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(Think Progress)   Fox News: We don't report Richard Mourdock's claim that rape pregnancy is a gift from God so you won't decide not to vote for him   (thinkprogress.org ) divider line
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2012-10-25 11:11:40 AM  
3 votes:

Makh: I'm with Colbert on this one. "This is also offensive to God. It makes him look like shiatty gift giver." (Pretty close approximation.)


Soooo...abortion is like regifting back to God?
2012-10-25 01:16:30 PM  
2 votes:
For a party so fired-up against Sharia law they do seemed to be pushing hard to adopt most of their principles into law.
2012-10-25 12:22:53 PM  
2 votes:

bwilson27: WHO GIVES A FARK WHAT FAUX NEWS SAYS OR DOES!?


Hundreds of thousands of people who use it as their only source of news then go vote.

The rest of us, who have to live with the decisions made by politicians elected by those people.
2012-10-25 12:05:28 PM  
2 votes:
Anyone who thinks Fox News is actually news isn't going to vote for Obama anyways.
2012-10-25 12:02:25 PM  
2 votes:

Mercutio74: padraig: Not really, if you think that God gave their creature free will. Men are supposed to knowingly chose between right and wrong. Giving men free will means accepting that evil can exist on this Earth. Otherwise, we're just a bunch of puppet.

But who created evil in the first place? If everything stems from God, then he's responsible for creating evil. If he didn't like evil, he could have simply made us without the mental capacity to do evil acts.


This is called the Problem of Evil, a well-discussed question in philosophy. The idea is that God cannot be, by simple observation, all omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent.

The gist of it goes like this:

Evil exists. Therefore:

She can stop evil, wants to stop evil, but can't see all evil (not omnisciencient)
She can see all evil, wants to stop evil, but doesn't have the power to stop all evil. (not omnipotent)
She can both see and stop whatever evil she wants, but chooses not to. (not benevolent)

The supposed loophole from the theologians perspective is that suffering isn't actually evil, but part of "god's plan". But it doesn't hold up under scrutiny. For example, if 6m jews dying during WWII were evil, but can be exused because it was gods plan to teach humanity a lesson (say, about tolerance and genocide), then wouldn't 5.9 million have done the trick? 5.8?

If so, does this mean that god doesn't exist, is a dick, or just doesn't give a shiat? Those appear to be the remaining choices.
2012-10-25 11:56:32 AM  
2 votes:

the_geek: The topic isn't relevant. In spite of a bunch of stupid rhetoric nothing is happening to abortion. It's legal and that isn't changing. MSM just likes to get the morons whipped up into a frenzy and yes I mean the morons on both sides of the issue. Anything for money.


Major members of one of the two dominant political parties in one of the most powerful countries on earth have made this part of not only their political party platform, but daily views and methods of governance, as evidenced by at least 2 other quotes of your post in this thread.

It is pretty damn relevant.
2012-10-25 11:42:26 AM  
2 votes:

the_geek: The topic isn't relevant. In spite of a bunch of stupid rhetoric nothing is happening to abortion. It's legal and that isn't changing. MSM just likes to get the morons whipped up into a frenzy and yes I mean the morons on both sides of the issue. Anything for money.


Have you seen the scores of anti-abortion and anti-contraceptive legislation proposed in the last several years? This is precisely the result of Tea Party power, now with more obstructionist goodness.

This was supposed to be the GOP distraction issue to get all the low-information, religious, fly-over states votes. It was the political function of the abortion debate to pander to voters. The GOP never intended that a constitutional right would be continually under fire, beaten down and weathered away. It bit them in the ass, will lose them seats in Congress and they still don't even know how to distance themselves from it, because they won't grow a backbone and disavow this bullshiat.

This is a huge issue if you have a uterus, have a child with a uterus, have a wife with a uterus. It's an economic issue for families and the country alike and it's a matter of civil rights as well.

I'd call the danger of losing your right to have sex without fear of conception pretty farking relevant.
2012-10-25 11:40:24 AM  
2 votes:

the_geek: Elandriel: What I want in a commander-in-chief is someone who ignores relevant current topics and viewpoints espoused by leaders of their party.

Kind of funny that only one party seems to be constantly stumblefarking their way into these situations where they say something horrifying and reprehensible. Must be the liberal MSM at work.

The topic isn't relevant. In spite of a bunch of stupid rhetoric nothing is happening to abortion. It's legal and that isn't changing. MSM just likes to get the morons whipped up into a frenzy and yes I mean the morons on both sides of the issue. Anything for money.


Yeah, everyone is just dreaming up the fact that the fact that legislation restricting abortion is being passed (not just proposed but passed) at a record rate and that every other week we get a new candid opinion about rape by the same political party.

Oh, wait.
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2012-10-25 11:20:07 AM  
2 votes:
WHO GIVES A FARK WHAT FAUX NEWS SAYS OR DOES!?
2012-10-25 01:43:46 PM  
1 vote:

bwilson27: WHO GIVES A FARK WHAT FAUX NEWS SAYS OR DOES!?


I, for one, believe it's important to be kept aware of what a substantial portion of our fellow citizens of voting age consider to be a reliable source of news is telling them.

Or as my Dad always sayd, "I always like to know what the enemy is up to". Except he's saying that from the other side of the fence.
2012-10-25 12:40:35 PM  
1 vote:

born_yesterday: Or this God could just, you know, make us understand without all the killing and the dying.


And just to build off of this (and to pre-empt the inevitable "But God wouldn't make people think anything...free WIIIILLLL!!!!"), read Exodus some time. You know why the Pharaoh refused to let Moses' people go? Because God made him. God wanted to break out with the 10 plagues to show everyone how powerful he was, and couldn't take the chance that Moses might actually talk the Pharaoh into letting the Jews go, so God "hardened the Pharaoh's heart" and then used that as an excuse for each of the plagues.

Moses: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of blood*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of frogs*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of lice*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of flies*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of pestilence*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of boils*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of hail*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of locusts*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of darkness*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh puppet with God's hand up his ass: No!
*plague of killing teh babbys*

Moses
: Let my people go!
Pharaoh: Please, for the love of all that's holy, you and your people GTFO! *curls up in fetal position, sobbing*
2012-10-25 12:25:23 PM  
1 vote:

THX 1138: unyon: The supposed loophole from the theologians perspective is that suffering isn't actually evil, but part of "god's plan". But it doesn't hold up under scrutiny. For example, if 6m jews dying during WWII were evil, but can be exused because it was gods plan to teach humanity a lesson (say, about tolerance and genocide), then wouldn't 5.9 million have done the trick? 5.8?

In that case, one would have to assume that humanity gaining an understanding of reproductive processes and therefore our contraception / abortion knowledge and abilities must be part of God's Plantm for us too.


Or this God could just, you know, make us understand without all the killing and the dying.

I mean, I really don't want to have to go to heaven and kiss this guy's ass for how great a plan he's got. It's actually pretty shiatty, and any mid-level manager could have done better.
2012-10-25 12:23:05 PM  
1 vote:
Republicans desperately need this Senate seat. Fox will do anything they can to make sure a republican wins. Even though the Democrat running is also very prolife and pretty conservitive, people will vote for Mourdock just because there is an R by his name. Im doing my best to spread the word that Mourdocks scum, but I live n a very red area of Indiana (southern).
2012-10-25 12:10:05 PM  
1 vote:

Citrate1007: Anyone who thinks Fox News is actually news isn't going to vote for Obama anyways.


I get so disappointed in people when I find out that they earnestly watch FOX. That tells you a lot about a person, and none of it good.
2012-10-25 12:05:02 PM  
1 vote:
In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable-what then?

-- Nineteen Eighty Four, by George Orwell.
2012-10-25 11:58:17 AM  
1 vote:
The thing is, it is a key element of the GOP platform that even they no is so repulsive that the vast majority despises them about it.......yet they keep farking the dog and won't remove it as one of their primary legislative goals.

When you are so vile that you can't admit it to yourself....you must be a conservative Republican.
2012-10-25 11:26:25 AM  
1 vote:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

If God is willing to give a gift, but not able to get a gift receipt? Then he is not a smart shopper.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is a douchebag.
If he is both able and willing? Then where is my farking gift receipt?
Is he neither able nor willing? They why let god do any of the birthday shopping?
2012-10-25 11:24:38 AM  
1 vote:

bwilson27: WHO GIVES A FARK WHAT FAUX NEWS SAYS OR DOES!?


An appallingly large number of people. Given a choice between getting all my political coverage from Fox news or Adventure Time... Actually, I think that would be awesome, nevermind.
2012-10-25 10:33:10 AM  
1 vote:
What I want in a commander-in-chief is someone who ignores relevant current topics and viewpoints espoused by leaders of their party.

Kind of funny that only one party seems to be constantly stumblefarking their way into these situations where they say something horrifying and reprehensible. Must be the liberal MSM at work.
2012-10-25 10:14:31 AM  
1 vote:

At breakfast stop, me, @sppeoples and @llerer asked Romney repeatedly about Mourdock. He did not respond.

- Sam Youngman (@samyoungman) October 25, 2012


Brave sir Romney.
2012-10-25 10:09:43 AM  
1 vote:
Fox News protects a Republican? That's unpossible!
 
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