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(ESPN)   Clear your summer of 2016 for there will be a special Copa America held in the United States   (soccernet.espn.go.com) divider line 50
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2012-10-25 09:32:34 AM  
...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...
 
2012-10-25 01:01:09 PM  
Considering the US can barely compete in Concacaf this would be a bloodbath.
 
2012-10-25 01:08:26 PM  

drewogatory: Considering the US can barely compete in Concacaf this would be a bloodbath.


For various values of "either won or finished runner-up to Mexico in the last four tournaments," sure And that would have been six if Brazil hadn't been invited to the 2003 tourney.
 
2012-10-25 01:19:59 PM  
This is awesome, so glad to hear. My guess is they will play all over the states with cities like LA, DC, Seattle, NYC, Miami, KC, etc all getting the nod similar to how they did the Gold Cup last year.
 
2012-10-25 01:29:10 PM  
The what?
 
2012-10-25 01:32:08 PM  

groppet: The what?


The Copa. Short for Copacabana. It is regarded by many as the hottest spot north of Havana.
 
2012-10-25 01:32:46 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...


Hey, no jinxing Columbus.....it's the closest soccer venue I have!

/would love to go see a Sounders game, just for the crowd
//US v Jamaica last month was a blast in Columbus
 
2012-10-25 01:35:56 PM  
USMNT needs to hit Portland, especially if they want a homefield advantage. I would love to catch a Timbers game there.
 
2012-10-25 01:36:15 PM  
www.rounds.com
PROUD.
 
2012-10-25 01:38:08 PM  
I will check out a game if the come to Gillette.
 
2012-10-25 01:40:56 PM  
Can we convert the Superdome? :(
 
2012-10-25 01:48:17 PM  
Oh hell yes. Not that we don't know our way around the Copa America by now- it's a nice break from the likes of Martinique and Panama- but this is just Christmas.
 
2012-10-25 01:55:44 PM  
This will be a great event. 16 teams, probably 4 groups of 4, with 8 teams making it to single elimination. Hopefully it'll be so successful they'll do it every four years after the European Cup.
 
2012-10-25 01:56:35 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...


That or Los Angeles, which will mean a lot of Mexico "home" games.

But there was one in Kansas City a week or two ago that I think got good attendance so maybe they'll come back to KC for this one too?
 
2012-10-25 01:57:58 PM  

groppet: The what?


Exactly.

Opens link. Oh, cross country kickball.

Meh.
 
2012-10-25 02:00:31 PM  

Mrtraveler01: OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...

That or Los Angeles, which will mean a lot of Mexico "home" games.

But there was one in Kansas City a week or two ago that I think got good attendance so maybe they'll come back to KC for this one too?


They've been choosing the smaller stadiums recently for World Cup Qualifying for the Latin country games to keep the home crowd advantage. I think that's the main difference. I'd say just about anywhere you can get 20k American fans to a game, but for a 60k stadium, you'd get about the same number of Americans and a bunch of fans rooting for the other team.
 
2012-10-25 02:03:00 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...


Hilarity_N_Sues: USMNT needs to hit Portland, especially if they want a homefield advantage. I would love to catch a Timbers game there.


I'm pretty sure, even with the gloom, one or the other of you in the PNW can probably get some grass growing in time for 2016. I'm not saying that all the primadonnas aren't primadonnas for refusing to play on 21st century FIFA-approved turfs, but they aren't going to stop being primadonnas any time soon.
 
2012-10-25 02:03:36 PM  
this is exciting news to the tens of people who like soccer.
 
2012-10-25 02:14:58 PM  
Excited about this.

Hoping there are games in Seattle. But if not I would travel to see some of these games. KC would be my most likely destination; soccer and Gates BBQ.

Hilarity_N_Sues: USMNT needs to hit Portland, especially if they want a homefield advantage. I would love to catch a Timbers game there.


I've been to a couple Sounder away matches at Jeld Wen. Great atmosphere but the place is a freaking closet. Seriously. It's not just a Sounder fan talking smack about the Timbers. Jeld Wen is a sub-standard soccer venue. The pitch is not FIFA regulation. I mean the pitch is noticeably too narrow. If Portland wants to host some of these matches they will likely have to expand the pitch at Jeld Wen.

And while they're at it they should increase seating capacity. I've read they have something like 15k+ waiting list for season tickets. More fans are good for the game. Yeah I know it's hip to keep playing in the same stadium and all but the Timbers have moved to the top tier of America soccer shouldn't their venue reflect that?

/off my soapbox
//EBFG
 
2012-10-25 02:23:30 PM  

12349876: They've been choosing the smaller stadiums recently for World Cup Qualifying for the Latin country games to keep the home crowd advantage. I think that's the main difference. I'd say just about anywhere you can get 20k American fans to a game, but for a 60k stadium, you'd get about the same number of Americans and a bunch of fans rooting for the other team.


And since the entire point of this is $$$, I don't see any stadium of under NFL-size making the cut. That isn't to say some of the MLS cities aren't in play, it's just that the games would be in Arrowhead or Lincoln Financial, not Livestrong or PPL.

And, again, being all about the $$$, Seattle might happen. Particularly if they schedule games in the biggest-dollar venues possible (MetLife and the JerryDome), there won't be much room to complain about Seattle. But there will be much, much whining about the turf.
 
2012-10-25 02:40:34 PM  
I hope they have Hooray For Everything do their halftime salute to the greatest hemisphere in the world -- the Western Hemisphere.

Also: this is great, and I hope the farktards in Chicago who somehow managed to not have us on the list for the World Cup bid don't screw this up for us too.
 
2012-10-25 02:56:14 PM  
Another added bonus: A lot less rioting!
 
2012-10-25 03:01:04 PM  
How could they have ever called it the Copa America if it never involved America until now?
 
2012-10-25 03:04:31 PM  

Kuta: This will be a great event. 16 teams, probably 4 groups of 4, with 8 teams making it to single elimination. Hopefully it'll be so successful they'll do it every four years after the European Cup.


How awesome would a pan-American and European cup be if they occurred simultaneously?

No work, only beer & soccer.
 
2012-10-25 03:10:01 PM  
CONKACALF
 
2012-10-25 03:32:21 PM  
Gotta give illegal aliens something harmless to do I guess, or they will do more crimes.
 
2012-10-25 03:46:45 PM  

HawaiiE: Kuta: This will be a great event. 16 teams, probably 4 groups of 4, with 8 teams making it to single elimination. Hopefully it'll be so successful they'll do it every four years after the European Cup.

How awesome would a pan-American and European cup be if they occurred simultaneously?

No work, only beer & soccer.


What if they also involved teams from Asia and Africa? Then it would be a soccer competition from countries all over the planet. Perhaps they could call it the "Global Cup".
 
2012-10-25 04:04:22 PM  
They should start the tournament on the two coasts, then move towards the center of the country as it progresses. With JerryWorld getting the final..assuming they can get grass to grow in there.
 
2012-10-25 04:09:16 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...


This will be more like the World Cup proper; IOW they'll play the games at many of the NFL stadia that are FIFA approved.

MetLife, Gillette, Cowboys, FedEx, CenturyLink, The Rose Bowl, possibly the Dolphins' stadium (actually saw a friendly there on TV and it looked pretty good).
 
2012-10-25 04:11:17 PM  

Mrtraveler01: OtherBrotherDarryl: ...and they'll probably play all their games in Columbus or Florida. Meanwhile, in Seattle, where we sellout every MLS game...

That or Los Angeles, which will mean a lot of Mexico "home" games.

But there was one in Kansas City a week or two ago that I think got good attendance so maybe they'll come back to KC for this one too?


I'm guessing either at Cowboys' Stadium or Reliant as well as the Rose Bowl for Mexico games.

Big question: Will Farmers Field be ready for the 2016 NFL Season? I could see Copa games being played there if it's ready to go by then.
 
2012-10-25 04:12:09 PM  
I have no idea what's going on in this thread....
 
2012-10-25 04:13:42 PM  
I, for one, am excited. The US and Mexico need to be as involved with CONMEBOL as possible in order to compete on a global level. This tournament needs to be permanent.

On the other hand, strange. In order to celebrate 100 years of futbol in South America, let's hold the tournament... in North America!
 
2012-10-25 04:15:51 PM  

DemoKnite: HawaiiE: Kuta: This will be a great event. 16 teams, probably 4 groups of 4, with 8 teams making it to single elimination. Hopefully it'll be so successful they'll do it every four years after the European Cup.

How awesome would a pan-American and European cup be if they occurred simultaneously?

No work, only beer & soccer.

What if they also involved teams from Asia and Africa? Then it would be a soccer competition from countries all over the planet. Perhaps they could call it the "Global Cup".


The US (being the host nation) and Mexico (since they have an agreement with CONMEBOL) are there and officials are looking at inviting 4 other teams to be part of it. Wouldn't be surprised if they asked maybe 2 African and 2 Asian teams. No way will UEFA allow a European side that didn't qualify for EURO 2016 to be part of it.
 
2012-10-25 04:18:47 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I, for one, am excited. The US and Mexico need to be as involved with CONMEBOL as possible in order to compete on a global level. This tournament needs to be permanent.

On the other hand, strange. In order to celebrate 100 years of futbol in South America, let's hold the tournament... in North America!


What I'm guessing is that since Brazil's hosting the Olympics in 2016 they're out. Argentina might not be ready to host a tournament so close to the Olympics. Some of the other countries wouldn't have the facilities to house such an event.

Also: LOTS and LOTS of US dollars involved with attendances probably close to the level of World Cup USA '94.
 
2012-10-25 04:24:25 PM  

Lawnchair: 12349876: They've been choosing the smaller stadiums recently for World Cup Qualifying for the Latin country games to keep the home crowd advantage. I think that's the main difference. I'd say just about anywhere you can get 20k American fans to a game, but for a 60k stadium, you'd get about the same number of Americans and a bunch of fans rooting for the other team.

And since the entire point of this is $$$, I don't see any stadium of under NFL-size making the cut. That isn't to say some of the MLS cities aren't in play, it's just that the games would be in Arrowhead or Lincoln Financial, not Livestrong or PPL.

And, again, being all about the $$$, Seattle might happen. Particularly if they schedule games in the biggest-dollar venues possible (MetLife and the JerryDome), there won't be much room to complain about Seattle. But there will be much, much whining about the turf.


They'll choose the big stadiums for this tournament. I was talking more about the games where there's supposed to be a massive home field advantage like the world cup qualifiers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamaica be the only NFL stadium game in this next round of qualifying.
 
2012-10-25 04:27:20 PM  

Rwa2play: Big question: Will Farmers Field be ready for the 2016 NFL Season? I could see Copa games being played there if it's ready to go by then.


Unlikely. I think the closest analogue would be Lucas Oil Stadium in Indy, and that took 3 years to build, and didn't have to worry about seismic considerations. Farmers Field isn't getting built until there is a team committed to LA, and that's still a year or two off, at least. I'm sure they would host games for this tournament at the Rose Bowl, which pretty has the most soccer history of any stadium in America ('84 Gold Medal final, 94 WC final, 99 Women's WC final, etc.)

There's still a long ways to go before this is finalized though, CONMEBOL kinda jumped the gun and announced this before US Soccer, FIFA, or anyone else officially signed off on it.
 
2012-10-25 04:29:46 PM  

Rwa2play: The US (being the host nation) and Mexico (since they have an agreement with CONMEBOL) are there and officials are looking at inviting 4 other teams to be part of it. Wouldn't be surprised if they asked maybe 2 African and 2 Asian teams. No way will UEFA allow a European side that didn't qualify for EURO 2016 to be part of it.


The other 4 teams will be the 4 top finishers (other than the US and Mexico) in the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup.
 
2012-10-25 04:32:47 PM  

Lawnchair: 12349876: They've been choosing the smaller stadiums recently for World Cup Qualifying for the Latin country games to keep the home crowd advantage. I think that's the main difference. I'd say just about anywhere you can get 20k American fans to a game, but for a 60k stadium, you'd get about the same number of Americans and a bunch of fans rooting for the other team.

And since the entire point of this is $$$, I don't see any stadium of under NFL-size making the cut. That isn't to say some of the MLS cities aren't in play, it's just that the games would be in Arrowhead or Lincoln Financial, not Livestrong or PPL.

And, again, being all about the $$$, Seattle might happen. Particularly if they schedule games in the biggest-dollar venues possible (MetLife and the JerryDome), there won't be much room to complain about Seattle. But there will be much, much whining about the turf.


If you're talking about the FieldTurf don't worry. If you're talking about the quality of the laid-down grass then...yeah that could be a problem.
 
2012-10-25 04:46:04 PM  

Raging Whore Moans: How could they have ever called it the Copa America if it never involved America until now?


1993, 1995, and 2007 would like a word. 1993 we used it as experience leading to the '94 WC. '95 we destroyed Argentina and knocked out Mexico on penalties to make the semis. 2007 we decided to send a team full of reserves and youth players and as a result, got shellacked. CONMEBOL wasn't too happy we pulled that stunt.
 
2012-10-25 04:47:44 PM  

Woolwine: Raging Whore Moans: How could they have ever called it the Copa America if it never involved America until now?

1993, 1995, and 2007 would like a word. 1993 we used it as experience leading to the '94 WC. '95 we destroyed Argentina and knocked out Mexico on penalties to make the semis. 2007 we decided to send a team full of reserves and youth players and as a result, got shellacked. CONMEBOL wasn't too happy we pulled that stunt.


IIRC it didn't help that the Gold Cup Final was within 10 days to 2 weeks of the start of that year's Copa.
 
2012-10-25 04:50:46 PM  

Hilarity_N_Sues: USMNT needs to hit Portland, especially if they want a homefield advantage. I would love to catch a Timbers game there.


playing any away game in Mexico, Central or South America is a much more intimidating atmosphere than anything in the USA could ever hope to be.
 
2012-10-25 04:53:12 PM  

yeah_so: Hilarity_N_Sues: USMNT needs to hit Portland, especially if they want a homefield advantage. I would love to catch a Timbers game there.

playing any away game in Mexico, Central or South America is a much more intimidating atmosphere than anything in the USA could ever hope to be.


Pretty much. If they're not throwing urine bags at you as you enter/leave the pitch, they're not doing it right.
 
2012-10-25 04:54:38 PM  

Woolwine: Raging Whore Moans: How could they have ever called it the Copa America if it never involved America until now?

1993, 1995, and 2007 would like a word. 1993 we used it as experience leading to the '94 WC. '95 we destroyed Argentina and knocked out Mexico on penalties to make the semis. 2007 we decided to send a team full of reserves and youth players and as a result, got shellacked. CONMEBOL wasn't too happy we pulled that stunt.


My bad. I was only trying to make a satirical redneck joke, but now it's clear that the joke is partially on me.

I'm a casual soccer fan and thought Copa America was only for the South American confederation, like CONCACAF's Gold Cup or the Asian Cup or the Euro Cup. And now I'm not even sure if the last two are of the same caliber
 
2012-10-25 04:55:28 PM  
United States
Argentina
Uruguay
Colombia

Brazil
Chile
Mexico
Ecuador

Peru
Paraguay
Venezuela
Panama

Jamaica
Costa Rica
Honduras
Bolivia

What the pots would look like now according to world Rankings (with USA in Pot A as host and Haiti and Canada replaced by Costa Rica and Honduras, because seriously)
 
2012-10-25 04:56:56 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: United States
Argentina
Uruguay
Colombia

Brazil
Chile
Mexico
Ecuador

Peru
Paraguay
Venezuela
Panama

Jamaica
Costa Rica
Honduras
Bolivia

What the pots would look like now according to world Rankings (with USA in Pot A as host and Haiti and Canada replaced by Costa Rica and Honduras, because seriously)


I would think US, Mexico, Argentina and Brazil in Pot A...just because.
 
2012-10-25 06:02:25 PM  
I just recently figured out what the Hell A "Justin Beiber" is and now this?

Is 'Copa America' like the Latino boat race?
 
2012-10-25 06:26:58 PM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: I, for one, am excited. The US and Mexico need to be as involved with CONMEBOL as possible in order to compete on a global level. This tournament needs to be permanent.

On the other hand, strange. In order to celebrate 100 years of futbol in South America, let's hold the tournament... in North America!


Agree 100%. We could actually learn something by playing the big boys occasionally, even if (when) they stomp us.
 
2012-10-25 10:33:08 PM  
Mexico, Argentina and Brazil are going to play in NFL stadiums.

Bad teams that no one cares about like Bolivia, Trinidad and the US will play in MLS stadiums or high school football stadiums. Same thing, but most MLS stadiums sell beer.
 
2012-10-26 12:10:57 AM  
Great news! Hope there will be some matches in Florida....a good possibility...since Florida airports provide a lot of direct flights to South America

There is a large Brazilian community in Orlando, and Disney World is the #1 destination for Brazilian tourists...so games in Orlando or Tampa should happen
 
2012-10-26 06:15:45 PM  
Uruguay won the 2011 Copa America, which was played in Argentina.

"Well, you go Uruguay and I'll go mine!"
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
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