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(BBC)   German Chancellor Angela Merkel dedicates memorial to Roma (Gypsy) victims of the Holocaust. Thankful Roma promptly turn it into a caravan campground   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 62
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2012-10-25 09:51:40 AM
Seems like an appropriate use to me.
 
2012-10-25 09:54:53 AM
They will take it down and sell it for scrap
 
2012-10-25 09:57:26 AM
Did they have a bunch of dags??
 
2012-10-25 09:58:33 AM
The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.


They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?
 
2012-10-25 10:00:18 AM
A tan 1964 Chevrolet Bel-Air sedan with Illinois license plates pull into a supermarket parking lot. 10 gypsys exit out of it...all go into the supermarket. While one distracts the manager, the rest of them steal the store blind.

Then they exit and drive away.
 
2012-10-25 10:00:29 AM

strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??


One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.
 
2012-10-25 10:00:48 AM
Was there anything set up for the crusty jugglers?
 
2012-10-25 10:02:54 AM
Right. And she's terrible partial to the periwinkle blue, boys. Have I made myself clear, lads?
 
2012-10-25 10:03:31 AM

dv-ous: The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.

They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


You aren't familiar with the Roma are you?
 
2012-10-25 10:04:33 AM

dv-ous: strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??

One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.


When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.
 
2012-10-25 10:06:01 AM

dv-ous: They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


While the memorial may be dedicated to the Roma it's a tragedy the entire world should mourn. It would be silly to ghettoize the mourning process & at the same time eliminate potential designs.

/It's that kind of thinking that got us (as a world) into that mess in the first place.
//Do you know who else sought out Roma, artists, & poets?
 
2012-10-25 10:06:45 AM

dv-ous: The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.

They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


Well they did find one and invited them to their office to write the piece.

The problem was the pens kept disappearing, more and more people kept showing up as inspiration and emotional support and eventually the desk was sold for malt liquor.
 
2012-10-25 10:07:50 AM
roma kids swarmed and robbed my parents in paris.

when i lived near brussels, they came thru our neighborhood and busted out car windows and stole anything that wasn't properly secured and some things that were. the police caught them leaving the neighborhood. they charged them and kept our stuff as 'evidence'. A neighbor who was a member of the Belgian parliament said they were usually charged and then released and they would move on somewhere else.
 
2012-10-25 10:08:24 AM
Found the car abandoned...but the Gypsies are long gone...and so is the loot.
media.motortopia.com
 
2012-10-25 10:12:54 AM
If the Nazis had just stuck to gassing the Roma, no one would have cared.

/not serious
//at least I hope I'm not
 
2012-10-25 10:13:49 AM
Holy crap I guess we can't make fun of gays or say the words that's gay or retard and midget any more even though they are perfectly accurate terms but we can still use the word Gypsy to mock people. Didn't know that was still the case. Somebody should keep a list of the acceptable groups we can still harass so I can keep up. I mean just last week I telling this guy not to Jew me and he got all offended. It's only a matter of time before they take away being gypped. Just let me know in advance because it's embarrassing when you aren't aware it's no longer acceptable.
 
2012-10-25 10:14:09 AM

dv-ous: The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.

They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


Gogol Bordello was busy.
 
2012-10-25 10:14:17 AM

dv-ous: strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??

One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.


Ey's all just a buncha fargin' pikeys to me!
 
2012-10-25 10:18:14 AM

dv-ous: The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.

They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


What's more Roma than a man named Karavan ?
 
2012-10-25 10:22:42 AM

brandent: Holy crap I guess we can't make fun of gays or say the words that's gay or retard and midget any more even though they are perfectly accurate terms but we can still use the word Gypsy to mock people.


I think the headline would be confusing without the (Gypsy) part because, you know, Roma is also the Italian spelling of Rome, and in Europe it's usually the city that comes in people's mind when they read Roma.
 
2012-10-25 10:24:41 AM
Diversity just seems to be a problem wherever it is tried.

Well, I guess we'll keep trying. It's not like pounding square pegs into round holes or anything.

"We must be right, therefore if it's not working, we're just not trying hard enough!"
 
2012-10-25 10:25:11 AM
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2012-10-25 10:26:59 AM
Considering everything I know about them is from Top Gear, Daily Mail squatter stories, the Sherlock Holmes movie, and My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, why does the world tolerate these vermin?

Or at least alter the laws and have instant trials and confiscate their possessions as penalty for all the thievery?
 
2012-10-25 10:28:05 AM

brandent: Holy crap I guess we can't make fun of gays or say the words that's gay or retard and midget any more even though they are perfectly accurate terms but we can still use the word Gypsy to mock people. Didn't know that was still the case. Somebody should keep a list of the acceptable groups we can still harass so I can keep up. I mean just last week I telling this guy not to Jew me and he got all offended. It's only a matter of time before they take away being gypped. Just let me know in advance because it's embarrassing when you aren't aware it's no longer acceptable.


If it's just good old fashioned family racism does that still count as bad? When my non-white buddies make honkey jokes I know its no more serious than when I make n****r jokes. Doesn't the tone used when the joke or slur is made indicate intelligence level? If you're not smart enough to keep up then at least try to fool everybody by keeping quiet.
 
2012-10-25 10:28:54 AM
sodomizer : [Account created: 2012-09-26 09:32:56] Diversity just seems to be a problem wherever it is tried.

Well, I guess we'll keep trying. It's not like pounding square pegs into round holes or anything.

"We must be right, therefore if it's not working, we're just not trying hard enough!"


Yeah.

I mean, if Jews keep moving into your country, of course you're eventually going to try to kill them all. It's like an itch - you HAVE to scratch it at some point.

It's really the fault of the Jews, Roma, etc for wanting to live where they were farking born, right?
 
2012-10-25 10:30:13 AM

brandent: Holy crap I guess we can't make fun of gays or say the words that's gay or retard and midget any more even though they are perfectly accurate terms but we can still use the word Gypsy to mock people. Didn't know that was still the case. Somebody should keep a list of the acceptable groups we can still harass so I can keep up. I mean just last week I telling this guy not to Jew me and he got all offended. It's only a matter of time before they take away being gypped. Just let me know in advance because it's embarrassing when you aren't aware it's no longer acceptable.


You could just not be an asshole. Then you'd be fine.
 
2012-10-25 10:30:35 AM

dv-ous: strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??

One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.


It cracks me up that descendandt of Irish travelers in the US go by "Romanical" in the US (the term for the Roma in Ireland/England).
 
2012-10-25 10:31:13 AM
My partially Gypsy, Czechoslovakian family left and came to the US just as WWII was about to move into the area. The racism was already drastic, however; the war just gave them an added push: Link
 
2012-10-25 10:31:18 AM
Just pandering for the tramps and thieves vote.
 
2012-10-25 10:34:27 AM
...but what about the tramps & thieves?
 
2012-10-25 10:38:29 AM

CapeFearCadaver: The racism was already drastic, however; the war just gave them an added push: Link


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2012-10-25 10:44:54 AM

fickenchucker: Considering everything I know about them is from Top Gear, Daily Mail squatter stories, the Sherlock Holmes movie, and My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, why does the world tolerate these vermin?


There is also the american version.

Both of which make it hard for me to get upset and insults to their "culture".
 
2012-10-25 10:45:37 AM
www.passthecat.racknine.net
 
2012-10-25 10:46:13 AM
The caravan thunders onward
 
2012-10-25 10:48:29 AM

The First Four Katy Perry Albums: dv-ous: strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??

One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.

When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.

Are you saying that it's not desperately important to know the ethnicity of the person committing a crime!? You sound like a liberal. I bet you don't even leave racist screeds on crime stories in online newspapers.
 
2012-10-25 10:55:53 AM
If you ever get "infested" by gypsies, they're the biggest pain in the ass ever.
 
2012-10-25 11:07:39 AM
A Roma aroma?
 
2012-10-25 11:08:52 AM

dv-ous: The memorial has been designed by the Israeli artist Dani Karavan. A fresh flower will be laid on the plinth at the centre of the memorial every day.


Between 220,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti were killed during World War II
Auschwitz by Italian poet Santino Spinelli is engraved around the pool's rim.

They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


They found three. The fourth time they had to buy new tools, materials, and replace random personal belongings, they went with someone a bit less criminal.
 
2012-10-25 11:17:01 AM

The First Four Katy Perry Albums: dv-ous: strangeguitar: Did they have a bunch of dags??

One should not confuse Irish "Travelers" with Roma "Gypsies." Although their outward attitudes and "fark you" lifestyles are similar, they are actually different ethnic groups with very, very different histories.

When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.


Well if its an Irish traveler, they dont so much pick pocket as lay you out with a blunt object and leave you naked in a ditch.
 
2012-10-25 11:27:37 AM

dv-ous: They couldn't find a Roma artist or poet?


They found a series of them, but they all ended up stealing the grant, setting camp on the monument's ground and demanding that the state payed them to get the fark out. There is a reason WW2 ended nearly 70 years ago and they only managed to set this monument now.

And even then, it will be stolen in a matter of days.
 
2012-10-25 11:36:41 AM
If you ever want to hear stories that will wreck your brain, ask an Eastern European of their opinion of gypsies.

/it's almost like some sort of acceptable racism.
 
2012-10-25 11:36:46 AM

fickenchucker: Considering everything I know about them is from Top Gear, Daily Mail squatter stories, the Sherlock Holmes movie, and My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, why does the world tolerate these vermin?

Or at least alter the laws and have instant trials and confiscate their possessions as penalty for all the thievery?


Well we could round them up and put them in camps and then...oh...nevermind.
 
2012-10-25 11:39:35 AM
The First Four Katy Perry Albums: When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.
Subtle_Canary: Well if its an Irish traveler, they dont so much pick pocket as lay you out with a blunt object and leave you naked in a ditch.

Don't forget the bit before that where they come up to you, call you "mate" and start a perfectly normal conversation then for no reason abruptly start hurling abuse at you and while you're still trying to adjust to the situation they call their friends/family/uncle brothers/accomplices to gang up on you.

Had a job pizza delivery job when younger, delivered to pikey/traveller/whatever camp in the middle of the night. Once.
 
2012-10-25 11:40:42 AM
One instance where Hitler had the right idea.
 
2012-10-25 11:41:58 AM

ethics-gradient: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.
Subtle_Canary: Well if its an Irish traveler, they dont so much pick pocket as lay you out with a blunt object and leave you naked in a ditch.

Don't forget the bit before that where they come up to you, call you "mate" and start a perfectly normal conversation then for no reason abruptly start hurling abuse at you and while you're still trying to adjust to the situation they call their friends/family/uncle brothers/accomplices to gang up on you.

Had a job pizza delivery job when younger, delivered to pikey/traveller/whatever camp in the middle of the night. Once.


I waiting for them to come spray my driveway with used motor oil.
 
2012-10-25 11:58:13 AM
Yeah, let's celebrate all the great things Roma have done.
 
2012-10-25 12:00:23 PM
ethics-gradient: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: When I'm being pick-pocketed I care deeply about the rich tapestry of the thief's cultural heritage.
Subtle_Canary: Well if its an Irish traveler, they dont so much pick pocket as lay you out with a blunt object and leave you naked in a ditch.

Don't forget the bit before that where they come up to you, call you "mate" and start a perfectly normal conversation then for no reason abruptly start hurling abuse at you and while you're still trying to adjust to the situation they call their friends/family/uncle brothers/accomplices to gang up on you.

Had a job pizza delivery job when younger, delivered to pikey/traveller/whatever camp in the middle of the night. Once.

Girion47 I waiting for them to come spray my driveway with used motor oil.

Oh yes, nice the way they'll save you the journey come to you or your aged parent's house to threaten and extort money in your own place of residence.
 
2012-10-25 12:06:14 PM

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I have the weirdest boner right now...
 
2012-10-25 12:12:46 PM

Salacious Salad: fickenchucker: Considering everything I know about them is from Top Gear, Daily Mail squatter stories, the Sherlock Holmes movie, and My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, why does the world tolerate these vermin?

Or at least alter the laws and have instant trials and confiscate their possessions as penalty for all the thievery?

Well we could round them up and put them in camps and then...oh...nevermind.




Well, Hitler might have retained power if he stopped with them and his initial Sudetenland push.

/Obviously he was a vile person up to that point. Many dictators who retain power over many decades were/are.
 
2012-10-25 12:33:53 PM

MadSkillz: If you ever want to hear stories that will wreck your brain, ask an Eastern European of their opinion of gypsies.

/it's almost like some sort of acceptable racism.


You don't have to go that far East. It's totally acceptable to hate Gypsies in Spain.

I did.
 
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