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(Examiner)   UNC drops the word "freshman" in favor of a more gender inclusive term. First year students will now be called "long term financially obligated clients"   (examiner.com) divider line 26
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2012-10-25 07:18:49 AM
4 votes:
For fark's sake... Go take a freakin' language class, lady. There is nothing gender specific about the word Freshman. Just because it contains the letters M A and N in that order doesn't mean it's referring to men.

Maybe next time, before you step up in front of the entire country and make an ass out of yourself, you'll take a few minutes to study up on the etymology of the word.
2012-10-25 06:39:13 AM
3 votes:
cdn.thegloss.com

For the life of me I cannot remember
What made us think that we were wise and
We'd never compromise
For the life of me I cannot believe
We'd ever die for these sins
We were merely first-years
2012-10-25 05:43:30 AM
3 votes:
Another solution, desperately searching for a problem.
2012-10-26 12:04:21 AM
1 votes:
Boys can be Freshmen and the girls can be Freshmeat. I think this is solved and I'm going to get a good night of sleep now.
2012-10-25 12:15:37 PM
1 votes:
I'm so glad I grew up in an era when people were sensible and sturdy.

Not like today. When all the adults quit maturing at age five, suck their thumbs and think SSRIs are Pez dispensed breath mints.

Jesus Christ how do you youngsters cope with this amazingly out of their minds authority figures?
2012-10-25 11:50:49 AM
1 votes:
Must be wonderful live in a place where THIS is your major concern...
2012-10-25 10:35:33 AM
1 votes:
Who on earth would have a problem with.... ugh..

i0.kym-cdn.com
2012-10-25 10:35:05 AM
1 votes:
Ummm...was this something that had to be addressed? Was the 'man' in Freshman really offending people? The person who brought this up, is it the same caliber of people who when someone walks up to the group they are in and says "Hey guys!" they spout off with "Don't you mean 'Hey people'? since we are not all guys in this group." Does this person spell the female gender as Womyn?
2012-10-25 10:01:32 AM
1 votes:

mat catastrophe: So, yea. The word has a definite masculine context that has no place in the world today. Sorry, dudes, the patriarchy train is real and it needs to be taken out.


If women had been obligated to be the head of the family as men had in the past, the word for new students in college would be freshwoman. The only difference is, when men started going to school themselves, they wouldn't have blamed it on the matriarchy or complained about how oppressed they are despite having the highest middle class standard of living any human being has experienced in the history of humanity.

Seriously, if we live in such a patriarchy, then why is it that every time women ask for something like a place at work, or an education, everyone bends over backwards to give it to them? That doesn't really sound like an oppressive patriarchy to me.
2012-10-25 10:00:45 AM
1 votes:
So in return fairness we're going to open up all women-only colleges to men, just like we had to do with all the male-only ones, right?

*pin drops*

/asinine is right
//makes me ashamed to be an Alumni
2012-10-25 09:42:46 AM
1 votes:
How about "plebe?" It works for West Point, the Air Force Academy and Annapolis.
2012-10-25 09:15:22 AM
1 votes:
I think the biggest bullshiat pcism I saw at college was the use of "his/herstory. Yes, because a gender neutral word that just happens to have three letters in it that make up a word denoting gender means the word is sexist.
2012-10-25 09:06:09 AM
1 votes:
Feminist equivalent of freedom fries.


Have fun with that sluts.
2012-10-25 08:35:48 AM
1 votes:
Hey look its, some more butthurt white boys attempting to grasp on to the last vestiges of privelege they have left! Maybe if you all would just sit down, shut up, and listen to those oppressed by the white male patriarchy maybe, just maybe, there wouldn't be so many women and peoples of color farking PISSED off at you! God is really that hard to change your use of a few racist, sexist, imperialist words? Do we you really excercise your privelege in every day conversation? Do the oppressed need to be reminded how oppressed they are as soon as thy step out from their safe space?

Oohhh ooh, I know! Let's all make frustrated snarky jokes on the internet! That will surely keep our sexist privelge going a couple more generations! Screw those uppity women!
2012-10-25 08:13:50 AM
1 votes:
No, it's the annoying hippies that cause people to use stupid terms like 'first year' over freshman.

What's next
David Letterperson
Personhole cover
Come out and fight like a person
Ladies man - persons person
2012-10-25 08:07:00 AM
1 votes:

Cerwin3302: Are they dropping the use of woman as well?


You're an idiot.

Honest Bender: For fark's sake... Go take a freakin' language class, lady. There is nothing gender specific about the word Freshman. Just because it contains the letters M A and N in that order doesn't mean it's referring to men.

Maybe next time, before you step up in front of the entire country and make an ass out of yourself, you'll take a few minutes to study up on the etymology of the word.


You mean how it means "first year student"? Yea, that is pretty gender non-specific. Except, of course, that it dates from the mid 16th century....when women did not go to school at all.

So, yea. The word has a definite masculine context that has no place in the world today. Sorry, dudes, the patriarchy train is real and it needs to be taken out.

Admittedly, petty squabbles over meaningless language is not the best fight to fight in this arena. There's pay disparity and unequal expectations of work/life balance that figure into the mix, but since politicians are unwilling to address the issue in any meaningful sense, we can amuse ourselves with this sort of issue.
2012-10-25 07:20:16 AM
1 votes:
userserve-ak.last.fm 

Optimistic, but still sexist.
2012-10-25 07:07:15 AM
1 votes:

Nick Nostril: "Poor bastards" is shorter yet.


"Cog" for the ultimate in brevity.
2012-10-25 06:49:55 AM
1 votes:
The penis patriarchy has forced their phallic oppression upon us long enough! I will now force my own pointless agenda upon them in a totally hypocritical fashion.
2012-10-25 06:40:50 AM
1 votes:
Fresh PERSON, please.

i789.photobucket.com

/can't believe I'm first
2012-10-25 06:38:03 AM
1 votes:
Calling them 'first years' just reminds me of Harry Potter.
2012-10-25 06:27:24 AM
1 votes:
And scarily, the person who proposed this thinks they are changing the world and making a difference, when right there in Chapel Hill children are being beaten and skipping meals.

/ perhaps the world has better uses for this creative energy and drive, young people?
2012-10-25 06:22:50 AM
1 votes:

Cerwin3302: Are they dropping the use of woman as well?


You never heard the feminist term "womyn(ist)" before?
2012-10-25 06:19:32 AM
1 votes:
Are they dropping the use of woman as well?
2012-10-25 06:15:29 AM
1 votes:

nmemkha: "Future Wage Slaves" has nice ring.


You've just offended a whole bunch of negros.

/sorry, coloreds
//sorry, blacks
///sorry african americans
2012-10-25 05:48:13 AM
1 votes:
"Future Wage Slaves" has nice ring.
 
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