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(BBC)   "...and that's the latest from Snooki. Now we turn briefly to a boring report that Egypt has brokered a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. Isn't that nice? Up next: Why is President Obama hiding his kindergarten report cards?"   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-10-25 09:00:40 AM  
And as soon as Hamas gets enough rocket parts smuggled in through Egypt, they'll start firing more into Israel.
 
2012-10-25 09:01:26 AM  
NNNNOOOOOooooooo!!! How will Mittens spend trillions on a war NOW???? DAMN YOU FARTBAMA!
 
2012-10-25 09:02:29 AM  

give me doughnuts: And as soon as Hamas gets enough rocket parts smuggled in through Egypt, they'll start firing more into Israel.


What's the over/under on that?

I'm thinking 3 Months.
 
2012-10-25 09:06:51 AM  
This is Cease Fire number...what? 9.93x10^478?

over there, a cease fire is code for "we're running low on ordnance. Let's call a politically expedient time out while we restock and rearm."

Wake me up when they declare a peace treaty with an appropriate jointly rebuilt DMZ.
 
2012-10-25 09:09:05 AM  
Nice twist on an old headline idea, subby.
 
2012-10-25 09:09:35 AM  
Someone should let Hamas know about this deal...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/israel-kills-one-second-day-gaza-strikes-062 5 52365.html
 
2012-10-25 09:10:21 AM  
I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.
 
2012-10-25 09:10:47 AM  
D'oh!


Link
 
2012-10-25 09:10:48 AM  
These alleged cease fires usually last about a week. Right now I feel Snooki is more important than either of these two places.
 
2012-10-25 09:10:48 AM  
FTA: "Five Israelis have been wounded since Tuesday amid some of the heaviest barrage of rocket and mortar fire from Gaza in months."

Typical Hamas cease-fire. "Open fire! We are NOT firing rockets and mortars into Israel! If you say we are, then you are demonizing the innocent victimized Palestinian people! OPEN FIRE!"

/we come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill
//there's Klingons on the starbord bow, scrape 'em off, Jim!
 
2012-10-25 09:10:59 AM  

GooberMcFly: Nice twist on an old headline idea, subby.


Agreed.
 
2012-10-25 09:11:12 AM  
Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.
 
2012-10-25 09:14:02 AM  
Egypt brokered it? The muslim bro run country? That explains the 79 rockets fired at israel.

/islam is a death cult
 
2012-10-25 09:15:11 AM  
A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.
 
2012-10-25 09:15:47 AM  
Next up: Who's gay?
 
2012-10-25 09:16:06 AM  
That must be a trick question, I don't think there was kindergarten in Indonesia in the 1960's?
 
2012-10-25 09:16:22 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.


Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?
 
2012-10-25 09:19:08 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.


Gee, they seem in real danger here.

amid "some of the most intense rockets and mortar fire in months" there have been a grand total of 5 people wounded. Wow, that certainly sounds like the most advanced and well equipped military in the region needs assistance.

The Israeli's can certainly handle themselves in this regard as the have dozens of times in the past.

/you expect people to want to intervene for a nation who has fought off a conventional invasion from four opposing nations simultaneously WITHOUT direct assistance before now? Really?
//you guys keep talking about Israel like its such a weak and helpless friend beset by stronger enemies at all times and not the most capable military force in the entire region.
 
2012-10-25 09:19:32 AM  

Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?


Stop giving the savages money borrowed from china would be a good start.
 
2012-10-25 09:21:06 AM  
What's a Snooki? Is that like a Snork or a Smurf or something?
 
2012-10-25 09:22:04 AM  

Joe Blowme: The muslim bro run country?


I just had a terrifying mental image of what Muslim frat bros would look like
 
2012-10-25 09:23:33 AM  

sodomizer: A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.


What, pray tell, would you have the B52 hit? Its not like there is an installation, or permanent base these are coming from. You just going to have one loiter until a truck looks suspicious and then flatten half a square kilometer?

Jeeze, you would think there were nukes on these over-sized bottle rockets.

Actual, effective military solution:
Israel throws some drones up and prosecutes real-time retaliatory strikes on the launch vehicles/sites.
Difficulty: any civilians hit will bite you in the ass for twice whatever gains you make.
 
2012-10-25 09:24:01 AM  

The Southern Logic Company: Joe Blowme: The muslim bro run country?

I just had a terrifying mental image of what Muslim frat bros would look like


i.ytimg.com
 
2012-10-25 09:24:18 AM  
He's trying to keep it under wraps that his kindergarten teacher is a foreign national from a former US enemy

i706.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-25 09:25:34 AM  

NutWrench: What's a Snooki? Is that like a Snork or a Smurf or something?


It's a type of sperm collection device that ultimately kills the donor by injecting him with a biologic agent.
 
2012-10-25 09:25:41 AM  

Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?


There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.
 
2012-10-25 09:26:21 AM  

signaljammer: I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.


Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.

The plan to create Israel on land in the middle east was developed post WWII by NATO countries to help settle displaced Jews following the war, given the residual feelings about the Jews in Germany/Europe, and the understandable feelings following the Dismal Solution. I mean, would YOU want to stay in a country that had been waging a campaign to use your ethnic/religious group as guinea pigs/slave labor until they could eradicate you?

So, yes, Truman was a total Tool.
 
2012-10-25 09:28:37 AM  

Kit Fister: Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.


If the US didn't support Israel, we would still have problems with the Muslims. What country doesn't?
 
2012-10-25 09:30:45 AM  

signaljammer: I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.


It's odd that the US culturally prefers a high-performing, hardworking, general peaceful culture which exemplary financial and scientific accomplishments, who have built a 1st world country out of a pit of cheap sand bereft of national resources and surrounded on all sides by aggressors over a collection of violent, lazy, debauched nomads and camel jockeys, who have spent the last 1200 years trying to conquer Europe.

There's just no explaining that.
 
2012-10-25 09:31:28 AM  

sodomizer: A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.


Yeah, kill em all and let god sort it out strategy?
 
2012-10-25 09:31:48 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.


Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.
 
2012-10-25 09:32:10 AM  

uber humper: NutWrench: What's a Snooki? Is that like a Snork or a Smurf or something?

It's a type of sperm collection device that ultimately kills the donor by injecting him with a biologic agent.


Crafty!

+1
 
2012-10-25 09:32:43 AM  

uber humper: Kit Fister: Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.

If the US didn't support Israel, we would still have problems with the Muslims. What country doesn't?


Even if Israel hadn't been created in the '40s, we'd still have a problem with Dar al Islam.
 
2012-10-25 09:34:54 AM  

give me doughnuts: And as soon as Hamas gets enough rocket parts smuggled in through Egypt, they'll start firing more into Israel.


Look like Israel just blew up their rocket parts sugar daddy
 
2012-10-25 09:35:09 AM  
The ceasefire comes non-too-soon!

2.bp.blogspot.com

/that's gonna leave a stain.
 
2012-10-25 09:35:33 AM  
Because peace brokered between Israel and Hamas is always lasting.
 
2012-10-25 09:35:55 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.


You aren't answering my question and I am not the one who brought partisan politics into this debate. I'll ask again. What exactly do you expect him to do in defense of, as Wicked Chinchilla so aptly described them, the most advanced and well equipped military in the region?

I mean if you are being critical of the president's leadership tell us what he should have done instead of what he did do.
 
2012-10-25 09:36:40 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.


I'm your huckleberry....stop giving them money!
 
2012-10-25 09:38:25 AM  

Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

You aren't answering my question and I am not the one who brought partisan politics into this debate. I'll ask again. What exactly do you expect him to do in defense of, as Wicked Chinchilla so aptly described them, the most advanced and well equipped military in the region?

I mean if you are being critical of the president's leadership tell us what he should have done instead of what he did do.


CUT ALL FUNDING!!! why is that so hard to understand?
 
2012-10-25 09:38:52 AM  
Israel said a mortar shell landed in the south of the country on Thursday after no reports of exchanges fighting.

That's just sad. I hate it when exchanges fight.
 
2012-10-25 09:38:52 AM  
The only person that will bring peace will be the Anit-Christ. Oh, and he'll flip on the Jews three and a half years into it and so I guess there really is no such thing as permanant peace.
 
2012-10-25 09:39:54 AM  
And to prove my point, right from the article:
"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.
 
2012-10-25 09:40:52 AM  
This definitely trumps any issue regarding school records.
 
2012-10-25 09:41:43 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:
"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.


CUT OFF FUNDING!!!

/maybe he has me on ignore?
 
2012-10-25 09:48:18 AM  

Joe Blowme: Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:
"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

CUT OFF FUNDING!!!

/maybe he has me on ignore?


Nope, I don't have anyone on ignore actually.
And I agree with you that the level of funding we send there should be discussed. We have valuable technical development relationships with them (and other things) that are ongoing, but do we really need to provide as much aid as we do?
 
2012-10-25 09:49:28 AM  

give me doughnuts: uber humper: Kit Fister: Yes, because it was the USA that came up with and lead the whole return-Jerusalem-to-the-jews thing.

If the US didn't support Israel, we would still have problems with the Muslims. What country doesn't?

Even if Israel hadn't been created in the '40s, we'd still have a problem with Dar al Islam.


Oh, I agree. After the Christians and the Jews refused to help Mohammed drive the pagan Arabs out of Mecca and Medina and support his cause, he basically declared them infidels and thus started the generally standing hatred of the infidels.

Mix in a general population of uneducated people that are driven by religious fervor to follow the words of Mohammed, and you have a powder keg.
 
2012-10-25 09:50:50 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat.

It does because a Dem is the president therefore whatever he does will be perfect to you.

What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?
Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?
 
2012-10-25 09:52:22 AM  

Joe Blowme: Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:
"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

CUT OFF FUNDING!!!

/maybe he has me on ignore?


And let those evil Jews get what they deserve, right?

/I think you missed your time and place by a 70 years or so.
 
2012-10-25 09:54:55 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat.
It does because a Dem is the president therefore whatever he does will be perfect to you.

What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?
Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?


What do you think the joint weapons development does.
Also, the US doesn't provide aid to Hamas or Hamas controlled entities.
so..... next question?
 
2012-10-25 09:57:56 AM  
WOW. You guys are not at all worried that Osama is hiding pretty much everything about him.

I will bet he is PISSED that he cannot hide the last 4 years.
 
2012-10-25 10:03:48 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Gee, they seem in real danger here.

amid "some of the most intense rockets and mortar fire in months" there have been a grand total of 5 people wounded. Wow, that certainly sounds like the most advanced and well equipped military in the region needs assistance.

The Israeli's can certainly handle themselves in this regard as the have dozens of times in the past.


By launching "illegal" pre-emptive wars like the Six-Day War, deploying "illegal" weapons like cluster bombs and WP, and doing other things that make the UN, ICC, and Progressives shiat themselves with outrage.

/I favor letting the Israelis do whatever they must to protect themselves
//but people who feel that way are no longer in charge of anything, and won't be put back in charge of anything until it's way too late
 
2012-10-25 10:07:08 AM  
RELIGION OF PEACE
 
2012-10-25 10:07:37 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.


Except that these farkers who believe that "everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong" exist only in your head, so you're really only amusing/irritating yourself with your little fantasies. But it's good that you keep yourself busy.
 
2012-10-25 10:11:51 AM  
Israel gets a little over $3 billion a year from the US, and over 80% of that is in military aid. Most of that winds up back in the US as they use it to purchase American-made military equipment.

With a GDP of about $230 billion annually, and an annual government budget of over $60 billion. I really don't think the loss of our "help" would be much more than a small bump in Israel's road.

By comparison, the West Bank and Gaza have a combined GPD of over $12 billion, and they get about $400 million from the US.
 
2012-10-25 10:13:23 AM  

ciberido: Dixie_Wrecked: There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Except that these farkers who believe that "everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong" exist only in your head, so you're really only amusing/irritating yourself with your little fantasies. But it's good that you keep yourself busy.


I'd argue that. There seems to be a fair number of farkers who toe the Democrat party line with no exceptions.
 
2012-10-25 10:16:45 AM  

Dixie_Wrecked: Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?


Well lets see:

Well fed and religiously motivated terrorists launching sporadic rockets that rarely do any real damage.

OR

An entire horde of starving desperate refugees with a lot of violent and very well motivated insurgents mixed into their numbers swarming the border.

I'd say that the very small amount of funding tossed into Palestine might just be money well spent. I'm not an expert though and that's a highly speculative point but may be worth considering.
 
2012-10-25 10:17:21 AM  

Kit Fister: Mix in a general population of uneducated people that are driven by religious fervor to follow the words of MohammedFox Izvestia, and you have a powder keg.


FTFY
 
2012-10-25 10:20:09 AM  
Why is President Obama hiding his kindergarten report cards?"

'Cause he was caught numerous trying to redistribute the Legos?
 
2012-10-25 10:21:02 AM  
"numerous TIMES".....jeez, blew the punch line AGAIN...
 
2012-10-25 10:24:35 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Joe Blowme: Wicked Chinchilla: And to prove my point, right from the article:
"Six Palestinian militants were killed in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza."

They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.

I ask those of you again saying how the US should help: how WOULD you have us help in some form of effective manner? This needless sabre rattling and calls to thrust the US military into every teeny tiny little scrap the Israelis deal with on a day-to-day basis is ridiculous.

CUT OFF FUNDING!!!

/maybe he has me on ignore?

Nope, I don't have anyone on ignore actually.
And I agree with you that the level of funding we send there should be discussed. We have valuable technical development relationships with them (and other things) that are ongoing, but do we really need to provide as much aid as we do?


I think you misunderstand me, i'm talking about cutting off all funding to the death cult of islam, not Israel. Then give Israel all the ammo they want.
 
2012-10-25 10:26:28 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Wicked Chinchilla: Dixie_Wrecked: Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Fartbama says, "We stand with Israel". Yes. We stand with you with our nose in the air and watch but at least we are standing with you.

Assuming you aren't a troll, what do you think he should do exactly?

There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Answer this question.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat. What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?

This doesn't even approach the level of swatting flies. Its like shooing away gnats. Israel can handle that perfectly fine, and more ably, than the US can.

I would argue we already HAVE helped them in this regard considering our technological assistance in developing Iron Dome and other active protection and/or various detection systems.

It has nothing to do with Republican vs. Democrat.
It does because a Dem is the president therefore whatever he does will be perfect to you.

What avenue of action is available to the US that the Israeli's can't do at all, or can't do better given their experience, locality, and resources?
Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?

What do you think the joint weapons development does.
Also, the US doesn't provide aid to Hamas or Hamas controlled entities.
so..... next question?


Not so fast.... Link
 
2012-10-25 10:27:21 AM  

Egoy3k: Dixie_Wrecked: Cut their funding. You guys are saying cut Israel's funding but I say cut the other assholes' funding. Why would you fund 2 groups who hate each other? To act like you are trying to get a long with both? Or how about so they can keep fighting each other, give Israel our new technology to test out on brown people so the US doesn't look like the bad guy?

Well lets see:

Well fed and religiously motivated terrorists launching sporadic rockets that rarely do any real damage.

OR

An entire horde of starving desperate refugees with a lot of violent and very well motivated insurgents mixed into their numbers swarming the border.

I'd say that the very small amount of funding tossed into Palestine might just be money well spent. I'm not an expert though and that's a highly speculative point but may be worth considering.


It would be a target rich environment
 
2012-10-25 10:28:12 AM  

This text is now purple: It's odd that the US culturally prefers a high-performing, hardworking, general peaceful culture which exemplary financial and scientific accomplishments, who have built a 1st world country out of a pit of cheap sand bereft of national resources and surrounded on all sides by aggressors over a collection of violent, lazy, debauched nomads and camel jockeys, who have spent the last 1200 years trying to conquer Europe.


Israel is an impressive little country and despite a few hiccups, namely the spy debacles starting with Pollard and the USS Liberty, has been a strong ally in the middle east.

We share with them parts of our religious heritage and history.

It is also a safe place for Jews so that we do not have another Holocaust, one of humanity's least memorable moments.

However, Israel is threatened by the Palestinian presence. Diversity is a tough thing to make work, and no one has done it yet. In Israel, the diversity issue manifests itself as rocket grenades being fired into civilian areas of Israel with the intent to kill, maim and terrorize the population.

Perhaps it's time to stop with the diversity experiment in Israel and just declare it a Jewish state for Jewish people only. Palestinians can relocate to Florida or Texas. And finally, there will be peace in the middle east.

Until Iran gets Scuds, I guess.
 
2012-10-25 10:29:48 AM  

give me doughnuts: And as soon as Hamas gets enough rocket parts smuggled in through Egypt, they'll start firing more into Israel.


Well, if Israel would stop attacking Palestine...
 
2012-10-25 10:29:51 AM  

sodomizer: Until Iran gets Scuds, I guess.


Iran has scuds, scuds cannot even hit Israel, Saddam had to put a scud on a scud to hit Israel

Link
 
2012-10-25 10:30:04 AM  
Nice...good job. Should last about 15 minutes before the Islamic fundies hear about it..then they will open fire again, and start shiat all over again. Nice try though.
 
2012-10-25 10:30:24 AM  

sodomizer: A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.


Not if there are survivors.
 
2012-10-25 10:31:17 AM  

sodomizer: Perhaps it's time to stop with the diversity experiment in Israel and just declare it a Jewish state for Jewish people only.


It's the Muslims outside of Israel that are the problem. The one's inside Israel have it pretty good.

On average, they have higher education, long life expectancy, and higher income than almost anywhere in the Muslim world.
 
2012-10-25 10:43:27 AM  

Wicked Chinchilla: They had 70+ rockets fired at them plus some mortars over the course of a day resulting in 5 wounded. Real effective weapons there.

During that same time frame they have already retaliated and drawn blood.


5 wounded because Israel has sophisticated alarm systems, bomb shelters under every house in cities around Gaza and the civilians there are trained to run for cover in 20 seconds when the alarms sound. It's not as if the palestinians are not trying, they try very very hard to murder as many israeli civilians as possible. There should have been zero wounded, probably kids or elderly who didn't run fast enough to the bomb shelter when the alarms started.

During that time frame Israel should have dropped 70 random mortar shells on palestinian civilians by your logic if you want to be accurate. Instead they did a surgical attack specifically against Hamas terrorists en route to fire more shells at Israel.
 
2012-10-25 10:45:55 AM  

TappingTheVein: 5 wounded because Israel has sophisticated alarm systems, bomb shelters under every house in cities around Gaza and the civilians there are trained to run for cover in 20 seconds when the alarms sound. It's not as if the palestinians are not trying, they try very very hard to murder as many israeli civilians as possible. There should have been zero wounded, probably kids or elderly who didn't run fast enough to the bomb shelter when the alarms started.


most of the wounded were Thai Kibbutz workers, chances are they didn't know the process or were not near any cover
 
2012-10-25 10:47:25 AM  

signaljammer: I wonder if this Zionist contagion of the USA will ever end. It doesn't seem to have any precedent historically. Truman was a tool.


But not a circumsized tool, amirite?

/trying to meld all the derp into one epic thread.
 
2012-10-25 10:48:03 AM  

zedster: most of the wounded were Thai Kibbutz workers, chances are they didn't know the process or were not near any cover


Makes sense.
 
2012-10-25 10:53:15 AM  
Nuke 'em from orbit.

Its the only way to be sure.
 
2012-10-25 10:53:58 AM  

sodomizer: A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.


I am with you, but we can use the B-2's now we don't have to use the B-52's. It is never going to happen though, because all the libtards would be crying about killing civilians as they drink their rainbow kool aid and snort unicorn farts. Makes one wonder where they were when World War II was taking place and we were bombing cities into dust.
 
2012-10-25 10:59:12 AM  

Profedius: sodomizer: A couple B-52 strikes could cure Hamas of this nasty habit of launching rocket grenades at civilians.

Eye for an eye doesn't make the world blind. It cures the world of dangerous idiots.

I am with you, but we can use the B-2's now we don't have to use the B-52's. It is never going to happen though, because all the libtards would be crying about killing civilians as they drink their rainbow kool aid and snort unicorn farts. Makes one wonder where they were when World War II was taking place and we were bombing cities into dust.


And stomping the shiat out of dangerous ideologies like the nazis in germany and japan, they way we should be stomping out islam which is just as bad if not worse than nazis'. Yet we tolerate them openly saying they want to kill us all and rule the world. Sad.
 
2012-10-25 11:24:26 AM  

uber humper: ciberido: Dixie_Wrecked: There are reasons to protect Israel. I find it funny/irritating that most farkers can't have an objective view about politics. Everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong.

Except that these farkers who believe that "everything Obama does is 100% perfect and everything any Rep does is 100% wrong" exist only in your head, so you're really only amusing/irritating yourself with your little fantasies. But it's good that you keep yourself busy.

I'd argue that. There seems to be a fair number of farkers who toe the Democrat party line with no exceptions.


Name one who "toes the Democrat party line with no exception."
 
2012-10-25 11:26:37 AM  

uber humper: sodomizer: Perhaps it's time to stop with the diversity experiment in Israel and just declare it a Jewish state for Jewish people only.

It's the Muslims outside of Israel that are the problem. The one's inside Israel have it pretty good.

On average, they have higher education, long life expectancy, and higher income than almost anywhere in the Muslim world.


I don't think that a purely racial or ethnic or religious state should be in existence in the 21st century. In the long run, it doesn't work. Communication is instant and worldwide. Diversity is the new norm. Trying to funnel power into an exclusive group will fail. All governments should be completely secular and serve all the people in the nation and represent and give voice to all of those people. This applies in the rest of the world as well. The islamists will be no more successful in doing it with an Islamic state. Not in the long term.
 
2012-10-25 11:30:02 AM  

Profedius: libtards...Makes one wonder where they were when World War II was taking place and we were bombing cities into dust.


wegotabadassoverhere.jpg
 
2012-10-25 11:31:36 AM  

advex101: uber humper: sodomizer: Perhaps it's time to stop with the diversity experiment in Israel and just declare it a Jewish state for Jewish people only.

It's the Muslims outside of Israel that are the problem. The one's inside Israel have it pretty good.

On average, they have higher education, long life expectancy, and higher income than almost anywhere in the Muslim world.

I don't think that a purely racial or ethnic or religious state should be in existence in the 21st century. In the long run, it doesn't work. Communication is instant and worldwide. Diversity is the new norm. Trying to funnel power into an exclusive group will fail. All governments should be completely secular and serve all the people in the nation and represent and give voice to all of those people. This applies in the rest of the world as well. The islamists will be no more successful in doing it with an Islamic state. Not in the long term.


I do not disagree.

Unfortunately, it looks like the number of Islamic states is growing. One was just born the other day, with the Muslim autonomous region in the Philippians.
 
2012-10-25 11:36:44 AM  

Kit Fister: This is Cease Fire number...what? 9.93x10^478?

over there, a cease fire is code for "we're running low on ordnance. Let's call a politically expedient time out while we restock and rearm."

Wake me up when they declare a peace treaty with an appropriate jointly rebuilt DMZ.


Or it means Israel has torn up their command structure enough that they need to reorganize. In this case, though, it's certainly about ordinance.
 
2012-10-25 12:03:16 PM  
I like how there's no mention of the visit by the Qatari emir the other day and apparently Israeli provocations before and during. Nope, Hamas just decided to give Israel an excuse to kick their ass out of boredom.
 
2012-10-25 12:05:23 PM  
Also:
"Look, even the Arabs have abandoned the Palestinians!"
"But the Emir of Qatar is visiting."
"How dare he support those terrorists!"
 
2012-10-25 12:07:56 PM  

Kit Fister: This is Cease Fire number...what? 9.93x10^478?

over there, a cease fire is code for "we're running low on ordnance. Let's call a politically expedient time out while we restock and rearm."

Wake me up when they declare a peace treaty with an appropriate jointly rebuilt DMZ.


Bazinga
 
2012-10-25 12:26:51 PM  

RanDomino: I like how there's no mention of the visit by the Qatari emir the other day and apparently Israeli provocations before and during. Nope, Hamas just decided to give Israel an excuse to kick their ass out of boredom.


Oppressed people forced to live in ghettos and subject to apartheid-like restrictions don't like it? The hell you say!
 
2012-10-25 12:28:33 PM  

RanDomino: I like how there's no mention of the visit by the Qatari emir the other day and apparently Israeli provocations before and during. Nope, Hamas just decided to give Israel an excuse to kick their ass out of boredom a demonstration for the Qatari emir that they will never stop attacking Israel.


FTFY

/Hamas claims Nir Am is Gaza territory, and the IDF military patrol protecting it was a clear provocation
//as usual, they are lying... Israel's continued existence is all the provocation they need, as the rocket attacks last week demonstrated, and the week before, and the week before, etc.
 
2012-10-25 12:36:20 PM  

RanDomino: I like how there's no mention of the visit by the Qatari emir the other day and apparently Israeli provocations before and during. Nope, Hamas just decided to give Israel an excuse to kick their ass out of boredom.


Right, Israeli provocations. The fact that the palestinian attacks started 2 weeks before (6 rockets on October 9, at least 7 rockets on October 17, 80 yesterday) the visit or Israel's "provocations" (responding to terrorists bombing civilians) suggests that Hamas gave their arab sponsor a good demonstration on how his money is put to good use and you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.
 
2012-10-25 02:16:51 PM  
TappingTheVein
Right, Israeli provocations. The fact that the palestinian attacks started 2 weeks before (6 rockets on October 9, at least 7 rockets on October 17, 80 yesterday) the visit or Israel's "provocations" (responding to terrorists bombing civilians) suggests that Hamas gave their arab sponsor a good demonstration on how his money is put to good use and you have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

[[citations needed]]
From what I can tell this latest round started on Sunday with an IDF incursion into northern Gaza.
 
2012-10-25 03:47:30 PM  

RanDomino: [[citations needed]]
From what I can tell this latest round started on Sunday with an IDF incursion into northern Gaza.


Of course citations are needed, like i said, you have no clue.

Oh and the palestinians broke the cease fire (shocking i know) today.
 
2012-10-25 04:22:58 PM  
Hamas ran out of rockets for the day.
 
2012-10-25 05:37:46 PM  
this was an allusion to an Israeli air strike the previous day

Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants to Palestinians. Palestinians are not allowed to retaliate. Should they retaliate, Israel will retaliate against their retaliation (in self-defense).

The attacks followed a threat against Israel by Sinai-based Salafist group Ansar Bayt al-Maqdes. Israel responded with an air strike on a base of Hamas

Classy. Is that like invading Iraq because of Saudi terrorists based in Afghanistan?
 
2012-10-25 06:05:03 PM  

RanDomino: Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants to Palestinians. Palestinians are not allowed to retaliate.


Palestinians attack Israel because it exists, they do not 'retaliate'. Hamas even has it in writing in their charter for the challenged individuals or if you are really deficient they can spell it out for you, all their top leadership.
The PLO are more subtle, they have this.

RanDomino: Classy. Is that like invading Iraq because of Saudi terrorists based in Afghanistan?


Israel responded to Hamas attacks as stated very clearly, what a pathetic attempt at selective editing. Are you that desperate ?

Which part of 'Hamas being a jihadist terrorist organization who as a stated goal repeatedly attack Israel non a regular basis' is too difficult for you to grasp ?
And you missed the more than 50 rocket attacks on israeli cities on October 8 as a gift for a jewish holiday.
 
2012-10-25 10:15:45 PM  
I didn't see anything about Egypt in the linked article.
 
2012-10-25 10:35:51 PM  
TappingTheVein
Which part of 'Hamas being a jihadist terrorist organization who as a stated goal repeatedly attack Israel non a regular basis' is too difficult for you to grasp ?

Makes perfect sense. You'll have no objections to Palestinian rocket attacks if their stated purpose is to kill Israeli members of any group which has a stated goal of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and Israeli annexation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, yes?
 
2012-10-26 04:10:41 AM  

morg: Egypt


Came here to say this.

/I r confused
 
2012-10-26 06:04:51 AM  

RanDomino: Makes perfect sense. You'll have no objections to Palestinian rocket attacks if their stated purpose is to kill Israeli members of any group which has a stated goal of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and Israeli annexation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, yes?


Ah so you acknowledge the fact that you had no farking clue what the hell you were talking about thus far. Good.
Since there is no Israeli stated goal of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians whatsoever and since Israeli annexation of the West Bank (as evident by every peace agreement offer) or Gaza (i don't think there can be an bigger evidence than farking handing it to the Palestinians) is only in your extremely clueless biased mind, you only strengthen the fact (as evident by your last two post) that you have no farking clue what the hell you're talking about.

If you are making a (pathetic) attempt to refer to insane settlers i would point out that they are not officially running Israel contrary to the fact that the PLO and Hamas rule the Palestinians and they had no saying whatsoever in the matter as evident by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza.

Seriously, maybe you should check out the entertainment tab or something, with each post you only prove the fact that you have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
 
2012-10-26 09:34:19 AM  
TappingTheVein
If you are making a (pathetic) attempt to refer to insane settlers i would point out that they are not officially running Israel

Nope, just setting the policy, defended by the Israeli government, funded by subsidies, protected by the IDF... but not "officially" running Israel.
 
2012-10-26 10:07:13 AM  

RanDomino: Nope, just setting the policy, defended by the Israeli government, funded by subsidies, protected by the IDF... but not "officially" running Israel.


It's not setting the policy, there is no ethnic cleansing or stated goal of it, there is no stated goal of annexing Gaza or the West Bank, you're making shiat up or is it wishful thinking based on whatever lies you choose to believe ? i honestly don't know. Read my previous post again.

Not only are you clueless, biased and ignorant you also don't pay attention.
 
2012-10-26 10:19:31 AM  
Oh and to clarify since you seem to be having some difficulty with understanding basic facts: the settlers do not run Israel, in any capacity whatsoever. I was trying to make you understand the vast difference between them and the ones who actually, really, in all aspects and purposes, control the palestinians.

I know this is hard for you to understand. You don't seem to like facts that shatter you ignorant retarded worldview when Israel is concerned.
 
2012-10-26 04:53:41 PM  
TappingTheVein
It's not setting the policy, there is no ethnic cleansing or stated goal of it, there is no stated goal of annexing Gaza or the West Bank,

Ah so you can do whatever you want, as long as you don't SAY what you're doing. Or even if you do, as long as the people who are backing you up with funding and military support don't SAY what they're doing.

the ones who actually, really, in all aspects and purposes, control the palestinians.

Which is, of course, why there were exactly zero security incidents during the Qatari Emir's vist.
 
2012-10-26 05:32:52 PM  

RanDomino: Ah so you can do whatever you want, as long as you don't SAY what you're doing. Or even if you do, as long as the people who are backing you up with funding and military support don't SAY what they're doing.


I don't think i can make this any clearer: the settlers do not run Israel, in any capacity whatsoever. There is no ethnic cleansing or stated goal of it, there is no stated goal of annexing Gaza or the West Bank as evident by the facts of Israel withdrawal from Gaza and peace agreement offers handing over almost the entire West Bank for a future palestinian state.

RanDomino: Which is, of course, why there were exactly zero security incidents during the Qatari Emir's vist


Eh ? what the hell are you talking about ? Israel having the audacity to kill Hamas terrorists preparing to fire rockets ? how dare they! during one of the biggest terrorism sponsor in the region having a visit!
 
2012-10-26 06:12:11 PM  
TappingTheVein
peace agreement offers handing over almost the entire West Bank for a future palestinian state.

"Facts on the ground"
 
2012-10-26 06:20:28 PM  

RanDomino: "Facts on the ground"


Yes it was a fact that Israel offered 92% of the West Bank (the rest in land swaps) which just proves that your latest claims are total bullshiat as well. The palestinians refused, as the saying goes: The arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

So how did you feel watching the palestinian leadership shatter your little delusional bubble ? and realizing that you were completely wrong about your latest canard about Israel ? i'll just add it to the list.
 
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