporting the suppression of clear thought to bolster viewership and increase their revenue.

The entire system is so totally broken that while one can say the GOP is fast approaching the death rattle, at the same time there are enough back end support to keep the current stupidity alive for another few years. Should there be an actual grand shift away from the GOP in 11 days, I am sure there will be a visible push coming from all corners to keep the political conflict alive until 2014 midterms. Between now and then, new strategies will be devised to keep the GOP alive enough to continue the myopic political view that most of the country holds.

The vast majority of the American electorate (whatever the leaning is) are sheeples. Most are too caught up with their own self-created personal moral agendas to give up their obsession with hatred in some form or another. Like an alcoholic who goes on the wagon, if there is a decided shift away from the GOP with this election, one can certainly expect there to be a relapse. Or more likely, there may be the beginning of a shift, at the same time the conservative element of this country will be sneaking nips from the GOP bottle hidden in the closet for a long time.

Just because Obama may win does not mean this crap is over. Far from it. It is just going to morph into another blob of puss for a while at least.


of course its not over, the global economy is still struggling, tax cuts could expire, more wars could break out in the middle east, we might be forced to leave afghanistan in "less than optimal" conditions - all of these things are real possibilities in the next 4 years and its the job of the democrats or republicans to pin anything and everything on whoever from the other party wins the presidential race
 
2012-10-26 06:30:57 AM
There never was anything of substance there.
 
2012-10-26 06:32:09 AM

Happy Hours: Nope - Rubio is not a natural born citizen according to Tea Partiers. Yes, he was born in Miami but his parents weren't citizens at the time of his birth. In Tea Party land, this means he's not a natural born citizen.


10 years ago a lot of those same people would have supported a Constitutional Amendment to allow
Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for President.
 
2012-10-26 06:39:42 AM

erik-k: Overfiend: Don't count your chickens before they hatch subby...

Republicans will do very well this election. Romney is going to win.

Fark Moderates will be a group of very sad and/or angry individuals.

C'mon, this is how you're supposed to terrify us with the statisticals:

1. 30% of Hillary voters for Romney
2. 1 in 7 undecided
3. Silent majority

You guys are gonna be soooo pissed off...


You left out the ever important Japanic Mormon voting block. If they go for Romney, President Obama better watch out!
 
2012-10-26 06:41:54 AM

roadkillontheweb: They are not going without a fight.
They sent me a mailer with a DVD in it yesterday. The daughter had it loaded in the player and pushed play when I walked in from work. Then she laughed her ass off.
I live in a swing state so I am avoiding TV right now and when I do watch it is recorded so I can skip the commercials.

Not sure how I got on thier mailing list? Will the KKK magazine show up next?


Is that the one where Obama's a bastard and his mom was a fat whore? I got that one, too. Stay classy, Republicans!
 
2012-10-26 06:42:23 AM

weltallica: Almost as dead as the Occupy movement.


There are no degrees of "dead". The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.
Time to move on from zombie politics.
 
2012-10-26 06:49:07 AM

dameron: 538's nowcast is at almost 76% and there's no scheduled events on the calendar like debates, conventions etc. that might change things up. So barring some unforeseen event Obama looks good for reelection. I think the Republicans have to nominate Rubio in 2016 but they'll be going against Clinton and I expect her to be nigh unstoppable as this is close to her last change.


...if ever there was a year for a third party candidate, 2016 is that year.
 
2012-10-26 06:59:10 AM
Koch-suckers.
 
2012-10-26 07:12:33 AM

IlGreven: ...if ever there was a year for a third party candidate, 2016 is that year.


You have a very good point there. The problem will be to get the electorate to break out of their respective bubbles to take the chance. I am not sure people in this country are that adventurous. If the economy gets better and people can spend more money at WalMart fighting for cheap toasters on Black Friday, any thoughts of an improving our political choices will go poof like like a patootie fart.. 

This people of the US have their ideals, but cheap toasters generally win out when push comes to shove. Or maybe pushing and shoving leads to good deals on toasters. Whatever.
 
2012-10-26 07:12:36 AM

WorldCitizen: dameron: That's the makings of a regional party. The Republicans need something to appeal to urban dwellers and they don't have it yet.

And you know what happened the last time the South thought they were no longer going to be able to get their way in Washington...


They enacted a whole lot of bigoted laws, oh wait they have already done that. Time for another federal law to overturn them.
 
2012-10-26 07:17:20 AM

jso2897: weltallica: Almost as dead as the Occupy movement.

There are no degrees of "dead". The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.
Time to move on from zombie politics.


I couldn't disagree more. I think zombie politics are exactly what we need. Just imagine if every voter out there was in search of BRAAAAIIIIIIIIINNS. We might elect some worthwhile representatives.
 
2012-10-26 07:25:30 AM
They are nowhere near dead. They will just get louder as they get more desperate? Pro rape? Try a concerted effort to bring back Jim Crow laws. The fanatics will start bombing public schools. This is far from over
 
2012-10-26 07:26:42 AM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to invest heavily in cardboard, Sharpie and Chinese-made Gadsden flag future.
 
2012-10-26 07:30:44 AM
Obviously they weren't conservative* enough.

*using the somewhat modern version of the term.
 
2012-10-26 07:34:44 AM

WorldCitizen: dameron: That's the makings of a regional party. The Republicans need something to appeal to urban dwellers and they don't have it yet.

And you know what happened the last time the South thought they were no longer going to be able to get their way in Washington...


They got their asses handed to them in a war, all of their politicians were forbade from holding office, and their economy was thrown into the shiatter for decades after.
 
2012-10-26 07:42:41 AM
Teabaggers are embarrassed Bush voters. Just like none of them will admit to supporting Bush now, in a few years nobody will ever admit to having been a teabagger.
 
2012-10-26 07:49:48 AM
The Republicans won big in state races in 2010 which meant they got to control the redistricting. The GOP will be a force until 2020 when there is another census and another redistricting. They have plenty of time to retool their message. It'll be interesting to see if they are able successfully court the Hispanic vote. The population is pretty conservative but the "Jan Bewer" faction of the party pushes the Hispanics to the Democrats. Arizona and Texas will be as blue as California and New England one day if the GOP continues to push their agenda of hate. If it doesn't happen after the 2020 redistricting it will be after 2030.

Other thing with the 2010 redistricting; it is done to protect Republican seats. Any Dem gains in the House or in State races will be stinging loses to the GOP.
 
2012-10-26 07:53:27 AM

Muta: They have plenty of time to retool their message.


Snicker.
 
2012-10-26 07:55:23 AM
Drummed out of office. I love that expression.
Like there a line of Continental troops with drums, signaling the buffoons' departure.
 
2012-10-26 07:57:35 AM
The Tea Party has served their purpose.
The Democrat party of today is the Republican party of 1996.
 
2012-10-26 07:58:47 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Looks like I picked the wrong week to invest heavily in cardboard, Sharpie and Chinese-made Gadsden flag future.


Pardon the threadjack, but the Gadseden flag thing is one of the things that pisses me off the most about the tea party. It used to be a nice "real" patriotic piece of Americana. Then those asshats adopted it. I wish I could put the Don't Tread on Me Navy jack sticker on the back of my car, but I don't want the association with the TP fools. On the bright side, I know what I'm dealing with when I see it flying in someone's yard or on the back of their truck.

/someone else used yellow symbols to easily ID groups of people.
//I feel dirty but, giggly for that.
 
2012-10-26 08:02:11 AM
...and good riddance.
 
2012-10-26 08:03:05 AM

dameron: South 39 61 R+22


You gotta love how America's poorest region carries water for the very people who will piss on them when elected. It just baffles me. The GOP has managed to isolate fear and jingoism from common sense, and it's working.
 
2012-10-26 08:03:57 AM
Well, the Tea Party has been clinically brain dead since its inception, at any rate...
 
2012-10-26 08:04:24 AM
I'll believe that the Teabagger movement is finally gone when I can piss on the smouldering skeleton of Steve King after the "necklace party" he so richly deserves.
 
2012-10-26 08:05:07 AM

Muta: The Republicans won big in state races in 2010 which meant they got to control the redistricting. The GOP will be a force until 2020 when there is another census and another redistricting. They have plenty of time to retool their message. It'll be interesting to see if they are able successfully court the Hispanic vote. The population is pretty conservative but the "Jan Bewer" faction of the party pushes the Hispanics to the Democrats. Arizona and Texas will be as blue as California and New England one day if the GOP continues to push their agenda of hate. If it doesn't happen after the 2020 redistricting it will be after 2030.

Other thing with the 2010 redistricting; it is done to protect Republican seats. Any Dem gains in the House or in State races will be stinging loses to the GOP.


We have Boehner now. Gerrymandered stupid redistricting. We did have Steve Austria (R) and I would vote for him with no problems as he's a good guy, lives in my county, and has done some good work. Won't vote for Boehner, though. No chance he'll lose the race, so that stings a little, too.
 
2012-10-26 08:06:07 AM

dickfreckle: dameron: South 39 61 R+22

You gotta love how America's poorest region carries water for the very people who will piss on them when elected. It just baffles me. The GOP has managed to isolate fear and jingoism from common sense, and it's working.


It is the same reason 50 Shades of Grey is popular down there. They want to be dominated by a strong, rich, white man.
 
2012-10-26 08:08:50 AM

jso2897: The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.


At least the Tea Party enjoyed non-stop national media coverage and promotion, and not just from Fox. Meanwhile, OWS received nothing but mockery while the overall sentiment was ignored. This is your liberal media at work, folks.
 
2012-10-26 08:09:14 AM
As long as Americans for Prosperity exists, they're not gone... they're just awaiting new orders.
 
2012-10-26 08:10:35 AM
i159.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-26 08:12:37 AM

geek_mars: jso2897: weltallica: Almost as dead as the Occupy movement.

There are no degrees of "dead". The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.
Time to move on from zombie politics.

I couldn't disagree more. I think zombie politics are exactly what we need. Just imagine if every voter out there was in search of BRAAAAIIIIIIIIINNS. We might elect some worthwhile representatives.


So, you're saying it's time for us to crack open each others skulls, and feast on the goo within?
 
2012-10-26 08:13:51 AM

dickfreckle: jso2897: The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.

At least the Tea Party enjoyed non-stop national media coverage and promotion, and not just from Fox. Meanwhile, OWS received nothing but mockery while the overall sentiment was ignored. This is your liberal media at work, folks.


Dogs bark - but the caravan moves on.
 
2012-10-26 08:16:06 AM

WorldCitizen: dameron: That's the makings of a regional party. The Republicans need something to appeal to urban dwellers and they don't have it yet.

And you know what happened the last time the South thought they were no longer going to be able to get their way in Washington...


This time, I say let 'em go.

CA, OR, WA, Canada and the New England states can form the 'Progressive States of North America.' The rest can form the 'Confederated States of Douchebagistan.'


\Colorado and New Mexico can pledge, but they'll be on a two-year probation
\\And we'll be keeping our eyes on you, NH...
 
2012-10-26 08:17:46 AM

dameron: So barring some unforeseen event Obama looks good for reelection.


Like an enormous storm that prevents people from going to the polls?
 
2012-10-26 08:20:42 AM

jso2897: weltallica: Almost as dead as the Occupy movement.

There are no degrees of "dead". The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.
Time to move on from zombie politics.


As someone who was just as much annoyed by OWS as I am by the Tea Party, I agree with your analysis.
 
2012-10-26 08:21:03 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: dameron: So barring some unforeseen event Obama looks good for reelection.

Like an enormous storm that prevents people from going to the polls?


heh....I was thinking the same thing. but it is a week too early to have a real immediate effect. Although it could dampen enthusiasm in the northeast (no pun intended)
 
2012-10-26 08:22:11 AM
Let's wait until the votes are counted until we gleefully throw dirt on the shallow grave.
 
2012-10-26 08:25:34 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-26 08:26:49 AM

homelessdude: Rev. Skarekroe: dameron: So barring some unforeseen event Obama looks good for reelection.

Like an enormous storm that prevents people from going to the polls?

heh....I was thinking the same thing. but it is a week too early to have a real immediate effect. Although it could dampen enthusiasm in the northeast (no pun intended)


Don't underestimate HAARP.
 
2012-10-26 08:28:07 AM

bizzwire: CA, OR, WA, Canada and the New England states can form the 'Progressive States of North America.' The rest can form the 'Confederated States of Douchebagistan.'


I think the Great Lakes Region would like to join you Progressive States of NA nation too.
 
2012-10-26 08:28:08 AM

homelessdude: Rev. Skarekroe: dameron: So barring some unforeseen event Obama looks good for reelection.

Like an enormous storm that prevents people from going to the polls?

heh....I was thinking the same thing. but it is a week too early to have a real immediate effect. Although it could dampen enthusiasm in the northeast (no pun intended)


It's undeniable that Romney is making some inexplicable gains in the polls, particularly with women.

Believe me, I'll be casting my vote come Election Day no matter what, but the election is a toss-up. I believe the smarmy SOB has also made substantial gains in the Electoral College.
 
2012-10-26 08:29:32 AM
It's been fun to watch the people that only a year ago were spouting tea party idiocy and conspiracy theories fall right in line with their milquetoast moderate Mormon as if they never biatched about the RINO wing.

Guess the only thing that hasn't changed is that there's a black guy in the White House. They were racists the whole time. Go figure.
 
2012-10-26 08:30:58 AM

Zerochance: It's undeniable that Romney is making some inexplicable gains in the polls, particularly with women.


The Mourdock rape talk will stop that trend.
 
2012-10-26 08:37:58 AM

Muta: Zerochance: It's undeniable that Romney is making some inexplicable gains in the polls, particularly with women.

The Mourdock rape talk will stop that trend.


Doubt it. I think it may have a very slight effect, but is it going to seriously hurt Romney? No. I think a lot of Republican female voters can justify the weapons-grade douchiness of Mourdock's statements by making this entirely about abortion while ignoring the intrinsic misogyny of saying that God intends for women to get raped.
 
2012-10-26 08:40:30 AM

Zerochance: Muta: Zerochance: It's undeniable that Romney is making some inexplicable gains in the polls, particularly with women.

The Mourdock rape talk will stop that trend.

Doubt it. I think it may have a very slight effect, but is it going to seriously hurt Romney? No. I think a lot of Republican female voters can justify the weapons-grade douchiness of Mourdock's statements by making this entirely about abortion while ignoring the intrinsic misogyny of saying that God intends for women to get raped.


Republican women are a smaller voting bloc than women in the middle. That's what the Republican slobs have to be careful about. A Republican woman will hold her nose and vote for some vagina-controlling throwback, but a female voter who is on the fence could be swayed by this kind of stuff.
 
2012-10-26 08:41:09 AM
Seriously, Americans need to really try hard to introduce MORE POLITICAL PARTIES.

Say what you want about the state of Canadian politics, but at least there's a little more CHOICE. At least you have Right-Wing, Right-of-Center wing, and left-wing. Americans just have right-wing and less right-wing.

/the Liberal party (right of center) was practically destroyed up here, and they're forced to try to become relevant again by appeasing the people. 
//which is what you need to do with the Republicans, but only after there is a viable 3rd party.
 
2012-10-26 08:45:39 AM

jso2897: weltallica: Almost as dead as the Occupy movement.

There are no degrees of "dead". The Teaparty was an attempt to revive the corpse of late 50's, early sxties John Bircher right wing fanaticism.
It failed.
OWS was an attempt to revive the corpse of late-sixties leftist activism. It has also failed.
Time to move on from zombie politics.


Yeah, OWS is dead, 'cause you never hear anybody talk about the 99% or the top 2% any more. Oh, wait.

Look at the polling numbers for raising taxed on the rich. OWS didn't fail, it won, the idead are now a huge presence in political discourse.
 
2012-10-26 08:45:48 AM

jakomo002: Seriously, Americans need to really try hard to introduce MORE POLITICAL PARTIES.

Say what you want about the state of Canadian politics, but at least there's a little more CHOICE. At least you have Right-Wing, Right-of-Center wing, and left-wing. Americans just have right-wing and less right-wing.

/the Liberal party (right of center) was practically destroyed up here, and they're forced to try to become relevant again by appeasing the people. 
//which is what you need to do with the Republicans, but only after there is a viable 3rd party.


I don't think you understand. There's no shortage of political parties in the United States, but the system of voting is designed so that only two parties are relevant. There are changes to the electoral and political system that could be made to make 3rd parties viable, but the people in power from the two major parties have no interest in making those changes.

In this election I'm voting for Obama. Not because I think Obama is the ideal candidate, but because a) the third party candidates are usually a little fringy (the mainstream candidates having joined one big-tent party or the other); and b) if I were to vote for a long-shot candidate that more closely matches my views, it only increases the likelihood that Mitt Romney will win (and I really don't want that).
 
2012-10-26 08:46:52 AM
Considering the Republican Party is catering heavily to their dying, bigoted base, excuse my lack of belief that they can reach out to other voters without showing their classic contempt and bigotry. They've already alienated the young white base with their constant assholery, what makes you think these idiots can pander to anybody who isn't lily white and born into a rich family?

The Republicans wrote a check their ass can't cash, and now they think they can win back hearts. They can keep believing in that myth if it stops them from going even further into Al Qaeda-land.
 
2012-10-26 08:49:32 AM

jakomo002: Seriously, Americans need to really try hard to introduce MORE POLITICAL PARTIES.


We introduce political parties all the time. The trick is getting them on the ballot and making the press pay attention to them.
 
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