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(BusinessWeek)   Microsoft's Surface tablet will fail because it lacks important apps ... like iTunes   (businessweek.com) divider line 15
    More: Fail, Microsoft Surface, Microsoft, iPads, killer app, open standard, music store, social networking service, iTunes  
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3780 clicks; posted to Geek » on 25 Oct 2012 at 3:16 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-10-25 05:48:37 PM  
2 votes:
It is doomed to fail. The thing has a USB and SD port. People want USB and SD. Apple has proven you can't succeed by giving consumers what they want. You have to force them to make do with what you are offering. See? Doom.
2012-10-25 03:51:38 PM  
2 votes:

t3knomanser: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: The iPad, no matter what anyone says, is a giant iPod Touch.

Just as a point: I've written software on the iPad. Not for the iPad. On it. It's certainly not my preferred environment, but it's entirely workable, especially with an external keyboard. Koder is actually one of the better programmer's text editors that I've used on any platform.

On a related note, Visual Studio is absolutely terrible on the Surface. It's all about optimizing for the screen realestate, and VS2012 is an absolute hog. I'm usually running three monitors at the office, and I absolutely refuse to do programming on just the dinky laptop screen.

Also, I've been very disappointed in Win8's touchscreen features. It's really wonky to use, and really- that tile-based app launcher is awful. I'm still not sure how I'm supposed to add widgets to it, not that I've spent much time thinking about it.


So what you you really should have said is while you can code on both, you prefer to code on traditional equipment. Because the IPAD would also qualify as a dinky laptop screen.

And there is a difference between a text editor and a full blown IDE, which you have access to in need of an emergency fix.

Plus with HDMI out on the Surface you have HDMI out so you could literally plug a monitor in. And of course you can always use an external keyboard.

So advantage Surface.
2012-10-25 03:28:25 PM  
2 votes:
Which of these do I need to unblock to show this page?

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I think I'll just close the tab.
2012-10-25 03:20:24 PM  
2 votes:
Doesn't come with iTunes currently, big deal isnt that what Windows Media player is for?

I am sure a Facebook app will come at some point, but isnt that what a web browser is for?

Honestly, I do not see the "need" for individual, compartmentalized apps. I much prefer to go through a web browser.

Also, Apple boasting that they have got 275,000 apps? How many are you really going to use? How many of those are in English? How many are actually useful to the average end user?

Finally, I think attempting to compare the Surface to the iPad is not 100% apples to apples. Based off what I have seen, I suspect that the Surface will have a lot more day to day business use than an iPad, largely due to the cover's touch pad and keyboard.
2012-10-25 07:59:08 PM  
1 votes:

Brontes: if you don't like Windows 8, to bad, no Linux for you.


And nothing of value was lost.
2012-10-25 06:41:50 PM  
1 votes:
Started testing Win 8 on an old Dell XT when it went beta. I was a little unsure with its performance.

Last week I installed Win 8 pro 64-bit on my main workstation (a core i7 convertible tablet). Like others, once I got over the "zomg, there's no start button" stage, I'm really beginning to like it. It's light years faster, and the OS finally has a built in spell checker. Minor, I know, but it's nice. Along with a myriad of other little tweaks that improve the speed of operation and customization (pulling a 'metro' app to the side of the main desktop, then splitting two documents equally is nice). That said, I'll probably wait a little before trying to roll it out to the rest of the office.

/my 64gig Surface RT should arrive in the mail tomorrow.
2012-10-25 06:40:31 PM  
1 votes:

F42: Microsoft's vaporware tablet will fail because you cannot hold vapor in your hands.


you realize there are already physical units in select peoples hands, right?
2012-10-25 05:37:22 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: My laptop was dying so I rushed to buy one with Windows 7 before 8 came out. I did not want to be stuck with that seeming nightmare....


LOL. Oh man...
Do you know how easy it is to pirate whatever version of whatever OS you want? Just buy whatever hardware you like and pair it with whatever software you like. If your new laptop comes with Windows 8, give it a try. You might just like it.

Or, get a huge stick up your ass over an OS you haven't used yet and let that motivate your purchasing decisions. Because taking an afternoon to educate yourself on how to install an OS is HARD!

/Who am I to complain? Willful ignorance like yours puts money in my pocket every payday.
2012-10-25 04:56:26 PM  
1 votes:

BullBearMS: It also lacks important apps like a decent e-mail client.


You mean other than Outlook?
2012-10-25 04:55:46 PM  
1 votes:

PsyLord: Doesn't come with iTunes is actually a selling feature for me, subby.

/hates that iTunes shiat


Ditto.

Can't wait to get WP8 and Surface Pro. Then bye-bye Apple bloatware.
2012-10-25 04:12:43 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: My laptop was dying so I rushed to buy one with Windows 7 before 8 came out. I did not want to be stuck with that seeming nightmare....


Same here... got an HP Envy, and love it so far.

Oh, and I don't have iTunes, I use a back version of Winamp for music files.

I'm a happy man.
2012-10-25 04:09:52 PM  
1 votes:

Brontes: And the Atom Z2760 is a total turd of a chip that is locked down to other OSes, so if you don't like Windows 8, to bad, no Linux for you. The Z2760 was designed for only one thing, to run Windows 8. Welcome to Microsoft's walled garden.


Aside from the fact that it actually uses a Tegra 3, how is that any different than almost every Android phone and tablet on the market that has a locked Bootloader?
2012-10-25 04:02:49 PM  
1 votes:

gingerjet: theflatline: And there is a difference between a text editor and a full blown IDE, which you have access to in need of an emergency fix.

Plus with HDMI out on the Surface you have HDMI out so you could literally plug a monitor in. And of course you can always use an external keyboard.

So advantage Surface.

How is it "advantage Surface" when you can do all those things with the iPad?


Not out of the box, you can't.
2012-10-25 03:50:26 PM  
1 votes:
Doesn't come with iTunes is actually a selling feature for me, subby.

/hates that iTunes shiat
2012-10-25 03:48:11 PM  
1 votes:
My boss is betting that within a year we will all be using Surface devices and will slowly be phasing out our desktops and laptops.

As the IT Manager for the place I'm stocking up on Pepto and bourbon.
 
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