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(Talking Points Memo)   John McCain sabotages Mitt Romney by pulling his support from Dick Mourdock. Democrats say it's like a gift from God   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 66
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2012-10-25 10:53:15 AM  
I was very tempted to vandalize a bunch of lawn signs this morning on my way to work, but apparently the pro-rape-baby agenda plays pretty well here in Sisterfarkistan.
 
2012-10-25 10:54:36 AM  
Does anyone call him Dick Moredick?
 
2012-10-25 10:57:47 AM  
It's inconceivable to me why more women aren't offended by the Republican party... inconceivable!

i362.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-25 10:57:57 AM  
Like anyone listens to that RINO.
 
2012-10-25 10:58:33 AM  
OH SNAP
 
2012-10-25 10:59:52 AM  
Dock Moardick
 
2012-10-25 11:00:19 AM  
Listen Allah, y'all
 
2012-10-25 11:00:25 AM  
Romney's struggling to be as politically capable as Palin at this point, it's no surprise whatsoever that McCain can appear more presidential on accident.
 
2012-10-25 11:00:29 AM  
I'm glad to see McCain has overcome it, but we need some serious medical research into the effects of long-term Viagra addiction among the old white guys in the Republican party.
 
2012-10-25 11:00:34 AM  
Until the rape shiat is removed as one of the key facets of the GOP platform they are all equally guilty.
 
2012-10-25 11:01:51 AM  
Problems with your current election strategy?
It's about time you turned it over to a super genius!

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-25 11:03:17 AM  
McCain wouldn't be someone who really impacts what anyone else in the world thinks about anything.
 
2012-10-25 11:04:13 AM  
Paul Begala used "e.g." in a spoken context. Way to break the stereotype of Democrats being eggheaded nerds, dude.

// not that I object
// but it's like using "whom" correctly in speech
// you sound like a highfalutin' douchetowel
 
2012-10-25 11:04:45 AM  
At breakfast stop, me, @sppeoples and @llerer asked Romney repeatedly about Mourdock. He did not respond.
- @samyoungman via Mobile Web

Romney, you are REALLY doing it wrong.
 
2012-10-25 11:05:20 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: At breakfast stop, me, @sppeoples and @llerer asked Romney repeatedly about Mourdock. He did not respond.
- @samyoungman via Mobile Web

Romney, you are REALLY doing it wrong.


If you ignore problems long enough, they go away.

Or, in Bapp's case, they stop banging on the cellar door.
 
2012-10-25 11:06:42 AM  

pkellmey: McCain wouldn't be someone who really impacts what anyone else in the world thinks about anything.


Sure, until you realize that there is only meta-politics in the US. John McCain's removal of his endorsement doesn't do anything, but the coverage of it does. Every second it is covered is another second the GOP isn't in control of the message, which means their lack of control of the message will be covered. It's all just math and news now. Policy is irrelevant.
 
2012-10-25 11:10:42 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: At breakfast stop, me, @sppeoples and @llerer asked Romney repeatedly about Mourdock. He did not respond.
- @samyoungman via Mobile Web

Romney, you are REALLY doing it wrong.


If he supports him, he loses voters. If he denounces him, he loses voters. Romney's only logical play is to say nothing at all.
 
2012-10-25 11:10:46 AM  

PonceAlyosha: pkellmey: McCain wouldn't be someone who really impacts what anyone else in the world thinks about anything.

Sure, until you realize that there is only meta-politics in the US. John McCain's removal of his endorsement doesn't do anything, but the coverage of it does. Every second it is covered is another second the GOP isn't in control of the message, which means their lack of control of the message will be covered. It's all just math and news now. Policy is irrelevant.


It's McCain. He gets as much air time as Palin does now. Any real story coverage is over before tomorrow evening. No math involved.
 
2012-10-25 11:11:06 AM  

PsyLord: It's inconceivable to me why more women aren't offended by the Republican party... inconceivable!

[i362.photobucket.com image 501x480]


Colossians 3:18 Wives, be subject to your husbands
 
2012-10-25 11:12:02 AM  
Even if you take away the rape stuff, the man believes a mystical ghost wills pregnancies to happen.
 
2012-10-25 11:12:10 AM  
Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.
 
2012-10-25 11:13:05 AM  
Every time I think about respecting this McCain guy, I think of Palin, and ...

But if it keeps going like this, I'll sooner or later have to restore my respect for him.

Anyway, the best part of all these is that the election is 12 days away and there is really not much time left to push it under the rug.

Time to bring in the tax return from under the rug?
 
2012-10-25 11:15:38 AM  

Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.


As opposed to the Republicans' fresh new strategy of 'Cut taxes, wave dick at Iran, rape, rape'.

/They like rape.
 
2012-10-25 11:15:54 AM  

PonceAlyosha: pkellmey: McCain wouldn't be someone who really impacts what anyone else in the world thinks about anything.

Sure, until you realize that there is only meta-politics in the US. John McCain's removal of his endorsement doesn't do anything, but the coverage of it does. Every second it is covered is another second the GOP isn't in control of the message, which means their lack of control of the message will be covered. It's all just math and news now. Policy is irrelevant.


There it is.
 
2012-10-25 11:16:10 AM  

Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.


You're defending a man relying on a 2000+ year old story book to cover him for his barbaric views, and you want new ideas from Democrats.
 
2012-10-25 11:18:40 AM  

Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.



Fine. Let's talk about a Republican VP candidate referring to Obama's speech as "shuck and jive". Or is that racist Republican same ol', same ol'?
 
2012-10-25 11:19:39 AM  

scumshine: PonceAlyosha: pkellmey: McCain wouldn't be someone who really impacts what anyone else in the world thinks about anything.

Sure, until you realize that there is only meta-politics in the US. John McCain's removal of his endorsement doesn't do anything, but the coverage of it does. Every second it is covered is another second the GOP isn't in control of the message, which means their lack of control of the message will be covered. It's all just math and news now. Policy is irrelevant.

There it is.


Isn't it absolutely vile?
 
2012-10-25 11:20:31 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Even if you take away the rape stuff, the man believes a mystical ghost wills pregnancies to happen.


Well, he did knock up Mary, so there may be something to this
 
2012-10-25 11:21:17 AM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Does anyone call him Dick Moredick?


It's Dick Mourcock
 
2012-10-25 11:22:34 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.


Fine. Let's talk about a Republican VP candidate referring to Obama's speech as "shuck and jive". Or is that racist Republican same ol', same ol'?


Race card? Oh yes it is. I speak jive, so I know this to be true.
 
2012-10-25 11:23:58 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

You're defending a man relying on a 2000+ year old story book to cover him for his barbaric views, and you want new ideas from Democrats.


Not defending anyone, actually. Just acting tired. So very tired, of this tactic.
 
2012-10-25 11:24:03 AM  
www.vaguely-specific.com
MORE RAPES! I DEMAND MORE RAPES ME DAMN YOU! MORE RAPES! MAKE THE B*TCHES SCREAM!!!!
 
2012-10-25 11:24:24 AM  

mayIFark: Every time I think about respecting this McCain guy, I think of Palin, and ...

But if it keeps going like this, I'll sooner or later have to restore my respect for him.

Anyway, the best part of all these is that the election is 12 days away and there is really not much time left to push it under the rug.

Time to bring in the tax return from under the rug?


broken clock/ twice a day
blind squirrel finding nuts...

take your pick
 
2012-10-25 11:26:06 AM  

Cletus C.: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.


Fine. Let's talk about a Republican VP candidate referring to Obama's speech as "shuck and jive". Or is that racist Republican same ol', same ol'?

Race card? Oh yes it is. I speak jive, so I know this to be true.


Race card? Sho nuff iz. Now how cum dat nice lookin white woman dun gone n' did sumpin as low down as playin' dat dere race card? Iz dat da same ol' same ol' racist stuff doze Republicans use instead of new ideas?
 
2012-10-25 11:32:35 AM  

Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.


Dude, I generally consider you one of the better conservatives on fark. Sometimes you can say some stupid shiat (but, this is FARK, who doesn't?). But you are not the retarded troll that tenpoundsofdumb, beta_turd, and randomjsasshole. But I have to say this comment is really dumb. There wouldn't BE a "War on Women" narrative if the Republicans would just STOP saying this stupid shiat! They can't seem to learn to drop the stupid RAPE angle. And, seriously, if a Democrat said something just as stupid, it would be plastered all over the 24 hour news cycle, and every Republican from Sarah Palin to Dick Cheney would be hollering for their head on a silver platter. This has nothing to do with Democrats trying to re-ignite a "War on Women", it's just Democrats saying "Holy F*ck, dude, seriously? And Republicans, you are OK with this?". That's all it is.
 
2012-10-25 11:33:37 AM  

Cletus C.: HotWingConspiracy: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

You're defending a man relying on a 2000+ year old story book to cover him for his barbaric views, and you want new ideas from Democrats.

Not defending anyone, actually. Just acting tired. So very tired, of this tactic.


But you are. He is the one that revived the war, after all. His opposition is free to call him on it.
 
2012-10-25 11:36:05 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Shrugging Atlas: At breakfast stop, me, @sppeoples and @llerer asked Romney repeatedly about Mourdock. He did not respond.
- @samyoungman via Mobile Web

Romney, you are REALLY doing it wrong.

If he supports him, he loses voters. If he denounces him, he loses voters. Romney's only logical play is to say nothing at all.


I'm not sure I totally agree. It's logical if he can run out the clock on this, but there's a political eternity between now and the election. Romney should not want the topic of conversation to be Mourdock, Romney, and their Party's position on abortion and rape for the next week and a half.

He's going to have to kick this guy to the curb, and the longer he waits the worse it's going to be for him. The loonies that have no problem with Mourdock aren't going to not vote for either Mourdock or Romney because Romney asks him to pull the ad or otherwise runs away from him. In the meantime, Obama has already pivoted back over to women's rights and is getting a lot of play on that front. Romney not taking a firm position on this is letting Democrats jump all over him.

Romney's probably screwed on this no matter what, but I think doing absolutely nothing is the worst thing he can do.
 
2012-10-25 11:40:07 AM  
UPDATE: Oct. 25 -- McCain spokesman Brian Rogers on Thursday clarified McCain's earlier comments that he would withdraw support for Mourdock if he did not apologize, saying that the Arizona senator still supports the Indiana Senate candidate.

"Senator McCain was traveling yesterday in Florida and did not have an opportunity to see Mr. Mourdock's full press conference before he taped his CNN interview," Rogers said, referring to the Wednesday conference where Mourdock said he regretted that he had been misinterpreted. "Senator McCain is glad that Mr. Mourdock apologized to the people of Indiana and clarified his previous statement. Senator McCain hopes the people of Indiana will elect Mr. Mourdock to the U.S. Senate."
 
2012-10-25 11:40:16 AM  

whosits_112: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.

Dude, I generally consider you one of the better conservatives on fark. Sometimes you can say some stupid shiat (but, this is FARK, who doesn't?). But you are not the retarded troll that tenpoundsofdumb, beta_turd, and randomjsasshole. But I have to say this comment is really dumb. There wouldn't BE a "War on Women" narrative if the Republicans would just STOP saying this stupid shiat! They can't seem to learn to drop the stupid RAPE angle. And, seriously, if a Democrat said something just as stupid, it would be plastered all over the 24 hour news cycle, and every Republican from Sarah Palin to Dick Cheney would be hollering for their head on a silver platter. This has nothing to do with Democrats trying to re-ignite a "War on Women", it's just Democrats saying "Holy F*ck, dude, seriously? And Republicans, you are OK with this?". That's all it is.


Dude, I'm all for Mourdock and Akin having their heads on sticks at the castle gate. Dumbasses be dumbasses. Don't send them to Washington, please.

But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.

Romney denounced the comments of both. Good enough for me. TV ad? Considering the septic tank discharge being unleashed relentlessly on our TV screens these days and the fact Romney made the ad before the assbubble comment, whatever.
 
2012-10-25 11:51:16 AM  

Cletus C.: Dude, I'm all for Mourdock and Akin having their heads on sticks at the castle gate. Dumbasses be dumbasses. Don't send them to Washington, please.

But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.


You chose today to break character? I'm just... I'm simply...

I don't even know what to think anymore.
 
2012-10-25 11:53:19 AM  

Cletus C.: whosits_112: Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.

Dude, I generally consider you one of the better conservatives on fark. Sometimes you can say some stupid shiat (but, this is FARK, who doesn't?). But you are not the retarded troll that tenpoundsofdumb, beta_turd, and randomjsasshole. But I have to say this comment is really dumb. There wouldn't BE a "War on Women" narrative if the Republicans would just STOP saying this stupid shiat! They can't seem to learn to drop the stupid RAPE angle. And, seriously, if a Democrat said something just as stupid, it would be plastered all over the 24 hour news cycle, and every Republican from Sarah Palin to Dick Cheney would be hollering for their head on a silver platter. This has nothing to do with Democrats trying to re-ignite a "War on Women", it's just Democrats saying "Holy F*ck, dude, seriously? And Republicans, you are OK with this?". That's all it is.

Dude, I'm all for Mourdock and Akin having their heads on sticks at the castle gate. Dumbasses be dumbasses. Don't send them to Washington, please.

But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.

Romney denounced the comments of both. Good enough for me. TV ad? Considering the septic tank discharge being unleashed relentlessly on our TV screens these days and the fact Romney made the ad before the assbubble comment, whatever.


I'm all for Akin Mourcock having their vileness exposed to the light of day. As for the guilt by association angle? Well, I think it is a matter of degrees. Rev. Wright was a pastor at Obama's church. Was Obama sitting there when Wright said "God DAMN America?" I dunno. Was Romney there when Akin Mourcock said "LOL Rape babbys r a gift frum GAWD"? No. But he is a politician, associating with these other politicians, and that normally means they support what one another said. If Rev. Wright was a pol as well, and Obama was stumping for his campaign, then it would be of near equal footing, though I honestly find "God DAMN America" as tame compared to "Rape babbys".
 
2012-10-25 11:55:52 AM  

Cletus C.: But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.


This is not guilt by association. These (Akin and Mourdock) will be the duly-elected legislators feeding Romney bills to sign into law. Unless and until Romney says he'd veto their shiat, it's not a farfetched assumption that he'd grudgingly sign the "No Abortions Anywhere Act" (which also coincidentally cuts taxes on the top bracket and kills the mortgage interest deduction). Romney's position preferences aside, he hasn't said that going beyond them is a deal-breaker. Obama has.

You know how Democratic campaign messaging has included the "vote for Democrats for Congress, too"? Because this [gestures at Akin/Mourdock] is what you get otherwise. They'll be writing the laws and sending them to a sympathetic party guy in the WH.
 
2012-10-25 11:57:32 AM  

Cletus C.: Dude, I'm all for Mourdock and Akin having their heads on sticks at the castle gate. Dumbasses be dumbasses. Don't send them to Washington, please.

But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.


Part of the (depressing) difference: One assumes that the vile views of Mourdock and Akin are there because they're what the voters want. Akin is still within shouting distance of winning his race, right?

So anyone running as a Republican is going to have to pander to that voting bloc, regardless of actual personal views.
 
2012-10-25 11:59:32 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Cletus C.: But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.

This is not guilt by association. These (Akin and Mourdock) will be the duly-elected legislators feeding Romney bills to sign into law. Unless and until Romney says he'd veto their shiat, it's not a farfetched assumption that he'd grudgingly sign the "No Abortions Anywhere Act" (which also coincidentally cuts taxes on the top bracket and kills the mortgage interest deduction). Romney's position preferences aside, he hasn't said that going beyond them is a deal-breaker. Obama has.

You know how Democratic campaign messaging has included the "vote for Democrats for Congress, too"? Because this [gestures at Akin/Mourdock] is what you get otherwise. They'll be writing the laws and sending them to a sympathetic party guy in the WH.


Ahwww. It's just a shame Romney has to be Bush, much less Akin and Mourdock. Let him be Romney. Obama manages to work around the wingnuts in his party, maybe Romney can too.
 
2012-10-25 12:06:39 PM  

Cletus C.: Dr Dreidel: Cletus C.: But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.

This is not guilt by association. These (Akin and Mourdock) will be the duly-elected legislators feeding Romney bills to sign into law. Unless and until Romney says he'd veto their shiat, it's not a farfetched assumption that he'd grudgingly sign the "No Abortions Anywhere Act" (which also coincidentally cuts taxes on the top bracket and kills the mortgage interest deduction). Romney's position preferences aside, he hasn't said that going beyond them is a deal-breaker. Obama has.

You know how Democratic campaign messaging has included the "vote for Democrats for Congress, too"? Because this [gestures at Akin/Mourdock] is what you get otherwise. They'll be writing the laws and sending them to a sympathetic party guy in the WH.

Ahwww. It's just a shame Romney has to be Bush, much less Akin and Mourdock. Let him be Romney. Obama manages to work around the wingnuts in his party, maybe Romney can too.


That's funny. The left denounces the wingnuts. The right embraces them and cheers their barbaric views.
 
2012-10-25 12:07:38 PM  

whosits_112: I'm all for Akin Mourcock having their vileness exposed to the light of day. As for the guilt by association angle? Well, I think it is a matter of degrees. Rev. Wright was a pastor at Obama's church. Was Obama sitting there when Wright said "God DAMN America?" I dunno. Was Romney there when Akin Mourcock said "LOL Rape babbys r a gift frum GAWD"? No. But he is a politician, associating with these other politicians, and that normally means they support what one another said. If Rev. Wright was a pol as well, and Obama was stumping for his campaign, then it would be of near equal footing, though I honestly find "God DAMN America" as tame compared to "Rape babbys".


I disagree. The Democrats are successfully using the Pro-life position against itself. If you really believe that a distinct and legally protected life begins at conception there should be abortions at all - even in cases of rape. Many forms of birth control that prevent implantation would also be effectively killing that unique life - so they would have to go. So would Plan B.

If you want something to compare to Obama and Rev Wright the correct association would be the Mormon church leadership. Romney was both a Bishop and Steak President for the Mormon church. That made him part of the leadership. So all of the things that the Mormon church does can be aimed directly at Romney due to his tight connection. And I'm not just just talking about Prop 8 in California.
 
2012-10-25 12:09:11 PM  

madgonad: should = shouldn't and Steak=Stake.... I am getting hungry though.

 
2012-10-25 12:11:43 PM  

Gaseous Anomaly: Cletus C.: Dude, I'm all for Mourdock and Akin having their heads on sticks at the castle gate. Dumbasses be dumbasses. Don't send them to Washington, please.

But the guilt by association game is tiring. Same shiat, in many ways, people were trying to play with Obama and the Rev. Wright.

Part of the (depressing) difference: One assumes that the vile views of Mourdock and Akin are there because they're what the voters want. Akin is still within shouting distance of winning his race, right?

So anyone running as a Republican is going to have to pander to that voting bloc, regardless of actual personal views.


There's no arguing the fact Romney pandered like a pandering panda during the Republican primaries. His pandering allowed him to carve through the worst of the Republican Party and put a demonstrable moderate on the ticket. He's a panderer but a clever panderer.

I like the moderate Romney he's always been.
 
2012-10-25 12:14:54 PM  

Cletus C.: Reviving the War on Women, eh?

New ideas, Democrats. New ideas.

That's why the race is so close. Same ol,' same ol' from you.


I know; it;s horrible the way the Democrats keep forcing decent Republican men to say all these awful things.
 
2012-10-25 12:16:09 PM  

Cletus C.: There's no arguing the fact Romney pandered like a pandering panda during the Republican primaries. His pandering allowed him to carve through the worst of the Republican Party and put a demonstrable moderate on the ticket. He's a panderer but a clever panderer.

I like the moderate Romney he's always been.


So if he's essentially a modern Democrat... why be a Republican if you have to lie your way through the primary?
 
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