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2012-10-25 11:52:36 AM  

Lunaville: Sgt Otter: We had a few guys get the boot after a divorce, and the ex-wife didn't want custody

Wow, that possibility never occurred to me. I wonder how many of these women were secretly still in love with their husbands and crazy determined to remove them from a potentially deadly situation?


Most of them married way too early, and felt that they had been "cheated" out of their 20s. Being a mom robbed them of the joys of getting wasted at 10am and blowing random dudes every night.
 
2012-10-25 11:53:44 AM  

pciszek: jeffowl: So, she's a good Catholic when it comes to dealing with pregnancy, but not when it came to getting pregnant in the first place.

This never made sense to me--if you are willing to commit the sin of fornication, why not commit the sin of birth control at the same time so as to not have to worry about the possibility of the sin of abortion later?


The way they rationalize it is they tell themselves that using birth control is planning to have sex. This sex was unplanned, just heavy petting that went too far by accident.

/in their minds, anyway.
 
2012-10-25 12:07:05 PM  

ZombiesYall: hy is it so hard not to get pregnant?


Because of the way it feels when the penis goes into the vagina.

/Duh
 
2012-10-25 12:10:12 PM  
Unless the job requires a penis or a vagina to do the work I could care less who's got which plumbing.

What I do care about is respecting the damn job.

Fark her. Throw her overboard pronto and salt the ground where she walked.
 
2012-10-25 12:17:47 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Unless the job requires a penis or a vagina to do the work I could care less who's got which plumbing.

What I do care about is respecting the damn job.

Fark her. Throw her overboard pronto and salt the ground where she walked.


Calm down Beavis. She knocked boots while either failing to use birth control or experiencing a birth control failure resulting in the birth of a baby. She didn't piss on her commanding officer and wipe with the American flag. Salting the earth will not be necessary.
 
2012-10-25 12:18:03 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Let the woman hate shine out in this thread, farkers.
Let the authoritarian followers howl at the moon.


images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-10-25 12:36:47 PM  
You get no tears from me. Let us list your mistakes here
1. Broke your contract
2. I am assuming didn't use birth control
3. Failed to report your condition which is deception
4. Enlisted under false conditions
5. Failed to get married, abort or place for adoption which would have eliminated the problem

I am all for the rights of women, but you don't get to cry equal rights for me after you break the law she is lucky she was just discharged and not court marshaled.

Also nice toss in of Paul Ryan CNN nice to see your bias towards Republicans could enter into the story somewhere. I think we all know why this is big news right now and we are meant to feel sorry for a law breaking, liar and a cheater.
 
2012-10-25 12:36:49 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: The USSA ranks lowest in the developed world for maternity leave.


Good we already shell out enough welfare dollars to people who have kids they cannot afford, despite free condoms at the local clinic. No reason to increase the burden on the tax payers with the financial costs of those who decide to commit parenthood.

If you can't feed them don't breed them.
 
2012-10-25 12:53:58 PM  

Profedius: You get no tears from me. Let us list your mistakes here
1. Broke your contract
2. I am assuming didn't use birth control -- Or the condom blew out.
3. Failed to report your condition which is deception
4. Enlisted under false conditions
5. Failed to get married, abort or place for adoption which would have eliminated the problem

I am all for the rights of women, but you don't get to cry equal rights for me after you break the law she is lucky she was just discharged and not court marshaled.

Also nice toss in of Paul Ryan CNN nice to see your bias towards Republicans could enter into the story somewhere. I think we all know why this is big news right now and we are meant to feel sorry for a law breaking, liar and a cheater.


Are you sure you're not upset that somebody got laid?
 
2012-10-25 12:55:39 PM  

hasty ambush: HotIgneous Intruder: The USSA ranks lowest in the developed world for maternity leave.

Good we already shell out enough welfare dollars to people who have kids they cannot afford, despite free condoms at the local clinic. No reason to increase the burden on the tax payers with the financial costs of those who decide to commit parenthood.

If you can't feed them don't breed them.


Are you sure you know what maternity leave is?
Are you, like Profedius, also upset that someone got laid?
 
2012-10-25 01:06:03 PM  
If she were truly a practicing Catholic, she would have abstained from pre-marital sex to begin with. When will people learn that you can not break God's laws, you can only break yourself against God's laws.
 
2012-10-25 01:14:27 PM  

Lunaville: Profedius: You get no tears from me. Let us list your mistakes here
1. Broke your contract
2. I am assuming didn't use birth control -- Or the condom blew out.
3. Failed to report your condition which is deception
4. Enlisted under false conditions
5. Failed to get married, abort or place for adoption which would have eliminated the problem

I am all for the rights of women, but you don't get to cry equal rights for me after you break the law she is lucky she was just discharged and not court marshaled.

Also nice toss in of Paul Ryan CNN nice to see your bias towards Republicans could enter into the story somewhere. I think we all know why this is big news right now and we are meant to feel sorry for a law breaking, liar and a cheater.

Are you sure you're not upset that somebody got laid?


I am a decorated foreign war veteran, I had sex with my girlfriend last night and she woke me with oral sex this morning (We just started our relationship a few months ago) so I am pretty sure her getting laid has little to do with it.
 
2012-10-25 01:23:26 PM  
There really is no story here. She and her family need to make a decision about what is more important; her career or raising her child.
 
2012-10-25 01:49:10 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: She knew she would be on the hook if she screwed up, but she didn't expect that the Air Force would do something so idiotic as toss her for fulfilling her biological purpose.

/Authoritarian girl-haters are cretins. Get off my planet.


A woman's purpose in life is to reproduce? You hate women far more than the people you're criticizing.

/you - off my planet
//is a female who will not fulfill her "biological purpose"
 
2012-10-25 01:56:17 PM  

Crackers Are a Family Food: HotIgneous Intruder: She knew she would be on the hook if she screwed up, but she didn't expect that the Air Force would do something so idiotic as toss her for fulfilling her biological purpose.

/Authoritarian girl-haters are cretins. Get off my planet.

A woman's purpose in life is to reproduce? You hate women far more than the people you're criticizing.

/you - off my planet
//is a female who will not fulfill her "biological purpose"


As ever on fark, you have nearly perfectly misunderstood my post so that it means what you want it to mean and you can unsheath your sword of indignation.
Simplest possible terms, right?
Listen toots, it is every biological organism's imperative to reproduce. Women are the only humans who can catch the spermeeze and spark up a new human. Some women chose to do this, some do not. The ones who do chose to breed do not require vilification or your approval.
I think nobody should be discriminated against either way.

/You're either bitter that you will never breed or you're really resentful of those who have, do and did. Perhaps there are theraputic solutions to your issue.
 
2012-10-25 01:59:13 PM  

loaba: There really is no story here. She and her family need to make a decision about what is more important; her career or raising her child.


It's not an either or problem at all.
She'll have Baby Foetus and a nice nursing career, paid for by our Uncle Sugar.
Ta-Da!
 
2012-10-25 02:14:58 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: loaba: There really is no story here. She and her family need to make a decision about what is more important; her career or raising her child.

It's not an either or problem at all.
She'll have Baby Foetus and a nice nursing career, paid for by our Uncle Sugar.
Ta-Da!


I don't think you quite understand how the military works. They're not gonna change the rules just 'cause she's playing the family card on CNN. I expect the best they'll do is take her back after she signs the kid over to someone else. Barring that, she's gonna be working and paying off her loan just like anyone else.
 
2012-10-25 02:15:43 PM  
In fact, it's likely that Lieutenant Foetus took her page straight from the republican play book: socialize the liability, privatize the profits.

Socialized: The cost of a bachelor's degree in nursing.
Privatized: The career rewards of a bachelor's degree in nursing.

Mitt would love her.
 
2012-10-25 02:20:01 PM  

Profedius: Lunaville: Profedius: You get no tears from me. Let us list your mistakes here
1. Broke your contract
2. I am assuming didn't use birth control -- Or the condom blew out.
3. Failed to report your condition which is deception
4. Enlisted under false conditions
5. Failed to get married, abort or place for adoption which would have eliminated the problem

I am all for the rights of women, but you don't get to cry equal rights for me after you break the law she is lucky she was just discharged and not court marshaled.

Also nice toss in of Paul Ryan CNN nice to see your bias towards Republicans could enter into the story somewhere. I think we all know why this is big news right now and we are meant to feel sorry for a law breaking, liar and a cheater.

Are you sure you're not upset that somebody got laid?

I am a decorated foreign war veteran, I had sex with my girlfriend last night and she woke me with oral sex this morning (We just started our relationship a few months ago) so I am pretty sure her getting laid has little to do with it.


Sir, you have to take a look at these readings! Something must be wrong, ITG outputs are off the charts!

This is you, isn't it?
 
2012-10-25 02:39:03 PM  

loaba: HotIgneous Intruder: loaba: There really is no story here. She and her family need to make a decision about what is more important; her career or raising her child.

It's not an either or problem at all.
She'll have Baby Foetus and a nice nursing career, paid for by our Uncle Sugar.
Ta-Da!

I don't think you quite understand how the military works. They're not gonna change the rules just 'cause she's playing the family card on CNN. I expect the best they'll do is take her back after she signs the kid over to someone else. Barring that, she's gonna be working and paying off her loan just like anyone else.


I understand how the military works with a completeness that would explode your brains.
What you're not getting is that Former Lieutenant Foetus will be able to have a nice lucrative career no matter what happens. She can lawyer up against the babby daddy and get some monthly bucks there while she builds a career in nursing. She won't be hurt much by this stupidity directed at her. They can't repossess her education.
Fark the military; they're idiot authoritarian followers.
 
2012-10-25 02:42:08 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Crackers Are a Family Food: HotIgneous Intruder: She knew she would be on the hook if she screwed up, but she didn't expect that the Air Force would do something so idiotic as toss her for fulfilling her biological purpose.

/Authoritarian girl-haters are cretins. Get off my planet.

A woman's purpose in life is to reproduce? You hate women far more than the people you're criticizing.

/you - off my planet
//is a female who will not fulfill her "biological purpose"

As ever on fark, you have nearly perfectly misunderstood my post so that it means what you want it to mean and you can unsheath your sword of indignation.
Simplest possible terms, right?

Listen toots, it is every biological organism's imperative to reproduce. Women are the only humans who can catch the spermeeze and spark up a new human. Some women chose to do this, some do not.
I think nobody should be discriminated against either way.

/You're either bitter that you will never breed or you're really resentful of those who have, do and did. Perhaps there are theraputic solutions to your issue.


Figured you would backpedal on your misogynist statement. And add to it. Whether or not you want to admit it, not even woman worships babies. Some of us don't like them. But hey, we should still reproduce, right?

/you hate women who choose not to have kids - perhaps there are therapeutic solutions to your issue
 
2012-10-25 03:44:06 PM  
In the Navy we had storage for personal belongings and fenced areas for your cars to use while on deployment.

Why can't the Airforce just give her a storage locker to stick the baby in while she goes off to war? I really don't get this whole discrimination against single parents.
 
2012-10-25 04:00:46 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: They are allowed to cut your contract if they feel you lied about something. If this causes a negative mark that could follow her in life, she may win a case to remove that but the military is usually very quick about getting rid of women who are single and get pregnant. We had one get pregnant in Kosovo and they at least gave her the option and she chose to leave.


This seems to vary from branch to branch. I have a cousin in the Army who is a single mother with two kids who has had three deployments to Afghanistan. From my minimal exposure, it appears the Marine Corps and the Air Force have some really bizarre rules that fark over 1% of their members. The Army and the Navy don't seem to be such hardliners on these cases IMO.

/USAF taping policy is downright unscientific and dangerously unhealthy
 
2012-10-25 04:21:41 PM  

Bender The Offender: Oblio13: Spent 21 years in the Marines. A huge percentage of our woman Marines used to get pregnant either right before or during deployments. So a unit trains together like it should, then rotates overseas with brand new replacements to fill the holes. Now that I'm out I can say it: very, very few women pull their weight in the military.

My mom spent 24 years in the military, retired as a sgt. maj. She deployed around the world. She was an outstanding soldier and she joined as a single mother. I deplored to saudi and kosovo with female soldiers and pilots. Not one of them had their tours shortened for pregnancy. We did lose a few men to "stress" though. Just because youre a misogynistic douche doesn't mean reality reflects your "he man woman hater's club" mentality.

As far as the article goes, this woman is dishonest. She attempted to defraud the american people and manipulate the air force, now that she is being revealed for the morally bankrupt person she is, she is attempting to manipulate public opinion by turning a "you dishonestly violated a contract" situation into a "ZOMG the government wants to force me to have ABORTIONS". She has no honor, I hope she does jail time.


I don't know where, when, or how long you served, but the notion that female soldiers/marines/airmen/etc. pull weight equal to men is simply ridiculous. Start with the physical fitness tests and proceed from there. There are plenty of capable individuals, but the vast majority do not perform nearly the amount of work their male counterparts complete.
 
2012-10-25 04:34:56 PM  
She waited until she was 6 months pregnant before telling them? Sounds like she made the choice to leave the Air Force.
 
2012-10-25 05:30:25 PM  

daveUSMC: Profedius: Lunaville: Profedius: You get no tears from me. Let us list your mistakes here
1. Broke your contract
2. I am assuming didn't use birth control -- Or the condom blew out.
3. Failed to report your condition which is deception
4. Enlisted under false conditions
5. Failed to get married, abort or place for adoption which would have eliminated the problem

I am all for the rights of women, but you don't get to cry equal rights for me after you break the law she is lucky she was just discharged and not court marshaled.

Also nice toss in of Paul Ryan CNN nice to see your bias towards Republicans could enter into the story somewhere. I think we all know why this is big news right now and we are meant to feel sorry for a law breaking, liar and a cheater.

Are you sure you're not upset that somebody got laid?

I am a decorated foreign war veteran, I had sex with my girlfriend last night and she woke me with oral sex this morning (We just started our relationship a few months ago) so I am pretty sure her getting laid has little to do with it.

Sir, you have to take a look at these readings! Something must be wrong, ITG outputs are off the charts!

This is you, isn't it?


Roflmao You sir owe me a keyboard.

I drive a Mazda MX 5 with no bumper stickers though in the state of Louisiana you can get a license plate that states your branch and if you are a war vet or just a vet and I do have one of those. My thinking was that it might save me from some traffic tickets as a lot of the officers around here are ex service members. I won't get into penis size, but it is above average in both length and girth. My Boobies had nothing to do with manliness or being sexist it was about trying to get away with something you know is wrong and then complaining when you are discovered and punished. I also did point out that CNN loves the democrats so much that they can do no wrong, but those evil Republicans are preventing this young woman from serving by not stepping even though she broke the law and deserves her punishment.
 
2012-10-25 06:19:18 PM  
A pack of condoms cost less than an illegitimate child. If you're too stupid to realize this, you have no place protecting our country. Tired of sluts farking up then crying when things don't go their way. Shut the fark up and keep it in your farking pants without a condom. You're a stupid teenager for getting pregnant if you didn't want to be. So shove it up your whining ass. Deal with your MISTAKES and quietly accept any negative consequences that come up due to your MISTAKES. Don't make it into news, you farked up, deal with it quietly and take it, OR stop being sluts (male or female) and doing stupid shiat, then blaming everyone but yourself. No sympathy for single moms who chose assholes to fark instead of being responsible.
 
2012-10-25 07:05:05 PM  

rushthatspeaks: A pack of condoms cost less than an illegitimate child. If you're too stupid to realize this, you have no place protecting our country.


Imagine, if you will, a scenario where the former lieutenant's partner's male appendage was larger than you could imagine, vis-a-vis your personal sexual experience, and they double bagged it and the rubbers just blew up, broke, gave up the ghost? You need to have experience with such things to imagine this happening, so I'd imagine such an event is outside the reasonable ken of this cohort of knowledge.
Large cawks, applied vigorously and for a time to certain appropriate receptacles, destroy condoms.
 
2012-10-25 07:09:08 PM  

NiceBeaver: As far as the article goes, this woman is dishonest. She attempted to defraud the american people and manipulate the air force, now that she is being revealed for the morally bankrupt person she is, she is attempting to manipulate public opinion by turning a "you dishonestly violated a contract" situation into a "ZOMG the government wants to force me to have ABORTIONS". She has no honor, I hope she does jail time.


I wish I had as simple a view of honor as you do.
You can't repossess an education. Government pays, pregnant nurse walks.
Repayment won't be a problem for her.
 
2012-10-25 07:49:52 PM  
Buttsecks: free birth control. All ladies should be on it.
 
2012-10-26 02:03:59 AM  

AnubisMan: hasty ambush: also against military personnel below the pay grad eof E-4 with less than four years service being allowed to marry

They get the immediate perk of getting to move out of the dorms/barracks, however they lose half of their stuff in the divorce a year or two later, kind of balances out.


The best part is when the couple are both in the same unit and one gets a restraining order against the other. Christ my life was so much easier when I was deployed in Iraq, I didn't have to deal with the drama the idiots with permanent profiles spread around.
 
drp
2012-10-26 02:27:53 AM  

crab66: I know of a woman who injured herself to avoid being deployed. Nothing new.


We had a Marine who shot himself in the leg to avoid deploying. We took him anyway (over my objections - I didn't think taking a crazy person along was wise). He didn't get a weapon. He just filled sandbags and did garbage pickup every day so better Marines could spend less time doing those menial tasks.
 
2012-10-26 06:52:36 AM  

drp: We had a Marine who shot himself in the leg to avoid deploying. We took him anyway (over my objections - I didn't think taking a crazy person along was wise). He didn't get a weapon. He just filled sandbags and did garbage pickup every day so better Marines could spend less time doing those menial tasks.


There has to be some sort of rule or regulation against deploying soldiers if they aren't considered mentally fit enough to carry a firearm. I know someone who did deploy without a weapon to Kosovo because he failed his psych exam. Eventually a general found out about it and publicly chewed out our first sergeant, and that weaponless soldier was on his way back home the next day.
 
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