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(The Raw Story)   Well it looks like the number of voter registration fraud cases Virginia will not be prosecuting is up to three   (rawstory.com) divider line 63
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2012-10-25 09:51:05 AM
When questions arose about Strategic's practices, including allegations of "submitting forged forms and of dumping Democratic registrations," the RNC fired the company, at which point Small and his team were re-hired by the Republican Party of Virginia.

Even better than not prosecuting. They awarded them with jobs.
 
2012-10-25 09:53:36 AM
hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
 
2012-10-25 10:35:45 AM
Ken Cucinelli sucks.

That is all.

Wait, which team is he on?
 
2012-10-25 10:38:46 AM
But...but...but...ACORN!!

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!


Voter registration fraud. Voter fraud (the last case of which was by a Republican IIRC) is different. But this is the EXACT thing that the GOP jumped all over ACORN for when they discovered...*gasp*...eleven entire instances of voter registration fraud.
 
2012-10-25 11:08:54 AM
A day or two ago someone posted a comprehensive list of similar things that has happened this election cycle. Does anyone remember which thread it was in?
 
2012-10-25 11:14:59 AM
If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire. He'd probably still be a smarmy douche, but obviously these jackasses are going out of their way to stack the deck against (D). Someone should clip their wings.
 
2012-10-25 11:40:27 AM
I owe the Republicans an apology. I thought voter fraud wasn't a major problem, but I was obviously wrong. Sorry guys!
 
2012-10-25 11:47:35 AM
look, just because something happened three times in a row, over a short period of time and is clearly evidence of a problem does NOT mean that there's a problem! there's SOCALISMS going on. SOCIALISMS! and Obama! when you put your hand...into a bunch of goo....that a moment before was your best friends face...well then, you'll know what to do.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-10-25 01:46:43 PM
This is genuinely disgusting.
 
2012-10-25 01:49:35 PM
This is my shocked face that Republicans would be committing wholesale voter registration fraud in a "close" election cycle after four whole years of a stringent "anti-voter fraud" movement.
 
2012-10-25 01:50:16 PM

Elandriel: If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire. He'd probably still be a smarmy douche, but obviously these jackasses are going out of their way to stack the deck against (D). Someone should clip their wings.


No, the right would just point out something that is not related to his argument at all. Just like when Michael Moore says something the first Reponse is related to his weight
 
2012-10-25 01:50:27 PM
Good loving lord.
 
2012-10-25 01:50:28 PM
Republicans...

How do you live with yourselves? The Republican Party is run by pieces-of-shiat like this guy. And you put up with it for what?

Republicans should all be sterilized. It's a farking *disease*.
 
2012-10-25 01:50:36 PM
Yup, "Voter ID" can only address ONE TYPE of election fraud: An individual voter casting one or more ballots *in-person* than should be allowed.

It can't address ballot stuffing, registration fraud, vote dumping, counting fraud, or voter interference (too few booths in certain areas, or inaccessible locations or inconvenient hours, or confusingly designed ballots) or voter intimidation.

But guess which one is a Republican crusade?
 
2012-10-25 01:51:03 PM

Elandriel: If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire. He'd probably still be a smarmy douche, but obviously these jackasses are going out of their way to stack the deck against (D). Someone should clip their wings.


If the left had a James O'Keefe he would be constantly denounced as an unamerican liar ruining the electoral process of America by attempting to destroy the GOP because Obama is an awful president.

This bizarrO'Keefe would've already been denounced and imprisoned.
 
2012-10-25 01:53:44 PM

Weaver95: look, just because something happened three times in a row, over a short period of time and is clearly evidence of a problem does NOT mean that there's a problem! there's SOCALISMS going on. SOCIALISMS! and Obama! when you put your hand...into a bunch of goo....that a moment before was your best friends face...well then, you'll know what to do.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


Republicans are just socializing the benefits while privatizing the risk. Isn't that what the Dims what to do with the country? The lieberal lamestream LSM media sure does whine and whinge about things, even when they get their own way.
 
2012-10-25 01:55:13 PM

bulldg4life: Elandriel: If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire. He'd probably still be a smarmy douche, but obviously these jackasses are going out of their way to stack the deck against (D). Someone should clip their wings.

If the left had a James O'Keefe he would be constantly denounced as an unamerican liar ruining the electoral process of America by attempting to destroy the GOP because Obama is an awful president.

This bizarrO'Keefe would've already been denounced and imprisoned.


Stupid liberal media can't even defend its own.
 
2012-10-25 01:56:06 PM

brigid_fitch: But...but...but...ACORN!!

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!

Voter registration fraud. Voter fraud (the last case of which was by a Republican IIRC) is different. But this is the EXACT thing that the GOP jumped all over ACORN for when they discovered...*gasp*...eleven entire instances of voter registration fraud.


My friend ran an ACORN office... where every. single. goddamn. voter registration form was sequentially numbered. You were given, say, 260-280, you BETTER turn those back in. Filled out *or* not. Drop them in a puddle? Put them on the dash to dry and turn them in.

Of course, that meant they also turned in some likely fake names - because throwing out legit registrations would have been worse.
 
2012-10-25 01:57:38 PM
How many thousands or tens of thousands registration forms have already been shiatcanned in Virginia, Ohio, Florida and Colorado?
 
2012-10-25 02:00:14 PM
Is there anyone lurking in this thread who's willing to honestly post something to the effect of

"I'm a Republican and I condemn this as well as the many other similar acts being carried out by my Party's employees"?

/anyone?

//Bueller?
 
2012-10-25 02:00:23 PM
Ken "Obamacare is Unconstitutional Because I Say So" Coochinelli and Bob "Black People Know How Sorry We Are For Slavery" McDonnell won't be prosecuting Republican Party-related registration fraud?

THIS IS MY FEDERALLY-FUNDED SHOCKED FACE

// well, the top half is federally funded
// the bottom half is funded by the top half, and is constantly complaining about both the top half of my face and the federal funding it gets
 
2012-10-25 02:00:32 PM
so the best thing to do is get pictures of the company owner and employees and spam them online with tag terms of fascists and have them get death threats. That will make it public media...just sayin..not telling you to do it...just an observation.
 
2012-10-25 02:01:45 PM

Elandriel: If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire.


Why? O'Keefe has yet to deliver a legitimate "story", even the new one today is nothing but a big pile of bullshiat. He hasn't actually "exposed" anything. The guy is such a douche that Massengil has sent a cease and desist letter.
 
2012-10-25 02:02:07 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto
Of course, that meant they also turned in some likely fake names - because throwing out legit registrations would have been worse.

IIRC one of the things they were pilloried for was turning in fake names that they themselves flagged as suspicious.
 
2012-10-25 02:05:49 PM
Can the feds get involved? This needs to stop, and the people responsible need to go to jail for a long time.

/And I'm including Cucinelli here. As far as I'm concerned, looking the other way in a case like this, especially when you derive partisan advantage from it, makes you as guilty as the perpetrator.
 
2012-10-25 02:06:08 PM

RanDomino: IIRC one of the things they were pilloried for was turning in fake names that they themselves flagged as suspicious.


Yeah, but if they hadn't collected those names in the first place, there wouldn't have been suspicious activity in the first place! So it's, it's uh, it's still their fault!
 
2012-10-25 02:09:10 PM
I look forward to the day when our elections are not managed by corrupt humans and instead are counted, fairly and justly, by a femputer.
 
2012-10-25 02:09:34 PM

StopLurkListen: Yup, "Voter ID" can only address ONE TYPE of election fraud: An individual voter casting one or more ballots *in-person* than should be allowed.

It can't address ballot stuffing, registration fraud, vote dumping, counting fraud, or voter interference (too few booths in certain areas, or inaccessible locations or inconvenient hours, or confusingly designed ballots) or voter intimidation.

But guess which one is a Republican crusade?


Don't forget doing away with same day registration while purging voter roles. "Hey, look! A man named Juan Sanchez has died. We'd better make sure that all 15 people with that name are purged, just to be sure. Oh, and don't send any notice to them so they can do anything to get registered again before election day, because small government and stuff."
 
2012-10-25 02:10:46 PM
And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.
 
2012-10-25 02:16:20 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


Yes, because taking 72 or 96 hours to file a batch of forms is a lot different than throwing the ones you don't agree with in the rubbish.
 
2012-10-25 02:16:22 PM
OK time to bring in the U.N.!
 
2012-10-25 02:23:11 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


The voter registration drives over holiday weekends might have been part of the problem? Or for that matter over any weekend.
 
2012-10-25 02:38:25 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


To quote Ann Coulter, you're a retard.
 
2012-10-25 02:39:14 PM

sdd2000: Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.

The voter registration drives over holiday weekends might have been part of the problem? Or for that matter over any weekend.


SSSH! There will be no logic here! Only explanations as to how Liberals are the REAL monsters!
 
2012-10-25 02:40:42 PM

Heraclitus: OK time to bring in the U.N.!


They're already coming in for this election.

/The Justice Department needs to investigate this if the Virginia AG won't.
 
2012-10-25 02:47:50 PM

Epoch_Zero: I look forward to the day when our elections are not managed by corrupt humans and instead are counted, fairly and justly, by a femputer.


Owned by Tagg Romney.
 
2012-10-25 02:48:51 PM
Republicans - The Macro Economics Socialists. Also called Communism.
 
2012-10-25 02:49:38 PM

TheOther: How many thousands or tens of thousands registration forms have already been shiatcanned in Virginia, Ohio, Florida and Colorado?


Here in CO, also if you tried to register online in the last day... the site was down most of the day, and the Secretary of State (who speaks at the Heritage Foundation all the time) admitted that about a thousand more registrations just got lost... people think they registered online directly with the state, and they got confirmation messages... but they aren't registered.
 
2012-10-25 02:51:32 PM
And to the shock of absolutely no one, there isn't a trace of this story on cnn.com or nbcnews.com or yahoonews.com. I'm not at home but I feel fairly confident that none of this is getting television coverage either yet the ACORN manufactured scandal was covered non-stop for a couple of weeks
 
2012-10-25 02:53:25 PM

brigid_fitch: But...but...but...ACORN!!

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!

Voter registration fraud. Voter fraud (the last case of which was by a Republican IIRC) is different. But this is the EXACT thing that the GOP jumped all over ACORN for when they discovered...*gasp*...eleven entire instances of voter registration fraud.


and they were reported by Acorn as being suspicious.
 
2012-10-25 02:53:44 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


Yup. Spot on. Democrats want to make it easier to collect voter registrations and get them to the state, even on three day weekends and holidays, or just collect all week and turn them in on fridays. Republicans want to throw them into the dumpster so people who think they've registered can't vote at all. These things are totally the same. Thank you for astutely pointing that out.
 
2012-10-25 02:56:17 PM
If they only had to show ID this wouldn't have happened.
 
2012-10-25 02:57:49 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


You're right....it takes much less time to throw them out.
 
2012-10-25 03:00:22 PM

birdboy2000: Can the feds get involved? This needs to stop, and the people responsible need to go to jail for a long time.

/And I'm including Cucinelli here. As far as I'm concerned, looking the other way in a case like this, especially when you derive partisan advantage from it, makes you as guilty as the perpetrator.


No, no. This system is perfect. There can't be any problems when prosecutors get their jobs via partisan elections.
 
2012-10-25 03:02:56 PM

birchman: If they only had to show ID this wouldn't have happened.


That, and tax-cuts for the rich.
 
2012-10-25 03:06:29 PM

StopLurkListen: Yup, "Voter ID" can only address ONE TYPE of election fraud: An individual voter casting one or more ballots *in-person* than should be allowed.

It can't address ballot stuffing, registration fraud, vote dumping, counting fraud, or voter interference (too few booths in certain areas, or inaccessible locations or inconvenient hours, or confusingly designed ballots) or voter intimidation.

But guess which one is a Republican crusade?


And it's a crusade to disenfranchise, not to counter FRAUD. Lets call a spade a spade here.
 
2012-10-25 03:14:20 PM
They're going for it. Nobody seems to care that people's rights are being taken away, so they're just going for broke at this point. Nothing to lose, after all.

All the bluster about voter ID being done to "protect the integrity of voting" and they're just going full-tilt to disenfranchise, even tossing registrations in the dumpster to turn people away on voting day. And nothing will be done about it. It just gets uglier from here.
 
2012-10-25 03:27:57 PM

Krymson Tyde: A day or two ago someone posted a comprehensive list of similar things that has happened this election cycle. Does anyone remember which thread it was in?


I don't remember the original poster, but I saved it:

"How to Rig an Election: The G.O.P. aims to paint the country red"
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2012/10/hbc-90008943

GOP admits it wants to making it more difficult to vote
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/you-gotta-fight-for-yo u r-right-to-vote
http://www.freep.com/article/20120807/COL33/120807094/Stephen-Henders o n-A-lousy-feeling-on-Election-Day-thanks-to-Secretary-of-State-Ruth-Jo hnson-

4 GOP staffers indicted in "blatant and disgraceful" election fraud
http://politic365.com/2012/08/09/4-republican-staffers-indicted-for-b l atant-and-disgraceful-voter-fraud-in-michigan/

Proven GOP voter fraud. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convic ted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=1

More GOP fraud. This time in Massachusetts
http://www.wgbhnews.org/post/galvin-calls-voter-fraud-allegations-pre t ty-extreme

GOP voter fraud in Texas
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Fort-Bend-candidate-v o ted-twice-in-same-3937458.php

More suspicious voter forms found in Florida
After reports of irregularities, state GOP fires company hired to register people
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49227596/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/# . UGjV_hi7ZGY

Columbus Ohio GOP Chair Opposes More Early Voting, Saying It Helps African-Americans
"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. "Let's be fair and reasonable."
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-p o ll-hours-isnt-just-political.html
 
2012-10-25 03:32:03 PM

Cataholic: And yet when Florida passed a law requiring that registration forms be turned in within 48 hours (or face criminal charges) the left went bananas trying to get it undone.


Meanwhile, next to a dumpster in an alternate universe where that law is in place:
"Curses! I want to throw these filthy liebrul voter registrations out but I can't... because it's against the law! I'm supposed to turn them in by tonight! Foiled again by the rules!"
 
2012-10-25 03:37:41 PM

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!


hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!
 
2012-10-25 03:59:49 PM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: Krymson Tyde: A day or two ago someone posted a comprehensive list of similar things that has happened this election cycle. Does anyone remember which thread it was in?

I don't remember the original poster, but I saved it:

"How to Rig an Election: The G.O.P. aims to paint the country red"
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2012/10/hbc-90008943

GOP admits it wants to making it more difficult to vote
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/you-gotta-fight-for-yo u r-right-to-vote
http://www.freep.com/article/20120807/COL33/120807094/Stephen-Henders o n-A-lousy-feeling-on-Election-Day-thanks-to-Secretary-of-State-Ruth-Jo hnson-

4 GOP staffers indicted in "blatant and disgraceful" election fraud
http://politic365.com/2012/08/09/4-republican-staffers-indicted-for-b l atant-and-disgraceful-voter-fraud-in-michigan/

Proven GOP voter fraud. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/us/indiana-secretary-of-state-convic ted-in-voter-fraud-case.html?_r=1

More GOP fraud. This time in Massachusetts
http://www.wgbhnews.org/post/galvin-calls-voter-fraud-allegations-pre t ty-extreme

GOP voter fraud in Texas
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Fort-Bend-candidate-v o ted-twice-in-same-3937458.php

More suspicious voter forms found in Florida
After reports of irregularities, state GOP fires company hired to register people
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49227596/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/# . UGjV_hi7ZGY

Columbus Ohio GOP Chair Opposes More Early Voting, Saying It Helps African-Americans
"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. "Let's be fair and reasonable."
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/08/19/fight-over-p o ll-hours-isnt-just-political.html


Each one of these is an isolated incident that is in no way a part of any kind of pattern... just because it's all the same party, in the same election cycle, and they admit it... doesn't mean it's true.

BSABSVR
 
2012-10-25 04:01:02 PM

THX 1138: RanDomino: IIRC one of the things they were pilloried for was turning in fake names that they themselves flagged as suspicious.

Yeah, but if they hadn't collected those names in the first place, there wouldn't have been suspicious activity in the first place! So it's, it's uh, it's still their fault!


And it is not as if America is completely devoid of morons that have changed their names to Mickey Mouse or Moon Base Zappa, so it is not as if you can really be 100% sure that if the people taking the registrations pruned the ones they thought were problematic, they would be denying some people the right to vote. Guess it shows if you have enough media on your side you can make anything you like stick against anyone, no matter how stupid and non-factual it is.
 
2012-10-25 04:17:49 PM
Chill y'all, it might not be as bad as you think:

Investigation authorized.
 
2012-10-25 04:20:35 PM
 
2012-10-25 04:22:10 PM

Tomahawk513: Chill y'all, it might not be as bad as you think:

Investigation authorized.


Do you think without all the backlash the Board would have voted this way? If so there is a bridge my Aunt Brooklyn left me that I would like to sell you.
 
2012-10-25 04:24:13 PM

brigid_fitch: But...but...but...ACORN!!

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!

Voter registration fraud. Voter fraud (the last case of which was by a Republican IIRC) is different. But this is the EXACT thing that the GOP jumped all over ACORN for when they discovered...*gasp*...eleven entire instances of voter registration fraud.


ACORN was hounded to death because some of their paid volunteers turned in cards that they had personally filled out with bogus information in order to pad their paychecks. ACORN had to turn them in because it's illegal not to turn in every voter registration card. ACORN DID NOT dump dozens or hundreds of voter registration forms into the trash.

These guys should be strung up in the public square.
 
2012-10-25 04:34:41 PM
I'm thinking its finally crossed from the "rounding error" level of fraud to the "I don't care if it's our party, we're going to have pitchforks and torches outside our office!" level of fraud.
 
2012-10-25 04:50:43 PM

Stile4aly: brigid_fitch: But...but...but...ACORN!!

FlashHarry: hey, look - more actual voter fraud - and once again it's perpetrated by republicans!

Voter registration fraud. Voter fraud (the last case of which was by a Republican IIRC) is different. But this is the EXACT thing that the GOP jumped all over ACORN for when they discovered...*gasp*...eleven entire instances of voter registration fraud.

ACORN was hounded to death because some of their paid volunteers turned in cards that they had personally filled out with bogus information in order to pad their paychecks. ACORN had to turn them in because it's illegal not to turn in every voter registration card. ACORN DID NOT dump dozens or hundreds of voter registration forms into the trash.

These guys should be strung up in the public square.


This. ACORN actually followed the law, to the letter, even so far as to indicate their belief that some of the received voter registration forms may be fraudulent. But, that didn't matter - the agenda was to hinder the poor when it came to voting, and so O'Keefe's stupidity became a pretext.

This? What this group did was actually illegal - not suspicious, not worthy of smear, but actually farking illegal. And, yes, there should be clear and severe penalties for violating election law in this country.
 
2012-10-25 04:54:19 PM

Elandriel: If the left had a James O'Keefe, this would be a wildfire. He'd probably still be a smarmy douche, but obviously these jackasses are going out of their way to stack the deck against (D). Someone should clip their wings.


This guy's just fine.
 
2012-10-25 04:59:49 PM
so will the corporate media stay stone silent on this per usual?
 
2012-10-25 05:53:57 PM
How are they deciding which ones to throw away? My understanding is that Virginia has open primaries, so you don't have to pick a party when registering.


palelizard: Weaver95: look, just because something happened three times in a row, over a short period of time and is clearly evidence of a problem does NOT mean that there's a problem! there's SOCALISMS going on. SOCIALISMS! and Obama! when you put your hand...into a bunch of goo....that a moment before was your best friends face...well then, you'll know what to do.

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Republicans are just socializing the benefits while privatizing the risk. Isn't that what the Dims what to do with the country? The lieberal lamestream LSM media sure does whine and whinge about things, even when they get their own way.


You're really bad a trolling.
 
2012-10-25 07:14:26 PM
Hey it worked for George Zimmerman and his Florida prosecutor buddies -- should go away as soon as Honey Boo Boo gets a scholarship to med school.
 
2012-10-25 08:35:44 PM
Another Democrat case of voter fraud:

Link
 
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