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2012-10-25 01:40:59 PM  

JerseyTim: Is there anyone who actually likes Chris Matthews? I mean, I'm a pretty liberal guy, and never once have I or any of my comrade ever said, "I can't wait to find out what Chris Matthews says about this!" or "Did you see Chris Matthews last night?"

I think that guy is like the Chris Berman of MSNBC. They keep him around because they think he's indispensable, but in reality no one actually likes him.


No one likes Tweety. He was all over Bush's dick during the lead-up to Iraq and only switched when MSNBC was taking its left turn around '06-07 in order to keep his job. When Palin's first tweet used Matthews as an example, I knew she had no leg to stand on.
 
2012-10-25 01:43:01 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: In my experience, the only people calling President Obama a messiah are sarcastic right-wing morans, and 'lefties' trolling or parodying right-wing morans.


wait... so you're saying that the True Believers don't insult themselves by using the "Messiah" label to describe Obama and that it is used only by those attempting to mock those True Believers? Mind blown.
 
2012-10-25 01:43:35 PM  

Sybarite: while talking to Rachel Maddow about her visit to Afghanistan, wondered, "What has it been like, as you shuck and jive, hang out with the men over there, the women over there, in uniform risking their lives every day?"

Yes, because language is completely neutral and not contextualized by its use in centuries of oppression. "What do you mean I can't refer to a black person as a monkey? I call white people that all time!"


It's okay to say, they are taking it back...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-25 01:43:49 PM  

zarberg: ghare: kombat_unit: HotWingConspiracy: That's because conservatives are racists. If they don't like it, stop being racists.

3/10. Incredibly large brush, should get at least 6 bites.


Yeah, it's only 9/10 conservatives. You know better, HWC

Or if Guilliani is involved, 9/11 conservatives.


0.81818181818181818181818181818182
 
2012-10-25 01:44:34 PM  
I just don't understand what the right THINKS is going to happen when they seemingly fo out of their way to bring up old racist terms to describe something that a modern pejorotive could do just as well. Why the "re-nig" bumper sticker? Why the Curious George Obama shirt? The "tar baby" comment? It's like they're looking for racist things to say, that only occur in racist context, and then are surprised when someone actually calls them out on it. It's classless to say the least.
 
2012-10-25 01:46:51 PM  

ExpressPork: Fat Old Broad: Shuck and jive. Rape pregnancy is a gift. Forcible rape. Your body can shut that down. Retard. You're a slut if you use birth control.

This is the MAINSTREAM of the Republican party. I almost can't believe it.

You shouldn't believe it because it's not the case at all. It's easier to pick out a few conservative sound bites and paint them all as evil fascist racist pigs than it is to argue policy. All you need is common sense to know that it is absolutely ridiculous to paint (all) conservatives like this. C Matthews is ridiculous to take issue with someone using this phrase, but I'm not surprised as he is the Glenn Beck of Democrats. I'm surer there are plenty of kooks on both sides, but all you need is common sense to know that you're bring unfair to call this the "mainstream of the Republican Party".

Take MItt Romney for example. For weeks all we heard from every media outlet in America save Fox that he was a bumbling, lying, cheating incompetent who didn't stand a chance against Obama. Love him or hate him, look what happened after America actually saw Mitt argue in a debate and they were able to judge for themselves. Stop letting hack journalists and bloggers make up your mind for you. Stop being so gd partisan.


yes, we saw him pile up lie after lie in an unapologetic and even dickish manner then whine when he got called on his proven lies.

And find me 5 Democratic Senators that believe something along the lines of 'rape babies are a gift from God." Maybe you can track down the 80 members of the House that Allen West says are communists and traitors.

you can't. and that's why you are wrong and should feel badly about yourself.
 
2012-10-25 01:48:27 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: the only people calling President Obama a messiah are sarcastic right-wing morans, and 'lefties' trolling or parodying right-wing morans.


You may not say it outright, but it's evident every day through the overall reactions to him that many on the left feel this way. It's like you're all afraid to criticize him and he can do no wrong. I don't even know where to begin as there is so much evidence of this.

Look at the Obama circle-jerk thread about his appearance on Letterman from earlier today on this very site. The Obajma worship is an embarrassment. It would be comical if it weren't so frightening. It's a like a cult. He is a farking politican you partisan boobs.

Imagine if Banghazi had happened under Bush. Can you all take the blinders off for a second and just imagine the rage if Benghazi had happened under GW?

What happened to all those war protests? Under Bush there was a new one every weekend. You guys get bored w it or what? I noticed the moment BO took office you guys put all your anti-war signs away. I could go on and on.

Those are some very small examples of the big picture. I could go on and on.
 
2012-10-25 01:49:31 PM  

ExpressPork: bulldg4life: What debates were you watching?

Cause that's what I saw from Romney....
He spent all three debates disavowing every policy position he had taken while repeating long debunked talking points and completely avoiding every opportunity to explain his plans as president.

I was not arguing who was better in the debates, or who lied etc. I am making the case (as many liberals have as well) that America's opinion of Romney was largely and unfairly shaped by the media prior to the debates. The debates were really the first chance America had to see who Romney was without looking through the foggy lens of the msm. The poll #'s speak for themselves pre and post debate. You can call him a liar all you want, but you're only kidding yourself and being extraordinarily partisan when you call Romney a liar and pretend Obama is God's gift to politics.


or the sixteen million Republican debates where Mitt Romney... wait for it... lied his ass off on TV again and again and again to the point that even Newt Gingrich called him on it.

if you are a troll, you need more humor, but I fear you are serious and so... you are wrong and should feel badly about yourself.
 
2012-10-25 01:49:58 PM  
Mathews still has a job?
 
2012-10-25 01:51:02 PM  

ExpressPork: HotWingConspiracy: Hahahaha, some of those quotes come from GOP politicians that have won several elections. The remainders are from conservative media stooges that no one in the party would dare to cross.

In short, you're full of shiat.

You want to put the conservatives on the defense because you have nothing else left.


No, you're pretending that GOP policy isn't GOP policy because the nation is shunning it. You've got less than nothing.

The fine Americans of your party would be better off focusing their efforts on policy than playing this riduclous "gotcha" game all the time. More and more Americans are getting tired of it.

No, wrong again. Americans are tired of insane puritans telling them that rape is a good thing.


For the Average Independent or swing voter that is even remotely interested in politics. Their choices are a candidate who is pushing a plan for job growth, and a candidate whose biggest issues seem to be big bird, binders, and bayonets. I'm an Independant voter who has voted for both parties in the past and take it from me - for the last several weeks you've seen an implosion of the D party because of trivial bs like the "3 b's" and the statements by Chris Matthews are no exception.

That's cute. Learn how to spell Independent before claiming the mantle though, you GOP stooge.
 
2012-10-25 01:51:04 PM  

ExpressPork: HotWingConspiracy: Hahahaha, some of those quotes come from GOP politicians that have won several elections. The remainders are from conservative media stooges that no one in the party would dare to cross.

In short, you're full of shiat.

You want to put the conservatives on the defense because you have nothing else left.
The fine Americans of your party would be better off focusing their efforts on policy than playing this riduclous "gotcha" game all the time. More and more Americans are getting tired of it. Whether Mitt's "5-point-plan" is complete BS or not, at least it's a plan.

For the Average Independent or swing voter that is even remotely interested in politics. Their choices are a candidate who is pushing a plan for job growth, and a candidate whose biggest issues seem to be big bird, binders, and bayonets. I'm an Independant voter who has voted for both parties in the past and take it from me - for the last several weeks you've seen an implosion of the D party because of trivial bs like the "3 b's" and the statements by Chris Matthews are no exception.


Let me help you parse the 3b's and what they symbolize:

Big Bird: His big action plan to save the failing economy - to cut funding to something that represents the smallest of fractions in cost.
Binders: His inability to connect with the women of America.
Bayonets: His complete failure in knowing what is going on with the world and how it has changed since 1920.

To you they are just words, but there is deep meaning within them and the fact they each because the top Google searches within minutes illustrates this.
 
2012-10-25 01:51:13 PM  

MagnesDrachen: I just don't understand what the right THINKS is going to happen when they seemingly fo out of their way to bring up old racist terms to describe something that a modern pejorotive could do just as well. Why the "re-nig" bumper sticker? Why the Curious George Obama shirt? The "tar baby" comment? It's like they're looking for racist things to say, that only occur in racist context, and then are surprised when someone actually calls them out on it. It's classless to say the least.


Because if they turn Democrats into people who accuse them of racism all the time, pretty soon everyone else stops caring. Like the boy who cried "Wolf", only the GOP is intentionally sending wolves to strafe the border and run home, having the kid cry "Wolf" and the villagers see nothing. Or Phineas & Ferb, only the GOP is P&F's shenanigans, the Dems are whatsherface and voters are the mom.
 
2012-10-25 01:51:14 PM  

ExpressPork: Imagine if Banghazi had happened under Bush. Can you all take the blinders off for a second and just imagine the rage if Benghazi had happened under GW?


I know, if only there had been a Sept. 11 terror attack on Bush's watch where more than 4 Americans were killed. You know how much Democrats would try to blame him for it, and how Bush would hold himself accountable for...
 
2012-10-25 01:51:37 PM  
Why does that M*A*S*H episode where the crazy general says, "but first, a number" then starts singing,
"When the sun goes down, the tide goes out,
The people gather 'round and they all begin to shout,
"Hey! Hey! Uncle Dud,
It's a treat to beat your feet on the Mississippi Mud.
It's a treat to beat your feet on the Mississippi Mud"

keep running through my head?
 
2012-10-25 01:52:32 PM  
blogs.guardian.co.uk

These "men" are responsible.
 
2012-10-25 01:53:40 PM  

cman: Not a fan of NB, but they do kinda have a point....


no.
it's not who says or doesn't say it, it's who they say it about.

sybarite: "What do you mean I can't refer to a black person as a monkey? I call white people that all time!" 

Please don't try to pretend you don't understand the difference.
 
2012-10-25 01:54:00 PM  

ExpressPork: Imagine if Banghazi had happened under Bush. Can you all take the blinders off for a second and just imagine the rage if Benghazi had happened under GW?


US Embassies were attacked 12 times during Bush. It's a statement to his other colossal foreign policy failures that they were barely worthy of mention in contrast, meanwhile a statement to Obama's success that this is a "scandal".
 
2012-10-25 01:54:30 PM  

cman: Not a fan of NB, but they do kinda have a point....


Really? According to the article, Mathews (who is a jerk for countless other reasons) used the term to describe how Rachel Maddow was hanging out with soldiers in Afghanistan. Sarah Palin was not using it to describe someone hanging out with soldiers. She was using it to describe the preseident talking to crowds of people. Do you honestly think they were using it the same way, and, therefore, both sides are equally bad? Really?
 
2012-10-25 01:55:17 PM  

ExpressPork: bulldg4life: What debates were you watching?

Cause that's what I saw from Romney....
He spent all three debates disavowing every policy position he had taken while repeating long debunked talking points and completely avoiding every opportunity to explain his plans as president.

I was not arguing who was better in the debates, or who lied etc. I am making the case (as many liberals have as well) that America's opinion of Romney was largely and unfairly shaped by the media prior to the debates. The debates were really the first chance America had to see who Romney was without looking through the foggy lens of the msm. The poll #'s speak for themselves pre and post debate. You can call him a liar all you want, but you're only kidding yourself and being extraordinarily partisan when you call Romney a liar and pretend Obama is God's gift to politics.


I am partisan. but also, no one here is saying Obama's shiat don't stink. But Romney is most definitely a liar. To the point that he's pathological and is showing signs of mental disorder.

Also, I suffered in MA under him until I finally left. I've even met him. He's like a shark with the lifeless eyes and insatiable urge to kill and devour, except he's not as good at it. And he is no where near as graceful. So I guess he's not like a shark then. He's just a liar and an ass.

And he is reviled across the state of MA where the people really did try him out, hoping for something different and something workable. But they got a Republican instead.
 
2012-10-25 01:56:33 PM  

Shostie: Brian Setzer did a whole song about this. No one called him racist.


jump and jive.

but yeah, yer close there.
 
2012-10-25 01:58:37 PM  

ExpressPork: demaL-demaL-yeH: the only people calling President Obama a messiah are sarcastic right-wing morans, and 'lefties' trolling or parodying right-wing morans.

You may not say it outright, but it's evident every day through the overall reactions to him that many on the left feel this way. It's like you're all afraid to criticize him and he can do no wrong. I don't even know where to begin as there is so much evidence of this.



The United States hasn't had anything resembling a 'left' since Eugene V. Debs was a presidential candidate.


Look at the Obama circle-jerk thread about his appearance on Letterman from earlier today on this very site. The Obajma worship is an embarrassment. It would be comical if it weren't so frightening. It's a like a cult. He is a farking politican you partisan boobs.

Has anybody said otherwise? *checks profile* Hoosier? You shouldn't be talking about partisan moobs.


Imagine if Banghazi had happened under Bush. Can you all take the blinders off for a second and just imagine the rage if Benghazi had happened under GW?

9/11, anybody?


What happened to all those war protests? Under Bush there was a new one every weekend. You guys get bored w it or what? I noticed the moment BO took office you guys put all your anti-war signs away. I could go on and on.

Those are some very small examples of the big picture. I could go on and on.


Code Pi...
Hold on.
Wait a sec, there.

Hey farkdom!

Speedy Unkosher here is bringing poeslaw to the thread potluck.


/Jerk. Now how will I get rid of this farking cabbage?
 
2012-10-25 02:02:21 PM  

partisan222: yes, we saw him pile up lie after lie in an unapologetic and even dickish manner then whine when he got called on his proven lies.

And find me 5 Democratic Senators that believe something along the lines of 'rape babies are a gift from God." Maybe you can track down the 80 members of the House that Allen West says are communists and traitors.

you can't. and that's why you are wrong and should feel badly about yourself.


Ironically, lIberals are the ones who have so much to learn about tolerance.

You need to be more specific and cite examples when you make comically immature statements like "pile up lie after lie in a dickish manner".

If we're going to split hairs over this statement let's begin with exactly what Richard Mourdock (Indiana GOP Senate candidate) said:
"Life is that gift from God. I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen."

Mourdock's statement is completely asinine and Mourdock should apologize and duck out of the Senate race immediately. I think that he was maybe trying to make a different point, but I'm not obtuse enough to think that this statement is representative of the entire Republican party. That would be a ridiculous assertion and I recognize that on my own because I'm not a partisan boob who let's the news make up my mind for me.
 
2012-10-25 02:02:27 PM  

CPennypacker: Attention shiathead conservatives:

con·text
/ˈkɒntɛkst/ Show Spelled[kon-tekst] Show IPA
noun
1.
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
2.
the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
3.
Mycology . the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus in mushrooms.


wha?
 
2012-10-25 02:02:47 PM  
wth does s&j mean anyways... let me check the urban dictionary, brb
 
2012-10-25 02:02:50 PM  
I've never heard the phrase "shuck and jive". In the given context, I'm not really clear what it means. I guess it sounds "racist" because "jive" is also a word that can have a racial context (though I don't know if it really is inherently derogatory in any way).

But when has a conservative ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has ANYONE ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has anyone outside of this one incident ever used the phrase "shuck and jive"?
 
2012-10-25 02:04:09 PM  

Shostie: Diogenes: But, that's how the cracker crumbles.

As a European-American, I find that highly offensive.


which is why i now refer to myself as far-western-asian-american. Ther are no insults directed at FWAEs, so far as i know.

/Look at a map, europe is just a fat peninsula off the main continent.
 
2012-10-25 02:04:29 PM  

urbangirl: CPennypacker: Attention shiathead conservatives:

con·text
/ˈkɒntɛkst/ Show Spelled[kon-tekst] Show IPA
noun
1.
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
2.
the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
3.
Mycology . the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus in mushrooms.

wha?


I'm saying Christ Matthews is a mushroom cap.
 
2012-10-25 02:05:09 PM  
www.bamco.com

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-10-25 02:06:41 PM  

burndtdan: I've never heard the phrase "shuck and jive". In the given context, I'm not really clear what it means. I guess it sounds "racist" because "jive" is also a word that can have a racial context (though I don't know if it really is inherently derogatory in any way).

But when has a conservative ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has ANYONE ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has anyone outside of this one incident ever used the phrase "shuck and jive"?


You're not from the South are you.
 
2012-10-25 02:06:53 PM  
People and organizations that have been regularly shown to be racist and bigoted in the past, and more likely to be scrutinized over potentially racist and bigoted statements that people and organizations that don't have a history of racist and bigoted statements. Shocking, unless you have more than the mental capacity of a Republican.
 
2012-10-25 02:06:56 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Dog Welder: So when is Palin going to say anything about the outrage concerning Ann Coulter?

/rhetorical question -- it won't happen

I can't believe you! That's the kind of language that got her in this mess to begin with, rhetord.


omg so heh,
 
2012-10-25 02:08:05 PM  

burndtdan: I've never heard the phrase "shuck and jive". In the given context, I'm not really clear what it means. I guess it sounds "racist" because "jive" is also a word that can have a racial context (though I don't know if it really is inherently derogatory in any way).

But when has a conservative ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has ANYONE ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has anyone outside of this one incident ever used the phrase "shuck and jive"?


One of my NCOs.

/He was 6'5" and darker than the president.
//And he hated practicing for that change of command ceremony as much as I hated the incoming commander who demanded it.
 
kab
2012-10-25 02:11:07 PM  
Aaaaand you can tell that this election cycle has pretty much exhausted all talking points, since now we're bickering about how words are belittling depending on who says it.

And focusing on someone entirely irrelevant to current politics.
 
2012-10-25 02:13:14 PM  

ExpressPork: I think that he was maybe trying to make a different point, but I'm not obtuse enough to think that this statement is representative of the entire Republican party.


Part of the GOP platform is no abortion exceptions for the victims of rape.
 
2012-10-25 02:15:15 PM  
If conservatives spent just a little more of their time and energy trying to keep from saying or doing racist things rather than complaining about being called out for it they would be much happier in the end.
 
2012-10-25 02:16:00 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: ExpressPork: I think that he was maybe trying to make a different point, but I'm not obtuse enough to think that this statement is representative of the entire Republican party.

Part of the GOP platform is no abortion exceptions for the victims of rape.


This right here. I'd have more respect for everyone labeling themselves "independent" "libertarian" or "fiscal conservative" if they bothered to hold the religious whackos' feet to the fire.
 
2012-10-25 02:16:16 PM  

ExpressPork: demaL-demaL-yeH: the only people calling President Obama a messiah are sarcastic right-wing morans, and 'lefties' trolling or parodying right-wing morans.

You may not say it outright, but it's evident every day through the overall reactions to him that many on the left feel this way. It's like you're all afraid to criticize him and he can do no wrong. I don't even know where to begin as there is so much evidence of this.

Imagine if Banghazi had happened under Bush. Can you all take the blinders off for a second and just imagine the rage if Benghazi had happened under GW?

Dude. Really?
9/11 and the Iraq war happened under bush.
I can't believe you're really stupid enough to go there.

 
2012-10-25 02:17:48 PM  

burndtdan: I've never heard the phrase "shuck and jive". In the given context, I'm not really clear what it means. I guess it sounds "racist" because "jive" is also a word that can have a racial context (though I don't know if it really is inherently derogatory in any way).

But when has a conservative ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has ANYONE ever been called racist for saying "shuck and jive"? When has anyone outside of this one incident ever used the phrase "shuck and jive"?


Translation:

I'm not very well read or familiar with American history, therefore anyone using a implicitly racist phrase I've never heard of should be granted immunity. I also have a hard time understanding how language evolves and what a word means today might not be what it meant 150 years ago. Context is hard for people like me, because I have no cultural literacy, so I tend to simply hide behind simplistic analysis that only frames things in terms I'm familiar with and ignores the rest.

AKA "I'm just asking questions here."
 
2012-10-25 02:18:56 PM  

MagnesDrachen: I just don't understand what the right THINKS is going to happen when they seemingly fo out of their way to bring up old racist terms to describe something that a modern pejorotive could do just as well. Why the "re-nig" bumper sticker? Why the Curious George Obama shirt? The "tar baby" comment? It's like they're looking for racist things to say, that only occur in racist context, and then are surprised when someone actually calls them out on it. It's classless to say the least.


At this point I honestly think at least some of them do it so they can take the entirely predictable negative reaction and turn around and go on talk radio and their blogs and use it as "evidence" of just how victimized and downtrodden conservative white folk are by the media and minority groups.

It's all part of promulgating the "go out and be a culture warrior because you're under attack!" meme, and it's a tactic used by extremist groups and cults all over the world and throughout history.
 
2012-10-25 02:19:18 PM  

CPennypacker: urbangirl: CPennypacker: Attention shiathead conservatives:

con·text
/ˈkɒntɛkst/ Show Spelled[kon-tekst] Show IPA
noun
1.
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
2.
the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.
3.
Mycology . the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus in mushrooms.

wha?

I'm saying Christ Matthews is a mushroom cap.


Oh. Yeah. Well, everybody knows that.
 
2012-10-25 02:20:37 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: I've only heard the phrase a couple of times in my life, but never had anyone call "racism" because of it before....


The problem is that it's a dog whistle term in the Southern US.

It's like how the phrase "bless your heart" might sound innocuous to most English speakers but in the Southern United States it clearly means, "Go f*ck yourself".

In the South, "shuck and jive" means "black people being lazy and criminal".

Which is a *problem* when you're addressing a national audience.

/the Southern US: ruining it for the rest of us since 1789
 
2012-10-25 02:21:16 PM  
Using the term is not automatically racist.

One thing that totally confuses these people (yes, I did say "these people") is that context is necessary in understanding these things. Intent is key, although it doesn't always explain away use or reaction.

But those things require 1) having an ear for situation and dialogue, and 2) often knowing something of the culture and people involved.

Because they do not know black people or the culture and have absolutely no ear for the situation, they are completely confused about why, say, they don't get to spew around a term like "shucking and jiving" just wily-nily, and others do. They get upset because of freedom or something.

This is why we roll our eyes at them.
 
2012-10-25 02:21:22 PM  

partisan222: And he is reviled across the state of MA where the people really did try him out, hoping for something different and something workable. But they got a Republican instead.


We didn't even get a Republican... We got an Empty Suit, who ignored parts of the state (my neck of the woods, The South Coast, particularly) and spent most of his time gearing up to run for president.

He certainly wasn't the bipartisan executive who improved the state he's trying to portray himself as now, that's for sure...
 
2012-10-25 02:22:01 PM  

Prospero424: MagnesDrachen: I just don't understand what the right THINKS is going to happen when they seemingly fo out of their way to bring up old racist terms to describe something that a modern pejorotive could do just as well. Why the "re-nig" bumper sticker? Why the Curious George Obama shirt? The "tar baby" comment? It's like they're looking for racist things to say, that only occur in racist context, and then are surprised when someone actually calls them out on it. It's classless to say the least.

At this point I honestly think at least some of them do it so they can take the entirely predictable negative reaction and turn around and go on talk radio and their blogs and use it as "evidence" of just how victimized and downtrodden conservative white folk are by the media and minority groups.

It's all part of promulgating the "go out and be a culture warrior because you're under attack!" meme, and it's a tactic used by extremist groups and cults all over the world and throughout history.


Um well, yes, that is what they do. You can just stay pissed off, scared and outraged all the time without constant conditioning to feel that way. That's why these yahoos flock to this media in the first place. They want to be spoonfed bullsh*t and coddled, and feel like they're special, and the world is wrong and they are right. Hence why being a Rush fan is about two steps down from being an Art Bell fan.
 
2012-10-25 02:23:33 PM  
*Can't stay pissed off all the time, is what I intended to write.
 
2012-10-25 02:24:00 PM  

verbaltoxin: HotWingConspiracy: ExpressPork: I think that he was maybe trying to make a different point, but I'm not obtuse enough to think that this statement is representative of the entire Republican party.

Part of the GOP platform is no abortion exceptions for the victims of rape.

This right here. I'd have more respect for everyone labeling themselves "independent" "libertarian" or "fiscal conservative" if they bothered to hold the religious whackos' feet to the fire.


I promise the Dems are guilty of pandering to religion as well. Furthermore, none of you said a gd thing when this happened and it was completeley absent from the news.

I do wish that Republicans weren't so busy catering to religious whackos all the time. I will say that I do try to do my part. As I am in the music business most of my friends and colleagues are very Liberal, but I do have a few very conservative friends as well. When discussing politics I find that they agree that it would be positive for the right to divorce itself from religion more, sadly in the world we live in currently for either party to divorce itself from God or Jeebus would be political suicide and they both know it (see above link if you don't believe me).

I don't look down upon anyone with religious views but I certainly agree our country would be healthier if it stayed out of politics. In Indiana for years we couldn't buy beer on Sundays for chrissakes...I mean that's just farking wrong.
 
2012-10-25 02:26:26 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-25 02:27:02 PM  
Well that makes it okay then!
 
2012-10-25 02:28:47 PM  
I don't know what you're talkng about....

shucknjive.com
 
2012-10-25 02:31:45 PM  
The Wiki makes the dog whistle more notable:

Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is a southern American slang term for the behavior of joking and acting facetiously. More generally, the term can also refer to the speech and behavioral mechanisms adopted in the presence of an authoritative figure.[1] Shuckin' and jivin' usually involves clever lies and impromptu storytelling, used to one-up an opponent or avoid punishment. Shuckin' and Jivin': Folklore from Contemporary Black Americans (ISBN 0-253-20265-5) is the name of a book written by Daryl Cumber Dance in 1981. In 1972, the Johnny Lewis Quartet record a soul jazz LP called Shuckin' 'N Jivin' .[2] "Shuckin and Jivin" is also the title of a song by the Osmonds 1971[3]
The term is also used in the Southern United States referring to deceit or mischief involving lies


The bold is mine. This gets to the intent of the usage.
 
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